Medical bills that they cannot pay. Woodruff all that and more on tonights pbs newshour. Major funding for the pbs newshour has been provided by life isnt a straight line, and sometimes you can find yourself heading in a new direction. Fidelity is here to help you work through the unexpected, with Financial Planning and advice for today, and tomorrow. Carnegie corporation of new york. Supporting innovations in education, democratic engagement, and the advancement of International Peace and security. At carnegie. Org. And with the ongoing support of these institutions and individuals. This program was made possible by the corporation for public broadcasting. And by contributions to your pbs station from viewers like you. Thank you. Woodruff big new numbers keep coming in the covid19 pandemic. The coronavirus has now killed more than 75,000 people in the United States and infected well over 1. 2 Million People, including someone whose work in the white house has brought him near president trump. And, millions more jobs have been destroyed. William brangham begins our coverage. Brangham in a tsunami of closings, more than 33 million americans have now lost their jobs to the pandemic. That includes 3. 2 million just in the last week. Some would have been working in places like ocean city, maryland, usually packed with visitors and beachgoers, but now a virtual ghost town. Anna Dolle Bushnell owns a candy shop on the boardwalk. We went from 35 employees down to five. We had to lay off pretty much everybody. Anybody that was in manufacturing, anybody that was waiting on customers, theyre all gone just because our doors are all shuttered. Brangham Small Businesses arent the only casualty. Major retailers Neiman Marcus and j. Crew have now filed for chapter 11 bankruptcy protection. And one of the countrys Oldest Department stores, lord and taylor, announced it will liquidate its stores when they reopen. All that lost business is also robbing states of tax revenue. California today projected a budget shortfall of more than 54 billion this year, after running a 21 billion surplus a year ago. Governor gavin newsom. We really need the federal government to do more and to help us through this moment. Well do everything we are responsible for doing and more. We punch above our weight in this state and well come back stronger, more vibrant, more resilient than ever. Brangham but exactly when states expect to reopen for business differs from regi to region. So far, about half of all states have begun easing restrictions. Much of the west coast and northeast main shuttered, while many states in the southeast and midwest have partially reopened. In montana, students at a handful of small rural schools were back in the classroom today. Theyre among the first in the country to open back up. The Associated Press reported the Trump Administration shelved a 17page document from the centers for Disease Control and prevention that offered guidelines to states, cities and businesses for how to safely re open. It was seen as a blueprint for making sitespecific decisions for everything from schools and churches, to restaurants and daycare centers. The recommendations were to have been published last friday, but the a. P. Reported c. D. C. Scientists were told it would never see the light of day. White house officials said today the c. D. C. s guidance had not yet been approved by c. D. C. Leadership. Separately, the white house confirmed today that one of the president s personal valets has tested positive for the coronavirus. Officials said both the president and Vice President have now been tested again, and are still negative for the rus. President trump was asked about it during an afternoon event. We test once week. Now were going too testing once a day. Ive had very little contact, personal contact with this gentleman. I know who he is, good person. But ivead very little contact. Mike has had very little contact with him. Brangham overseas today, the bank of england warned that the british economy faces its sharpest economic downturn since 1706, back when europe was engulfed in the war of the spanish succession. Russia reported yet another record daily spike in infections, with more than 11,000 new cases. But in china, the original epicenter of the outbreak, all regions have now been downgraded to low risk, with no new deaths being reported in more than three weeks. For the pbs newshour, im william brangham. Woodruff now, to another story making headlines a stunning reversal. Twoandahalf years after Michael Flynn pleaded guilty to lying to the f. B. I. About contacts he had with the russian ambassador, today the department of justice asked a federal judge to drop the case against president trumps former National Security adviser. In the court filing, u. S. Attorney timothy shea wrote the government cannot explain, much less prove to a jury beyond a reasonable doubt, how false statements are material to an investigation that. Seems to have been undertaken only to elicit those very false statements and thereby criminalize mr. Flynn. President trump reacted to the news this afternoon. I didnt know that was happening at this moment. I felt it was going to happen just by watching and seeing like everybody else does. He was an innocent man. He is a great gentleman. He was targeted by the Obama Administration and he was targeted in order to try and take down a president. And what theyve done is a disgrace and i hope a big price is going to be paid. Woodruff to help break down the Justice Department decision, im joined by neil katyal. He served as acting solicitor general in the Obama Administration. And brett tolman. Hes a former federal prosecutor and also worked as chief counsel for republicans on the Senate Judiciary committee. Gentlemen, thank you both for being here. Brett tolman, to you, first. How could a case, after two and a half years, when general flynn pled guilty, suddenly disintegrate . Well, you know, the disintegration comes as a result of, i think, an honest assessment of the facts, and what i mean by that is you have to understand what the facts are at the time when the decisions were made. Here, theres no question, its not just about misconduct of the f. B. I. Theres that. Its concerning. There are statements, there are notes, weve all seen them. Were concerned when an f. B. I. Agent asks the question whats our goal, is it to get somebody to do something criminal as opposed who what if they lie in our investigation, what will happen, instead he said are we going to get them to lie. The problem is and you asked the key question, how does a prosecution disindependent grate . Is disintegrates because you exercise proper prosecutorial discretion. Woodruff well, neil katyal, we know what brett tolman is referring to is information f. B. I. Agents it may have been asking questions, planning this investigation in case that was improper but, at its core, why is it this case should stand up . You read the filing by the Justice Department, and theyre saying this is something they cant stand by anymore. Yeah, i dont think the Justice Departments filing today stands up. I think its a devastating decision, judy, that cuts the rule of law. This is a president who has been trying to interfere with this prosecution since the start. He told jim comey hed let him go, stuff like that. That was the whole reason to have a special counsel investigation to ensure there would be an independent investigation, and nothing, i think, is more corrosive than thidea that the Justice Department is now weapon idessed to help trumps friend and hurt his enemies. Here the evidence is overwhelming. First of all, flynn admitted himself twice in open court that he did it in 2017 and 2018, and this isnt like some obama prosecution, this is the f. B. I. And Justice Department, and that prosecution was signed off by multiple checks. First you have line attorneys, career prosecutors doing so, then you have trumps own guy, the Deputy Attorney general Rod Rosenstein signing off on it, and then you had a federal judge, judge sullivan, a very respected judge also signing off on this. By contrast, todays decision, not a single line prosecutor signed that document. Indeed, the line prosecutor the prosecutor van grak withdraws. Something is rotten in denmark. This is devastating and coronavirus to the rule of law. Woodruff and what about that, mr. Tolman . Because what we have is a process that involved a number of people over a period of months has now been done away with by one prosecutor under acting under, presumably, the direction of the attorney general, and we have accusation that the Justice Department has now been completely politicized. Well, im glad neil brought up the politicization of the Justice Department. Theres no question jim comey was at the heart of that political response. If you look at what he did, he sent in investigators with an agenda after the department of justice had already made a determination that there was not a logan act violation at issue and there was not a pharr act issue to be investigated. So they sent them in with the strict purpose of being able to find something that they could bring. Now, im going to tell you, in neils world, then, no innocent person ever pleads guilty, and no misconduct ever occur and no prosecutor makes a mistake. Here, a big mistake was made, and you can argue as much as you want that mr. Flynn appeared in court. There are other reasons why somebody would plead guilty, and ive seen it, having been in the criminal Justice System 20 years. This was a right decision, not a political decision, and the people who reviewed this did it at issue absent any political mandate. Woodruff do you want to respond to that, neil katyal . Yeah, of course i believe that there are sometimes people who plead guilty when they shouldnt, but when you have Something Like someone like this with massive Financial Resources who served his country as a general and has been accused of lying to the f. B. I. And he agrees to plea twice . Of course not. You fight for your honor in that circumstance. You dont plead guilty when youre someone like that with all the resources and the like. If they were so sure they couldnt make the case which sounds thoroughly by czar since statements would be admissible in court including flynns plea let them prove it out in court and see what happens, but the idea you truncate that at the getgo, and for this one prisoner, there are 172,000 federal prisoners serving their sentences right now, but you have this one person who magically the Justice Department happens to single out who happens to be trumps pal and ally, theres something seriously and deeply, deeply wrong that has happened here. Woodruff and brett breast, quickly, going back yeah. Sorry. Woodruff go ahead. This same analysis was entirely absent when this same Justice Department determined not to go forward on the prosecution of andrew mccabe, admittedly having found to have lied by the office of inspector general. It should give us great comfo that a decision is made in the mccabe case to not bring a case and a decision is made now to reverse a wrong that was going forward. Its political to say anything otherwise. Woodruff weve only got a few seconds left. I want to ask both of you what you expect judge Emmett Sullivan to do, neil katyal. I think the judge to do last year when a different Justice Department set of attorneys had t withdraw because of lies the Trump Administration had made inquired into it and i expect judge sullivan will inquire into why is this attorney withdrawing and he under rule 48 has to approve the dismissal of this prosescution and i think he already held that this evidence is material and the like and, so, i think there should be a searching inquiry as to what happened here today. Woodruff and brett tolman, i mean, the judge the final decision