She spoke at the womens rally in park city, utah, this week. Ill read was at sundance because she herself is now the subject oa new documentary. Lled seeing allred we will speak with Gloria Allred as well as jane fonda. We have an opportunity to really make a difference because people are recognizing what is at stake. It is never been this clear. Oftentimes you have to go to another country to see what could happen. Our is actually democracy is being threatened, and i think people are awoke. Amy the documentary jane fonda atfive acts also premiered sundance. Having just turned 80, was it down wh jane fonda to talk indepth about her lifes work, particularly going to hanoi to oppose the vietnam war. We talked acting, activism, and aerobics . Plus, we will hear from oscar nominee common. Asnow women get paid as much men do. Dr. Angelo looking from heavens window, telling him girls phenomenal woman is in you. Body is a temple. Men dont cry. Mother around you saying its ok. Toilet seats down, thats the nobrainer. Monuments in washington offender lou Hamer Fannie Lou hamer. Amy we speak with common about voting rights, erica garner, and President Trump. All that and more, coming up. Welcome to democracy now , democracynow. Org, the war and peace report. Im amy goodman. President trump ordered special order the firing of special Counsel Robert Mueller be fired last june, and only backed away from this demand after the Top White House lawyer, Donald Mcgahn, said hed rather resign than carry out trumps order. Thats according to an explosive New York Times investigation, which chronicles how President Trump tried to claim special Counsel Robert Mueller had conflicts of interest that disqualified him from carrying out the Ongoing Investigation into whether the Trump Campaign colluded with russia in order to sway the 2016 election and whether President Trump later tried to obstruct the probe into the possible collusion by firing fbi director james comey. Trump tried to claim mueller was disqualified because mueller had once had a dispute over the fees at the Trump National golf club in virginia because he had once worked for a law firm that had also represented trumps soninlaw Jared Kushner and because he had interviewed for the job of fbi director to replace comey. But white house lawyer Donald Mcgahn was unswayed by trumps arguments, and he refused to instruct the Justice Department to fire mueller, saying that his firing could have a catastrophic impact on trumps presidency, and that he, thats mcgahn, would rather quit. This morning in davos, switzerland, where trump is at the World Economic forum, he rejected the york times new report. Pres. Trump fake news, folks. Typical New York Times fake stories. Amy amid the political chaos in the United States and the escalating threat of nuclear war between the u. S. And north korea, the bulletin of the atomic scientists have advanced the Doomsday Clock 30 seconds closer to midnight. It is with considerable concern we set the time of the 2018 Doomsday Clock and offer a plea to rewind the Doomsday Clock. It is two minutes till midnight. Amy the clock is a symbolic timekeeper that tracks the likelihood of nuclear war and other existential threats. It now stands closer to midnight than at any time since 1953. The scientists directly cited President Trumps Nuclear Policies as one of the reasons for advancing the clock. Scientist Lawrence Krauss also said the loss of trust in facts themselves contribute to the growing existential threat. The danger of Nuclear Conflagration is not the only reason the clock has been moved forward. This danger looms at a time when there has been a loss of trust and political institutions, in the media, in science, and in facts themselves. All of which exacerbate the the real problem the world faces and which threatened undermine the ability of governments to effectively deal with these problems. Amy in washington, d. C. , immigrant Rights Groups and some democratic lawmakers are slamming President Trumps new proposed immigration plan, which would provide a 10to12 year path to citizenship for about 1. 8 million young undocumented immigrants in exchange for no protections for their parents. 25 billion for trumps border wall, an end to the family reunification program, and an end to the diversity lottery system, which particularly benefits african nations. Opponents of trumps plan say it would dramatically restrict Legal Immigration paths and hurt families. The plan was crafted by his trumps xenophobic policy adviser Stephen Miller and white house chief of staff general john kelly, who previously served as the head of the Homeland Security and before that, as the head of pentagons southern command. In response to the plan, the American Civil Liberties union tweeted today the white house released a hateful proposal that would slash Legal Immigration to levels not seen since the racial quotas of the 1920s, eliminate legal channels for african immigrants, and spend 25 bil for a wasteful border wall increase in Border Patrol and ice agents. Many immigration activists and democrats have vowed to oppose the plan, with illinois democratic conessmember Luis Gutierrez tweeting it would be far cheaper to erect a 50foot concrete statue of a middle finger and point it towards latin america. Both a wall and the statue would be equally offensive and equally ineffective and both would express trumps deeply held suspicion of latinos. In more immigration news, the Naacp Legal Defense Fund has sued the Trump Administration over its decision to end temporary status protections for nearly 60,000 