Shot of early weather projections to justify the move. And i mean really early projections. [ laughter and applause amid reports of Hurricane Dorian new articles have been published on femas unofficial waffle house index for measuring storm severity, which tracks whether Waffle House Restaurants in particular areas are fully open, serving a limited menu or completely closed. [ laughter ] and from what i know of waffle houses, if theyre closed, run [ laughter ] [ cheers and applause a former Trump Campaign aide has announced shes dropping her lawsuit accusing President Trump of kissing her without her consent. Shes also asked that we stop referring to her as a Campaign Aide [ laughter and applause iowa representative steve king yesterday defended the conditions inside Migrant Detention Centers and said he is not worried about reports that people have resorted to drinking from toilets because he himself drank the toilet water and said it was quote, actually pretty good. [ laughter ] added king, definitely top fiv toilets ive ever drank from. [ laughter and applause today, today was national be late for something day in case any white people want to tell their friends about lizzo [ laughter ] thats as good as i thought i want to clarify. [ applause ] i didnt think that joke would go better than that. [ laughter ] but its still an excellent joke [ laughter ] according to a new study, 63 of people find cleaning to be relaxing, while others do it to repress their murderous tendencies [ laughter and applause according to reports, floridas population is expected to increase by six Million People by 2030, probably from all those people moving out of alabama to escape the hurricane [ laughter and applause starbucks announced today it will offer Additional Mental Health benefits for its employees. While dunkin told its employees to keep punching holes in the drywall. [ laughter ] officials in new york are considering a proposal that would require cyclists to carry licenses, begging the question, where . [ laughter ] i mean, yeah, i got it but youre not going to like where im holding it. [ laughter and applause and finally, according to a new study, 32 of americans would rather give up sex for an entire week than be in a Customer Service line said the other 68 , you have sex every week . [ laughter and applause ladies and gentlemen, we got a great show for you tonight [ cheers and applause he is the senator from vermont and a 2020 president ial candidate. Senator Bernie Sanders is back on the show, everybody [ cheers and applause were always so happy to have him back his very funny comedy special, my favorite shapes, is currently streaming on hbo julio torres is back, you guys [ cheers and applause and, hes a civil right activist and author, whose book, on the other side of freedom is now available in paperback Deray Mckesson is joining us [ cheers and applause so happy that we get to talk to him as well. Before before we get to any of our guests, the president is still defending his doctored math insisting that he was right about Hurricane Dorian hitting alabama. For more on this, its time for a closer look. [ cheers and applause seth now, we know donald trump is and has always been a conspiracy theorist and pathological liar who is completely detached from reality. [ laughter ] its always been his brand its just that back when he was a new York Real Estate buffoon, people didnt take it that seriously. [ light laughter ] new yorkers mostly ignored him because thats what new yorkers do with crazy people [ laughter and applause new yorkers new yorkers reacted to trump the way you react to a guy who gets on the subway with a lizard on his shoulder [ laughter ] that was trump except in his case he has two lizards. [ laughter ] [ audience oohs [ cheers and applause in fact, trumps entire trumps entire origin story is basically of that of a crazy guy, who after years of being ignored, finally heard, hey, cool lizard. [ laughter ] his entire campaign for president started as a desperate attempt to get people to take him seriously as he himself admitted to his supporters during a speech in 2016. A lot of people have laughed at me over the years now, theyre not laughing so much, ill tell you. Seth that is something a villain would say in a superhero movie. [ laughter ] dont believe me because that line is almost verbatim a line from the new joker movie. A lot of people have laughed at me over the years and now not laughing so much, ill tell you. Everyone laughed at me. Well, no ones laughing now. [ laughter ] [ cheers and applause seth so now sometimes trump lies for the obvious reasonli to cover up crimes sometimes he makes up weird stuff for no apparent reason, and then, sometimes, theres just little bits of junk floating around in his polluted brain that he belches up during rambling speeches. Like the time he claimed during a speech on trade that canadians were