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Biggest star in a special take at ten. So lots to get through. Gary lineker at 10 00. But next up is five years of starmer really the answer for britain . Really the answer for britain . Well, my answer is coming after the headlines with Aaron Armstrong. Armstrong. Very good evening to you. Im Aaron Armstrong in the gb newsroom. Angela rayner is newsroom. Angela rayner is expected to be interviewed under caution as part of a council tax investigation. The deputy labour leader is understood to have been contacted by Manchester Police concerning the sale of her house in 2015, amid claims she might not have paid the right amount of tax and that she may have made a false declaration about her primary residence on the electoral register. Reports in a number of newspapers say shell be invited to attend a Police Station voluntarily, rather than being arrested. Ms rayner has said arrested. Ms rayner has said shes confident the rules have been followed at all times. The uk says it would support palestine gaining full member status in the United Nations when the time is right. The comments by the Deputy Foreign secretary come as israel has launched fresh attacks on northern gaza in an effort to prevent hamas from regrouping. Its three months since the idf claimed it had taken control of the area. Meanwhile, tens of thousands of palestinians continue to flee rafah in the south as israel prepares to launch a major offensive. Launch a major offensive. Earlier, hamas posted a video claiming the british israeli hostage Nadav Popplewell has died after being injured in an airstrike last month. The government says its urgently seeking more information. Deputy foreign secretary Andrew Mitchell told gb news its not unfeasible to suggest a palestinian vote in the un could happen before the conflict is resolved. Resolved. It is right to recognise palestine as a state at the United Nations, at the right time, and that doesnt have to be at the end of the process for peace, it could be as part of those negotiations. And britain will support palestine becoming a state at the un when we feel the time is right. That isnt now , but it may, as i say, be now, but it may, as i say, be before the end of the peace piocess. Process. At least seven people have been killed and 17 injured, including two children, after an apartment block collapsed in russia, state media says fragments of a Ukrainian Missile , which were downed by russias air defence systems, landed on the building in the city of belgorod. Ukraines regularly targeted that region. Its just 20 miles from the border between the countries. Rescue efforts the countries. Rescue efforts were hampered when the roof also collapsed, with rubble covering emergency crews. Meanwhile Vladimir Putin is set to replace his defence minister with the ukraine war into its third year. The russian president has proposed removing longtime ally Sergey Shoygu after 12 years in the role. Hes to be replaced by andrei belousov, a former deputy Prime Minister who specialises in economics. In a surprise shake up a sergey lavrov, the countrys veteran foreign minister, though, will remain in his job. Thousands more parents in england will be able to apply for 15 hours Free Childcare from today. Parents of children who are older than nine months from september can now apply for support. It brings the age of eligible children down even further, with the entitlement for two year olds beginning last month. Parents must earn a minimum of the equivalent of 16 hours a week at minimum wage, but less than £100,000 a year to apply. And two skydivers have apply. And two skydivers have become the first to navigate their way through tower bridge wearing wingsuits. Their way through tower bridge wearing wingsuits. While some wearing wingsuits. While some incredible footage here as the pair jumped from incredible footage here as the pairjumped from a helicopter and flew down over the thames and flew down over the thames and underneath the bridge between two the towers at around 152mph before successfully landing the stunt followed some extensive training in oxfordshire, which involved the use of cranes to simulate the structure. Ill be back with structure. Ill be back with more a little bit later, but you can get more now on all of our stories. Gb news alerts are available by scanning the qr code on your screen. Thats it for the moment. Now back to. Mark. Free childcare from tomorrow. Free childcare from tomorrow. Ill see you in the pub. Welcome to mark dolan tonight. In the big story, as the foreign secretary, David Cameron accuses labour of standing for nothing and of naked opportunism , has and of naked opportunism, has the Natalie Elphicke defection backfired . Also today is the backfired . Also today is the 25th anniversary of devolution. My 25th anniversary of devolution. My mark meets guest is lisa cameron, who defected from the snp to the tories. Ill be asking her whether its time to bnng asking her whether its time to bring scotland back into westminster and bring an end to this devolution