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You have all these things and you can use this tool as one of the good tools that it has, which of course is good for us in a way. Who says, sir, i will give you a smaller share if your price is higher, this is a kind of unfair bidding, but it still works, this unfair bidding, yes, the price will go down to a certain point, but now in these calls where i give a dollar for a series of products, some of them have not gone down. What does he mean, there is no place lower than this. If when they say that anyone can get it cheaper than this, go ahead and this will not happen, but we had a good reduction in many of the recall products, dont answer the statistics that i have in the case of hearing aids 15 , we had a price reduction in the case of prostheses around 10 we had a 5 to 20 decrease in lab kits, a big number. No, you can continue to use it. No, i mean that if we reengineer our methods and prices , you will definitely see success. This does not mean that you will get this money for this price difference. He used to be the manufacturer and the importer used to take this and put it in his pocket. This is a change in the purchasing method. He said, sir, if i buy 100 oz from you , i will buy 1000 oz, and this is interesting to me. This happened to me, this was a promise that was not fulfilled. Yes , this was also a promise made by the ministry of health because it did not have the power to say, sir, i will give this to you or the market. What do i know . The market is in control , and 50 of Consumers Want this glass. It is very difficult for you to buy it. You can say from tomorrow , dont buy this glass, go buy that glass. It does not answer, products can come that are not consumed at all by the user. The only way to accurately lower the prices is through bidding , because it creates an obligation for the buyer and also creates an obligation for the seller, the seller comes and gives a price. In this call, he says, sir , i am he, for example, mr. Javad said, until yesterday, 10 dollars, i will pay 9 dollars. Well, what is his commitment , he will do 9 dollars, he will throw a number, and in the middle he will throw all the ram at each other. As someone who owns a specialized product , you are importing it. It is very important that you know all the characteristics of a good product to import. The width that has been allocated for each of these items that i mentioned was the same for you in 2012 and 2014. It was the same, it means it was a range, the company that was actually importing since 2012 has been importing as many as genso, that is, it has not entered the market with a new actor , but the price of the same main actor has also decreased , which means that strangers, people unfamiliar with this business , are not entering the same dear ones. They used to work and have been working hard to come up with their methods for years changing i said first of my speech, the simpler expression is that the government could allocate less preferential width, but it allocated more per year in this year, that is the time we have. They are now very well aware of the prices of medical equipment, for example, for example, for example, for example, for example, for example, for example, for example, for wheat, for example, for example, for example, for example, for example, for example, for example, for wheat, for example, for copper, the company is not. Different countries give different prices to Different Countries , that is, the price they give us for prosthetics, for example, may be the best price, the price of another country is much higher than ours. We are selling, it is definitely important for us, since we have one country, we sell to a lower number , to another country, we give a higher number to other foreign producers as well. What happened and the price decreased, one of my factors could be that when he saw that the number increased as he said, he gave us a more suitable price. I will serve you one more time. See the recall of a tool that is available to the ministry of health and should it can also be used, but to use what it calls for and under what conditions, it is very important that we dont forget that the medical Equipment Industry still belongs to it. A mistake was made by a company, and i dont know where the tradition of the heart is. Now they say that he brought cable, he brought Something Else , we still suffered a personal injury and we are still suffering from this. Why did this happen . I said, go and bring the same person who left to bring a cheaper one. Yes, he got half of me right , he came to the second half and did this wrong. Tuman went to this congress and seminars, taught and presented himself he gave Good Aftersales Service and after doing all these things, someone will come along and thats fine , whoever goes to make a call, they should be alert, this is very important. Mr. Rezaei, please tell me what is the right way in your opinion and what do the above documents and laws tell us that this subsidy that the government is allocating should reach the people in the best way. I would like to tell you that i have used the orders of dear guests in a relative manner, due to the cancellation of my program similarly, what is mentioned in the above laws in the field of health in the discussion of financing, both the general policies , the rules of the Development Program and the budget law, in fact, the focus of providing resources in the field of insurance is mentioned and its positive experience is also discussed. It is not the preferred width and its transfer from the originator to the destination. I mean that this method and policy is the right policy that we are offering. We transferred it from its origin to the destination of its benefits. In my opinion, compared to what was originally allocated, we definitely had more profit, more profit , the economy should have been simplified, we think the same. We will do it for the benefit of the people who are actually in debt. There is approximately one and a half billion euros this year, and the same amount can be provided to the people, the insured and the patients through insurance. In our opinion, the rules are more than the Current Situation we are in. How will this happen if this amount that the government is now subsidizing to the importer, now somehow to the producer, if it is allocated to you, how will it be better for the people . Let me tell you, first of all, that these are the people who are really in need, because there is a difference between in fact, the allocation of this subsidy, which means that only people who are