Election officials. Isnt this damaging, over all, to our democracy . Senator every election has some irregularities. Weve had some in pennsylvania in the past, and weve had some in pennsylvania this time. They should be adjudicated. If people have seen, if there is evidence of fraud or wrongdoing, by all means, go into a federal court, get it corrected, punish the wrong doers and do what we need to do. Apparently there are going to be a lot of lawsuits tomorrow. Well see the evidence and see what the allegations are. I have confidence in our federal judiciary to make the right decisions about them, and then well be able to wrap this up and move on. Brennan to be clear, you have seen none of the evidence that the lawyers say they have about your state . Senator to be clear, for instance, there are some problems that need to be solved. For instance, in pennsylvania, unfortunately, we have a rogue state Supreme Court that violated the u. S. Constitution and violated pennsylvania law by declaring that ballots arriving at the election day can be counted, even though our statue forbidden that. Those ballots brennan those ballots have been segregated. Senator then okay. So i think the number is probably not big enough to determine the outcome of the election. But observe jers in observers in philadelphia have not been able to get close enough to understand how that segregation has occurred. As i say, i dont think it will be nearly a large enough scale to change the outcome of the election, but it is understandable that people would want that corrected. And we should, for a variety of reasons, not the least of which is future elections. Brennan broadly, i want to know what you think the message from this election was, that the Republican Party has remade itself as the party of trump. Do you believe that is still the mandate . I will tell you unambiguously this was a rejection of the radicalism that has increasingly been the driving force in the democratic party. The woke left had a major setback. Nobody thought we would pick up seats in the house, nobody thought we are going to hold the senate, which i think is likely. We didnt lose a single Legislature Body across the country brennan but the president also didnt take your state . Senator thats right. There is no question that personality traits and character traits of the president rubbed a lot of people the wrong way. And that was probably problematic for the president. But, you know, the outcomes this administration has been remarkably successful with economic outcomes, with foreign policy. So i think the policies have been accepted. And the broad republican victories down ballots suggest that. Brennan all right. Senator toomey, thank you we want to take a closer look at some of the legal questions the president s team is raising with cbs news contributor and election law expert david becker. Good morning to you. Good morning, margaret. Brennan you just heard the senators description of what is going on in his state. What is your reaction . Right now president elect joe biden leads by the margin, and the margin is likely to grow. It is around 41,000 and it is likely to grow. So it is very unlikely there will be an automatic recount in pennsylvania. He is also right that the election over all was very good for republicans. They did very well nationwide. They held the senate and did very well in state legislative races. So any baseless accusations that the i think in pennsylvania there are some claims regarding observers that are false. We know that observers for the Trump Campaign and the Republican Party were present in the counting rooms at all times. They could see everything that was going on brennan there is actually a live camera. There are 24 7 live stream. There is extensive evidence of this. And as you noted, the ballots that arrived after election day have not been counted yet, not been reported. All of the ballots were seeing right now, the vote counts in pennsylvania, they all reflect ballots that were received on election day or earlier. So those small number of ballots, perhaps 8500 of them, that have been segregated, they have not been counted or reported out yet. If youre behind, as President Trump is right now in pennsylvania, it is unusual that youre not asking for those ballots to be counted because you might need more ballots to narrow the margin. Brennan can you help us make sense of what the trump strategy may be here . Our reporter, nicole, spoke to some members of the trump team and the strategy was described to her as planning to win the georgia recount and point out irregularities in wisconsin. It still doesnt get you 270 electoral votes. It is very hard to determine a coherent strategy here. In arizona, you see them arguing to count more votes, in pennsylvania theyre saying stop the counter. In wisconsin, the margin of victory for president elect biden is about the same at President Trumps manager in 2016. It is very, very unusual, and there is no precedent in American History for thousands of votes to be overturned in a statewide race. Brennan am i hearing you say this is more of a p. R. Strategy than a legal one . Thats what it appears to be. If you look at florida 2000, three members of the team on the republican side are sitting on the Supreme Court. And they went dont and down and collected facts for weeks. What were seeing now is crazy allegations being thrown out on twitter and elsewhere. When it goes to court, they fall apart. There is nothing there. Thyve been losing every case that has been brought postelection, the Trump Campaign has. It appears it might be more of a p. R. Stunt than an actual cohesive legal theory. Brennan to be fair to those, because there are some big names involved in this, senator lindsey graham, says he has a sworn af daif affidavit fm a postal worker in pennsylvania, and Rudy Giuliani also claims he has affidavits. Can people just lie and get away with it, or is this actual evidence that needs to be considered. This is why we actually go to court and require proof. And every time they have brought this proof to court, that proof has fallen apart and failed brennan youre talking about a Landscaping Company because thats where the Philadelphia Press was held yesterday thats right. You can say whatever you want on twitter or at a press conference, but