nightmare. And in a take at ten special in just one hours time , gary lineker one hours time, gary lineker has spoken out on the conflict in gaza. This divisive figure is making a mockery of so called bbc neutrality. Ill be dealing bbc neutrality. Ill be dealing with the organisations biggest star in no Uncertain Terms in a take ten special a reacting to those stories and lots more. Tonight we have Edwina Currie live in the studio, neil parish and Paul Richards. Plus the most important part of the show, your views , they come straight to my views, they come straight to my laptop. Gbnews. Com forward slash your say and this show has a golden rule. We dont do boring. Not on my watch. I just wont have it. A big two hours to come. Lineker at ten. But we start with my big opinion. I start with my big opinion. I dont want to labour. The point , dont want to labour. The point, but sir keir starmer will likely be our next Prime Minister. And while the tories have made a horlicks of the last few years, and whilst i myself have voted labourin and whilst i myself have voted labour in the past and i dont rule out doing so in the future, let me tell you that five years of socialism is not the answer. Of socialism is not the answer. Take a look at just one policy. Labour was petty and spiteful. Plan to price poorer families out of an elite education by adding vat to private school fees. This disastrous and fees. This disastrous and damaging policy hasnt even begun, and yet its already doing damage. Begun, and yet its already doing damage. Mish. The times doing damage. Mish. The Times Newspaper report that the number of children joining private schools has dropped by the largest proportion in more than a decade, as parents make the judgement , they will no longer judgement, they will no longer be able to afford these higher fees. This exodus is expected to grow. Now, you could say that these people are in a decent income bracket, so tough luck. But heres the problem. Where are those kids going to go . These aspirational middle class families will instead buy properties in affluent areas and take up pupil places at high quality state schools in the pubuc quality state schools in the public sector. This will deprive poor kids whose families cannot afford to live in affluent areas, from going, for example, to a top grammar or selective school. Poorer kids who dont live nearby or who dont have access to expensive tutors to pass the entrance exams, will get shunted to their local bash street comprehensive of academic experts have also said that this cruel policy will lead to some private schools closing, at which point a flood of these children will need to be educated by the state. And this comes at a cost of almost £10,000 a year to the uk taxpayer per pupil. And what about the impact on little johnny or little jane being dragged out of their school and away from their friends and the School Community because of a shallow political policy designed to throw red meat to the left of starmers party, new state schools will likely need to be built at a cost of billions, which is why labours argument that somehow this will be a money spinner is hollower than an easter egg. Well, this ludicrous policy of taxing education is the brainchild of the leader of the opposition , the leader of the opposition, sir keir starmer, who, with a brass neck wider than mike tysons, said this week that he wanted to get away from gesture politics. Well he is the king of gesture politics with his ridiculous posturing during the pandemic, calling for lockdowns every ten minutes at his pretend press conferences where he tried to look statesmanlike with his endless u turns. This is a guy that has more positions than the kama sutra, with his mental gymnastics over whether only women have a cervix. And of course , most egregiously, when course, most egregiously, when he took the knee to the divisive and discredited cause that is black lives matter, his so called plan to stop the boats, announced on friday, is another empty gesture, putting starmer in charge of stopping the boats is like handing over the boats is like handing over the nations blood supplies to count dracula. This guys policy to crush the criminal gangs is really just a souped up version of a policy being pursued by the current government , of a policy being pursued by the current government, and one which is failing as it is on the continent , because starmer which is failing as it is on the continent, because starmer did not get the memo that these people traffickers are mobile, theyre ruthless and they have theyre ruthless and they have the internet. The king of the internet. The king of gesture politics will axe the rwanda plan, even if it works, even if it works. Wow. The brilliant andrew neil, formerly of this parish, writing in the mail newspaper this weekend, has dismissed labours plans as merely the creation of a new quango. He wrote a Government Agency to add to the plethora already dotted all over the place of British State bureaucracy. The people smugglers must be quaking in their shoes. The slow march