smuggling shoes back across the border to avoid paying tariffs on footwear. Tariffs that do not exist. [ laughter ] there was a story two days ago in a major newspaper talking about People Living in canada coming into the United States and smuggling things back into canada because the tariffs are so massive the tariffs to get common items back into canada are so high that they have to smuggle them in they buy shoes and they wear them [ light laughter ] they scuff them up they make them sound old or look old. Seth they make the shoes sound old . [ laughter ] what does that mean . Do they complain about rap music . [ laughter ] do they hit the roof of the apartment with a broom turn that racket down [ laughter ] we got some boots trying to sleep. [ light laughter ] and of course it isnt just that trump lies, its that he concocts elaborate fantasies to justify those lies even when theyre contradicted by plain Video Evidence you can see for yourself like the time he accidentally called the ceo of apple tim cook, tim apple. [ laughter ] and then tripled down with a series of bizarre and shifting excuses. The president is still playing cleanup after he referred to apple ceo tim cook as tim apple. We appreciate it very much, tim apple. [ light laughter ] the coverage of tim apple has apparently gotten under trumps skin at maralago with no cameras present, trump reportedly explained to a group of donors what really happened axios reports trump told the donors that he actually said Tim Cook Apple like, really fast and the cook part of the sentence was soft, but all you heard from the fake news he said was tim apple. [ laughter ] a few days after that, trump wrote this, at a recent roundtable meeting of Business Executives and long after formally introducing tim cook of apple, i quickly referred to tim plus apple as tim apple as an easy way to save time and words. [ laughter ] seth my favorite part of that tweet is when he writes out tim plus apple [ laughter ] like hes carving it into a tree [ laughter and applause trump has been trump has been at war with reality virtually his entire adult life. And that war took one of its most insane turns yet this week when the president of the United States spread disinformation about a hurricane and then repeatedly went out of his way to insist he was actually right you might remember, this whole thing started when trump tweeted over the weekend that alabama would be hit by Hurricane Dorian and then 20 minutes later, the National Weather service had to tweet alabama will not see any impacts by Hurricane Dorian. We repeat, no impacts from Hurricane Dorian will be felt across alabama that was 20 minutes later. The National Weather service has to monitor the president s tweets as closely as they monitor actual hurricanes. [ laughter ] which actually makes sense because when you think of it, donald trump is the hurricane, except unlike regular hurricanes that eventually die down everyday, trump blows harder [ light laughter ] after he was corrected by his own government, trump doubled down, as you probably saw. Yesterday he seemed to alter a forecast on the storms paths from last week with a circle added in sharpie, to include alabama. [ laughter ] my favorite thing about this is that he didnt even try to blend it in. [ laughter ] he could have at least sent an intern to kinkos to print up a new chart. So, yeah, what are you trying to do here . We want to fake a hurricane map to retrofit a lie the president told to the American People. [ laughter ] okay. When do you need it by . [ laughter ] trump is even too lazy to lie convincingly and he used a sharpie, which gives it away because the only person in the world whos famous for using sharpies is donald trump [ light laughter ] it is a dead give away thats like turning to the avengers and saying, all right which one of you shot me in the ass with an arrow . [ laughter ] hawkeye, was it you, hawkeye . [ light laughter ] and then later, trump was asked about the altered map and he was so flummoxed, all he could do was barf up a lengthy incoherent word salad you showed us the map earlier, the initial forecast yeah. It appeared to have been, i guess, edited or something to include alabama. Can you explain how that came to be no. I just know i know that alabama was in the original forecast they thought it would get it as a piece of it. It was supposed to go actually, we have a betterap than that, which is going to be presented where we had many lines going directly, many models, each line being a model and they were going directly through, and in all cases alabama was hit. They actually gave that a 95 chance probability it turned out that was not what happened it made the right turn up the coast. Everyone is going to be in great shape because were gonna take care of it regardless. Regardless but the original path was through florida. That was probably three days i think thats