in need, i. E. Defined in the line as patients, will get paid, which means that it will not be given to all citizens in a comprehensive way, this seems to me to be a kind of concentration. To the people who have the conditions of one or two insurance mechanisms according to the systems that we have in electronic form, it is possible to use headphones. Reaching people who are in need and receiving services will increase in real terms, and these facilities are now available in insurance organizations that can provide this service, exactly in what sector. In my opinion, the benefits are much more than what i am referring to now, considering that i am now honorable guests. He has medical goods and supplies from different authorities, for example , you can see that some of them are imported with 4, 200 and 30 currencies in the next hall, for example, with 28 and 500 currencies, or a half supply, or even a straw with a free currency, and it is separated in time. It is really not an easy task for the consumer, or at least the Monitoring Networks that currently exist do not have the possibility of this accurate monitoring, and perhaps, the product with the width of 420 has arrived, it may be available to the consumer at the price of free widths, and definitely when we give the subsidy to the developer and the Insurance Companies can do this , we will not see this difference anymore, and this benefit is actually for the benefit of the consumer. Will be. Dear mr. Rezaei, i thank you very much for your explanation, but i would like to share this with you in order to clarify the matter for the esteemed viewers. One type of product cannot be imported with different widths. The width assigned to the product is assigned to the patch Product Group if it is going to be a Product Group, it is based on the group cardiac stent there is one product, it is subject to width 42 and even if it is imported. If the customer wants this with a different width , in fact, he wants to say that i dont want the width of 420 at all , i want to bring this with the width of 28 and 500 , the system of the ministry of health does not allow him, the system of the central bank does not allow him, therefore , a product with the prices different, if it is explained in different places, this discrepancy should not be explained, but this discrepancy is not a systematic discrepancy. Yes and yes, anyone can do something wrong, and i would like to serve you according to the virtual warehouse that the ministry of health actually manages. All the medical equipment has now been created. Every product that enters into this virtual warehouse, as soon as it is cleared , it is automatically registered in this virtual warehouse as owned by that company, and this virtual warehouse controls how it is explained, so both the price and how to explain it. It is being controlled, of course, what im saying is not to say that 422 is good, im just explaining to you that these monitoring structures exist, the only risk is that these products will be taken out of the Treatment Networks illegally. It should be explained by people who are actually third parties or smuggling this reverse smuggling should be reversed because medical equipment is different from food, meat, etc. , and in fact, the virtual warehouse is registered and the explanation is controlled and has a barcode, a health code, and this is completely possible, i am not saying it is zero, but it is at least possible. It is possible for a series of products such as angioket and the like, which, for example, can be used to control the purchase volume of purchases. If this happens, but in the vast country of medical equipment smuggling , it is not a high number by any means, even 10 will happen because of the difference between 425 tomans. It is right to make the numbers as small as possible, because these differences are too many, 12 to 13 times 10. As for their orders, the number of devices has gradually increased, and you are correct in saying that it is decreasing, but their order is correct. He used to produce enough in the country, at that time when the price of land was 12 to 13 tomans, at the same time , he went to a company to offer 42, and he brought the same machine, that company was allowed to import because it was american , but the same product. 5 years ago, in fact, this was the basis of that companys device it didnt produce, that means selling to iran for devices that wont be produced in 5 years. This order of theirs happened little by little, then it increased to monitoring tools and decreased. Azad with a width of 420 times 12 times 13 times the difference is again a big number , which is a big number for me. Well, we did not get a percentage. For example, i do not insist that you see. I will give you an answer, mr. Rezaei. Yes, i will tell you that it is offered differently in the market. I did , it goes back to the defects in the supervisions, well, the reality the thing is that the smoke of this goes to peoples eyes and causes that now for any reason there are ups and downs in the establishment of width, which causes intersecting shortages for Service Providers and receivers. With less difficulty at the disposal of the importer or the manufacturer, these excuses will actually be solved, which is currently the case for the equipment. It is simple , it has a sinusoidal state, which means that you can see that some equipment is imported in some months , but not in some months, and this sinusoidal state causes the service that you want to be provided in some fields. Specialization has problems, for example, at one point you see a prosthesis is inserted, at another point it is not inserted, or if it is inserted, there is a problem in explaining it, this explanation is done in the same way as they say in the warehouse. In government and nonGovernment Centers , you can see that the same gender that is imported through, for example, the government , is not provided enough by the government, and this causes patients to have to use the same service if there are all the facilities to get the service in the government sector. The patient has to go to the private sector with multiple costs just because of the facilities and a pen part of the service, for example, the provision of medical equipment, should be shifted to the private sector, which is out of the patients power, and in general, the insurances do not have coverage in the private sector, or at least their coverage is not as good as the Public Sector, and these are the problems that exist now, i. E. You can objectively observe what i said, you may understand that there are defects in the