to a their shoes. The slow march to a Labour Government with a potential landslide, which will give them the ability to permanently alter the fabric of this country, may be inevitable , this country, may be inevitable, but its regrettable too. The rwanda plan is already working. Ask the irish government. There ask the irish government. There is now momentum in the economy. Inflation is falling faster than harry kane in the penalty box. And according to the head of the office for National Statistics the economy is going and i quote gang busters. Weve got the gang busters. Weve got the highest growth in the whole of the g7 , ahead of the united the g7, ahead of the United States of italy , of france and states of italy, of france and of germany. What will labour do . Boost union power, which means more strikes . They will burden employers with extra costs and red tape and yield to the union barons. Inflation busting, unaffordable wage demands. The unaffordable wage demands. The tories have discredited themselves with Boris Johnson yielding to the prophets of doom at sage in order to destroy the country with those ruinous and failed lockdowns. And we all know about liz trusss mini budget and her short premiership, which failed to outlive a salad. But weve now finally got a decent Prime Minister who we are about to consign to the dustbin of political history. Something, political history. Something, mark my words, we will come to regret. Yes, the tories have regret. Yes, the tories have been awful, but replacing sunak with starmer is like replacing your less than perfect boyfriend with someone. Even worse, someone with tattoos , a someone with tattoos, a motorbike and who still lives with his mother. Britain motorbike and who still lives with his mother. Britain has got many problems, but the answer is not a starmer led Labour Government. I hate to break it to you, but history shows socialism doesnt work. Unfortunately, people have short memories. Your reaction memories. Your reaction gbnews. Com yoursay your say. Ill get to your thoughts in just a moment. But first, tonights top pundits. Former tonights top pundits. Former government minister Edwina Currie, ex tory tory mp and farmer neil parish. And last but farmer neil parish. And last but not least, top labour insider Paul Richards. Great to have all three of you with me, edwina. Ladies first. Welcome to the studio. Looking in very fine fettle. The countrys got fettle. The countrys got problems. Five years of labour is not the answer. I was delighted to hear the nice things that you at last said about rishi sunak. Well, yes, i think hes probably underrated. The bottom line is the tories have made a horlicks of running the country for the last few years. But finally theres a grown up in charge. Hes on his way out. My argument is be careful what you wish for. Well, thats absolutely right. And one of the key things that pops, you didnt put a lot of emphasis on is what of Labour Governments done in the past. And theyre still talking about doing lots of stuff about workers rights. You know, workers rights. You know, theres loads and loads and loads of workers rights and hardly any rights for employers. But what you will what we will find is that they will agree to any pay demand they will. Theyre going to abolish their contracts, which i think is a shame because it suits a lot of people to have them. And they will make sure that everybody is if theyre on strike, then they were going to get the money that they asked for. It doesnt actually improve the productivity issue that were facing as a country, and we will find that we look back and then we say, goodness me, its has cost us an awful lot more. Our taxes have gone up. What have we got for it . And the answer is zilch. Zilch. Paul richards, i will grant you that keir starmer is ten times better than Jeremy Corbyn, but starmer is no tony blair. Its a low bar. And of course, starmer campaigned for corbyn to be Prime Minister. The issue is that starmer is no tony blair. Hes not aspirational. Hes not going to have low taxes , hes not going to support business in the way that new labour did. Labour did. I dont think thats fair at all, actually. If you look at labours plans for business, theyre robust. Theyre saying pro worker but also pro union. And you can be that. Also pro union. And you can be that. And then also pro business that. And then also pro business as well. Hes talking about a very high level of growth in the economy, which will benefit business. What the growth weve got now i mean its working brilliantly. Lets keep this government very, very anaemic. Lets face it. I mean it. I mean , it. I mean , the it. I mean , the ons are i mean, the ons are predicting potentially 2. 