probably three or four days old. Seth i thought you wanted to save time and words. [ laughter ] [ cheers and applause ill make up for this ill make up for this. Ill say tim apple and thatll buy all that time back [ laughter ] bill microsoft, thats five minutes right there. [ light laughter ] also, if its three or four days old then why are you telling us this why are you showing us a map of a hurricane thats so out of date you had to edit it with a sharpie . At his next briefing hes just gonna hold up a map of pangea. So, this is a little out of date [ laughter ] a little out of date, but as you can see all the countries are am one landmass [ light laughter ] and the hurricane, it was gonna it was supposed to hit all these stegasauruses over here. [ laughter and applause then then, the reporter asked a natural followup question, did you use a sharpie to alter the map . And trump acted like he had no idea what happened and that map that you showed today looked like it was almost had like a sharpie i dont know. I dont know i dont know [ laughter ] seth it is so damning how he just keeps getting quieter [ laughter ] hes like a kid who hit a baseball through his neighbors window who did this . I dont know. [ light laughter ] i dont know [ light laughter ] i dont know. Laughter and applause also, what do you mean you dont know are you claiming someone else defaced your map, like some in d graffiti all over it yeah. They crept in here and drew a circle in sharpie on it. And then they signed their names, tim plus apple. [ laughter and applause and then last night trump still couldnt let it go and tweeted what he claimed was a map of the original forecast dated august 28th which didnt prove anything anyway, because it was four days before his incorrect tweet on sunday. On wednesday, the president tweeted a map trying again to prove his incorrect point. But weather experts say the president was using an out of date map there were much fresher forecasts. President trump tweeted this. Its called a spaghetti model. E hurricane is forecasted to take. Those Spaghetti Models were from august the 28th by the time the president tweeted about alabama at 10 51 a. M. On sunday, the forecast track had moved well east these are all the computer models the spaghettis seth thats right. He tweeted a map of whats known as the Spaghetti Models. And of course, trump probably thought it was a map that tells you where you can find spaghetti. Cou get sp [ light laughter ] so the president has already been corrected by his own government, altered an official hurricane forecast with a sharpie, rambled on about it at a press conference and then tweeted about it and yet somehow this fever dream has not come to an end because trump woke up this morning and again reeled off another deranged tweet storm about it. Trump tweeted, in the early days of the hurricane when it was predicted that dorian would go through miami or west palm beach, certain models strongly suggested that alabama and georgia would be hit and then Hurricane Dorian took a different path up along the east coast. Why did you put that in parenthesis . [ laughter ] thats the only part of the tweet thats correct [ laughter ] at this rate, trumps gonna start adding tiny footnotes to his tweets with the correct information at the bottom. I just nuked something, a hot pocket in the microwave. [ laughter and applause this whole thing whole thing perfectly captures the constant exhausting bewilderment of living through the trump era theres a very real, a very real humanitarian crisis unfolding i rrnt i obsessing over a map he doctored to defend an embarrassing mistake that he is now is repeatedly lying about almost nothing that comes out of his mouth is true. In fact, at any time he speaks, the odds that hes lying are a 95 chance probability. [ light laughter ] seth this has been a closer look. [ cheers and applause well be right back with senator Bernie Sanders, everybody. [ cheers and applause announcer for more of seths closer looks, be sure to subscribe to late night on youtube. Wherever you are. Whatever craving it. G. 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Hi, im mac book. So mac, which laptop lasts longer . Surface laptop lasts longer. Hmm, interesting. And which ones faster . This ones faster. Really . Amazing. Which one has a better touchscreen . The surface has a better touchscreen. Because it actually has a touchscreen. Oh, right. Macs dont have touchscreens. You should get a surface. Trust me, im mac book. Well, there you have it. [ cheers and applause seth welcome back, everybody. Give it up for the 8g band right over there [ cheers and applause all this week weve had the multitalented drummer for charlie hunter, the jaime mclean band and broadyways the lion king with us. Be sure to check out his Award Winning instructional book, concepts and creativityhi is available now Carter Mclean is