Administration unveiled a new regulation that would allow for the indefinite detention of migrant families crossing the border. If approved, the rule would eliminate a key part of a 1997 Court Settlement that limits the detention of unaccompanied custody. 20 days in Administration Officials argue the new rule is necessary to deter mass migration at the border, but it islikely to face legal challenges from immigration advocates , ch as the acluwhich denounced the move as yet another cruel attack on children. Joining menow to discuss this is university of San Francisco law professor bill yang and immigration editor hendrix. Welcome to both of you. Professor, the new rule, it published today. What happens next . A federal judge has to approve it. What is the process . Legal papers are being filed as we speak actually challenging the new proposed regulation, and e government will respond and the judge, the federal judge overseeing the case, will hear arguments very soon and make a decision on whether or not the regulations are consistent with the settlement agreement. For people who dot know there y is a Court Settlement from 1997 in play here. It es blished this 20day limit on detaining migrant children. Absolutely. Back in the Clinton Administration there was a legal settlement the basically said children are vulnerablet they are the same as adults, and ioimmigrit needs to care for them with the Child Welfare standards in mind. So the ttlement favors release of children as quickly as possible, keeping them in the least restrictive setting as possibleit in facility licensed for childcare by the state. It also gave oversight to the plaintiffs attorneys representing the kids to be able to go in and monitor and at make sure conditions were okay. So that, under the Obama Administration there were a lot more families coming, and ey set upthese Family Detention Centers that i. C. E. Was running, and the judge said those arednot licefor childcare. That is not an appropriate place for kids, it is more of a jail like city. The government said least 20 days probably to get these kids placed in a proper facility or get them released. And the ninth Circuit Court af appealrmed that 20 days th it would be acceptable if you are moving with, you know, Due Diligence and in good faith to put them in a more approp ate situatio so that is where the 20 day thg came from. Professor, what with the elimination of this 20 day limit lead to . It would lead to the possibility, honestly, of ey can release, they can turn these families over in theory to a state licensed facility, but that was the problem dethat the l government had. There are no state licensed of facilities for family detention. Children who are alone, unaccompied children, they do get turned over to state license facilities, but not families. That is why the 20 days ntconstricted the govern actually had to release folks. The been releasing many of these families with ankle monitors for example. But now the vernment is proposing that they want to keep them longer because they presumably need mo time to take care of resettlement, but the Trump Administration has admitted tha about deterrence. They want to send a message to migrants that you should no come herebecause you may end up being in custody for a long time. Want to ask you about that in a second, but i want to ask first, do you think that these , detetion centas they are established now, are equipped to house families, lots of families, for a long time . There are about three of these facilities, the biggest ones in texas, i think they can hold about 3000 people altogeer, 3000 beds fo parents and kids. I think if theyre going tothdo indefinite thing, they would need more space. Anch you know, d advocate say that detaining children, even if they are with their ar parents, is harmful for kids. So as the professor said, detention isnt required. The Top Administration says they want to hold people while asylum proceedings go forward, but those cases can take years, and the courts are very backlogged. So lets get back this issue of trying to send a message. I heard a white house spokesperson basically saying the flores settlement incentivized immigration, a family or a family sized group know they willbe detained for 20 days and then basically released into the country to await trial. There and, it l. All good, s their journey all been worth it. Is this what you have seen . Absolutely not. Feel so bad about what is going on, at the clinic we have at the university of San Francisco we have over 300 cases, and half of those are family units. I went to honduras inmarch and spoke with families that were thinking of leaving, and i volunteered at the border in tijuana. These fos are fleeing cause of desperate circumstances. Theyre not coming to visit disneyland. Their fleeing violence, gains, cartels and in many cases domestic violence. In my experience, these folks are t coming jufor a walk in the park. Llion an emergency 4. 