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And by bloomberg, a provider of multimedia news and Information Services worldwide. Captioning sponsored by Rose Communications rose whats the object lesson here . I want a restaurant just like that. We begin with a look at the news of the week. Here are the sights and sounds of the past seven days. A deadly terror attack strikes new york city. At the annual halloween parade, new yorkers came out in force. I refuse to live in fear, absolutely not. In colorado, a deadly shooting at a walmart 10 miles north of denver. Republicans are vowing to keep this mornings deadline to release their tax reform plan. The c. I. A. Released a collection of videos and other materials recovered during a raid to capture osama bin laden. Kevin spacey apologized following allegations he made sexual advances on a 14yearold boy. Big tech taking a stand on capitol hill and russias meddling in the election. Rose new revelation in addition the russia investigation. Weve been saying from day one theres been no evidence of trumprussia collusion, and nothing in the indictment today changes that at all. President trump is striking out at the former Campaign Adviser who pled guilty about his efforts to contact russian interests. Paul manafort has been indicted. Now theres talk that manafort really didnt get it. When the f. B. I. Showed up at his door he handed out candy and was like, who are you supposed to be . I want candy kids had a chance to trick or treat at the white house im a big boy now they call it fun size. But look at this when youre my size, this isnt fun. This series too good to end in six. That could do it. The Houston Astros are world champions we begin tonight with politics. The special counsels investigation of russias role in the last u. S. President ial election inched closer tots former Trump Campaign. Money laundering and conspiracy indictments were handed down for former Trump Campaign chairman Paul Manafort and richard gates. Both plet not guilty. But the bigger news may be a former Campaign Adviser, george papadopoulos, pled guilty to lying to the foish about his efforts to establish a relationship with the russians. With me is nick confessore. Hes a political Investigative Reporter for the new york times. Welcome, nick. Good to be here. Lets do the timeline for people. Manafort joins the campaign to help wrangle delegates at one point. Thats in march. In june he takes over as campaign chairman. By august hes out. Correct. All this has to do with the campaign but his indictment has to do with his work in the ukraine. Why is that relevant . Whats important here is years and year before he joined the Trump Campaign, Paul Manafort was working abroad at the intersection of business and politics. He would export americanstyle Campaign Consulting to places like the ukraine, and then do business with oligarchs in the ukraine and in russia. He had these business ties, and where it connects as he was coming on to the Trump Campaign, he was still in contact with some of those oligarchs and some of his russian contacts. And it appears he owed a lot of debt or had Financial Relationships outstanding with some of these people in Eastern Europe and in russia. And that is the crux of why there might be more here for the counsel. But the reason hes in trouble right now is because as he was working for the ukraine, he was lying about working for the ukraine. Under u. S. Law, if youre work for a foreign power, you have to register in washington and provide detailed disclosures. He did not do that. He claimed he was working for some center in london, and it turns out, in fact, he was running the whole lobbying campaign for ukrainian political party. This indictment was crby detailed. We found out about Bank Accounts. We found out he spent 850,000 on clothing in four years. That kind of detail, who is is that giving pause to in the administration right now . Thats a great question. Look. I think if you are on the inside in the white house right now, this is a terrifying time. Bob mueller has access to tax returns Bank Accounts from cyrus that Paul Manafort had access to. If as we know the trump family has business connections in russia which was trying to do deals with them, with selling apartments to wealthy russians and if people like Michael Cohen were doing a lot of business with people with money in eastern youre of europe, its easy to understand mueller will have access to all of that money flow. He probably will be able to see it and track and it. And if theres anything that suggests a running financial relationship between trump and his world and some of these interests, its going to show up. How wide a berth does miller have . Technically, its not that wide. But he is allowed to investigate crimes he discovers in the course of investigation. Soy he was not appointed to inquire whether Paul Manafort was working for the ukraine and hadnt registered. But he did find that out about and now there is a prosecution and a file set for next year. Some of the social media ads bought and paid for by russia during the last election were on dispay on capitol hill this week and they were shocking. Representativees of tech giants facebook, twitter, and google, all testified before house and Senate Committees about russias attempt to influence the 2016 campaign and what should be done to prevent it from happening