here, everybody. [ cheers and applause thank you, seth seth thanks for another great week it was wonderful having you back thanks so much. Seth our first guest tonight is the United States senator from vermont hes running for the democratic president ial nomination. Please welcome back to the show, senator Bernie Sanders, everyone [ cheers and applause seth welcome back. Thank you seth you look for everything a candidate has to go through, you look incredibly well rested. Is that accurate not real well [ light laughter ] were hanging in there seth youre hanging in you had there was a Climate Change forum last night. Yup seth and we have another round of debates coming up and i was wondering if you prefer a forum to a debate based on the fact that as far as getting your messaging out, it must be nice to have a longer chunk of time. Absolutely. The debate format is just weird. You know, youre asked complicated [ laughter ] youre asked complicated questions. And then you got 30 seconds to respond. Tell us what youre going to do about the healthcare crisis. All right, times up. [ laughter ] so, you know, the forum doesopp know, speak at some length and cnn did a good job, i thought. Thing, certainly, the Democratic Candidates are all taking seriously. People are unveiling plans that maybe cost 4 trillion, 5 trillion. You have a 16 trillion plan obviously, thats the most the highest price tag of any plans. Yup seth how do you explain to people that one, thats how much money its gonna take. And, two, that we can actually pay for it well, we actually do pay for it i mean, one of the ways we pay for it is by doing away with 400 billion in tax breaks and subsidies that go to the fossil fuel industry. [ cheers and applause of this, seth. And what the scientists are telling us, not only, you know, that donald trump is living in a far away and dangerous world when he thinks Climate Change is a hoax what they are telling us, that if we dont get our act together in fewer than 12 years the damage done by Climate Change in this country and around the world will be damage that cannot be repaired. And i think that we have a moral responsibility for our children and future generations to do everything that we can to make sure that we leave them a planet that is healthy and habitable. One where there is not more drought and more floods. I was in paradise, california. Do you remember paradise that town that burned down in california it was unavailable a year ago, a town of 26,000 people, 86 people died. Burned were looking at whats change this is what we have to look forward to in years to come unless we bring the world together and tell them that instead of spending a trillion and a half dollars a year on weapons of destruction designed to kill each other, maybe we pool our resources and fight our common enemy, which is Climate Change [ cheers and applause seth you have obviously, from the very beginning, from even four years ago i think an issue people associate the most with you is healthcare. Right seth and youve recently called the corporate Healthcare System, i believe, crazy [ bleep ] was that [ laughter ] uh, not quite seth okay, sorry i think i used the word, obscene and barbaric. [ laughter ] but youre not far off seth yeah. The gist, i think i got the gist right. A lot of the other candidates have sort of came out for medicare for all but then have walked back to the idea of eliminating private insurance all together now the elimination of private insurance all together, that actually does not poll particularly well. Are you do you think that is being misrepresented to people yeah. Seth when theyre asked that poll question yeah, i do. I think if you say to people we are going to do away with all of your premiums us a guy today. . Oh, a thousand dollars a month. Wats 12,000 a year. 4,000. Insurance kicks in now you can call it a premium. But if you call it an insurance tax, all right, that looks a little bit different so what were going to do under medicare for all is end all outofpocket expenses, all premiums, all copayments youre going to have freedom of choice with regard to the doctor and hospital you want to go to and at the end of the day, the overwhelming majority of the American People will be paying less for healthcare out of a general tax base than they do right now. Look, at the end of the day and this is the point, we are spending twice as much per person on healthcare as canadians or any other major country on earth and yet we have 87 Million People uninsured or underinsured 30,000 americans die each year because they dont go to a doctor on time were getting ripped off by the Drug Companies who charge us the highest prices in the world for prescription drugs i went up to canada last month with some people in the midwest who are dealing with diabetes. We bought insulin. You know what the differential was . It was onetenth of the price in canada and thats