haitian immigrants who have been living in the United States for years. The group is arguing the move was irrational and discriminatory and that it was motivated by President Trumps public hostility toward immigrants of color. President trump is facing protests in davos, switzerland, where hes slated to address the World Economic forum this morning. Swiss activists greeted trumps arrival with a 200footlong banner hung on the side of a mountain reading trump not welcome. This is activist andreas freimueller. Eight helicopters passing by would donald trump sitting in one of them, and we want to send a very clear message to him. We dont agree what you are doing. What you do is not good for the world, not good for the people. Amy in south korea, at least 38 37 people have been killed in a fire at a hospital in the southeastern city of miryang. At least 140 more people were injured. It was one of the deadliest it comes on the heels of another recent deadly fire, which killed 29 people last month. In news on honduras, an explosive new investigation by the Associated Press says honduran president Juan Orlando Hernandezs new National Police chief personally helped facilitate the delivery of more to a Drug Cartel Boss in 2013. The report says police chief Jose David Aguilar moran was serving as the chief of intelligence for the National Police when a Police Officer busted a tanker truck filled with more than 1700 pounds of cocaine. Now police chief regular then reportedly personally ordered the corrupt officers to be freed in the drugs delivered. The u. S. Street value of the cocaine shipment was over 20 million. The Ap Investigation is another blow to juan orlando hernandez, who is slated to be sworn in on saturdayfter higy contentious reelection that the American Organization of states says was riddled with fraud. Since the november 26 vote, nationwide protests and strikes have rocked honduras, with more mass protests being organized for inauguration day. This is demonstrator maria esther escalante. Unfortunately, democracy has been lost in this country. We see every day how the dictatorship imposes itself in the country and therefore creates a situation that puts greater complexity and greater difficulty on the defense of human rights. Amy puerto rico says after it was hit by the devastating hurricane maria, it will not pay any of its debt servicing payments for the next five years. That is according to the new fiscal plan which must be approved by puerto ricos unelected congressionally imposed fiscal control board. Meanwhile, Harvard Students are demanding their university divest its 2 billion commitment with a bostonbased hedge fund that is a large holder of puerto ricos debt. And the Supreme Court has stayed the execution of vernon madison, after his lawyers argued he was mentally incompetent after being imprisoned in solitary confinement on death row for 30 years. Vernon madison was sentenced to death for the killing of a Police Officer in 1985 in alabama. And those are some of the headlines. This is democracy now, democracynow. Org, the war and peace report. Im amy goodman. We are broadcasting from the Sundance Film Festival in park city, utah, which has been surging with energy from the metoo and times up movement. The week began with hundreds of thousands of women taking to the streets across the United States saturday to mark the First Anniversary of last years historic womens march protesting President Trumps inauguration. Here in park city, utah, protesters braved freezing temperatures and a snow storm on saturday to take part in the respect rally. It was here at sundance two seconds ago that movie mogul harvey one steam allegedly sexually assaulted rose mcgowan. Mcgowan told the New York Times in october that weinstein offered her 1 million hush money payment if she signed a nondisclosure agreement not to come forward with her charges that he raped her in a hotel room during the 1997 sundance festival. Just last year, weinstein was at sundance and attended the womens march air. Weinstein was in town promoting jayzs docuseries, time the Kalief Browder story about new york city teenager Kalief Browder, who committed suicide in 2015 after he was sent to rikers jail at age 16 and was held for three years, much of that time in solitary confinement. Last year, i was able to speak to jayz about color leave, rikers, until Harvey Weinstein ended the interview. Do you think rikers should be closed . Oh, man. If anything like that is happening if that happens to one kid, any place that that can happen to any kid should be closed. Amy your thoughts on donald trump and what it means ties. You know what . This is a labor of love. As a result, he is my friend. We can talk about that and nothing us. Amy can i ask about incarceration . Do you think that movement amy that was last year as Harvey Weinstein took jayz away. This year, longtime womens rights attorney Gloria Allred. Allred is onof the most powerful advocates for survivors of Sexual Assault and a survivor herself. She now represents one of the women who have accused President Trump of Sexual Assault. Her daughter, attorney lisa bloom, was an advisor to weinstein. She has apologized for that sense. During Gloria Allred speech on saturday at the respect rally, allred called for passage of the equal rights amendment. We demand the passage of the equal rights amendment, that equality of rights shall not be deniedr abridged thenited states or by any state on account of sex. Resist. Persist. Elect. And dont forget insist. Insist. And let me tell you, utah, we have 36 states who have