again. Alexandra suich bass joins me now from san francisco, where she covers the Tech Industry for the economist. Alexandra, what were the main questions the senators wanted answered during this testimony . The senators are really interested in the extent of the russian campaign. And theyre trying to get their heads around it. Initially the tech giants were really evasive and underplayed the threats russians had manipulated americans in the leadup to the 2016 election. They found there were fake accounts bought and ads directed at americans that were seen before which might have influenced their vote and they were pressing the tech giants for details and how widespread the information went. And what the tech giants were going to do to make sure nothing like this happens again, particularly in the 2018 election. Do the tech giants offer details. The tech giants showed us some of the ads and Bank Accounts for the first times. There were fascinating ones, for example, Hillary Clinton dressed up as the and said if you want jesus to win, like this ad. If you liked it or were engaged with the ad. Huge percentage of americans were exposed to this content on facebook and instagram. We were able to hear the except of the russian messaging and be some of the specific messages which i think were surprising in their directness. Its sort of interesting in washington, the hearing, the tech giants and the senators seem to be talking past one another because the tech information kept saying, but were a platform. Its sort of the i dont recall of the Tech Industry. Explain why they want to stay with that were just a platform saying. Right. Its kind of similar to the n. R. A. That says, guns dont kill people. Other people kill people. They basically dont want to have any responsibility for whats for how their tools are being used, the internet giants in this case. They are very wary, and something that the senators didnt get at is to ask for a complete audit of all ads. Facebook and twitter and google offer really sophisticated tracking tools when it comes to marketers anmarketers and advero Companies Like cocacola or unilever, for example. But in this case theyre deflecting their ability and downplaying their ability to really do a full audit. Lets look at the optics of what we saw. We did not see familiar faces sitting behind that table. In fact, one editor at the columbia journalism review tweeted, tech c. E. O. S will show up for tech magazine covers, davos, burning man, game of throne viewing paertses, just not senate hearings. We did not see zuckerberg or jack dorse. What was that about . Well, it was actually even more pointed. So not only did they not show up, but Mark Zuckerberg was at facebooks headquarters in Silicon Valley on an Earnings Call announcing profits and revenue and seeing facebook share price surge. So it was a day of dissident reality, if you will. I think if youre looking at the tech giants interest, which is to not submit your c. E. O. To very hostile questions and give journalists the ability to talk about Mark Zuckerbergs or jack dorseys humbling in front of the senators, they made the right choice in sending their general counsels there. But i continue disappointed the senators. And i wouldnt say that its out of the question that there will be another hearing where the bosses, the tech bosses might be forced to show if we get more investigations and disclosures into the extent of the interference. We might have a second act. The 2016 campaign isnt the first time america has been captivated by fake news. Writer Curt Anderson is the host of the peabody awardwinning Radio Program studio 360. His latest book is called fantasy land how america went haywire, a 500year history. We began, importantly, as a protestant country that is to say, the english people came here and made america what it is known today. They other than were the most fervent, fanatical faction of a fervent fanatical faction of the fervent fanatical faction of puritans. That was the first bit of d. N. A. That went through a lot of twists and turns over the last several hundred years to get to where we are today. Rose before were there, we get to the 60s. We do get to the 60, yeah. We do get to the 60s. We also had various new religions that grew up here as nowhere else. We had show business that grew up here as it did nowhere else, and blurred the various distinctions between real and the fictional. Rose you call it the fantasy Industrial Complex. Which was not just p. T. Barnum claiming he had mermaids on display and George Washingtons 161yearold nanny on display, and all these untrue things that people ate up because they were excitingly untrue. So that was part of it. But religion, too, from the very getgo in america, as nowhere else, of often, at its most successful, a kind of show business. Evangelists back in the 1700s, and 1800s, way before we had teleevangelicals, were doing performances, rather than simply reading serm pons and that is the fantasy Industrial Complex that absorbs everything absorbed politics as well as real estate. Rose and american exceptionalism played a role. American exceptionalism is a real thing. America was the first country created from scratch, authored like a novel or a play is authored by these people all along, for better or for worse, who believed themselves to be heros in this great. And this big land where individualism