5 of growth this year, which would be higher than america. Well, and youre suddenly believing all the experts from the ons, you know, after years of slagging them off. So, you know, well, theyve certainly always underestimated our potential havent they . I think its very anaemic. And you do need a kick start on growth. And thats one thing that labour is promising, but also investment in the Public Services as well. Everyone knows the nhs is on its knees. You cant get a dentist, you cant see a doctor. The roads are full of potholes, the trains dont work. You know, we do need a bit a kick start in some of those Public Services too. And thats what labour will offer. But most of all, i think people are just desperate for a change. Even if they think theyre going to just take a gamble on labour. It cant be any worse than the last few years. Okay, neil parish definitely a gamble, isnt it, on labour . Because what are we actually going to get because we. Edwina currie is quite right. All these employment laws, all this extra cost, especially Small Businesses that will hit them hugely, and also not being able to dismiss anybody , all of these to dismiss anybody, all of these things are horrendous. And you take the local elections a couple of weeks ago, yes, labour did pretty well and the tories did pretty well and the tories did badly, but they did nothing like as well as the opinion polls said they should. Theres no doubt theres an anti tory feeling out there. But in the local elections anybody voted anything but tory . They didnt particularly vote labour. And so i think youll find its not all oven i think youll find its not all over. The game is still there because the economy is improving. Theyve got a chance in september. If the economy has improved, Interest Rates will have reduced and there will be some tax reductions. And so therefore people will have perhaps a little bit more of a choice, because i think what theyve got to do is put the past behind them, because theres no doubt with the problems with boris, then with the when with the liz truss economic axe. That didnt quite work out, did they, at all. And then weve got now rishi sunak who, and jeremy hunt who have actually turned the economy round. And i think people perhaps will not jump in and say lets risk labour. Paul , i lets risk labour. Paul, i voted. Go on. You make your point. Thats great truth in that. Thats great truth in that. Actually, i do think the next election is a done deal, and i dont believe the polls for a minute either. I think labours still got work to do. Neil kinnock said yesterday. You know, the country has not fallen in love with. Well hes hes hes been there before. Thats absolutely right. So the modernisation, the modernisation of the labour party has to continue. We have to have that conversation, has to have that conversation, has to carry on and we cant take any votes for granted. Any votes for granted. But the one thing, the one thing, mark, the tories have got to do is, for goodness sake, theyve got to stop shooting each other, pull together , get each other, pull together, get behind. This is the point. This is the point, paul. This is the point, paul. The tories , the tories. The tories, the tories. The tories, the tories. We can win. We can win. But the tories are horribly divided. This is a great divided. This is a great opportunity for labour, who looked like a tight unit at the moment. Moment. Yeah, theres a discipline and, you know, whatever you say about starmer, hes got a determination to win and take us over the line, which we havent had for ten years. But you, but you. But you, but you. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And this doesnt mean the last word because the clocks against us. This desire for change. Yeah. Is the desire for a magic wand. The issues that face countries like ours are substantial ones. And they need real application. They dont just need edwina. Your lot. Your lot have had your lot. Your lot have had 14 years. Surely it is time for a fresh, fresh set of voices, a fresh set of ideas. Thats what they said back in 92. And thats what they said back in 92. And we got another few years and we did very well. Well, there you go. Listen, well get to more of my pundits thoughts in just a moment. But next up in the big story, as the foreign secretary, David Cameron , accuses labour of David Cameron, accuses labour of standing for nothing and of naked opportunism , has the naked opportunism, has the Natalie Elphicke defection backfired . Well debate that backfired . Well debate that next. With two big political players okay, folks, ill have a look at your messages. Very shortly. But its your messages. Very shortly. But wsfime your messages. Very shortly. But its time for the big story. And the foreign secretary, David Cameron, has lashed out at labour following the defection of tory mp Natalie Elphicke to sir keirs party, accusing labour of opportunism and standing for nothing given Natalie Elphicke staunchly right wing views and her support for the rwanda plan , and reports in the rwanda plan, and reports in the rwanda plan, and reports in the mail on sunday today that she allegedly sought to influence the outcome of her ex husbands sex assault trial. Has this latest defection backfired on sir keir starmer . Lets get the views of conservative mp and former minister of for state skills, apprenticeships and Higher Education robert halfon. Robert, lovely to see you