is in the hands of the judge, correct . Yes, it is. This same judge should dismiss this case for simply the brady violations that have occurred in the case. He should know. Hes the one who warns the government to make sure they turn everything over, having ruled on the prosecution of ted stevens case. So i think the decision is easy for him at this point. Woodruff brett tolman, neil katyal, we thank you both. Thank you. Woodruff in the days other news, the u. S. Supreme court overturned the convictions of two former new jersey officials in the socalled bridgegate scandal. They helped engineer a huge traffic jam to punish a democratic mayor for opposing thenrepublican governor chris christie. The scandal helped derail christies 2016 president ial bid. The high courts unanimous decision said the scheme did not amount to a federal crime. China issued a strong rebuke today to u. S. Secretary of state mike pompeo for linking the coronavirus to a lab in the city of wuhan. Pompeo has said there is enormous evidence to back the claim, but hes also acknowledged there is no certainty. In beijing, the Foreign Ministry denounced his rhetoric. translated the reason why he made such self contradictory comments is because he has been making up lies and covering up a lie by fabricating more lies. Is very regrettable to see some people in the United States shifting blames around and shirking their responsibilities. Woodruff the spokeswoman said china will work with the World Health Organization to investigate the origin of the pandemic. In southern india, an Industrial Gas leak killed at least 11 people today and left 1,000 gasping for air. The styrene gas left dozens unconscious in the strt. It happened as workers readied an l. G. Chemical plant to re open after a covid19 lockdown. In 1984, a gas leak at a Union Carbide planin bhopal, india, killed at least 4,000 people. Iraq finally has a new government, ending months of political deadlock. Lawmakers endorsed former spy chief Mustafa Alkadhimi as Prime Minister, along with most of his cabinet, early today in baghdad. translated the iraqi politicians should listen to the voice of our people and youth across the country and to their legitimate demands. This government has come in response to social, economic, and political crises to be a government of solution not a government of crises. Woodruff the previous government crumbled after months of protests over a crumbling economy and political corruption. Back in this country, the u. S. Senate upheld president trumps veto of a ban on military action against iran. 49 senators voted to override the veto, but it takes a two thirds majority. The war powers resolution passed after a u. S. Air strike killed a p iranian general in january. Wildfires burning in the Florida Panhandle have forced some 1,600 people to leave their homes. The largest fire started monday, and has grown 10 times larger, fueled by high wind and low humidity. Bytoday, it had had burned 2,000 acres and shut down interstate 10. Automakers in the u. S. Will not have to recall another 56 million air bag inflators made by takata. They already recalled 50 million inflators after some sprayed metal shards and killed at least 25 people worldwide. Today, the national Highway Traffic Safety Administration said Industry Research suggests that takatas newer inflators are safe. And, on wall street, investors focused on hopes that job losses may have peaked. The Dow Jones Industrial average gained 211 pointto close near 23,876. The nasdaq rose 125 points, and, the s p 500 added 32. Still to come on the newshour dozens of states relax restrictions despite a dire shortage of testing for covid19 the dire consequences of millions losing their employer based health care in the midst of a pandemic. A report from india where an ongoing lockdown is exacerbating societal divides. And much more. Woodruff more than half the states in the u. S. Have started to partially reopen their economies or plan to do soon. But even as pressure grows to reopen, there are questions about how to do that with social distancing and a shortage of tests for some who want one. Theres an avege of about 250,000 tests being taken each day here. Doctor ashish jha is focused on those very questions as the director of the Harvard Global health institute. Were going to talk about that and the c. D. C. s role in responding to the pandemic. Dr. Jha, thank you for joining us again on the newshour. So what should ideally happen before a state starts to reopen . Yes, so thank you for having me on. You know, the president s own guidelines, which are ones that w all largely agree with, suggest that states have to dramatically reduce the number of cases and then have adequate testing, tracing and isolation infrastructure. Both of those are necessary. Some states have reduced their number of cases, but very few states have the kind of testing necessary to really safely reopen. Reporter and, so, when we learn, as we did today, that the white house has rejected a proposal a very detailed proposal put together by the centers for Disease Control, the c. D. C. , and said, essentially, its up to the states, what does that say about having the right period oright the right prote right safety precautions in place before people are allowed to move around. This is an and decase of federal leadership. The longstanding deal between state and federal government is states run health and the federal government provide technical expertise, finances, all of the help the state needs. The c. D. C. Was helping states figure out how do we open up safely. The fact that was quashed by the white house, and the white house is saying to all the states, hey, youre on your own, figure it out, it goes against our entire history of federalism and how the federal government has worked with states. Woodruff but what about the argument made by the white house is these are the decisions that should be made by the