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Rally could become a super spreader event. My guest this morning acting Homeland Security secretary chad wolf and Infectious Disease specialist dr. Osterholm. John boltons revenge, he describes President Trump is ignorant, obsessed with his reelection and mocked by his cabinet. I dont think hes fit for office and i dont think thee has the competence to do the job. Ill talk to the top democrat on the House Intelligence Committee adam schiff. Also, President Trump fires a top federal prosecutor who has investigated several of the president s close allies. Whats the real story behind the firing . Joining me for insight and analysis are nbc news correspondent carol lee, republican strategist al carden as and yamiche alcindor. Welcome to sunday. Its meet the press qwe. From nbc news in washington, the longest running show in television history. This is meet the press with chuck todd. Good sunday morning and a happy fathers day to all of the dads out there. President ial politics, presentations and a partisan pandemic all came together last night in tulsa, oklahoma. President trump has refused to wear a mask and his supporters have followed suit dismissing mask wearing as some liberal virtue signalling and somehow is nothing more than signaling opposition to the president. Last night a president frustrated by a virus that has kept him off the campaign trail finally gets to do what he loves best about his job, thrill an adoring crowd of loyal supporters though the crowd was much smaller than anticipated and plans for an overflow area were scrapped. He did it in a tulsa arena with mostly nonmask wearing partisans, this as experts fear the indoor rally could be a super spreader event. This, as the United States, oklahoma and tulsa, specifically are all seeing spikes in covid19 cases. This as were still experiencing a 9 11like loss of life every four to five days. The rally came at the end of a rough week for the president , sinking poll be in, the john bolton book and two Supreme Court decisions that didnt go his way all on top of swiftly changing Public Attitudes that put mr. Trump on the wrong side of the culture wars that hes always leveraged in the past to his advantage. I saved hundreds of thousands of lives. We dont ever get even a mention. President trump at his First Campaign rally since the pandemic began. When you do testing to that extent youre going to find more people. Youre going to find more cases, so i said to my people, slow the testing down, please. With 26 states recording a 20 spike in new coronavirus cases over the last two weeks, oklahoma among them, the president went maskless, mocking covid19 with racist language. I can name kung flu. Insisting on the rally despite warnings from his over Coronavirus Task force. I would get a chance i would get that virus, but im not going to get that virus. President trump spent nearly two hours on the attack. The unhinged leftwing mob is trying to vandalize our history, desecrate our monuments, our beautiful monuments. And plame protesters and the media for the smaller than expected crowd. The president is facing a handful of new polls that show him trailing joe biden substantially including a fox news poll where hes down by 12 points and the rally caps a week where the president suffered a series of setbacks. The rollout of former National Security adviser john boltons new book. I dont think hes fit for office. I dont think he has the competence to carry out the job. There is no guiding principle that i was able to discern other than whats good for Donald Trumps reelection. The president called the bolton book a compilation of lies and madeup stories and then insisted it is full of classified information. He should go to jail for that for many, many years. Mr. Bolton is the fourth former official to question the president s fitness for office. The president has called bolton a wacko, jump mattis overrated and john kelly way over his head. Why do you keep hiring people that you believe are wackos and liars. Twin defeats on the Supreme Court on daca and protecting lgbtq employees from being fired because of their sexual orientation. Mr. Trump tweeted on thursday, do you get the impression that the Supreme Court doesnt like me. Its almost like were a minority court. And the latenight friday firing of the u. S. Attorney for the Southern District of new york. Jeffrey berman was investigating a number of the president s associates. Thats all up to the attorney general. Attorney general barr is working on that. Thats his department, not my department. Im going to talk to acting Homeland Security chad wolf and Michael Osterholm in just a moment and i want to bring in nbc justice correspondent Pete Williams to talk about the Trump Administration dramafilled firing of the top prosecutor for the Southern District of new york. So, pete, walk us through the last 48 hours where first he was i guess getting promoted to a new job and justice. It was supposedly a resignation and then he wouldnt go and then he was willing to go. How did we get to where we are today . Our understanding is jay clayton, the sec chairman raised his hand and said i want that job. He played golf with the president a couple of weekends ago, and barr knew him and so they said, fine. According to the people weve talked to barr then said to berman, hey, we want to move this guy in, would you like to be sec chairman or the head of the Civil Rights Division at justice and berman said no. So friday night out of nowhere barr announced that the president would be nominating jay