because the Drug Companies engage in price fixing theyre ripping us off and under my administration, that will stop believe me, that will stop [ cheers and applause set t candidates is how will you work if elected, how would you work with repuan how will you work with mitch mcconnell. Obviously, in Climate Change, with healthcare. And both those cases you will have to deal with the corporate interests of those industries. Do you feel as though you can have a partnership with them moving forward or do you think they see your plans as so against their sort of better interests that it will be contentious the Healthcare Industry last year made 100 billion in profit when many millions of people cant even afford the prescription drugs they need or go to the doctor when they should and i think at mth t americans understand thath we need a Healthcare System which designed to provide quality care to all people not to make 100 billion in profit for the Insurance Companies and the Drug Companies. And thats what we are going to do and i think that the time is so long overdue for the United States to join every other major country on earth and guarantee healthcare to all. Many people dont know that in canada you have heart transplant in canada all right . Youre in the hospital for a month. You know what your bill is when you leave the hospital zero its zero. You go to any doctor you want. You dont take out your wallet because healthcare is a human right there. And must be a human right in this country and when we moved to medicare for all, we can save the vast majority of American People money on their healthcare bills. No more premiums no more copayments no more outofpocket expenses seth you are [ cheers and applause again i said you look very robust you look healthy you have a background an athletic background. I do. Seth we have a high school track. There you are. Thats me seth there you are [ cheers and applause are you a decent runner . Yeah, i was i was went to school in brooklyn, new york. And seth yeah. You cant tell from your accent. I know that [ laughter ] yeah i mean, i think i won that race as a matter of fact. Seth very good it looks very i mean, you have the confidence of a guy whos leading. [ laughter ] we talked about this before. We talked about bernie speaks, when you were a mayor in vermont, you had a Public Access show i did seth they have now, due to your rising profile, they put them all online. I know. Seth and [ laughter ] believe me, i know seth weve just edited together a few of the things we are just delighted by. So here are the highlights you are delight by. All right, lets see seth bernie speaks i got a major announcement for all the hunger young boy scouts here if you go to the delicatessen on north street and north wanooski, theyre going to provide you free sandwiches. [ light laughter ] what do you get for bringing in the biggest fish . 100,000 for each category. Well, arty, listen, i a couple things i would like to chat with you about. 100,000 . Yeah. For each category, lake trout or a salmon. Holy god, thats a lot of money. [ laughter ] bernie, have you ever been on a horse before yes right does it look like i have not been what are you doing here . Theyre operating on the horse. [ laughter ] seth see thats nice. [ cheers and applause unlike a debate, we got to spend time with you. Best of luck out there stay healthy its always a pleasure to talk to you [ cheers and applause Bernie Sanders, everybody. Well be right back with julio torres [ cheers and applause so you can stay connected almost anywhere. Like up here at lookout point. But theres more. Now all 4 of us get unlimited data, talk and text for just 25 per line per month. Hashtag first date he aint family yet. But theres more. We got 4 lg stylo™5 phones for free. Now the whole family can stay connected. Not this connected. Switch to boost mobile and get 4 lines with unlimited gigs for 25 per line per month plus 4 free lg stylo™5 phones, all on our super reliable, super fast nationwide network. Applebees handcrafted burgers now starting at 7. 99. Now thats eatin good in thneorod now starting at 7. 99. Hey, who are you . Oh, hey jeff, im a car thief. 