8 humanitarian aid. The earmarkefunds to prove conditions in immigration detention facilities based in part on what the professor and other Immigration Attorneys reported seeing at a facility that housed migrant kids, moths and babies. Along with removing the limit on detaining famigranlies, what with this new rule affect the conditions at the facilities where migrant familiesre being held . I think one of the other big changes that would happened, if the new rule goes into effect and the flores settlement goes these plaintiffs attorneys on behalf of the children have and that the federal judge has to make sure that conditions arup o par and are appropriate for kids, that oversight goes away. The lawyers, like the professor, have be able to inside the facilities and talk to children, and that would not exist anymore. So also without the threquireme thatfacilities be license for childcare by a state like the California Health and Human Services folks, then it is vee federal ment doing its own licensing, and there are concerns at there isnot as much independent oversight of conditions. Immigration, stopping it essentially, has been the banner dont give groundissue for the Trump Administration. Do you see any daylight for a compromise . A conversation that leads to to President Trump,t democrats, immigrvocates coming together and maki some sort of compromise that ratchets down the rhetoric that we hear so often about immigration . I wish i could be more hopeful. In my opinion, this is really his base. P trying to it doesnt have to be labeling these migrants a National Security risk. Actually could be doing what was happening prior to 2014. I am saying this about president obama as well, it is become a pejorative term, but catch edd release wo people were arrested, taken into detention but process very quickly. They were sent along your way beeruse i. C. E. Knows folks are going. They have the names, addresses of relatives. There is a very high appearance ray. So people were t absconding. Until we recognize the humanitarian nature of really why people are leaving, i nt think that theres going to be room for negotiation unless that kind of rhetoric is ratcheted down . N university safrancisco law professor and kqed immigration editor. Thanks both of you for joining us. By now most students in the bay area are back in school after the summer break, but these days a lot of students are struggling with anxiety on top of their academics, ether it is the pressure to perform Mass Shootings on campus and in public spaces, triggers for feeling overwhelmed or anxious about. Parents and achers can also miss warning signs and struggle with how best to help. Joining me now is katrina schwartz, the cohost of the mind shift podcasts and jenelle scott, a professor at eluc be graduate school of education. Welcome to you both. Thank you. Katrina, i can trmember when in10th grade i realized that high schoolis hard. I had a history class that i loved. I love to the teacher, and i wasnt doing well it. I was struggling. So i got really anxious about it. But in your mind shift podcasts as we, i get the sense etthe anthat you were focusing on is more multayered. One kids anxious about today . I think is or anxious about a lot of things, and it is kind of differer every kid, but youre right that we are not just talking about stress, were talking about debilitating anxiety. A condition that gets in the way of stuff anlike work school and social life. Aling with re academic pressure, but other kids are dealing with eiworryin about families and what is going on in the immigration system or violence in their ing hborhoods or disappoi their parents. It is very differ it depends on the kid. In the podcast you spend time with an El Cerrito High School studentbrianna parrish of. I want to play a clip of heretscribing how an would overtake her. I started thinking about my mom, like, she needs better and i should be doing thisand i am not doing and i start to panic. And then i cant breeze, and then i get shaky. And i end up a ball on the floor just trying to get my breathing back on track. Wow. That is very overwhelming, paralyzing. W as shdoing now . It is heartbreaking, isnt it . Shes doing a lot better. Her anxiety really will along she was reallygood at hiding all of that, but when they at school she had a scpanic attack and her first period teacher took her to a place at the school, a Wellness Center, the ttd jamesmoorhouse , and she was able to see a counselor. Over time she delved and some of her issues, to care of some of her depression and also her anxiety. She is actually going to Community College this year. Awesome. Jenelle scott, we are hearing a lot about abonline bullying, other expressions of hate that students, when they go to school, have to al with and process. Is this something that academics are tracking . Yes. Certainly. I think when we think about children and adolescents in school today, we have to understand their living at this and social media. Given the me climate in which we are living in our society in which we are seeing hate speech and messages abound, certainly students are bringing much of that school, and so, there was a recent study out of ucla the tracked nationally represented School Principals and found reported hearing antirant ipals sentiments from their high school students. At school. That is just a small sample. We see here similar things about transgender students, and racist messages at school. Violeane is also issue on a School Campus in public spaces, as a mentioned. About this. E to be thinking how are School Districts handling this need for awareness, but also management of that awareness for the right. L of violence . With the rise of Mass Shootings and School Shootings , particulstricts have engage in active shooter drills, we have seen some of those displayed in the media around the country, but i think the consideration is whether those e ills