ratified the equal rights amendment, most recently nevada. And now it is time for utah host of resist. Insist. Persist. Elect. And give a hearing to the e. R. A. In utah. Yes, lets hear it. We need you to be the 37 state. We need 38. Let me tell you, no one has ever given women their rights. The women who fight for the right to vote suffered, had to fight for 70 years to win the right to vote. And we have been fighting for almost 95 years just to put women in the constitution to protect the rights of our daughters. And were going to have it. Were going to fight to win it. Were going to make sure that from the white house to the congress to state capitals to our workplaces to our homes, that we are going to stand for protection in the constitution for women and equal rights. Amy that is longtime womens rights attorney Gloria Allred speaking at the womens march here in park city, utah, on saturday. She was at the Sundance Film Festival for the premiere of a documentary about her life and pathbreaking legal career. The film is called seeing allred. This is the trailer. I am so proud of all of the women who have had the courage to speak out. Powerful men have to understand there are rules. There are boundaries. They must respect those boundaries. This has got to end and it needs to end right now. There is a war on women. Women depend on me to be strong and to protect their rights. Joining us, over at the tourney. Click she talked about Sexual Harassment is womens rights. When nobody wanted to talk about it. You think no more women will come forward. He is very wrongful top power only understands power. Fighting injustice, commitment that i made. She understands what we are expressing based on what she had experienced herself. What happened to me was absolutely shocking. I cant even think about it. Getting too personal . My commitment to women comes from my own life experience. I have this venom toward Gloria Allred. Somebody is lying. That is assault. I think gloria enjoys conflict. This makes her a great champion for us. People say she is loud, she has an ego. She loves the camera. She is trying to turn women into men. Having to met any men like that . Arrest these fathers who are not paying child support. Nicole would have just been that person on the gurney. We deserve to know if mr. Cosby is a sexual predator. This is not state law as we see it. You can issue the marriage license. Becoming a survivor. Becoming a fighter for change. Women are now empowered, and they will never be silenced again. Amy so that is the trailer for seeing allred, a documentary film on the legendary womens right attorney Gloria Allred. It comes out on netflix february 9. The film just premiered here at the Sundance Film Festival. After Gloria Allred walked off the stage in the midst of the snowstorm and freezing weather on saturday, i got a chance to speak with her at saturdays rally. I am attorney Gloria Allred. I am a womens rights attorney. I have been for 42 years. Amy and you represent some of the women who have charged trump with Sexual Assault. Woman, who is one one of the women who spoke out in reference to then mr. Trump during the campaign and made allegations that he engaged in sexually Inappropriate Conduct with her. He then called her, and all of the women who spoke out, liars and that he would sue them after the election. He did not sue them. I called on him after the election to retract his threats to sue and his statement that they were all liars. He did not do that. So on behalf of summer, we filed the defamation lawsuit in new york. It is now pending before the court. Es made a motion to dismiss. We have filed our opposition. Were provided our oral arguments in hearing and we are awaiting the course decision as to whether we will be permitted with this defamation lawsuit. Amy does the president have immunity . The president has argued that he has legal immunity as president of the United States. In response, of course, we argue has been decided in the case apologized first is president clinton. Where in the United States up in court said that no man is above the law, including the president of the United States, front official acts. We argue that if we can prove and he said what he said prior to becoming president of the United States, that is an unofficial act and should not enjoy legal immunity. One of his other arguments was that he is president 24 7 and essentially is too busy to be defending lawsuits. Our responsive that is, we will be very respectful of the president s schedule and in the event we are permitted to take his deposition, his testimony under a, we will even be willing to do it at maralago between rounds of golf. To takees so important on a president of the United States at this point . And your thoughts on the fact that 16 women came forward and charged donald trump with various acts of sexual misbehavior, Sexual Assault and harassment, and he became president after that. The recently filed this lawsuit is because truth matters. Thise reason we filed lawsuit is truth matters and that is why we are pursuing this lawsuit. I am very proud of all of the women who came forward in the last year and a half against rich, powerful, famous men, and made the allegations of the injustice they felt they had suffered in their lives. Truth matters to them, too. And women are going to continue to speak out. Amy will other women becoming forward that you know of against President Trump . I have no comment. Amy and what did summers for most charge that he did . Were not going to get in all of that. We have it in a lawsuit on file. Theim