states because parts of the country have had very few cases relative to other parts to have the country, not every state is like new york. States should be able to decide this on their own . I completely agree with that argument. That is correct, wyoming and montana are not like new york, and when i look at the at that m those two states, i think theyre pretty safe to open up, but the bottom line is that the federal government still needs to be involved in helping those states, you know, open up safely, have enough testing. We cant leave it up to the states by themselves, they need the help from the federal government. Reporter dr. Jha, the program you run, the institute on Global Health at harvard, today issued new guidelines, new recommendations on the number of tests that should be done. Youre saying now more than 900,000 tests a day as a country. This is a big jump from what your opinion recommending earlier. Why . Yeah, so our recommendations are based on the data as they are today. And when we made our initial calculations almost a month ago, the outbreak was not only, you know, smaller, the expectations were that social distancing was going to remain in place for the next six weeks, quite aggressively, and we were going to see a big drop in the number of cases. That has not happened. Social distancing has not remained in place, states are opening up, and the projections are were going to have many more cases and many more deaths. You need more tests. We needed to update for the realy that exists today, not a month ago. Woodruff who is listening to your recommendation . We hope that policymakers in washington are. I know states are concerned about. This we haveeen speaking to governors and health departments. Theyre looking at these kinds of data and very worried about whether they can hit the capacity they need, whether they can achieve the number of tests, and the bottom line is they cant without federal help. This is not a situation where we want 50 states competing with each other to get testing in place. This is a situation where we need coordination from the white house, from the executive branch. Woodruff so i want to come back to what we were discussing at the beginning of the interview, what should the federal government be doing at this point in order to see that states, whether they are a state with relatively few cases or a lot, that those states can conduct the number of tests that they need to conduct . Yeah, so, you know, every state has a different set of road blocks that theyre encountering, and what we should have done two months ago and can stl do now is that the federal government can lookt at the the entire chain of activity needed for tests to swabs, to media, to reagents, to machines, and make sure that it uses the tools that it has if only to ramp up all the supplies so states can do what they can do. You know, these are national and Global Supply chains. We dont want every state cutting trade deals with countries to get supplies for testing. That makes no sense whatsoever. This is why we have a federal government. The feds can actually do this, if they decide to make it a priority. Woodruff and youre talking about those states that are already moving ahead to open up . All the States Woodruff i mean, all states go ahead. No, sorry. Thats right, so all the states need it. The ones that are opening up now im particularly worried about. There are a couple again. I mentioned montana, wyoming, alaska, there are a couple of these states without a big population, not many cases, that i think can open up safely. They adhere to the white house guidelines. But there are a lot of states like georgia which have a totally inadequate number of tests and the idea georgia is going to figure this out on their own, i hope they do, but im deeply worried they wont be able to get the testing they need and that means a lot of georgians will suffer. Woodruff doctor ashish jha of the center for Global Health. Thank you very much. Thank you for having me on. Woodruff the tidal wave of pandemicrelated unemployment will reverberate in many different ways throughout the country for months, quite possibly years, to come. One way as millions lose their jobs, they also lose their health care coverage. And for so many, there are no easy prospects of getting affordable insurance. The connection between employment and Health Insurance is the focus of paul solmans report tonight, part of our regular series, making sense. Trust in jehovah and do what is good. Reporter connie boyd is trying hard to keep the faith since losing her job at an airport kiosk. If i no longer have a job, that means no longer Health Insurance for me. And with my illness, its very important that i have Health Insurance because i have crohns disease. Repter millions of americans now have no job or Health Insurance. Waitress Amanda Dawson lost both. When i contacted my Health Insurance provider to see if they could work something out on my premium. They said no. Talk to a Doctor Anytime anywhere for free. Reporter dawson had her own policy through the insurer oscar. She had to let it lapse. But half of us have employer provided coverage, like cook emma rittner, who lost her job in march. As of today, i dont have any insurance. And even though im on unemployment, the additional 600 a week puts everyone on unemployment over the cap for medicaid. Reporter uninsured, unable to afford treatment for a tooth infection that keeps flaring up. I did manage to get antibiotics from a friend whose mom regularly goes down to mexico to get medication for their parents, and ive been taking that, selfmedicating based off of doctor googles advice of every eight hours. And ill be continuing that for 10 to 14 day reporter but when you get laid off, dont you get cobra, this is bridging insurance for some period of time . For me, i cant afford 560 a month for coverage continuing through cobra. My biggest concern is my wife