again. Who could blame Natalie Elphicke for ditching the tories . Shes leaving a sinking ship. Well, i think , i think its well, i think, i think its one of those, events which is a bit too clever. By half. I mean, Natalie Elphicke is far more right wing than i will ever be. And you know, this idea that shes had a kind of damascene conversion to become a socialist is sort of a bizarre. Its very sad that shes chosen to do this. I think, you know, i will always be part of the conservative party. Its like a family. It may have its difficulties, it may be dysfunctional from time to time, but you stick with your family through thick and thin and, i think that, the public will see. See it for what it is. Its quite cynical. Its quite opportunistic , but its also too opportunistic, but its also too clever by half the labour party and seems to have united most of the Labour Parliamentary Party against this defection. Youve also lost lee anderson to reform uk. Ill grant you. He had lost the tory whip. Is there a problem within the tory machine . Why are so many moving machine . Why are so many moving on from the party, others not standing at the next election . Standing at the next election . Well, its also worth remembering that we had a defection to the conservative party by lisa cameron from the Scottish National party. So these happen, these kind of things happen from time to time and people will make decisions. There are, you know, maybe, perhaps some genuine individual whose views genuinely change over a number of years who decide that, the Opposition Party might be for them. But Natalie Elphicke, certainly i wouldnt describe as, as one of those one of those people. Of those one of those people. Of course, weve got difficult times at the moment. No one denies, denies that. But as i say, when times are difficult, you stick with your political family. Family. You mentioned, of course, a very famous defection, which is lisa cameron mp, who left the snp to join the conservatives. Shes in the studio, shes my mark meets guest in just a few minutes time. If i can. Robert, lets bring in top labour insider and one of my pundits tonight, Paul Richards and paul. The former labour leader, neil kinnock was none too happy at the news of elphicks defection and many in the labour ranks are not happy to have such a staunch right winger on board. Was this a mistake by starmer . A mistake by starmer . I dont think it was a mistake. I mean, he would have calculated starmer that it would do some damage to his left, but he also knew it would appeal to people to his right and the whole of the optics of this is to say, look, if you voted tory in 2019, we dont blame you. But in 2019, we dont blame you. But its okay now to vote labour in 2024. The defection is part of a much bigger story , a bigger much bigger story, a bigger narrative which says people can switch now. Their votes and come over to the labour column. So thats what this is really all about. And of course, its going to upset some labour mps and even somebody of the calibre of neil kinnock, for whom i have enormous admiration. But it wasnt aimed at them. Wasnt aimed at them. Robert halfon will there be further defections from the conservative party to reform , conservative party to reform, perhaps to the lib dems and to labour . Well, can i just respond to that . I think, you know, when you unite people like jess phillips, neil kinnock and Zarah Sultana , both mps from the sultana, both mps from the moderate wings of the party and from sort of left wing corbynista element against this move by Natalie Elphicke. I think it suggests that the keir starmer has made a big mistake. I think its an act of complacency. Theyre already looking like theyre measuring the curtains at number 10. I think that is disastrous. We were talking about neil kinnock. I remember when he did that rally in sheffield, when i was a student and when they thought, that it was all over and they were going to enter downing street. And it suggests to me that the labour party are beginning to make mistakes by having people like Natalie Elphicke in them that have unhed elphicke in them that have united much of the labour party against her admittance, her defection, but who knows what colleagues are going to do, i hope not, you know, as i say, whatever the difficulties of my party, ive joined since i was 14 years old, and i would say if anyone if the conservatives were doing a good job, if rishi sunak was doing a good job, you wouldnt have these defections. You wouldnt be worrying about future defections and begging your colleagues to stay. Begging your colleagues to stay. Well, as i say, i think defections happen , all the time. Defections happen, all the time. You know, weve had a defection from the snp to the, to the conservatives. These things sadly happen, but when parties are in trouble, i think that, since the local election shows the vast majority of the conservative Parliamentary Party and the activists and i spoke to many of my activists in harlow on saturday, they want to come together. They want to focus on the economy. The £900 