The pa. Reflecting thrge in th polls, Pete Buttigieg came under fire for his political inexperience while Kamala Harris try to regain momentum. On capitol ll, House Democrats heard from witnesses this week in the hm impeent investigation of resident trauma. Former white house advisor fiona hill and ambassador were among those that test testified. There was a quid pro quo for ukraine while fiona hill characterized the campaign as a domestic political errand. With us now is go chronicle and hundrepresident of sheeted people, amy allison. Thank you for being with us. Journalists start with you, just been made of south bend, indiana mayor pete the judge and his recent rise in the polls. What was his goal on wednesday and you think he achieved it. The goal is not to be a beat down. He has biggerproblems. He is ahead in a state that is white. When it comes to california, the stats here ofsay half latinos dont even know who he is. He has real problems. When he goes to south carolina, black folks are not into the campaign at all. What is amazing, there is no path to victory in the primary without winning significant black support, particularly around women. Heis as ose to zero as they come. I thought last night or this weeks was the opportunity to make the case up authentic appeal to black voters, particularly black women. He was challenged on his Racial Justice record in south bend. I feel like he fell flat. He didnt gain momentum. Therefore as it relates voto blacrs, the judge Pete Buttigieg did not gain. Is ind im loforward to making outreaches into communities but he didnt even show up to the africanamerican caucus to the election. Kamala harris called him out. Amy you were at the debate in atlanta, what was the mood like . It is teresting. It istyler perry studios in atlanta. Estate that was electrified and transformed by the campaign of stacey abrathat did the preshow rally. Was very clear when we heard from the mayor of atlanta, Stacey Abrams and congressman as lewis as weltom perez that georgia is the middle of the le baound states. 1. 4 points from being a blueth state. Recognize that not only do they have to deal with Voter Suppression and we didnt hear enough about that on stage. The need invest now in order to elevate turnout, even more than we saw in record numbers. For 20 there was a sense of people in the audienfo, really looking signals from the candidates. Who was able to speak the language of a multiracial coalition. It can be man or women of any race. Are they going to appeal to people like in georgia. Some did a very good job and others fell on their face. That was mea good ure of who will positioned to reassemble the Obama Coalition into 2020. One of the most stking things was this was the firshe debate all four moderators were women. And me and joe, you can answer this if you would like. You think that affected the tenor of the debate and what was talked about . I thought it was good. In the sense that childcare was brought up. That is a universal concern of parents in terms of being a burden and there is not a National Solution to this. We were really able to hear from the candidates more deepn aroundissue that affects more of us. Having women on the stage did make a difference in that way. The issue of abortion and choice was addressed more than before. There were many more issues around. I thought it was positive. They talked about housing which hasnt gotten a lot of play. That is another issue. It is the first time we ally had a discussion about housing. If you look at women, particularly womof color, they will be the swing vote. The battle itof the house and the vote that ultimately decides who is a thandardbearer for democratic party. These isshes matter. The people just worked with center for American Progress on a roof or that said if you talk issues and issues that speak to the base islike the es we were talking about, those are the things that excite people and get them to the polls. This is what needs to happen more and more. Na the california r Kamala Harris came out swinging. She is trying to revitalize her campaign. Between her and congressman. Lets listen. It is unfortunate that we have someone on the sta attempting to be the democratic nominee for president of the United States who during the Obama Administration spent four years fulltime on fox ne criticizing president obama. That ridiculous. What senator harris is doinng is continto traffic and lies and smears and innuendos. She cannot challenge the substance of the argument that im making. The leadership and change amtha i seeking to bring. Why spend so much time attacking her . Can we say how amazing it was to have two women of cog r talkout form policy . It is historic and i want to appreciate that. We have the diversity that allo for these exchanges. I think the senator had to punch down. It is not worthy of my response. This time it is very important for the senator in establishing her being in straightline to continue the tradition of obama to say she doesnt represent any part of the Obama Coalition and to push her furtheout and say that she doesnt really represent those voters that shes trying to app it is a bit of a fact check. She did appear on x about 20 times during the obama presidency. She did have a meeting with trumpet trump tower after he was abected. Talkint form policy. It was an accurate statement. Another fact check, both candidates are polling 35 . Neither of them are a major factor at this point. She has taken on the role of debate. Cial troll of the hey candidate, is understanding. Each one of these candidates is time to figure out their lane. Some of the challenges senator harris is trying to