and my newborn baby. Reporter tim maddox lost his job as a United Airlines subcontractor last thursday. The next day his son was born via emergency csection. Hes fighting to keep insurance through the end of may. So this has caused a lot of stress and anxiety. When you think about you have a newborn and you have to make sure that you have to be able to take him to the doctor, you reporter then theres the pletch family. Mom sheri was abruptly laid off from her auto sales job in april. Her insurance . It was terminated the day i was terminated. And i was told i had until midnight that night to use any benefits. Reporter not enough time to stock up on the familys meds, which cost 700 a month. Dad keith gets no benefits, but he still works, meaning the family makes too much for medicaid and cant afford cobra. He works for a local company that distributes janitorial products to local businesses. So theyre selling Hand Sanitizer and toilet paper and disinfectants to the prisons and to Nursing Homes and retirement communities. He is out among people where there are known covid cases. If he were to contract or to bring it home to us, what we would do without Health Insurance . Reporter now, the uninsured can get a free covid test and their providers can be reimbursed for covid care. But that still leaves substitute teacher Frank Johnson with worries. He tried to buy a plan on the Affordable Care act marketplace. It was. Unaffordable. I think it was about 500 a month. And this was the lowest rate that they had to offer. And so here i am basically without insurance, during pretty much a pandemic. Because, of course, our health care is still in many ways tied to our jobs or its tied to a marketplace. The pandemic is laying bare a lot with problems with this system. Reporter princeton economist anne case. Her Nobel Prize Winning husband angus deaton were really hurting ourselves by having a Health Care System that sucks up so much money and destroys peoples lives. Reporter a few years ago, the couple coined the phrase deaths of despair. Its now the title of a book that blames much of the economic anguish of americas working class on the Health Care System. Its 18 of g. D. P. Is spent now on health care. Its taking money from regular people and its sending it up the Income Distribution to hospitals, to big pharma, to Device Manufacturers and to some subset of doctors. Some of the big hospitals in new york or philadelphia with executives, chief executives who are doctors, who are paid five or ten Million Dollars a year. Pharma executives get paid huge sums of money. Reporter pharma floods tv with ads; lots of insurers means armies of billers and payment deniers. And since health costs are so pricey, employers have a disincentive to provide it, especially to lowwage workers. So if that worker is worth 30,000 to the firm that and the firm has to pay 10,000 or 20,000 thousand for a single or a family policy, that becomes so unsustainable. And so either wages have to go down, which happens, or they shut the job altogether and decided they can do without it. And maybe they can hire in workers from the ranjan cleaning company or something so that they dont have to hire their own janitors all of those are outsourced and the people are left working for firms where there are no benefits, where there are dead end jobs, simply because of this enormous cost of healthcare. Reporter case in point asthmatic robert laurence, whose lowpaying gigs have never come with benefits. I was trash collector, i worked also at a shoe store. I worked at a call center. Reporter Health Insurance is a luxury he cant afford. You kind of have a choice. You know, do i pay my car payment or do i get my inhaler . Reporter but arent you worried, even though youre obviously quite young theres a pandemic there, something really bad could happen to you and you have no coverage . Im very, very worried about it. Its just that i dont have the money to really buy into that system. And hopefully i can get a better position. But, you know, the future is kind of looking bleak. Reporter and with the economics of covid 19, things could be bleak for years to come. Its possible that many, many, many people will get tens of thousands of dollars worth of medical bills that they cannot pay. Reporter Frank Johnson hopes he isnt one of them. So what happens if you get sick . Ah im just praying that i dont get sick. And just hopefully, you know, not, nothing happens and nobody around me gets infected. Reporter for the pbs newshour, paul solman. Woodruff this week, indias government began to relax one of the Worlds Largest lockdown orders, even as cases continue to spike. The shutdown has come at a massive economic and humanitarian cost. And, as special correspondent neha poonia reports, the outbreak has also led to a rise in attacks against muslims, leadinto a rare condemnation of the government there by the United States. Reporter a nation of 1. 3 billion people under lockdown for 54 days. Bustling cities turned into ghost towns overnight. Prime minister Narendra Modi made an unprecedented announcement to shut the country down, when india only had 500 reported covid19 cases. translated the entire country shall go under complete lockdown. A full ban is being imposed on people from stepping out of their homes. Reporter but implementing a complete lkdown in the worlds second most populous country comes with many challenges. For the affluent, working from home is easy, but for millions of migrant and daily wage laborers life came to a sudden standstill. As Companies Shut down and transport ground to a halt, migrant laborers found themselves on the streets, with no income and no money to buy food or pay rent. More than 1. 