actually ra anxiety or alleviate anxiety. Districts i think are reallyhi figuringout as they go along. There taking a look at their school security, locking gates, having visitor check ins. All these thgs aimed at keeping children safe, but i think attending to the social and emotional needs of the children at the same time as we is something distare cal safety still very much working through. Weve been hearing a lot about the presence of perhaps more police officeon campus. I imagine that cuts both ways for some students. Certainly. For racially minor ties to students who have come of age and erin an in which we are seeing Police Violence targeted towards children who look like them, the presence of more police is not necessary a mfort for those students. Because we have highly segregated schools by race and socioeconomic status, we often see those schon s where minority students attend are moha likely to metal detectors for example that students need to walk through, armed police. We also see a disproportionali rate of disc and punishment for those students in those schools. The sort of, you know, inteion to protec students can actually make the feel left safe at school. Katrina, are schools, parents even, ready, adapt at detecting anxiety . Like unmanageable anxiety in students . I think this is a really tricky issue because okanxiety can like a lot of things. For example, it looks like procrastination. Art looks like poor time manan ment. So you imagine as a parent of a high school student, you are just thinking, do your homework. Why are you starting your homework . But really might be they recan therly struggling to even put the pencil to paper. They are avoiding it because they know they are ing to be having a really hard time with a. So i think the psychologists i talked to really emphasized trying to have a collaborative approach with your kid, being curious about inwhat is on. Rather than just jumping to the conclusion of your lazy and not doing your homework, try to say what is going on, why are you feeling th way. Gether maybe we can come up with some solutions and strategies to handle the anxiety. The same goes with teachers as well. Anxiety can look like, you kn , defiance. It clook like just messing around in class. It is very hard to see these things correctly identified. I know you were a teacher in the Oakland Unified School district for a while. One of the issues that i know is on the minds anof students parents and even teachers is the fact that some schools may be closing. Is this something that you think iscontributing to anxiety . Rtainly in the district this is a very hot spot. The, there has been a recommendation by a state sanctioned organization to close to 24 schools in the near future. The district is taking a apslow oach that. The d ideas to put more resources into fewer schools, but the process by which schools arbeing slatedto close is fa ly opaque and has raised a lot of anxiety for students, parents and teachers. Katrina, you ntioned a Wellness Center and a program atEl Cerrito High School. That offers me some hope that tr schools arng to figure out what they can do about this, but what other resources are out there . At el cerrito high amschool for e the talked about making the passing periods a little bit longer so students tween t quite so rushed classes. Or moving to a black sc were stints only have four classes per semester instead of fewer things to worrabout. Just concentrate on those few. There are macro ways. In addition, there do things like running anxiety groups to make sure that students dont feel alone, thatthey know there are other people struggling with this, and they are getting strategies for how to manage. Cohost miof kqed nd shift podcasts and a professor at ey berkel graduate school of education, thank you very much to you both. To hear more of the interview with students aboueir struggles with anxiety, go to kqed. Org. In the north pole a web series streaming on youtube, friends ce nges and s for three forge Creative Solutions as they navigate life in North Oakland. Their journey is both humorous and poignant, pushed and pulled by timely struggles ranging from gentrification to Climate Change and immigration in a politically polarized americ actor Rosario Dawson serves as executive producer and stars in the oncoming second se joining me now are the w rth pole director, cowriter and cocreator and son ta go rosa who plays betty. Welcome. For people who are just learning about the north pole, s what is series and what inspired it . I would call it a drama the. Very comedic approach to very dramatic issues facing all of us day. Follows forming characters, three locals om North Oakland, and how they deal with the first season gentrification, jobs versus health, all these things are affecting our community. And the metaphor of the show is really, when i was growing up and going to high school in oakland, in the bay area, that neighborhood, North Oakland was s a hiphop song that my peereawere calling other polar bears. So since we addressed a lot of Climate Change also on her show, thatinis the metaphor, the locals of this neighborhood are being displaced in the same a polar the north pole. Dilaced in that is what we play withlia ttle bit. Wow. I will confess i moved to North Oakland three years ago from another part ofcalifornia, and this was when i started working at kqed. I had no idea that it was actually called the north pole, the