establish deherself in a te lane. Pete buttigieg and biden are in that space. He was establishing new lane which was that. She would be pulled over for changing lanes so often. Starting in the left for medicare foall i know Public Health insurance and then now she is veering off. Lets move on to impeachment hearings. We had three days of hearings. I heard wifrom nine esses. This is only week 2 of all the people we ard from, whstood out for you . Fiona hill. She was credible, expert and spoke with auenticity and clarity. She called out the republicans was the story about thukraine that have been lltelling. I tell you, as an expert, it is not true, it is a falsehood. And the meddling in the ssia election. En her au i feelwas the le american pe i think we have to appreciate the impeachment hearings are a way to publicly discuss these issues. I think she had a big impact on public percept what was going on. One of the other moments was when said there was quid pro quo. How did republicans ead . He said there is a quid pro quo, on what. uthe exchange of the nameeting . Theyative down to the meeting. He came off clownish. He is not a professional diplomat. He is a rich guy who gave 1 million to the inaugural address. He did for both sides. Ofwhat comes out the week of hearings, trump will be impeached. He will not be removed from office. You didnt get a lot of sense that thwe moving away, despite the stuff, the connection that was made. We are kind of where we predicted at the beginning of the hearings. Do what you think are the key risks for e democrats in coming weeks or months . Dont let a drag on too long. I dont know how much control they will have once it gets te into the se that starts going into a couple of weeks before the iowa caucus, thatwill be e big show and it will not be the showcase for the candidates. Bs you have what five wisenator that have to spend time voting and acting as jurors. That will tough. If the democrats had not moved forward, it would have been demotivating. I think it is important th it is happening, about being motivated to wr things up quickly. Jamie allison cofounder of the the people, thank you for joining me. Pg on wednesday, began shutting off power in parts of 11 counties in Northern California, including napa and sonoma. It is the second month that pg e has cut off power to customers to avoid sparkin a wildfire with equipment during dry and windy weather. On monday, lawmakers in sacramento called executives from the esstates three t investorowned utilities, inclteing pg e to ify about last months outages. At the hearing, the pg e ceo bill johnson said the shutoffs are not a sustainable solution to the threat of wildfire. Joining me now is kqed reporter and editor dan brekke. Lets start with this weeks shutoffs. We heard from pg e the beginning of the week that than 300,000 customers could lose power. Then a few days later, they pare that down to 150,000 customers. What wagoing on . The weather conditions were changing. That 300,000 was when they thought the wind would cover a wiea. They were also expecting level and to exacerbate the fire danger. As weather change, they narrowed the foot and. When they did the shutoffs, the only shutoffs i say 50,000 customers. That could be about 125,000 people. What areas ended up losing power . The wherefro sonoma county, northern and eastern, across to the northern sierra s vada. It confined to a smaller area than we have seen in al of thesearlier shutoffs. The all clear was called yesterday. Either still folks without power . Just about everyby is back online. Pg e is saying they think are probably through with the season. There is potential for high wi on monday. Even so, it doesnt look like a fire dange there is rain forecast as well. It hasnt rained in most of the bay area or Northern California in many months. Next week is supposed to break the dry spell. We could get an inch two of rain and a lot of snow in the sierra nevada. Maybe we will be done th this crazy period of losi pg e has been under pressure to do a better job of communicating when and where the safety shutoffs will occur. How did they dothis me around. It is hard to tell unless you are in one of these areas that is being shut off. The communication is a bit ifre directyou are in those areas. The only way to really know for sure if you will be turned off or not, is if you actually went online and looked up your address. As we were saying, this is a moving target. It was hard to tell from the outside looking in, where they would turn off power and when. That said, the website stayed up which it didnt in early october. I think people would agree that they didnt better b this time. Communication was a major focus ndays hearing in front of the Senate Energy utilities and Communications Committee in sacramento. What did ecthe pg e ives have to say when questioned . We talked about how it is not a sustainable solution. One of the things he was tryi to do is correct or walk back a statement he made last month. It may take 10 weyears before get out of this regime. Theres a message that pg e is committed to improving the infrastructure of these power shutoffs could be much more closely targetede that was main message. Also trying to deal with the widespread outrage that they frare hangin the governor and legislators and customers and filocal als of the impact of having the lights turned off on a regular basis. There were two otedr investoroutilities at the hearing. San diego gas and electric and socal edison. Did they have the same kind of feeling drilling from lawmakers. Southern california edison does not have a spotless record and terms ofstarting fires with