clayton for the onand berman would be stepping down and berman shot back no, im want going anywhere, and i was appointed by the court and i will stay until the Senate Confirms the replacement and by saturday the president actually said yourity on. So, pete, obviously when you look at this over the last four months the president seems to have gotten rid of inspectors general and folks investigating things and there are folks on capitol hill who look at this berman firing and wonder if its about the Rudy Giuliani investigation or things like that, that it fits a pattern. Any evidence that suggests that is part of this larger pattern . No evidence, chuck. Its the appearance that has concerned democrats so especially because it was bermans office that handle the prosecution of michael cohen, the president s former lawyer although berman was recused from that case and is now investigating Rudy Giulianis practices and has prosecuted to giulianis former associates, but several people in the office have told us that they know of no imminent case. They dont think this was intended to derail anything, and it may, at the end of the day simply be that the president and the attorney general wanted somebody that they liked better and knew better in that job. Still, its a bit odd for someone to say id like to take a position that somebody else already has and at the end of the day who knows whether this is going to work because the republican and chairman of the committee Lindsay Graham has signaled that he wont go ahead with the nomination unless new yorks two senators approve of it and they both say they dont. Pete williams, really appreciate you trying to make some sense out of what was a chaotic 48 hours for what is also known as the sovereign district of new york. Pete, thanks very much. You bet. And joining me now is the acting secretary of Homeland Security chad wolf. Secretary wolf, welcome to meet the press and a happy fathers day sir. Great. Thank you. Want to start big picture here. Here we are in june and theres been over 8 million confirmed cases of the virus around the globe and the United States accounts for just over 25 of all confirmed cases leading the globe, unfortunately, in that statistic. How did we find ourselves in that precarious situation . Well, i think what we saw early on in january and february is a virus that came to the u. S. We saw china not being very clear, not being up front about what they were seeing early on. We took a number of dramatic step, the president did in limiting the spread and the seeding in the u. S. What we have seen is a white house Coronavirus Task force working day and night to make sure we have the resources, the testing and the ppe and the state and local to governors to make sure we can open up this economy in a safe and reasonable way. Were seeing a number of states throughout the country in different phases, from phase one to phase three trying to get this economy and trying to get the country back up and running and were doing a great job at that. I why do you if this is what is considered a good job at this point. I say this other countries and europe have been able to flatten their curves and we have not. If anything, were on the rise, and i know were doing more testing, but i want to show you these statistics right now, very troubling in the south. Three states to show you, yes, testing is up 30 to 40 , but the positive case percentage is up in florida, 88 . In texas, 77 . Oklahoma, 94 were in the midst of a spike, is there anything we could be doing now to basically bend this curve that were not doing . Well, again, the Coronavirus Task force has put out that guidance, has put out cdc has put out a number of things that states can continue to do in their various phases and were seeing that from social distancing to the face coverings and everything in between. I think it is important when you talk about testing weve tested over 25 million folks and we tested more than any other country and were logically going to see a number of cases positive over what we see in other countries. Its important to keep that in mind, but again, were supporting and this is a stateled reopening. Were supporting that through our medical professionals at hhs and cdc making sure our state and local officials have all of the resources and the knowledge they need to open up in a safe manner. It looks as if, though, that what you guys have put out, the guidelines that youve put out and the guidelines that cdc has put out, even the president and his campaign arent following these guidelines holding an indoor is it a surprise that the public is not following the guidelines as they should given that the examples from the top is not wearing a mask and holding an indoor rally with the recommendations of Public Health officials including people on the task force . I think i disagree with the premise of that question. I think when what we saw in tulsa with the president s rally is a state in a phase three reopening and so activities like this are allowed and when you talk about face masks and face coverings and Hand Sanitizer and a Temperature Check in those events and these are all things that are within the guidance that we talk about. It is important and a personal choice that people are making to own face coverings within the phase. It is very specific to individual states and well continue to provide that resource and guidance making sure governors have all of the informations that they need to make those decisions locally. Its been a couple of months since weve had a Coronavirus Task force public press briefing. The