in its most extreme form ever was part was what we were and what we pursued. And all of that worked great, in my view, and as i write, for all of the extent ricks and the extremes. It worked because, censusly, the gronups were in charge, because we had a set of establishments political establishments, a bunch of religious establishments, media establishments that kept, you know, kept a lid on the craziness. Rose and after the war, world war ii, we were the dominant everything in the world. Exactly. Rose the most powerful economy. The most penetrating culture. Right. And then we got to the 60s, not in part because of this great prosperity, it allowed everybody to, like, wow, lets carry this to the max. Lets take our liberty and everybodys entitled to their own version of reality, to the max. Iron maiden for more than 40 years Bruce Dickinson has been its lead singer. He is out with a memoir of sorts whats this button do . I dont do things im not passionate about. Obviously, passion sometimes varies. You think, i really dont want to get out of bed this morning, but thats just being a normal human being. What does this book do . My father always told me, have a go at everything when youre a kid. You never know what is going to stick. And then the other thing they got from him was finish what you start. So when ive started on things that i feel really passionate about like flying little airplanes i never had any idea. It wasnt an end game, that i was going to be the captain of a 747. If you had asked me, i would have gone, no, thats never going to happen. And the same thing when i started singing. I had no end game that i was going to be in, you know, one of the biggest rock n roll bands in the world 859. Thats like, what, are you kidding me . Thats not credible. But just one thing happens after another, anduddenly, you end up on lifes biggest roller coaster. Rose whats your definition of heavy metal in . I havent got one. Ive given up. Theres no point in even trying to define it. Rose yeah. Metal came out of something that was called heavy rock. Heavy rock was simply an offshoot of blues rock, you know, led zeppelin and deep purple and things like that and free and all those bands. They werent heavy metal, but they kind of came into heavy metal orbit. And then the whole world of music became polarized. It became very nearby. But w niesh. We managed to thre that system. People called us heavy moatal and we say we are. Rose how have you been able to survive and prevail . We do what we say. We do it with integrity. We do a lot of touring and we i hope do really good shows. And we engage as much as possible with our audience. Audience. And its a global band. So our niche has grown. I like to say our fans are like plywood we grow a new laminate of them every generation and they stick to each other. People underestimate what the band means to people. People come up to me and say, this band changed my life. Or this band changed my life, or things like that, and really deep, extraordinary experiences people have had listening to the band. And its difficult to explain that to people to people who think they only have those kinds of experiences listening to u2. We do have that effect on people, and its amazing. Chef Jeremiah Towers pierce considered him to be pioneer of modern american cuisine. But after winning claims, he largely withdrew from the scene. Another celebrity chef thinks towers legacy has been overlooked. Anthony bourdains new documentary is, Jeremiah Tower the last magnificent. It was initially i felt, jeremiah, this great chef and innovator and ayerst, who changed the entire industry, the way we eat in america now, that he hadnt been adequately credited for his accomplishments, just made me angry. Rose is that because he did not get all the credit he deserved for chapanese . Yes, that was true. But he wasnt around. Suddenly he wasnt around anymore history is written by the victors. It was easy for lazy journalists to have access to the people who were still around, and it was not so easy to hes on the beach in mexico. Yeah. So he was knowingly written o. Rose knowingly written out. Yes, people knew better. Then mexico. Then i came to new york and did a couple of cookbooks and some pbs shows. And then 9 11, i decided to i probably should live you know, there had already been the earthquake and then terrorists and so i thought i better, you know, go someplace where there are no hurricanes or earthquakes or terrorists. So i went to mexico, to the beach. Rose and stayed for . Oh, a long time. On and off, on and off. You know, part of it was i thought to myself, you know, at one point Time Magazine said i had more publicity than meryl streep i mean air, complete exaggeration. But when you look at it like that, i thought whats the next act . I didnt want to stick around. I wasnt i didnt want to be a lone, i wanted to be left alone. Rose you wanted to be left alone. You had enough of that for a moment. For the moment, yeah. I would say 350 people a day for 25, 30 years. And my mouth was stuck in a frozen smile. Rose but in your own way, in your own words, what did you do . What did you create, beyond the cuisine, was much more. Yes, it was the lifestyle you can have at a restaurant. I saw once when i walked into about a restaurant in paris there were two models, and they were eating, when i walked by, they were eating crabs out of the claws with their red, enamel long fingernails sucking on their fingernails and the crab and i thought, i want a restaurant just like that. In 2016, director Taika Waititi spent around 2. 