electrical infrastructure. They started fires this year. San diego gaand electric is a Smaller Service territory, just san diego county. That is a lot of customers. They started working on this ab thint how do you mitigate wildfire danger when you have thisdangerous electricity and the wind is blowing at 80 miles per hour. They started on that more than 10 years ago. They are now the darling of the regulators and legislators. They worked out more sophisticated methods of dealing with it. That is pretty much reflected in the receion they are getting in frsacramento and the Public Utilities commission in san francisco. Is there mething they could learn from . Pg e said ma times ther trying to execute some of the same practices that has adopted. Partly because they keep hearing and we keephearing that sdg e does a od job. The record does show that since the really started into the rg program of ed power shut off, they have started no large fires. What about compensation . Can you give an update . Itis a bit of a mess. We dont know, there are s competing plfore the bankruptcy court. The state and Governor Newsom are talking about a backup plan. It sounds like you might be lutions. Ward puic ownership it is a bit unclear. In the meantime, the deadline wildfire loss or who have been victims were just granted an extension until december 31 to file their claim. A lot is unresolved as far as victim ticompensa. Stack wednesday markthe 50th anniversary of the occupation of Alcatraz Island by native american stents and mmunity leaders, calling themselves the indians of all tribes, the ov group took the former prison to push for federal recognition of native american rights and msland cl the occupation ended when armed marshals rated the island 19 months later in june 1971. Today, a new generation of activists are commemorating thek historicver and showing why, in the words of one of its leaders, alcatraz is an idea and not an island. 20 know is eloi martinez, a native american activist and one of the original community how are you. Im good thank you. Alcatraz island is known as the home of the federal prison with infamous prisoners like al capone. Why did you and other Indigenous Leaders decide to take it over . . Alcatraz . It was very dissimilto reservations, not sustainable, itckwas a you couldnt grow anything. Nothing there. It was one of those things wanted toshow everybody and the conditions and how they exist on reservations and because inthe eastthey have the statue of liberty that says welcome. We wanted something similar that said the ships could see you coming in. Can you describe what life was like the in the early months . It was cold. It wasnt supposed to happen until spring of 1970. The Indian Center burned down. The Indian Center in n francisco . They were in the process of turning it into the monte carlo of the last. We decided we d to move quick. Also, some of the leaders, wanted to take over. They had gone to an indian conference in minnesota wants to take over the islands they can claim they were part of that. There was a lot that went on. It was adciting. Thnaline was high. People were glad to be free. There was ghno overin kids running all over discovering things. Was also scar at that time you have to remember, everything going on. E black panthersd all of the things, people getting killed some of ouleaders got killed. Was all part of that system to target individual leaders that were strong. He was a strong leader at that time. You have a fond memory of beinon alcatraz . I have a lot of fond memories. Itwas awesome. Just watching the kids play. Itas probably one of the biggest gatherings we have had. There was an original 14. The 93 that came back on the 20th. Than on thanksging, close to 400 people. It kept increasing. Over the course of the time probably 30,000 people went through the island. That was not really, it was hard. After they took , they didn have any water. With people one on e island they had to bring food and water. Some people didnt have money to pay the three. Dollars fa they gave jewelry and stuff that they had. One of the guys has a lot of that stuff and brought it to the first occupation showoff. How would you say the takeover reverberates today, wh her his protests over pipelines on native land or other protest . It is necessary. At standing rock, a lot of people dont talk about it. It was a really bad place to be. Went there three times. Before we got there, they had rayed racing poison. They spread at we weall camped out. A lo of peopcame back sick. If you saw any of the footag the way they treated the people, the dogs and fire hoses and that stuff, times havent changethat much. Itwas really good to see the young peopat were there. They were fearless. That is like alcatraz back the day. These young people are all over the place, they are infoth front doing their ing. One of the original organizers of the occupation described alcatraz as and i dia rather than physical space. Is that something you agree with and what does that mean . It means the idea is spreadin a lot of people left d went to do other things. Went back to her tribe and told the ty, we will bring our own water and. Inthe tribe is really well. Almost everybody that was there e idea was to make the native americans invisible. We are accomplishing that now. Right now there is probably 300 were on the island. There are a bunch of originals. There will be a big thing. Some of us havent seen each other in 50 years. Yearago, when we last, everybody would say you didnt accomplish much we accomplish termination was ended and tribes that their property back. 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