proud of all of courage of all of the women. Amy all of the women came for, donald trump became president , but at the same time, the Metoo Movement burst on the scene. Another 16 women who have come out speaking, charging President Trump with verys allegations of assault and harassment and misconduct, are at it again. They are going around for a second shot to say im take us seriously. They want a congressional investigation. Some are speaking up and some are not the stuff they spoke the truth about their lives. I think that is what is important. We have heard them. We will continue to hear them. And not only against and about President Trump, but about other powerful men who have hurt them in their lives, have crossed boundaries, who have shown a lack of respect, who have not been engaged in affording them their rights, but instead in denying them their rights. So women will never be silent again. They are empowered in a way they have never been before. We are going to win change. We have already won some changes ause women have allowed not allow that fear to silence them and were going to win even more in the future. Any go you are here were there ,s a film premiering about you seeing allred. I am honored this documentary, which has been in the works for three years, covering many of my battles for justice for women, is going to be launched this weekend. Then on february 9, on netflix. It is in the documentary competition, so we were honored to be selected out of 2000 entries, i understand, 16 were placed in the competition. Ours is one of them. I just hope it helps to inspire women when they see these other women in the film, some of them my clients and some are not, saying we demand change. Amy what has motivated you personally . Your own life exriences that have led you to lead women taking on powerful men . How muche i realized is at stake. I know my own life experiences, and i have suffered in many ways that other women have. Is what i want is for women to move from becoming just victims to becoming becoming fighters for change. This is a transformative moment, and they are becoming fighters for change. Amy did you ever expect to see this moment . It is a process, and we have been working in this process for 42 years. ,ut this is a very major moment and there is a ripple effect. Way it has been coming in for a long time now, it is a tsunami. Women will never be silenced again. Amy that is legendary womens rights attorney Gloria Allred. Coming up, jane fonda. Stay with us. [music break] amy totally wired by the fall. The falls lead songwriter and singer mark e smith died on wednesday at the age of 60. Billy bragg wrote on twitter first we lost ursula le guin, then hugh masekela, now mark e smith. Been a tough week for cultural icons. This is democracy now , democracynow. Org, the war and peace report. Im amy goodman. We are broadcasting from park city, utah, from the Sundance Film Festival, as we turn to the subject of a new documentary premiering here at sundance about one of the most iconic and controversial actors in hollywood. Shes a girl next door, political activist, fitness tycoon, feminist, and an Academy Award winner. Im talking about jane fonda. Filmmaker susan lacy examines fondas remarkable life in the documentary jane fonda in five acts. Fondas acting career spans six decades and includes performances in such critically acclaimed films as klute, barefoot in the park, coming home, and the Current Television series grace and frankie. But as actresses in hollywood are being recognized for speaking out in the times up movement, fonda has consistently challenged power, from opposing the war in vietnam to organizing around civil rights and economic justice. In one of her more controversial moves, jane fonda traveled to hanoi in 1972 and appeared on several radio programs to speak out against u. S. Military policy in vietnam and beg american pilots to stop bombing civilian targets. During the trip, a photograph was taken of jane fonda seated on an antiaircraft gun in hanoi. The photo earned her the nickname hanoi jane, which was resurrected just this week by nbc morning show host megyn kelly, formerly of fox news. After all, this is a woman whose name is synonymous with outrage. Look at her treatment of our military can the vietnam war. Many of our veterans still call her hanoi jane. Post on an antiaircraft gun used to shoot down our american pilots. She called our pows hypocrites and liars and refer to their torture as understandable. Amy jane has repeatedly apologized for the photograph. In her 2005 memoir my life so far, fonda says she remembers immediately regretting taking the photo. She writes oh, my god. Its going to look like i was trying to shoot down u. S. Planes it was my mistake, and i have paid and continue to pay a heavy price for it. Well, jane fonda also continues to speak out. I caught up with her after saturdays respect rally here in park city. It was after the premiere of the documentary about her life. In december, she celebrated her 80th birthday. Toe fonda, it is wonderful be able to speak to you on democracy now i cant tell you how happy i am that we ran into each other and that i am here with you. Amy did you ever think this year would happen, the Metoo Movement, the Timesup Movement, President Trump being elected . Your thoughts. Trunk is a major negative energy. And when he moves out in the world cup it releases positive energy from other people. So in a way, there something really good about it because people are being enlivened, emboldened, activated that never were before. We have an opportunity