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Wake up,diego p diego estoy ocupado. dejame dejame ma [ song johnny cash, these are my people. ] these are my people this is the land where my forefathers lie these are my people in brotherhood were heirs of a creed to live by a creed that proclaims that by loved ones blood stains and these are my people this is my land yes, these are my people these are my people hmm [ cheers and applause seth our next guest is an emmynominated writer, you know espookys. His special, my favorite shapes by julio torres, is currently streaming on hbo now please welcome back to the show, our friend, julio torres, everyone [ cheers and applause seth how are you im great, how are you . Seth im good. Last time you were here, we had you with your costars, anna and fred, and you were talking about los espookys. Yes seth youre working on a second season. Will you be shooting im assuming in south america again . Yeah. Were going back to santiago, which is far be a part of thiowre as in armisen, is in the show. Seth yes my friend anna, me, some fantastic mexican actors, and then a bunch of really talented chilean actors that are like, oh, my god, its a goldmine. Seth yeah. Yeah. Seth you traveled this summer greece, spain, right yes seth do you like europe . Could you see yourself living there . You know, ive been to berlin and i could see myself living there. They you know, they like their clubs. Seth yes yes seth and you like your clubs . And i like my clubs as well and they but they do it right. You could even get like an acai bowl or a sandwich at the club, which is like not [ laughter ] seth oh, wow yeah. Seth yeah, you dont think of that in american clubs, you dont think an acai in american clubs, youre hungry and then you have to go home seth yeah, right [ light laughter ] but there, they have acai and i gree have you been . Seth ive been to greece, yeah its lovely. Its i just love the water and the caves, theyre just so full of secrets, because you just dont know. [ light laughter ] seth these are water caves or just like just any cave has i think, great secrets, but the juicier secrets are the water caves, yeah seth yeah. [ laughter ] and do you, are you someone as an aquarius. Seth oh, youre an aquarius. I need the caves, i need the water. Seth gotcha. And do you feel as an aquarius, the caves are more likely to give you their secrets [ light laughter ] as opposed to someone like, i mean, obviously a capricorn, ive never been given, yeah. [ laughter ] yeah, im certainly more seduced by the water and the secrets. Seth gotcha. Yeah. Seth so traveling a lot, im very happy to hear this that you are not, you will only traveling and only at airports will you actually order a Starbucks Coffee yes seth you are a coffee drinker. I am a coffee drinker but i dont frequent that kingdom. Seth wow the starbucks kingdom i dont i pass by them everyday but i dont frequent it and when i have to, when im at an airport, a food desert that is the airport and there is nothing else, i refuse to participate in their laws. And i just say, can i get a small coffee. ] and then, theyll be, like, you mean a and im not even going to say it because i just [ laughter ] and im like, a small. [ laughter ] and theyre like, okay, so a and im like, if that is what you choose to call it, yeah. Smallest coffee. I would like your smallest coffee [ light laughter ] however you choose to interpret that [ laughter ] seth your special is so good on hbo oh, thank you seth i highly recommend it to everybody and i first became familiar with your work on snl. And one of the things i always like offering to snl writers is Second Chance theater where you could come here and produce a sketch that did not work on snl. Yes seth do you have any of those sketches that didnt quite work on the show i have i am 95 of those sketches, but seth okay. [ laughter ] there was one that i was about to say came close but it didnt even get read [ laughter ] the title of this sketch was bluebie. Seth bluebie. Bluebie. Seth okay. Yes this was it was a week where my i just you know, sometimes, you have so many ideas, sometimes, you forget that you have to come into work. Seth yeah. And, so i was completely drained of ideas and i was in r seth great writer. Fantastic writer, a true gem. And we were like, what, should we write something together . Like, what do we write what do we write . And then, i just grabbed a piece of paper and a pencil. And was like, how about something for her . Seth so this is what you drew yeah. [ laughter ] seth so youve created the character first, and then, you said, we have to figure out a sketch for her and i was like, how about something with her . [ laughter ] and then, i think, if memory serves me right, anna drezen just sort of nodded and went bluebie. Seth bluebie yeah. Seth and who is bluebie . Well, bluebie is bluebie is not a character so much, shes a medical condition. Seth oh, gotcha. [ laughter ] seth and what are the symptoms of bluebie . [ laughter ] eln pregnant woman goes to the doctor, shes getting a sonogram i believe we wrote it for gal gadot. Seth okay. [ laughter ] and she goes and then, the doctor is like, you know, the twins look fine, however, you have a bluebie and then, we were cut into the inside of this woman and bluebie is just sort of bouncing around, going, im drunk, im a bitch [ laughter ] seth so you eat too many blueberries and you have a drunk yes seth okay. [ laughter ] so if you eat too many blueberries, you run the risk of the blueberries coming together and forming an obnoxious drunk bluebie, who keeps lying seth these are two blueberries whove met this is two blueberries whove met yeah, and these are other little blueberries, i think and the worst a bluebie can do is that she keeps lying about being e clhe at the club [ laughter ] when shes not on the list shes deceiving you. Seth these are very late nights this, very much, bluebie strikes me as something that you maybe came up with very late at night. 