ultimately you have to prove these allegations in court, and ultimately allegations have failed. Brennan are any of these significant . Theyre also raising money, they say, for a recount in wisconsin . I think the recount strategy is likely to fail because the margins are just too great. The margin is growing in georgia. It is over 10,000 now. The other litigation really doesnt have a strategy. Whether it is the sharpie pens in arizona or observe jers iobservers in pennsylvania, were not seeing much there. So i think it is unlikely. Brennan one thing i didnt get to with the senator is this really troubling incident in pennsylvania. There were heavily armed men arrested outside. You know a lot of these election workers. How concerned are they for their safest . Theyre very concern. These are people who have been away from their families for days. One of them his son had a birthday and he had to miss it. They are getting death threats. And then we hear about this threat on their lives. It is shameful. These are Public Servants who are not wellpaid at all, and they dont get a lot of recognition. Theyre really heros of democracy right now. Brennan and theyre working amid a pandemic. 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Youre slouching again, ted. Expired, expired. Expired. Thanks, aunt bonnie. Its a lot of house. I hope you can keep it clean. At least geico makes bundling our home and Car Insurance easy. Which helps us save a lot of money oh, teddy. Did you get my friend request . Uh, ill have to check. doorbell ringing aunt jonis here for bundling made easy, go to geico. Com. Hello . Brennan the election may be over, but this new surge of coronavirus cases is just now beginning to take off. We want to check in with former f. D. A. Commissioner dr. Scott gottlieb. Good morning. Doctor good morning. Brennan the president elect says his First Priority is dealing with this pandemic. Some of the names released by his Campaign Includes a former Surgeon General from the obama years. Realistically, what can a group like this do now, since they dont take office until the end of january . Doctor well, i think the first thing they want to do is come in with a very clear plan. The president elect has articulated what he would do. There is not a lot of novelty to this. We know what works and what we need to do. They want to plan on how theyre going to hit the ground running. The other thing they could be doing is working directly with the National Governors association. We have one president at a time, theyre not in the position to govern. But they can work with the governors to formulate policy through the governors with the governors and try to create a more nationally strategy. Because if youre not going to have a federallyled strategy, you want to at least coordinate along the different states so it is a more cohesive plan. Brennan it sounds a pretty grim assessment of what you think the Trump Administration will do between now and january to get ahold of the virus. Doctor im not sure what theyre going to do. My advice would be to get more aggressive. Weve been sort of arguing politically over what i think is a false dichotomy, a choice between lockdowns and no lockdowns. And thats not the case. We dont need to shut down the country and tell people we need to stay at home to get some measure of control over this virus. It is a contagious virus that is going to spread. But it doesnt need to spread at the levels and the velocity that will depress the health care system. Were seeing that in wisconsin, building field hospitals, utah is building field hospitals. Now 56,000 people are hospitalized. 11,000 are in the i. C. U. These are very big numbers nationally, and it is accelerating very quickly. Brennan the president elect said he wants to quickly appoint a supply commander to oversee testing, and eventually a vaccine, and materials and masks and gowns. You said a lot of these wheels will be in motion by the time he takes office. Are these realistic expectations for him to be setting . Andre doctor i think you need to do it anyway. At the time the president elect takes office, well probably be at the any pecks o apex. The only question will be how many people have died in the course of this, and how many people have been infected. We have to keep those numbers down as much as possible. There is still a lot you can do, making sure you have adequate supplies of drugs, and eventually vaccines, and the testing equipment and the supply chain. Because this isnt going to be over in 2021, i think it will be better, but you still want to make sure you have adequate supplies when you head into the fall of 2021, when were going to face risks again. And the supply chain can be affected in the near term. Things like durable medical equipment, testing supplies, gloves, gowns, masks. Brennan there have been a lot of celebratory gatherings in the last 24 hours, mostly with masks, but not all. I wonder whether you think in january well be able to have an inauguration with the usual celebrations . Doctor i dont think we will. I dont think well be able to bring large crowds together for an inauguration. Well be right in the thick of probably the worst point of this epidemic wave were going through. And the Biden Campaign and team have shown theyre willing to forgo the usual trappings of running for office. I suspect theyll take a similar approach to how theyll handle the inauguration. Well not be able to bring together tens of thousands or hundreds of thousands of people for a typical inauguration. Brennan weve learned that the president s chiefofstaff, mark meadows, is now covid positive. He was at the white house gathering just this week when the president addressed the nation on election night. He had access to testing, regular testing. So i just wonder what the message is for Everyday Americans who are thinking about celebrating thanksgiving, and maybe think if they get a test beforehand theyre adequately protecting their families. Are they . Doctor no, theyre not. I mean, the test can help. I think it is prudent to try to get tested if youre going to bring together a group of people. But if you have individuals who are vulnerable in that setting, you need to be very careful if youre going to be exposing younger people to older individuals who are