now to really, really make a difference because people are recognizing what is at stake. It has never been this clear. Often times you have to go to another country to see what could happen, but this is our democracy is being threatened and i think people are awoke. And what about these movements . So much involved people in your world from timesup, talking hollywood in women saying that had it, right down to Domestic Workers to every walk of life sing sexual abuse, Sexual Misconduct is not acceptable. Im did not expect it and really deeply moved by it. As i have said before, it was the fact that famous white women spoke out and were believed. Black women have been speaking out long before, the most noted is anita hill. But i have been in the meetings and the women that make up the Timesup Movement are young, smart, understand intersection intersectionality. This is an going away. It is the tipping point. Were living through a historic moment now. Amy how important his hollywood in shaping views . The place where you have lived so much of your life. Frankly, i dont think so much. I dont think hollywood frames the news so much. I think, unfortunately, corporations more and more are framing the news. Im working with restaurant opportunities united in michigan a lot on the ground. And what scares me as i travel through michigan, the degree to which average people are not getting news. Stations, the radio stations are being bought up by sinclair and others. It is really scary. I think that corporations are determining what people here, there are some exceptions obviously you, msnbc at night , and others but that is why it is so important that people are on the ground talking to people doortodoor, working within real organizations that have experience of doing this kind of doortodoor work. Because what have we learned . We have learned you cant say anything bad about trump. You cant. You have to tell them something they dont already know. For example, we were canvassing in san diego. A woman who a just lost her job, shed had four children, one with a serious precondition, a mother supporting them all, really scared. 100 trunk supporter. Why . Because he understands me. He is my people and he is authentic. Canvasser, who happens to be an actress who played my daughter in crazy and frankie said, do you know if Trumps Health care package passes, your son will lose his precondition Insurance Coverage . And the woman stopped breathing. She did not know that. She flipped right there. To me, that is a dramatic example of how one porton it is we find a way important it is we find a way to keep real news reaching people. They cant come from hollywood or the democratic party, for matter. E amy you are an actress and activist. You seem to traverse these worlds quite comfortably. You went to Standing Rock. Why was that so important to you, the battle against the to code access pipeline . I am worried about the planet. Im worried about all the weentists who know saying cannot take anymore oil or gas out of the ground. We have enough. We can do without. We can make the transition to renewable without drilling anymore. I knew it was not necessary. I knew it did not even make economic sense because the price of oil has dropped so much. But also in 1970, i went to alcatraz when Indigenous People from the bay area occupied alcatraz. I was there that was like the beginning of the American Indian movement. All of these in people who had they did not know their elders. They did not know the great hopi shaman. They did not know about the traditions and the ceremonies. Wilma man killer, who was the chief of the great cherokee nation, that w where she first connected with the elders. And then fastforward to Standing Rock, and seeing the degree to which the traditional rituals and ceremonies have taken hold and have really saved lives, amid so much to me. It was very, very moving to see that. And also moving to me because with all of what europeans have done to Indigenous People, there is no end to the atrocities we have visited upon them, yet they are still there trying to tell us how we haveo do things differently. They are still hoping that they can have some influence to show us the way to go. They have never given up on us. It is so moving to me. Amy we are here at the Sundance Film Festival, and we just came from premiere of the documentary about your life, jane fonda in five acts. Yearsks about your early as barbarella in hollywood, and then that shift to activism. You just plunged into it in yhe, supporting of black panthers. Talk about the transition you made. Be at thatrtunate to time in my life at a crossroads in history when everything was changing. I mean, i was in france when a combination of worker and student uprisings almost toppled the de gaulle government. My daughter was born a few months after that. There were things happening all over the world. Plus, from france, i could look at television and see this robust movement in the United States standing up to the pentagon and to the administrations. And, i am my fathers daughter. You know . Daughter of the characters he played. I thought, what am i doing . I should be there. With the encouragement of simone , i left and i went there. Amy what did henry fonda, what did your father think . You know, dad, i love him so, he had lived through the mccarthy era. He has seen careers destroyed. He was really scared for me. He did not entirely understand. I would bring, like, green berets and soldiers to talk to him about what their expense was in vietnam, but he cannot go where i was. It was a