4 00 p. M. Seth yeah. [ laughter ] but one of the hard things at snl is youre working and youre stressed and you sometimes forget to eat or you eat badly and somebody will order a pizza and the worst thing you can do at 3 00 a. M. If youre trying to, like, have an idea is eat a piece of pizza right i dont i am vegan. So i looked at the pizza [ laughter ] but one time, my body really felt like it needed a smoothie sure, sure, sure like, you dont need a solid, you dont need a juice, you need a smoothie so i just felt like i really needed a smoothie and i was in my office and i just looked up places where i could get a kind oooing, like, oh, you get your interns to get you a smoothie . Seth yeah, yeah. [ laughter ] and this lovely intern comes in i was like, i would like this smoothie heres my card. He goes, okay. Then, he leaves. And its late at night and its dark out already, and i just get this horrible, horrible pounding headache. I get migraines sometimes. So i just closed the door to my office and turned the lights off and just sit on the couch alone in darkness, just waiting just waiting for the headache to go away. Then theres a knock on my door sometime later and its this lovely intern. I goesmoote, he hands me my en,y computer screen and he seems terrified. [ light laughter ] and then, he leaves. And then, i see what he saw on my computer screen, which was a giant picture of the very smoothie i asked him to go get [ laughter ] so, to him, i am the psychopath, who is just sitting alone in the dark looking at a picture of a smoothie, thinking, oh, you will be mine. [ laughter ] seth julio torres, everybody. [ cheers and applause my favorite shapes by julio torres, is streaming on hbo now. Well be right back with Deray Mckesson [ cheers and applause wish you were here. To see how bright the human spirit can shine, to see that no matter what nature does,e. With one of the industries largest catastrophe Response Teams state farm will always be among the first to arrive, and the last to leave. To help show that human nature is greater than nature. Uh huh well thats more than 3. 4 ounces youre going to have to toss that. Or just drink it here. Hvr. You either love it or you really love it. And these new highrise slim straights are it. 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And youre like [ laughter ] but, you know, sixth grade was great. And i had this commitment to kids and then i saw mike brown was killed on the news and i was like, they killed a teenager so the least i could do was stand in the street for two days for the weekend. So i go to st. Louis the second i was in st. Louis was the first night that i was tear gassed and i was like, ill do whatever i can to make sure that nobody else experiences this. Story. What made you want to sit down to write the book . Yeah, you know, its been five years since the protest and in five years so much has happened and i wanted to write a book where people could learn some of the lessons that we learned. Where i could share some of the stories. And that was this. So i talk about all the stuff. About the police about movement work. Abouwhere wt seth one of the things about this book i noticed that, you know, you call it the case for hope. What about what youve experienced and where you see Going Forward has made you have this optimistic view yeah, you know, i think about hope is a belief that our tomorrows can be better than our todays and, you know, in 2014 we probably wouldve said that we need better People Better police chiefs, mayors, City Council Members but now we know we need a system that works whether the people are good or bad, right so you look now. Were like theyre actually a set of laws, policies, and practices that almost guarantee the police wont be held accountable. And we know them you know, we actually know what the answers are. And we didnt in 2014. So we know that, like, a law in california that says that any investigation of an officer that lasts more than a year can never result in discipline. That doesnt make sense. You know, we know those things so im hopeful because we know what the answers are and i think we can do it seth you are recognizable for a lot of reasons but one is the vest. The vest. Seth the vest is a calling card of sorts. Tell us the story behind the vest you know, we were on the street you know, we were on the street for 400 days. It was illegal to stand still. And august, september, and october of 2014, if we stood still for more than 5 seconds we were arrested. It was