vulnerable. If you do do that, make sure theyre wearing highquality masks, n95, and try to keep people separated and distanced where you can. You need to take a layered approach. Testing alone cant create a safe environment. Even the nhl and nba werent able to use testing alone. Brennan dr. Gottlieb, great to talk to you. Well be back in a momentch i got it all from you im always pushing through i know well make it to the finish line i know youre waiting on the other side im like you ondemand glucose monitoring. Because theyre always on. Another lifechanging technology from abbott. So you dont wait for life. You live it. Brennan around the world, there has been some surprising and some not so surprising reaction from World Leaders about the new american president. Cbs news Foreign Correspondent Holly Williams reports from moscow. Reporter good morning. Russia state media has portrayed this u. S. Election as chaotic and its democracy as flawed. But even inside the kremlin, they may be looking forward to a more predictable american president. America has made its choice, and its choice is a man who rarely leaves his basement, who often doesnt know where he is. Reporter thats arti, often referred to as a russian propaganda outlet. U. S. Intelligence concluded that russia inerfered in the 2016 election, and u. S. Officials warned it was doing the same this year, seeking to denigrate joe biden. But political analyst maria littman believes that russia is disappointed in the Trump Administration, and may welcome a more conventional president. He will be more a kind of man of the establishment, not erratic. And this in itself is an advantage. Reporter there were no warm congratulations from iran. Iran has called for the next administration to return to its obligation. Reporter he hoped the u. S. Would return to the nuclear deal, which joe biden has pledged to do. Chinas state media has also reveled in americas election turmoil, but its leaders hope that joe biden will resolve the trade war started by President Trump. I look very much towards working with President Biden and his team in a lot of crucial stuff in the weeks and months ahead. Reporter and the mayor of paris tweeted simply welcome back, america. Many of americas allies want to return to u. S. Leadership, whether it is supporting the World Health Organization or rejoining the Paris Agreement on climate change. Margaret . Brennan Holly William in moscow. Thank you. And we turn now to the one and only bob schieffer. We have to give you the final word. It is good to see you and to see you here in person. Thank you very much. And im honored to be with you. Brennan youre always so good at putting things into perspective. How do you sum up this week . We still live in a very divided, deeply divided, country. And i dont think there is any question of that. Biden won this election fair and square, as far as we know. I think there is no suggestion of any kind of fraud or anything like that. But i think that will take care of itself. Ihave the investigations, but i dont think much will come of that. Here is the thing, it is as if President Trump were elected not of the united states, but of two different countries, two very different countries. And i think the democrats have to treat the losing side with the utmost respect and dignity because theyre going to be there. And joe biden is going to need their help as well as the help of democrats to do what needs to be done in this country. It is a huge victory for democrats, but it is not the shellacking of trumpism that democrats were hoping for. 71 Million People voted for donald trump. Thats a huge number of people out there. And theyre not going away. The other part is, i dont think donald trump is going away. I think he is going to leave the white house, but he is still going to be around. I dont know doing what, but i just dont see him leaving after getting 70 million votes. Brennan with really ard danant supporters, too. The president elect has made the right moves in terms of rhetoric. He said last night, i know what it is like to lose and how hard it is. But how do you actually unite a country where the divisions go so deep . I think you do what joe biden has been doing. I think he has been doing pretty much the right thing. He reached out and said, i want to be the president of all of the people, not just the president of the democrats. And i think it is important for him to tone down this rhetoric. I mean, not talking about enemies but talking about opponents, talking about how people can have two different points of view. I think what the president elect and maybe he has already done this my guess is he probably has. I think the first thing he needs to do is call Mitch Mcconnell. He knows him. They have been friends for 30 years. I know that Mitch Mcconnell thinks highly of joe biden. Now, im not saying call him and run out and tell everybody on television, i just called Mitch Mcconnell. Keep it betwn themselves. There has got to be things that are good for both joe biden and for Mitch Mcconnell. And if there are, then thats good for the country. And i think thats the place to start. How could either of them be hurt by later holding a News Conference and saying, we just want everybody to know were talking. Brennan i love that that is the new benchmark for success, hey, at least they talked. But what do you think because the list is so long what do you think is the most difficult challenge for the new president . I just getting people he has to get people in his own party together. And theyve got to decide on what the priorities are. There is no question that covid has to come first, but he also has to deal with this economy. And among other things, why couldnt e com he come up with the two of them, come up with some sort of public works plan, where people who cant work in restaurants, because it is so dangerous, could work outside in public works projects . I keep hearing things like that that can be done and are possible. Brennan there are 11 Million People looking for jobs that just havent come back. Bob, thank you. So good to see you. Well be right back. You can feel confident fidelity, that the only direction youre moving is forward. To Severe Plaque Psoriasis uncover clearer skin that can last. 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