lack of constant public reminders of wearing face distat seeing that right now. Any reason . No. Theres no reason. Look, the Coronavirus Task force continues to meet. I know the press would like everyday press conferences, but the guidance is still out there and were Still Holding calls with governors weekly. The Vice President is as part of the lead of that task force, so theres a lot of message and it continues to go on both individually to states and governors and also to the American People. The American People know about the social distancing and they know about the face coverings and will continue to push that message. Are you concerned now that were in an endemic where this virus, well live with it and we wont get the daily case load below 20,000 which weve yet been able to do, do you think . We have a lot of individuals continuing to work hard at therapeutics and vaccines and thats the end goal. We have hhs and their medical professionals and cdc and the nih and others looking for the vaccines and as wend well continue to push that while we continue to do that social distancing and the face coverings and the everyday practices that we encourage all americans to do. I switch is under hhs and has an estimated 24,000 people detained and how are you handling the virus among those detained and are you deporting people who are who test positive or are you waiting for them to test negative before you deport them . As you indicated, i. C. E. Holds a number of individuals waiting for the deportation. Weve taken a number of steps and weve had cdc look at those facilities and adhering to cdc guidelines and in almost all of the facilities weve reduced the intake to 70 so we can social distance in many places. We have voluntarily released 900 individuals that are in vulnerable populations or have Underlying Health conditions and were Court Ordered to release a number of other folks. Were taking a number of measures to make those are as safe as possible. Wer criminals into American Communities and well do that in a safe and reasonable way and on the repatriation side, we are repatriating back to Foreign Countries and making sure that they are not symptomatic as we do that and well continue to do that and were working closely with the Northern Triangles and others as we do that. Youre not intentionally anybody back that tests positive . Of course, not. What we know is this virus is difficult. You can be asymptomatic on one day and you can be symptomatic at the viral loads and were doing everything within the power to make sure the repatriation is safe and secure. Were communicating robustly with the Foreign Government and as we send their nationals back to them. I want to go to daca, those folks brought to this country as children by their parents. The president described the decision as saying, hey, he actua ask the question this way, for someone participating in the daca program how concerned should they be that they might be asked to leefr ave country in the next two years. The program is clearly unlawful and i would point you back to the Supreme Court decision at no point did they say the program was lawful and they simply didnt like the rationale and the procedures that we used and i find that troubling. What we know is the Obama Administration created this program out of thin air and they havent been held to task on why they put this out to Public Comment and notice and it is a large decision and a program and the American People needed to have comment, and what weve seen from this administration is we take a logical approach, and theyve been very clear about that, and so we find ourselveses where were at today. The president s been very clear. We need to find a solution for this population, and well continue to look at that. Well continue to look at the opinion that the court produced this week, making sure that we adhere to that, but we are going to end an unlawful program. As acting secretary of Homeland Security i dont have the luxury to uphold the law, were willing to sit down at the table and negotiate with them. So are you going to solve this administratively and follow sort of what the Supreme Court seemed to lay out about how you need to give more time in all of this,or does that mean the president has ruled out just ending this by executive order and he just chose not to . I think well continue to encourage congress to come to the table and find a solution for the population. The president has been clear about that over three and a half years, but at the same time hes also directed the department of Homeland Security to look at that opinion and look at the rationale and look what the court has asked us to do and thats what were doing today. Im not going to get ahead in front of the president and hell make that decision at the right time, but the department will be ready to make that call. All right. Acting secretary chad wolf of the department of Homeland Security. I appreciate you coming on and sharing the administrations view. Happy fathers day. Thank you. President trumps tulsa rally came one day after the United States recorded the most new cases of covid19 since may 3rd, and at a point when according to Johns Hopkins university the u. S. Is doing a far worse job of controlling this pandemic than the europe eeuropean union. Look at that graph. Joining me is dr. Osterholm. Welcome back to meet the press. Ill begin with the same question i asked secretary wolf, how do you explain that the United States has 25 of the globes cases and were sadly number one with the rocket ship . First of all, good morning and happy fathers