4 million laborers were left stranded in indian cities. And some hado other way but to walk. And walk. translated i slept on the road whenever i could and one night all my belongings were stolen. I had no food, no money and no way to contact my family. I still didnt make it back home. Reporter banwari lal and hundreds of other migrant laborers are now living in a makeshift government shelter in delhi. Its one of 37,000 shelters set up across the country. Here these men and women have food on their plates, a roof over their heads and access to medical care. But in these cramped quarters, its impossible to keep a safe distance. Rina asked us to use her first name only. Shes lived here for more than five weeks now, and she accuses the government of letting her down. She says given some warning, she could have reached her village in time. translated my family calls me everyday weeping uncontrollably. If my husband and i get covid19 how will they survive . Reporter rina is one of more than 140 million indians who have lost their jobs during the lockdown. Unemployment is at a record high of 27 and the shutdown is costing the Indian Economy nearly 5 billion in losses every day. And its not just the people at the bottom rung of Indias Economic ladder who have lost their livelihoods. In indias financial capital, mumbai, marketing managekapil tiwari has a job now, but doesnt know what tomorrow holds. Even my wife says, kapil how will you survive if your company asks you to stay at home then how will you survive . Because there are no jobs at present in the market. Reporter a few miles away, a more immediate worry is brewing. In asias largest slum. A Million People live here cheek by jowl, often in tiny one room houses. And more than 700 have tested positive for covid19 authorities are struggling to impose social distancing and warn that the actual count might be exponentially higher. This small space is home to Vishal Dravider and his family. But its impossible to stay indoors all the time. Theres no Running Water and no toilet. Every trip outside the house is a risk. translated at the community toilets, not all stalls have Running Water. There are usually long lines at the toilets too, staying away from people in such circumstances is tough. Reporter with its population density, the government realizes dharavi is a ticking time bomb. Estimates show india could have more than one million covid19 cases by midmay. Such a surge in infections will overwhelm Public Hospitals that are already grappling with a shortage of protective gear, ventilators and doctors. The government says its spending nearly 2 billion to strengthen the healthcare set up. While facilities are a concern, doctors say the infection isnt the only thing theyre battling. Many healthcare workers have been attacked by angry neighbors whove accused doctors of being carriers of the virus. Dr. Sanjibani panigrahi filmed this assault by her neighbor in march in the presence of her three year old son. I dont think even animals attack each other like this without any reason. Reporter shes not alone. Dr. Sachin nayak lived in his car for many days to keep his family safe. The toughest part . Not being able to see or hug his son. translated id never imagined a day would come where doctors who are trying to help keep people safe would be attacked. When such incidents happen, you feel extremely demoralized and demotivated. Every attack is a setback for indias fight against covid19 and is precious time lost. Reporter not just doctors, but Public Health experts and political critics say india needs to do more to keep its citizens safe, and that the window to do more is quickly shrinking. Social distancing and the extended lockdown are indias primary weapons against the pandemic. But with the government testing just over 800 people per million, experts warn its not nearly enough. A major concern asymptomatic people who could spread the virus unknowingly. Not just a Public Health challenge, the covid 19 outbreak is also exposing indias communal fissures. A gathering of islamic preachers in new delhi led to a huge spike in indias coronavirus cases in april. Many leaders of Prime Minister modis hindu majority b. J. P. Party blamed the rapid spread throughout the country on indian muslims. Since then, many muslims have been beatenup, others harassed and targeted online accused of being carriers of the virus. Including rana ayyub who says the Indian Government stands to gain from such a hate campaign. It is trying to obfuscate the truth by diverting the countrys attention to communalization of the virus and unfortunately it has had an impact. You see middle class narratives in india focusing on muslims being the villains and arent asking any questions of the government. Reporter critics have long accused indias ruling party of fomenting hate and inciting violence against minorities, especially muslims, a charge the party denies. So, as india battles covid19, its not just the lives of 1. 3 billion people at stake but also Indias National unity. For the pbs newshour, im neha poonia in delhi. Woodruff public outcry and calls for arrests in the killing of an africanamerican man in georgia more than two months ago are intensifying. As Yamiche Alcindor reports, the case drew widespread public attention after a video of the shooting was released on the internet earlier this week. Alcindor since then, judy, e nation has become familiar with this name Ahmaud Arbery. He was a 25yearold black man chased and killed by two white men while he jogged in a georgia neighborhood on february 23rd. The two men, Gregory Mcmichael and travis mcmichael, said they pursued him because they believed he looked like a suspect in recent burglaries. Arbery was unarmed. The video, shot from behind, seems to show that arbery was trying to go around their truck. They then confronted him and later shot him. They told police he attacked them as they were trying to hold him and wait for police. His father, marcus arbery, and his attorney, benjamin crump, join me now. Thank you so much for being here, both of you. Mr. Arbery, ahmaud was your baby son, the youngest, he was an athlete. He liked