5 million to make the film hunt for the wilder people. Went on to become the highest grossing film in the history of new zealand. His new film had a slightly bigger budget, roughly 180 million. It is marvel pictures thor ragnarok. This thing has got its fun and, you know, audiences everywhere are just smiling when they leave the cinema, which is something i dont think i see that often any more, people coming out of the cinema smiling. Rose you give them an escape. An escape, an escape, and personally i feel like we need a bit of escapism at the moment, and im happy to provide it. Rose whats the genius, do you think, of all these marvel comic characters . Is it just that . These are people who are so larger than life and they take you to another world, and, therefore, you escape from whatever it is that might be troubling you . Yeah, but, also, i think that theyre very relatable. You know they have to have human characteristics. They have to, they have to. Thor is essentially, hes a rich kid from outer space who just wants to be loved. Rose dont we all . Were all rich kids who wanted to be loved. And the hulk has bipolar disorder, cant control. I love the you be, the theme of hope. You know, its an ageold idea of wrestling with two beings there is really if we look at every character, they probably dress ridiculously but, you know, there is something relatable. Rose what do you call these films, other than blockbusters . Toy commercials. Rose yeah, toy commercials. No, really what i love is actually its a great and are is it really fun. Weve basically, like, you know, weve taken all the crayons and, you know, let out every color imaginable in this film. Rose and with 180 million, you can pretty much say, if we need this, we do this. Yeah, and i think even when you say that, sometimes its not enough. Rose not enough . No. I dont think you ever have enough money on any of these films, whether its 3million, 200. Rose if you had not 180 but 380 million, it would have been a better film. Maybe not. Maybe too much money spoils it. Rose that would be the alternative idea. The thing is when you ask most directors it, doesnt really matter the budget. The thing that you are always struggling for and that you always want is more time. Theres never enough time to shoot these films. Rose where is the great joy for you . Shooting. Rose is it shooting . More shooting than anything. I dont enjoy editing. Rose is that right . Youre stuck in a dark room with one person, much like this, and engine you and i in one dark room for a year and no one else. Rose but you have all the power. You sit there and you choose. You sit there and you choose cut here. Change this. Do this. Yeah, put this song in. Rose put this song in. I really love being on set because i love interacting with a group. I like having a family feel on my sets, and i like i like the i love the creating, like, a village. And being the master of that village. Rose there gu. Power. Its complex. Its not enough just to control one person in a dark room. I like to control many people. laughter many environments, charlie. Heres whats new for your weekend the fantasy action adventure thor ragnarok is out in theaters. Hulk like raging fire. Like smoldering fire. The iphone x is available in stores this weekend. And sam smith has a new album up the thrill of it all. And heres a look at the week ahead. Sunday is the running of the new york city marathon. Monday is the 55th annual Country Music aawards in nashville. Tuesday is the day voters go to polls to elect governors in new jersey. Wednesday is the first day of the world food championships in orange beach, alabama. Thursday is the 50th anniversary of Rolling Stone magazine. Friday is Opening Night in new york for radio citys christmas spectacular, starring the rockettes. Saturday is veterans day. Thats charlie rose the week for this week. On behalf of all of us here, thanks for watching. Im allison stuart. Charlie will be back here next time. Steves music in viennas parks enjoys a long tradition. A century ago, Johann Strauss was the toast of viennas high society. It was here, in viennas city park, in the kursalon, where the waltz king himself directed wildly popular concerts in the late 1800s. And the tradition continues to the delight of music lovers from around the world. [ the blue danube plays ] stewart welcome to the program. Charlie rose is on assignment. Im alison stewart. We begin tonight with more on russias attempts to influence the 2016 campaign. Bob mueller knows a whole lot that we in the media and the public dont know. He knows a lot. There was material you know, im very familiar with Paul Manaforts business, his work in the ukraine. There was material in the indictment that i had never seen before, i had suspected. It was fascinating. You can get, when youre a prosecutor like him, when you can get cypress to hand over banking records, you can get behind the veil, and manafort really had cast a veil over his activities and was lying about them. The papadopoulos part, it just shows you there are not many leaks coming out of, you know, out of muellers operation. I think a lot of the leaks are

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