day to you, chuck. Happy fathers day to you, sir. Thank you. And at this point we dont really have a National Plan that puts together what were trying to do. We have 50 different states and the territories all kind of with their own plan and youve seen in the past week how disjointed it is and what were trying to do. We are at 25 of the cases than we were at the very height of april. This is what we need to do to get that kind of effort and thats one of our challenges. Is this a failure of testing and tracing. Is that where this failure is or is this just across the board . Well, we have to understand that as ive said to you on multiple occasions, were not driving this tiger, were riding it and while other areas are doing much better around the world and stopping it after a very difficult period of time with it, we havent done that and part of that is the fact that we just have not really, i think, gotten the message across to the public yet that this is a serious issue and we can shut down of the economy and this virus is operating under its own time and under its own rules and we are trying to act like somehow we can impose our will on this virus and thats whats happening. Other countries have been much more aware of the fact that the virus is going do what its going do, and so you have to basically stay locked down. You have to limit transmission in areas that were not doing and thats what i think youre seeing right now is the increases in a number of states and everyone is back to a prepandemic mindset. Basically, without a National Structure here and if we let this be 50 flowers blooming on how to do this, were never going to get control of this curve . Well, we do have to allow for local decisions, meaning that, you know, in some cases it will be different in Rural America than another area. At the same time, what is our goal . To hear that we dont want to do testing is wrong. Obviously, we should be testing as much as possible. Second of all, once we have positive tests what are we doing to make sure additional transmission isnt occurring. Youve heard a number of stories in the past week about some of the failures of contract tracing. We should learn from those. What are we doing to improve upon it. Right now we dont have even at a local level necessarily the kind of plans that this is what were going do to get shut down transmission over this period of time and we need much more clarity that way and it seems random. Why are some areas doing better than others and we have to see those areas in fewer cases and why thats happening. You have said a second wave is inevitable. Every pandemic is one, its coming and this one is no different given that weve not gotten through this first wave. We sort of, as some people have called it more endemic, if you will. Are you concerned the second wave will be even worse than first anticipated . Well, in early april our group put out a document that laid out different scenarios because were dealing with the coronavirus and we dont know if its different from the influenza virus where you see the first wave or very few cases occur and the flareup of a second wave. Im actually of the mind right now, i think this is more like a forest fire. I dont think that this is going to slow down. Im not sure that the influenza analogy applies anymore. I think that wherever theres wood to burn this fire is going to burn and right now we have a lot of susceptible people. I think right now i dont see this slowing into the summer or into the fall. I dont think well see one, two or three waves and i think well see one difficult forest fire of cases. By the way, team sports, is that probably going to not happen considering what weve already seen as they are trying to start up . You know, at this point its going to be a challenge if you have teams that will continue to have outbreaks of cases within their players. At some point well have to have a situation where we wont have all of that transmission, but i think it is going to be very, very difficult at this point to protect players and protect their staff, coaches, to protect the public. I think its not going to be easy to do. Its looking more dire there. Dr. Michael osterholm with grim news Going Forward. Again, a happy fathers day. I know you havent seen your grandchildren. Hopefully that will happen soon. Thank you, sir. Thank you. When we come back, john boltons book and one of Many Democrats who are saying w welcome back. John bolton has pulled off a trick that few others have accomplished in partisan washington, maybe jim comey being the other one. Built bolton has managed to unite republicans and democrats against him. Democrats are angry he didnt say it sooner particularly during the house impeachment hearings. Joining me now is the chairman of the House Intelligence Committee, adam schiff who oversaw the trump impeachment hearings. Congressman schiff, welcome back to meet the press. Happy fathers day. Happy fathers day to you and to my dad. Excellent. Let me start with what we saw over the last 48 hours with the Southern District of new york. Pete williams is reporting that they know of no motivation having to do with some other case, that this was simply the president wanting to do a favor for a golfing buddy who is currently at the sec. Do you accept that explan asian . I cant accept that explan aegsz given the pattern and practice of the president seeking his Justice System to punish enemies and bill barrs willingness to carry that water for the president. Also if you look at bermans statement himself, berman apparently has the same skepticism. Theres