generational thing. You just did not understand. Started toed when i investigate the black panthers. I went to visit angela davis when she was in jail. And it scared him to death because he thought i was going to fall victim to the same kind of which im. It wasnt the same. Listing, but not blacklisting. Whatever you said to me, which was pretty hard for me to take, came out of his love and fear for me. Amy you are very active in Antiwar Movement with your then husband tom hayden, wellknown antiwar activist with whom you had your son. , the whole country, recently, tom hayden. The significance of your activism there, and then in the film, something i had not realized i knew about the jane fonda workout tapes and i knew about your activism, but i did not understand that these jane fonda workout tapes that you did actually funded, what was it, the California California campaign for economic democracy. Here is how it went. This was a statewide organization that made a huge difference in california. We elected people that are still serving in Public Office in california. We had to raise a lot of money because we have a lot of chapters. There was a recession. I read an article that lyndon roush, that really bad but very wealthy guy had a computer business that would fund people that would hold those signs at the airport and go into gay bars and his people would be to gain people with chains and stuff. I read an article that said he supported all of that with this computer business. So i thought, ok, what business can i go into that could make money . It was the workout. Amy so what happened . So i find it a campaign for economic democracy. Come up. Get on your hands and knees. Weight evenly distributed on your hands. Made a lot of money over the workout. Eventually, about the business. Amy the book and the videos. Talk about how much money were talking about here. You blew it how long were you on the New York Times list. Two solid years. That is what caused the New York Times to start separating it out into categories. At the workout for competing somebody didoth or not make any sense. It must have been hard for tom. That was a difficult period for our marriage and for him. Amy because . I was an activist when we met me. We were together arm in arm on the road doing this incredible Indochina Peace Campaign thing. We really did help, although it is not in the documentary, but we did help and the war. Then the war ended and i started the workout business because we were starting this political organization. The workout business, and of tro a wedge between us it was difficult. I started become more successful as an actor, so it took me away from him. Amy you talk to but youre into work activism and the trip you made to North Vietnam. You did something that you dont see a lot of politicians doing today. And you have said you felt sorry for one part of what you did back then. Can you explain attributed to North Vietnam . I would to North Vietnam explicitly to stop the bombing weve beens, which told by european diplomats that were in the north was happening. Theere not getting it in news. I knew that was catastrophic North Vietnam, like holland, is below sea level and the dikes are made by the presence by hand. They are earth. If there destroyed before the monsoon season, theres a great likelihood that people are going to drown and start. To johnson,proposed lyndon johnson, and he said, no, we cant do that, that is what hillary did when he bombed holland. We can be reversed auditable. But nixon said, yes, lets do it. So i wanted to go and expose that. Gave thethey North Vietnamese gave me an agenda. On the agenda was visiting an antiaircraft gun. I said, i dont want to do that. I do want to visit that. Amy because . I did not think it was appropriate. I was there by myself for two weeks. The things that happened to me we could not put it all in i dont know if we have time, but let me tell you one story. Two stories. I was driving back with my translator in a car from a city that we visited, an Industrial City in North Vietnam that have been destroyed. And on the way back, the driver could hear there were planes coming. I could do here yet, but they said get out and run. There were these manholes on the side of the road with straw things that you put over. And a young girl grabbed my arm. She had schoolbooks with her. She pulled me into a whole. Into a hole. She pushed me in and then jumped in. These were made for one person. We were smooshed against each other. She pulled the top over and the ground started shaking as the bombs fell. I kept thinking, this is a dream. This is really happening. When it was over and the bombing stopped, she took the lid off and i started to cry. I said to my translator, tell her i am so sorry. Im so sorry that were doing this to your country. She was maybe 15. She said to me, at least i think she said to me, this came through translator, dont be sorry. We know why we are fighting. I cant remember her exact words, but with Something Like, your soldiers and pilots, they dont know why they are doing this. It is your tragedy, in a way, Something Like that. T could not have been planned it was just out in the middle of the country. Brought me up short. This 15yearold girl saying, no, we know we may lose people and soldiers, but we know why we are fighting. The tragedy is yours because you dont even know why youre fighting. So that is one story that just made me real. The other is on the day before my last day, the last day being the day i found antiaircraft gun, i was asked to look at a production of arthur millers play