to run. Tell me how often he ran the route in that georgia neighborhood and whether he had any reason to fear for his life. He ran all the time. Everybody knows he ran all the time. So i dont see why this happened to him because thats all he did is ran and work out. He ran like three, four, five miles a day. Everyone know they ran. I dont know why they racial profiled him and done him like that because all he did is work out and ran and take care of his body because he had dreams now. All his dreams are gone because they took his life for nothing. Reporter how familiar was this neighborhood to your son, in particular . He stayed right across the street. His mother had a house right across the street from that neighborhood. Reporter ahmaud was very familiar with this neighborhood . He ran the neighborhood and the route often . Yes, maam. Reporter Gregory Mcmichael followed your son because he said he looked like a burglary suspect. Ahmauds mother said mcmichael said your son was killed during a burglary and a struggle. What do you make of that . Thats a line of coverup, trying to justify everything when theyre wrong. They know they got caught up when theyre wrong. Its a lynch mob. So theyre trying to cover up what thy messed up. They have been doing that for years. Corruption in this town is real bad. So hes been lynched. To do their own work and do your job, arrest these terrible people. Get them out of this get them off the streets before they try to lunch anybody elses kid. Get them off the streets. They need to be behind bars for a long, long, long time. Get em off the streets. We just want justice and get them off the streets because aint nooom for them, notn a small town like this. Reporter mr. Arbery is talking about a modern day lynching. Two prosecutors recused themselves. A third Prosecutor Says this needs to go to a grand jury. What do you believe needs to happen and do you believe theres anything that needs to happen . I do, yamiche. The bureau of investigations has taken over the case and told us they are going to look at the case with fresh eyes. We asked on them to not to rely on anything from the local officials from the southeastern georgia Law Enforcement community because they are too close to Gregory Mcmichael who worked there as a formepolice officer and a detective for the District Attorney for over 30 years. So if they look at it with fresh eyes, then they will have probable cause simply based on this video that shows this horrific execution of marcus baby boy, his youngest son, who would celebrate his birthday tomorrow, had they not murdered him. So we believe that they have the probable cause to arrest these i cant even think a father and son, a murderous duo. They have the probable cause right now to arrest them for the murder of Ahmaud Arbery. Woodruff reporter you also want to see a third man charged. You want to see the man who shot the video also charged and arrested . Certainly. The person who was in the vehicle, helping them to chase Ahmaud Arbery just because to have the color of his skin because we dont buy any of this allegation he was committing a burglary. Theres no evidence of that. He had a tshirt and shorts on. He didnt have burglary tools or a mask or anything, he was simply a young man exercising and, as mr. Marcus has said on many occasions, if this was him and his son ahmaud and they got in a truck with a shotgun and a. 357 magnum and chase add young white man jogging through the community in broad daylight and he eded up dead, they would be arrested middl immediately, d anybody who said and abetted them, anybody who videotaped or was with them would also be held accountable. So why do we have o Justice Systems in america, one for black america and one for White America . Reporter Treyvon Martin was culled in 2012, your son killed february 3rd. They would have been the same age had they lived. Did you talk to your son about treyvon and have the conversation around racism we have been having . Yes, i talk to my kids all the time. My son knows, treyvon knows. Reporter tell me how you talk to your son about Treyvon Martin. I just told him racism is pretty deep when youre a black africanamerican. They really set you up when youre racial profiled. They set you up where they want you and they take your life. I always told my kids about that. Reporter and what do you want the nation to know about your son . I just want the nation to know that he was a good boy, wellmannered, andes just loved the people. You know, he was the kind of young man that you need a dollar here, he gave it to you. Reporter and now you want to see justice for your son . Definitely. I just want to see this lynch mob where they belong. Because they will kill again, and there aint no room for that in this little small town. Reporter mr. Arbery, mr. Crump, thank you so much for coming on. Thank you, yamiche. Woodruff woodruff we are reaching out to police, prosecutors and the mcmichaels to see if they will speak to us as well in the coming days. Woodruff that brings us to this weeks ask us segment where we take your questions on the pandemic to experts who can help us make sense of these difficult times. We have received a wide range of questions across our web site and our various social media platforms twitter, instagram and facebook. For the record, facebook is a funder of the newshour. Amna nawaz has more. Nawaz thanks, judy. And thanks to all of you for sending us your questions. Now, as you know, some businesses around the country are opening back up, leaving many of you concerned about the risks of going back to work. To answer your questions about Workplace Safety during the pandemic, were joined by christina banks. Shes the director of the Interdisciplinary Center for Healthy Workplaces at the university of california, berkeley. Christina, welcome to the news hour and thanks for being with us. Thank you. Nawaz so lets jump right into the questions now. The