a reason why he included that passage in his statement when he was saying im not stepping down that he wanted to ensure that these investigations continued or words along those lines. So berman clearly had a concern about why he was being pushed out and given the firings of these inspector generals and given the way that barr has sought to intervene in cases to help out people like Michael Flynn or roger stone or seek punishment for people like michael cohen, then you really have to question whats really at the basis of this friday night attempted massacre and now completed one. Do you want to see should we expect to see mr. Berman in front of congress in the next week or two . I certainly hope that he will come and testify before congress, and i know chairman nadler intends to investigate this and he should. Its you know, i think the most disastrous management of the Justice Department in modern memory and like so much of what we have seen in this administration, it doesnt come as a surprise anymore, but yet its completely demoralizing to the people in the department and dangerous to the rule of law. Have you read mr. Boltons book yet, congressman schiff . I have not. Ive certainly read the excerpts that have been published in the newspaper thus far, and theres a tremendous amount to be disturbed about the substance of them. You know, i would put frankly, at the top of the list the willingness to change china if only china would help him get reelected and this is a perfect echo of his misconduct with ukraine, but more than that, we warned during the trial that you could only count on donald trump to do whats right for him and not whats right for the country and john bolton says that is exactly this president s pattern and practice that he didnt see a Significant National foreign approximate policy decision made on any other basis than the personal and political reelection interest and thats a tragic and dangerous situation for the whole country when the president has that kind of myopic focus whats right for him and is willing to sacrifice the national interest. Know that you wanted to see mr. Bolton testify. You wanted to see him do it voluntarily. You also on eye remember y re had a conversation before the impeachment and why you didnt want to force it, do you regret that decision now . Should you have fought harder for bolton to testify before you voted on the articles . No. I think, indeed, our decision has been vindicated by the fact that we are still in court now over a year later trying to get mcgahn to testify. Bolton said he would sue us if we subpoenaed him. We would still be trying to get john boltons testimony today, and given that he was trying to cheat in the upcoming election, we couldnt wait another year to get john bolton to testify. More than that, we are trying to ratify what we are hearing from the senators. We made the case when we were urging his testimony in the senate that the senators would one day have to explain why they didnt want to hear from him when they had the opportunity. Those that havent run away from the camera, trump is guilty, the house proved them guilty and they werent prepared to do anything about it and we have the evidence to prove it, we did prove it and nonetheless, what john bolton has demonstrated and i think to the length and degree that he indicts donald trump. He also indicts himself for cowardice and for greed because there were people who did come forward. People like colonel vindman who risked their careers and he lacked that basic courage and patriotism. It was only the agreed that made him come forward in this book, because remember, chuck, what his lawyer was saying at the time was that bolton might damage the presidency or he might violate his own oath and thats why he needed to go to court, but those things have given way to a book deal. There is some damning allegations involving china which he brought up and there are also things in there involving turkey and saudi arabia. These are a lot of things in the purview of the House Intelligence Committee. Do you plan on getting ambassador bolton to testify soon and go under oath with these allegations . We havent had a chance to read the book, as i mentioned, chuck, when we do and we expect we will within the next 24 to 48 hours like the rest of the country. We will look at what allegations like those involving turkey and other countries particularly involving china need to be flushed out and exposed to thele our decisions, but you know, we do need, i think, to expose the length and breadth of this president s depravity and how much it is endangering the country and those facts will need to come out and were discussing with the speaker and my fellow chairs just how to do that. Look, if you dont act now and you sort of wait to act and you wait to see what happens in november is that too late if you believe hes done impeachable acts with the chinese government, can you really wait until after the election to put bolton under oath, to start the process . I dont think we should wait if we conclude that there are important things that he says that need to be exposed to the public. The public needs to know exactly what they have in this president. A lot of it is not a surprise, but at the same time exposure of this president s misconduct is the best way to protect the country. Congress can take steps to protect the country. You know, look, those comments that the president made when only the interpreter and president xi were in the room, blessing the concentration camps of the uighurs. Its exactly why we want to know what he said