wild. You know and i think about all those moments seth how quickly into the protest did they establish this Five Second Rule it was probably, like, 15ish days, you know seth okay, got it. I was one of the plaintiffs in the court case that got that deemed unconstitutional. But it was , like, imagine not being able to stand still. Its a long time seth yeah. Of marching. You know, people thought we were marching in solidarity with the civil rights movement. It was, like, no we had to march. We would have loved to stand still. But we had to march. Seth yeah. So we did and it was so wild and i never want to forget it. So the vest was, like, our reminder it is my reminder that, like, what we went through was real. The tear gas, pepper spray we did a sitin of a Police Department i got dragged out of that Police Department by my ankles and thrown out that, like, all those things happened, you know seth you, obviously, believe Police Reform is a vital step we need to take how do you go about doing it how do you enact it . How do you get Police Departments to agree that there is a path forward that takes everybody into account yeah, so getting the Police Department to agree a little shaky. But we know that a third of all the People Killed by a stranger is actually killed by a Police Officer in this country. This is the first year ever where black people are more afraid of being killed by an officer than being killed in a community. Which is wild. And were trying to help people understand that, like, the safest neighborhoods arent the neighborhoods with more police theyre the neighborhoods with more resources so nypd, youve probably seen on the news that the nypd is going through a slow down where theyre, like, not arresting people and this is their sort of, like, middle finger to the mayor around firing the officer who killed garner. Do you know whats happened since the slow down . Seth has crime has gone down crime has gone down both times, yes. [ cheers and applause it is seth i would have crushed it in your sixth grade math class too. Yeah yeah, one more. Of all the arrests that happened in the country, what percent do you think happened for Violent Crime . Seth of all the arrests that happened in the country, what percent happened because of Violent Crime . Five how did you they told you . Seth no, i dont know. Im kidding no, its five percent. Yeah, isnt that nuts . Seth all right its much lower than people [ laughter ] exactly, exactly seth well, i would have answered differently if you werent asking, you know what i mean yeah yeah, so its just not as bad as people think. And we want people to know that, like, if asked you where the safest where you feel the safest, youre probably not going to say a room full of police, right . Youre probably going to be, like, a place where theres food, shelter, family and resources. And we believe that for everybody. So how to get the police on board, hard in some places because they sort of exist in a world theres not a lot of accountability and, like, imagine if theres an institution where the worst thing you can do, you just gets sent to a training its like, thats not really an accountable thing. So places like portland, oregon, seattle, they have laws that say or rules that say that officers have to be disciplined in the least embarrassing manner its like i dont know what that means. You know what i mean and cleveland, they destroy Police Officers disciplinary records every two years. Youre like, you can love the police and think that doesnt make sense, you know seth well i you know, i think with any institution as well, you want them to improve and it does seem like those are things in place that make improvement tricky i want to thank you so much for writing this book. And thank you for all your activism and thanks so much for being here tonight i really appreciate it [ cheers and applause its good to be here. Seth Deray Mckesson, everybody. Well be right back. [ cheers and applause we are here to discuss jessies online time. And out of respect, we will let you make the first offer. Thirty minutes. Thirty minutes . Objection overruled. One hour. Sweeten the deal by doing the dishes and ill consider it. I wouldnt do it. I hate the dishes. One hour with the tablet, you walk the dog and do the dishes. If you insist. Congratulations. Only xfinity xfi lets you take control of your familys online time. Thats simple, easy, awesome. Xfinity xfi gives you the speed, coverage and control you need. Manage your wifi network from anywhere when you download the xfi app today. [ cheers and applause seth my thanks to senator Bernie Sanders, julio torres, Deray Mckesson Carter Mclean, and of course, the 8g band. Well see you tomorrow, everybody. Goodnight [ cheers and applause carson hi there, im carson daly and youre watching last call. Thank you so much. We are the flatiron h
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