insurance tax cut, for example, the hundreds of pounds extra going to pensioners, the fact that the economy is back in growth and they want us to get come together more of the vast majority of the Parliamentary Party political, the whole of the conservative party come together and try and win that election. Paul richards, you were shaking your head when we were heanng shaking your head when we were hearing there from robert halfon, his criticism of labour and their double standards. Well, the thing i was shaking my head at mark was the fact that he suggested that were measuring up the curtains. I have to say theres zero complacency. I think theres a really strong recognition. Weve got to win every vote. But the affection of this particular tory is a, you know, its a symbol of a bigger shift in the tectonic plates in our politics, which is people are now looking afresh at labour. We have not sealed the deal. The election is not won until its won. But things are shifting in our direction. And thats all. Thats all. Its all about. Thats all. Its all about. Its a symbol of an individual. Its a symbol of an individual. Its a symbol of an individual mp who was unhappy for one reason or another, and for one reason or another, and for opportunistic reasons, for somewhat cynical reasons, has decided to join the Opposition Party. However, robert, is this not adding to a narrative, a perception that the tories have thrown the towel in . Youve got high profile figures like Nadhim Zahawi saying i wont be standing at the next election. We know why its because hes not going to win his seat. Its game over for the tories, isnt it . Well, im actually standing down myself, but thats after 24 years, ten years as a candidate, 14 years as an mp. I love harlow very much. I have a very good chance of retaining, retaining the seat at the election were i to stand. But people have been. People like nadine have been in for a 14 odd years and he fought seats before that. You know, its inevitable that people go, its inevitable that people go, its nothing to do with whether or not we are going to win or lose as a party. Sometimes you just feel it in your bones. Youve been there for a long time. Its time to take a new chapter in life. I dont think thatis chapter in life. I dont think that is unreasonable. There are labour mps stepping down, stepping down as well. Okay well, listen, last word goes to you, paul. I mean, if try, i would say. But theres nearly a hundred tory mps who are deserting their polishing up their cvs before the elections even being called. And i dont think thats because theyve just come to the natural end of their careers. Its because im afraid theyve seen the writing on the wall. Okay. Briefly, paul, a quick a quick one before i come back to you as well. Robert, let me ask you, paul, is it entirely wise that someone who joins the labour ranks thinks that labour has no plan to stop the boats . Well, she thought that then, but obviously shes changed her mind. And, you know, you are allowed to change your mind in politics. You said to yourself you voted labour in the past and you voted labour in the past and you might in the future. So you know, people can be on one at a time. Paul, finish your point. Paul, finish your point. People are on a journey all the time. And she said that shes now changed her mind and shes now changed her mind and she supports labours plan. You have to take that at face value. Why not . There you go. Can you take that at face value . Robert halfon i dont think. Robert halfon i dont think. I mean, she was putting out leaflets only a few days ago. Apparently in her constituency about, that, she didnt support the labour party. She is a very right wing conservative, far more right wing than than me. Theidea more right wing than than me. The idea that shes suddenly become a socialist is laughable. But i wish her well. People have their own consciences and make their own consciences and make their own consciences and make their own individual decisions. Their own individual decisions. She wont be trusted in the labour party, just as she wont be any more trusted by her old colleagues. Robert, youre going to be a great loss to parliament. Do come and see us in the studio once you have retired. Youll once you have retired. Youll always be welcome. Robert halfon there, conservative mp and former government minister. And my thanks also to Paul Richards , my thanks also to Paul Richards, who is a top labour insider who returns shortly. Next up as returns shortly. Next up as several high profile figures attack last nights show for highly sexual and inappropriate content , highly sexual and inappropriate content, supposedly for a family audience. Has eurovision become audience. Has eurovision become a sick satanic sex fest . Well be joined by a eurovision icon next. Britains got problems. But his britains got problems. But his five years of socialism. The answer that was the topic of my big opinion. Well, lots of emails and messages coming in. Gbnews. Com yoursay this from andrew, who is a gb news member. God help us, says andrew