to putin when hes alone in the room with putin because he is dealing away our National Security. Hes dealing away the values of this country in secret in order to help himself, and thats just so destructive of everything that this country stands for. Congressman adam schiff, ive got to leave it there. The chairman of the house intelligence commity. We well be watching what you do next with bolton. Appreciate you coming. Happy fathers day. You, too. Before we go to break, john bolton will be my guest right here next sunday on meet the press. I hope youio join us for what i hope to be a vo since our beginning, our business has been people. And their financial wellbeing. Its evident in good times, with decisions focused on the longterm. And crucial when circumstances become difficult. That continued emphasis on people our advisors, associates, clients and communities gives us purpose, strength and a way forward. Today. And always. Im an associate here at amazon. Come on christian, step onto the blue line. Good stay safe, man. This device is giving us an accurate Temperature Check. 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Nah isolation you can chock that up to the health, but when you combine it with Everything Else that weve seen with the last couple of weeks for the poll numbers is this a troubling sign with the campaign that they have an enthusiasm issue. Yeah, chuck, theyve really raised expectations for this rally. They were saying they had over a million responses to requests for tickets to the rally and we really wound up yesterday with something very similar to Inauguration Day. The crowd size was the issue. You saw the Campaign Spokesperson put out a statement saying this was a huge audience that watched the president s rally thats very similar to what we heard on the president s Inauguration Day over crowd size. The message was very similar, very doomsday and very much saying if you elected democrats and if you elect joe biden the liberal mob is going to take over. So the president had that kind of a message. This comes at a time when the president cant really afford to lose any more support in the sense that the polls are against him and theyre want getting any better and the internal polls and the public polls. Hes got a pandemic and an economic problem and civil unrest across the country. The political rally was a risk politically and a risk health wise and he had his task force numbers advising him against this, but he really wanted to go forward with this and a lot of reason behind that is they feel that this is their only play, that they have to get the president out there and whether or not that winds up being wise, well see in a couple of weeks how the polls respond and also how the pandemic response, is there a big spread of coronavirus cases because of this . Al carden as, you grew up in a politics that always knew campaigns and in president ial races the more optimistic messenger usually wins and thats sht t thats not the case in the trump era. Can you discern a message thats out of the president right now . Well, i think hes playing right into joe bidens hands. Joe bidens campaign is based on the fact that hes going to be a healer. Our country is divided. Our countrys feelings are too separate, too different and we need to come together so when the president speaks in a way that divides the country into two or more totally isolated, segregated pieces it plays right into joe biden and his campaign, but the random thought about the rally was the fact that it was because the numbers were spreading in joe bidens favor, so i think the campaign got nervous and oversold rally in order to compensate for this declining polling numbers and the result was a disaster for them. And then also the era. I mean without social media you couldnt have 800,000 people punk the campaign, but getting tickets and getting the campaign to give out bad information, and so it was a confluence of, you know, of panicking over the sliding numbers and the consequence of being punked or pooled by these people and that was it for the Trump Campaign last night. Yamiche, i want to bring up john bolton here and there is a pattern in the pattern in the criticism of john bolton to others that the president has criticized. He loves them when he hire those folks and hates them when they go out. A brilliant, wonderful man. What has he done for me . What has he done in afghanistan. I like bolton. Hes a tough cookie. Knows what hes talking about. He made some very big mistakes. John wasnt in line with what we were doing. I have tremendous respect for him. We were not really thinking the same. Of course, yamiche is some of this is because these four gentlemen have put damning things about his fitness for office. John bolton, stunningly uninformed. John kelly, we need to look harder at who we elect. Mattis, rex tillerson, someone who is undisciplined and we cant help, but wonder if this is having an impact and this pileon, questioning the president s leadership. I think what you saw last night and what you see Going Forward is a president who is playing defense, who is trying to really put out this message that he is a strong leader and hes someone who has the virus under control and someone who has his reelection under control. What we see in the john bolton book and its a 500page bombshell detail after detail john boltons thesis is that the president is unfit to be president and that he is someone who tries to curry favor with strong men and authortarrian, and what makes his book so damning is what you laid out in the vacuum. You think of general