very first one comes from sally station. Well, shes from connecticut. She reached out on facebook and she sent us this video. Im concerned i may contract the virus from one of my coworkers or vise versa. Weve been Wearing Masks and gloves and distancing six feet since march 15th. But lifes not perfect. Do i need to be worried . Nawaz christine, as salli says, shes got mask, gloves there distancing what else can she be asking her employer for . Well, one of the things that she didnt mention was cleaning. And the reason why this is important is because the risk and the danger is invisible. And so we need to be thinking about all the Different Things and what i would recommend is that sally and anyone else in this condition, talk to the employer about what is the protocol. Are they following h. H. S. And c. D. C. Guidelines so that their safety can be assured in the workplace . Nawaz open line of communication is a good idea. Making sure the guidelines are all clear. Lets get to another question now. This one comes from greg sinc from ohio. He submitted his question on facebook. And greg writes the following, my concern is the government and employers will use Antibody Test rests in hiring and firing decisions. If youre not immune, you lose your job. Christina, what about this issue . Could we see discrimination based on lab results or your health or immunity in the workplace . Its a really good question and im really glad that greg brought up that question. And its because we have to understand right off the bat that Antibody Tests are not perfect and that they can result in false positives and false negatives. The one we have to worry about what it means in terms of a so you really have to worry about it having a discriminatory effect. The best way to use antibody body tests in the future, i believe, is to gage the risk that an individual has by returning to the workplace. A negative means greater risk, more protection. So i think that would be a proper way of using these tests. Nawaz very useful information. Lets jump down to another question. This is from rosie saing gallivant. Shes a School Teacher from new jersey. She submitted a question via facebook. Heres rosie now. Id like to know how we can send teachers back into the classroom when, because of health or age, they mighbe the most at risk for infection in a building where there might be as many as 1300 students. How do we protect everyone . Im a teacher. Im at risk. And i am not the only one with these concerns. Nawaz christina, what can you say to rosie wayno, schools acro the country remain closed, but what can you say to teachers like her who are worried out there . Well, she should be worried because even though we would love our children to go back to school and teachers back to the classroom, theres no such thing as social distancing in those environments. And then you also consider kids, the children at school. They like to affiliate. They like to touch. They like to touch their teachers. And so even the prohibitions of, you know, not touching, social distancing, Wearing Masks, all of those things. Its just not practical. So i can imagine, though, its hard to say this, but i imagine that the only way to keep teachers and students safe is to wait for the vaccine. Nawaz that is thats very sobering right there. Good information for teachers and for parents of kids and school out there. Lets just take one last question now, christina. This ones from nicole stanton. Shes from texas. She submitted her question on twitter. And heres the thing to know about nicole. Her wife is the sole earner in the family, and nicole is worried about her wife returning to work. Heres nicole now. She has a neurodegenerative disease and is immunocompromised. My mom lives with us and is receiving treatments for terminal lung cancer. So my wife may have to decide if she wants to risk two lives and go into the office or refuse and risk four lives. My wife. Me, mom and our adult son. Nawaz christine, nicole has a lot of concerns there. But what can you say to someone like her right now . Well, i think it comes down to whether she wants to work or whether she wants to not work, if she chooses not to work and protect her family. That means shes looking for economic support. And there is the family and medical leave act, which would provide some economic support if she does want to work. Then we should talk about alternative Work Arrangements. So the alternative Work Arrangements is working from home, and working at some remote location, not at the work site. But the important thing is that whatever location that is, that it has to be a Single Person use. And that there is a possibility for social distancing. So these are just some alternatives that might be considered, but its a tough situation to be in. Nawaz it is a tough situation, indeed. A lot of people out there weigng some of those tough factors. Christina banks of the university of california, berkeley, thanks for being with us and taking these questions today. Thank you so much. Naz and thanks to you for joining us for this round of ask us. Your questions, you can send us more via newshours twitter, facebook and Instagram Account or on our website, thats pbs. Org newshour. Woodruff and thats the newshour for tonight. Im judy woodruff. Join us online and again here tomorrow evening. For all of us at the pbs newshour, thank you, please stay safe and see you soon. Major funding for the pbs newshour has been provided by the ford foundation. Working with visionaries on the frontlines of social change worldwide. And with the ongoing support of these institutions and friends of the newshour. This program was made possible by the corporation for public broadcasting. And by contributions to your pbs station from viewers like you. Thank you. Captioning sponsored by newshour productions, llc captioned Media Access Group at wgbh access. 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