all my sons performed on a platform outside in the enemies in vietnamese. It is a story about a factory owner who makes parts for bombers. Es two sons. One is a pilot. His son crashes. The younger son knows the reason the father has found that his factory was making faulty parts for bombers and did not speak up because he didnt want to loose his government contract. He is condemned by his younger son. I see this play. Im sitting next to the director. I said, theres a war going on. Why are you taking it was being toured through villages that had just been bombed. Amy of vietnam . Of vietnam. I said, why . E said, we are a tiny country one day we will have to be friends with you. Our people have to understand that there are bad americans and there are good americans. I was a changed person. ,he whole idea of friendenemy strengthweakness, was turned on its head. In the next day, they said were going to take you up to the ceremony. I went and there were these soldiers standing and they sang a song with the words that ho chi minh had written when he made his address in the square in hanoi. His speech began we hold these truths to be selfevident that all people are created equal. That theyn the words sang. Because he had been a cook in harlem. He knew about our declaration of independence. These soldiers sang. And they asked me to sing we were laughing and clapping. I sat down on that gun. I dont know, i was just out of my mind, basically. I was. I was out of my mind. I did not think it wasnt active. I do not even think what i was doing. And the minute i sat down, cameras went off. I did not realize there were anyone with cameras. As i was walking away i realized, oh, my god, these pictures are going to make it look like i am against my country and my soldiers. I said, please, destroy those pictures. But of course, you would come back to this country and you faced a firestorm. What is interesting, it wasnt that much of a firestorm in the beginning. There was only like an inch of present the New York Times. A few months later, we launched our Indochina Peace Campaign at the ohio state fair. No big deal. I mean, nixon was very unhappy and they did an investigation and a guy from the state to permit said, she never committed treason come onto did was ask the soldiers to think. It wasnt until reagan that they realized how important it would be to use my huge mistake to make me hanoi jane a traitor, to hurt the peace movement. That is what hurts me so much. For the peaceat vement and heard the soldiers. It was a big mistake. Anyway. Amy today with the longest war in u. S. History, afghanistan and iraq, a number of soldiers who come back from all of these places are condemning these wars and asking what the u. S. Is doing. You dont usually hear those soldiers in the media. Yeah. Just like you did not hear the soldiers back in the day or the out and said,poke no, we were not tortured. The vietnamese ruled out torture in 1970, but you never heard from them. Nixon never allow them to have a platform. Amy you just turned 80. What gives you hope today . If i can change, anybody can change. It all around us, the extent to which people can say, oh, my god, our way of life, our value system is being turned on its head. We have to stand up and fight. That gives me tremendous hope. I think it can make a big difference. Sometimes you have to hit autumn. I have a lot of experience with alcoholism. You have to hit bottom before you can start to heal. We have hit bottom and were going to come up from this. Amy in the film jane fonda in whatacts, the last act is you are talking about right now, and living her life, particularly, your life with your women friends. Talk about the importance of women. Harvard did a medical study that showed if you dont have women friends, it is dangerous for your health as smoking. I totally believe it. Women friends are different than men friends. I have studied it. There have been studies done. Women go deep, i die, facetoface. We drill down. Men tend not to. And it is sad because it makes them more vulnerable in the long run. Friendships between women are lifesavers. I mean, pat mitchell, even flirt, pollock on all of my women friends make me strong and keep me going and inspire me so much. Do you, you who got arrested at Standing Rock. I never did. You are so brave. Amy well, that wasnt the intention. All we were doing was filming and saw these guards unleashed dogs on the Standing Rock sioux. What it meant a lot to all of us that you were there. Amy what are you going on to do now . A lot of things, but one of when ive spent time in the Central Valley of california or different parts of michigan and ice the how i see little by little help local radio stations and tv stations are being bought up by the altright and the tea party, that really scares me. People are not getting the information they need. That is something that we have to fight and protect. We need a robust pipeline of real news, then we have to get content in there. There are many, many hundreds if not thousands of black owned tv stations and radio stations that operate on a dime and need support and bolstering and reinforcing and content. So that has to happen. Also, i have worked with restaurant workers. In one of the things i have learned that really points to the important things that timesup doing, restaurant , the federal government says they can earn 2. 