mattis saying he would ignore commands by President Trump because he had a stream of consciousness with a meeting and he was undisciplined and senator bob corker who talked about the fact that the white house was an adult day care and the president took issue with that. In john boltons book is someone of laying out that there are these quote, unquote, and steering himself sometimes doing bad things because of their own selfinterests. Carol, i want to bring it back to the virus for a second because it sort of stung that chad wolf, and i understand in one way hes saying what hes supposed to say which is weve done a good job, but there is no acceptance of responsibility here of how we are the country that is leading in a number of cases. It just, you know, were the same size as the european union, and they flattened this curve and we havent. Is there any concern in the white house that they have just botched this completely. 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Because despite everything thats changed, one thing hasnt and thats our devotion to you and our communities. Our priority will always be to keep you and our associates safe, while making sure you can still get the essentials you need. Welcome back. Lets turn a bit more directly to the campaign trail and al, i want to play a snippet of what the Trump Campaign wants to make their sort of consistent attack ad message on joe biden. Let me play a montage of these various attack ads that theyve been running against biden the last couple of weeks. Joe biden chinas candidate, irans candidate and osama bin lad ladens candidate. Joe biden cant stand up to the candidate, he never has, never will. China china china. They want to make it about china. Heres what bolton wrote about one specific meeting between trump and xi. He turned the conversation to the president ial campaign pleading with xi, and he wheat and the electoral outcome. I would print trumps exact word, but the governments eview process has decided otherwise. Vanity fair got a hold of unredacted words that said make sure i win. How does this undercut what the campaign thought would be an effective message against biden . First, ive known john bolton for almost four decades and know him well and i believe john bolton. He may have many fault, but hes a truth teller, and so id take anything he says about china and the presidency and alarming. China right now is trumping pardon the pun, on hong kong and theyre invading the border with india and relations with china are horrible and the information about chinas intelligence breaches are also quite alarming and so i dont know that its a good idea to harp on china, but i do expect joe biden to do so and this say way to neutralize bidens campaign and take on china and the record on china. I dont want see a plus one way or the other. Well, and in this case, you know, the democrats are also going to try to make hay of china. Yamiche, i want to show this graphic of the matchup between biden and trump and how very slowly its sort of been, its one of those things if you check day to day, the president ial race doesnt change that much until you look at it over a threemonth period and as you can see here the race has gone from a threepoint race on april 15th and a little before april 15th to where it is now, close to double digits and whats got to be alarming for team trump is the trump number is eroding faster in some ways than the biden number is growing. Think thats why you see the president feeling like he had to go out on the campaign trail to reinvigorate his base and get those numbers higher up and the president is not overly concerned about poll numbers and as we saw in 2016, there are a lot of signs and a lot of people saying dont think about these numbers too much. The spread is growing and its pretty clear that joe biden by staying at home mostly by making very select visits to places that he has a strategy thats working for him. I was just talking to the Biden Campaign this morning and they told me that theyre rushing to make an ad out of President Trump saying that he would be slowing down coronavirus testing. The white house says he was joking and he said that at a rally. So what joe bidens campaign is doing is if we sit back and let president not mention george fwlo floyds name if he keeps doing stuff like that we can point to President Trump or not have the gas that we know joe biden at times has made. Its been interesting, carol, that the Trump Campaign is desperately trying to mike hay, joe biden doesnt answer questions, and joe biden doesnt campaign and come on, media, get him out there. It reminds me of a losing football team, why wont they pass . Why are they kneeling down . Theres a reason theyre running out the clock. Theyre winning. Yes. One of the things i was talking to one of President Trumps campaigners is theyre trying to rebrand joe biden. They believe voters think they know who joe biden is and what theyre trying to do and theyll get aggressive on this. Weve seen some of it is to basically say this is not the joe biden that you know. This is somebody who is not fit to be president. Hes not all there mentally. Theyre going go at the idea that he is not fit for office because hes unwell, and so and thats just one of many ways in which theyre reaching back for their 2016 playbook. Yeah. Its an odd thing to hit biden on when the president keeps bringing up his own issue with the health watch, as well and the odd amount of time he spent on that. I have to wrap it there. That is all we have for today. 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