people who had been there for a long time were called polar bears. But i actually think this would be a good moment to show a clip of santiago rosa in action as betty since he is actually talking about polar bears in this clip. Please brother the polar be s. Excuse me mada glutenfree, dairy free, organically s mmerce. Are planetmost majestic creatures are under attack. Save the polar bears. Save the environment. Do the donations go to support the arctic penguins tweak the actually piglets are found get down on the sell side. We dont have them up north, but lucky for you, we got love for both in this program. Thats great. You must be having blast. How did you get this part and what drew you to it . You know, first i of all heard about the gig on sf casting, a local for actors. When i heard abt it, it was right up my alley because it talks a lot about social justice. It talks a lot about issues that, for me, are miliar. I studied at Arizona State university and got a degree in social justice, and so, as an actor whenever you work on a project that stands for something, it is a nobrainer. For me, when i heard about what ty were talking about, what the message was, i had to audition for it. In the audition process was awesome. I went in there and just was myself, and i t had a of fun doing. Itwas mentioned this is a dramedy, comic situations a come at a very very serious issues. I wonder if you workhard to avoid caricature. Because caricature, stereotypes, very tempting in ay situation when youre trying to make comedy. Is th something asan actor youre working hard to avoid . You know why . Im very grateful for my training. I studied acting here in San Francisco. One of the ings that they really stress is just truth. For me, wowhatever i on roll, it is not about making a character, it is bout making a foresighted character. It is abt being real, just like us. If you think about it, like you are creating a human being. And just like, you juow, man beings are all complex people. You know, so we laugh and cry, and for me, it definitely was about the truth, the truth of the situation, the truth of whatinis really out there in the world. So for me, like, it was just an opportunity to, you know, help guide the story anbe as honest and truthful as possible. Can i ask you as the director and cocreator, is avoiding caricature important in conceptualizing and building the show . Absolutely. It is harder when youre depicting people you disagree with. People you think are thtainet of a lot of her complaints. Definitely. I think it is about humanizing also attracted folks to experience the show who might i totally agree about everything. So i think showing complexi, both for those with you dialgree with and the show features folks of color. I think a lot of times you start to see more and more in film, folks of color acting performing, but theyre usually onedimensional or two dimensional characters. You know, we tried to display that we are mans, and we can go from being really intellectual and will moment to switching and being y something goand playful or more aggressive. Obligated characters. One of the executive producers of the north pole is actually a nonprofit called movement generation. Who are they, and what do they bring to a production like this . It is a very unique collaboration. Hae ever experienced this collaboration with a nonprofit creating a fictional work. What they brinis a story that matters. The issues, han we have to have people really care about the people that are involved and affected. And more topractical terms, lets say we were talking in the Second Season where dressing wildfires as a subtext, and so, as creators we are like, okay, this can happen, whatever we come wi up, storylines weeping to them and they address, this is not that realistic. Would be more practical for us to use an Actual Movement building. Its a coaboration in the Creative Process to make it actually have a life outside of the screen. To actually really be useful for people in grassroots movements. Santiago, youre not from oakland. Kland. Oaou went to hool in and seems in the show to be a character. It is not just taking place in oakland, but is it a character in your mind that plays a part in the show . Absolutely. Not just in what you see, but the energy of oakland really pushes and pulls these characters to react to the world around them. You know, we have an actual polar bear in the show. The alspirit anof this neighborhood. And so, i think and a lot of mye work, oakland nitely with its history of social justice, you know, if something happens in the country, thursday march inisoakland. Thera gathering. And musically in terms of the ar, oakland actually deadly has a flavor that we ece prng in the show. Yvonne and santiago, participants, producers, actors in the north polethshow. Ks very much for joining me. Season 2 of the north pole premier september 10. Until then, you can catch up on season number one, anit is worth a. Streaming now thenorthpoleshow. Com but that will do it for us. As always, you can find more of our coverage on kqed. Org. Thanks for joining us. Robert whiplash on the econo as President Trump clashes with his critics. On robert costa. Welcome to washington week. President trump payroll tax is something we think about, a lot of people would like w to see tt im not looking at a tax cut now, we dont need it. On we have a seconomy. 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