13 an hour plus tips. Well, you cant live on that. Even in states where that lowwage has been lifted a little bit, they are totally dependent on tips so that you not only tolerate, but even encourage sexual abuse. Because guys tip more that way. These are often single women supporting families. There are seven states that dont have the twotiered system, where waitresses are in the same minimum wage that other workers do. In those seven states, Sexual Harassment dropped by 50 . To me, is this concrete example of why economic parity and decisionmaking parity is critical if we want to do away with violence against women. So im working with Restaurant Opportunity Centers united. Any go happy birthday. Looking forward to, despite the fact you said this is your last act, and looking for to the next one. Ok. Im looking for to your next act, too. Thanks, amy. Amy that is jane fonda, political activist, feminist, twotime Academy Awardwinning actress. The new film about her is called jane fonda in five acts. We will be back with common. [music break] amy the day women took over by common. We are broadcasting from park city, utah, at the Sundance Film Festival. The musician common is aiming to win his second Academy Award for best song. This time for stand up for something from the film marshall about thurgood marshall. Common is also starring in the tale, a film about child sexual abuse. Well, on saturday, common appeared at the respect rally here in park city and shared a couple of verses from one of his songs. The day women took over, let it continue now women get paid as much as men do dr. Angelous lookin from heavens window tellin young girls phenomenal woman is in you body is a temple, men dont pray mother earths arms around you sayin its okay toilet sts down, thats a nobrainer monuments in washington of Fanny Lou Hamer amy after common addressed the crowd in the snowstorm in park city, i caught up with him next to the stage and asked him about his thoughts on President Trump i try not to Pay Attention to a lot of ignorant comments and things. It just fueled me more to know we got to keep spreading the love and empowering each other. Of course, africa is the home of creation. Ed. First people were found and haiti is a beautiful country. For anyone to generalize, for trump to talk about african, haiti, and that way is, you know, i dont want to put into that i dont get into those games. And focusing on, what can we do to better each other . How can we empower each other and change the system and go out and vote and do things on the ground level that changes our community and changes the way the world is. That is what i thought. He gave me more fuel. Amy common, i so your erica garners funeral, who fight so errd for her father eric garn who died gasping i cant breathe. Your thoughts . First of all, thoughts and condolences for her family. That is why wanted to show up. Rallybeen marching in a for her father. I saw how passionate she is for standing up for justice and justice for all people, but black and brown people. We know it is an imbalance. Seeing what she did, i just wanted to be there to support her family. My thoughts is, it is a painful situation. She lost her father for no reason. Then out of whatever thing she had to deal with, her life is gone. But i believe we have got to fight for them. We have got to go out and do things for them. We keep the energy and spirits alive by going out and doing the work. Amy shoe fossil hard against Police Brutality. Your thoughts on black athletes taking many against Police Brutality . I think any form of peaceful protest in speaking out against injustice is necessary. It is valued. I applied it. And it is peaceful. I love the athletes taking their stance, and i really salute Colin Kaepernick because he is a leader of the movement in many ways. Not in many ways, he is. He sacrificed so much. Because of it, does not have a job right now. But that is the type of sacrifice he made, and he knew what he was talking about and stood on what he believed in. I think those athletes are showing that it is not only about sports or about me rapping or being in films, but what we can do to help other people in tougher situations or even we are in tough situations, so how can we help each other . Amy cant and sessions ramping up the socalled war on drugs . It is another attack on black and brown people. We know theres a war on drugs. Throughout history it has imprisoned or black and brown i dont know what thing in world history, but it is a bad situation. Why not put more money into building schools and building up Educational Programs so we can say on the global level, excellent . Amy President Trump has had to shut down the government rather than allow dreamers to stay in this country. Close to 800,000 people. My thing is, when you are in power and you are a leader, what is the purpose of taking voice and video sister in or stopping on the people who dont like the people who are in difficult economic situations or looking for following a dream and pursue something in their lives that means something, what is the core intention behind that . Why would you want to stop individuals from just pursuing their dreams yet go i dont see how that helps humidity or helps our country. Those ideas are things that i dont believe in. Im glad to be here at this respect rally. More than anything, im standing with our women, standing for our people, standing for black and brown justice, and i stand forgot. Amy that is musician and actor common. That does it for our show. I will be speaking here at 1 00 p. M. At the Park City Museum on main street. A special thanks to our crew here. Democracy now is looking for feedback from people who appreciate the closed captioning. 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