monitoring departments, but it is a fact that it exists. That if we solve this problem from the beginning, it means that there will be no problem in importing, there will be no problem in production, and finally, those who receive the service, whether in the Public Sector or in the private sector should be able to use the subsidy provided by the government, they should be able to use that right , and the Insurance Companies should be the facilitators here and be able to exert their influence. Do you have any questions for them . Yes, mr. Rezaei, if of course. The reality of the Government Centers may not be explained sufficiently in the Government Centers, the reality is not like this, but this algebra will go in this direction when the Government Center takes a year and a half to take the companies money, and my reason is that they say that you are their money, but now i dont know the truth. Does he have it or not . Well, it is obvious that the poor, broke man can go and give his sex to the Government Center, so you get the money now you dont have 4 and 100. You say that if it goes from 28 to 500, i will be rich. I will give you this. Let me talk about the difference. We will give it to the Insurance Companies with the mathematical difference. Now, basically , i will explain the equipment. If we look at this equipment like medicine, this is the main problem of the food and drug organization. My name method does not distinguish between equipment and medicine, medicine is different from equipment, the main part of its work is service, it produces. You see, one medicine for one patient a person goes to the pharmacy and buys one. Do you know who and where you should give this subsidy . It is being produced in your medical equipment. That is, when he goes to the side , he takes a radiology picture. Do you want to pay that person . Can you do this . You have to make the service the service tariff, pay for the Higher Service tariff. One person. All these services should be improved, you should provide the services, you should have this at the disposal of the ministry. The ministry of health should include specialized committees, including insurances, specialized associations, Vice President of treatment, associations of Manufacturing Companies and associations of companies the importer and any other human being who can sit in this opinion should sit down and decide for each issue of the Laboratory Kit, if the price increases by 7 times, that means from 4. 200 to 28. 500, it will be 7. 5 times. How much is the Laboratory Kit that defines its effect . ​​dont think that it can be done in two days. In general, our condition for this work is whether this work has been done. May your government laboratories not go bankrupt, but has anyone gone and measured this, as it cannot be said, mr. Speed. Question. Lets clear it, lets say that from tomorrow there will be 28 and 500 people, this is a very difficult job, the medical System Organization must also be involved, this is a difficult job, no one is willing to do this difficult job, everyone says, sir , give it your best, keep in mind that we are at the bottom of our chain instead of chain, we should explain the word network, so let mr. Rezai answer the first part. My explanation is brief. That when we say that we will pay the difference in the technical fee of the same laboratory that you gave as an example , we calculate the excess cost of the case in the technical component and in the deviation it will be brought under our title and the difference in width means that calculating these is not a difficult task for insurances and all of these are calculated, which means that it will actually be a part of the service and this amount is not based on us. It is very strong for calculations, but it is a gold insurance. He always lowers the price. There is another series of embellishments. Private hospitals, manufacturers, importers everyone should sit down and do all the medical things about these calculations, because it is too broad, this is what mr. Reza is doing. I would like to point out how much i should give you to the Insurance Companies, my producer , because we cannot give it all to the insurance or give it all to another part of the program that we have. They also agree that this 420 should be deleted, because they mentioned it several times, they all agree that 420 should be deleted. The plan we have is that we are going to divide it. In some places, the ministry of health. He has his own mechanism, he said, the discussion of call tenders , pricing, and competition, and let him decide , that is, our board is our proposal, the board, and the meaning of the bid. They have nothing to do with the importer at all. The importer has nothing to do with how many dollars it is, sir, how much is it in dollars, the price he gives, for example , he gives a price of 100 euros and receives the same, but the sale is made through the board minus the offer. With this method , first of all, there is a question of competition. Drop 20 to 30 100 prices decrease due to competition, and the argument is that the dramatic increase in needs means that a hospital in any province is interested in having a field for itself, for example, because of this, there is more than the need. He asks him, we suggest that a part of it goes to the board and minus the foreign currency , and a part goes to the insurance of mr. Rezaei shamandi. It should be clear that this is 94 or 100 or any combination of changes in rial rate and currency how much will it be . See, when you convert the wish to rials and convert it, it says that i have to give so many rials. The recipient of this rial is not just insurance, but the recipient of this rial is the university of medical sciences. There are and there are networks in his city , they want to settle this , they can do anything with it, the Previous Industries have also shown the same , they give money for nonmedical equipment. In this network, it should be explained that it must be starred, this money cannot not be starred. The second issue is that this money must be starred on time and in time. I will be a supporter, especially the supporter of the people, and it is not supposed that there will be any disruption in the distribution system, but it is supposed to act as an intermediary in changing the origin of the destination, that is, from the beginning of the chain to the end of the chain, and this is an action that requires the cooperation of several the device is side by side and we are trying to be one of the components of this chain, god willing. 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