labour, as always , will destroy our as always, will destroy our wonderful nation. The useless tories have enabled this also. Julie, just chipping in on that news that Free Childcare starts tomorrow. Julie says what a shame that mothers are being forced to leave their babies with strangers and go to work to pay with strangers and go to work to pay tax. The family and especially motherhood, is not as valued these days. So sad folks, valued these days. So sad folks, keep those messages coming. How about this . Ill just finish on about this . Ill just finish on a message from jane. Good evening jane, how are you . Thank you for your message. Jane says shes also a gb news member. Well worth the money if the conservatives adopted real conservative policies, then they might be more popular. They should ditch net zero, stop the boats and stop being a nanny state. Oh, and raise the tax threshold. There you go, jane. For Prime Minister, i say lots more to come, including my take at ten, a gary lineker special. You wont want to miss it, but last nights eurovision saw switzerland win the top prize. But several leading figures blasted the tone and content of the show with a very good friend of mine, the star of the popular media channel talk, Julia Hartley brewer , tweeting ive hartley brewer, tweeting ive watched eurovision for years. It used to be fun family viewing, but many of last nights acts were highly sexual, with some blatant sadomasochism or s m. Blatant sadomasochism or s m. You dont have to be Mary Whitehouse to be aghast at the pornification of our culture. Its a long way from bucks fizz. Its a long way from bucks fizz. Meanwhile, respected trade unionist and gb news star paul embery said two bearded men dressed only in basques, thongs and leather boots, dancing a salacious dance on prime time saturday evening telly across europe with millions of kids watching. All totally normal, he says with irony. The west is in safe hands. Says with irony. The west is in safe hands. So has eurovision become a sick, satanic sex fest . Easy for you to say. Lets speak to a former eurovision star who is brilliant, representing the uk in 2000, nicki french. Here she is in action. Dont play that song again , reminding me of that song again, reminding me of how it used to be. Dont play that song again. Dont play that song again. Dont play that song again. Now that is what i call a performance dos. Nicky, great to performance dos. Nicky, great to see you looking so well. Was see you looking so well. Was last night . Was last nights show appropriate for a family audience . A lot of people thought not, lets be honest, there were an awful lot. I mean, theres always going to be the young ladies who, lets be honest, theyve got great figures, but i mean, the slovenian ones, particularly in, like, just a body stocking, and very little else. You know, i remember, in my eurovision year that , the my eurovision year that, the great departed terry wogan once said , you can see what she had said, you can see what she had for breakfast. And it was kind of like that with quite a few of them last night. You know, on one hand, theyre young girls and theyve got fantastic figures. They want to show them off. Of course they do, but i mean, to me, sort of being sexy is the suggestion of stuff, you know , you dont sort of show know, you dont sort of show everything you hint, and, it did seem , i have to say. And. Yeah, seem, i have to say. And. Yeah, everybody calls me a prude , so. Everybody calls me a prude, so. So im probably not the right person, but, it did seem rather overtly sexual last night. I overtly sexual last night. I mean, olly, bless him, he he was true to his word because when he first announced that he was doing eurovision for us, he said, im going to make it the gayest eurovision performance even gayest eurovision performance ever. So, you know, he didnt. He didnt let us down on that. Let me say, you know, thats not a problem at all. Im the ultimate libertarian. Sleep with who . You want to. My total music hero is elton john, the most famous gay man in the world. But he wouldnt. He wouldnt cavort around in in hot pants like that , you know, showing off his is nether regions. Is there an attempt to normalise this kind of stuff . Do you think , does it of stuff . Do you think, does it feel like social engineering . I mean, Julia Hartley brewer said, some of it seems like sadomasochism , you know, whips sadomasochism, you know, whips and leather and all that stuff. There were a few, i mean, spain and arts and, you know, there were a few like that. And a lot of them do this sort of gyrating now, the sort of sexual gyrating which that turns me off at the best of times. But, i turns me off at the best of times. But, i just, i think im times. But, ijust, i think im hoping that it was just a fluke that they all did it this year. You know, in in sam ryders yean you know, in in sam ryders year, the spanish entry had, like, you know, sort of boots right up to her thighs and, left nothing to the imagination with her outfit, but there werent as many. So lets hope that it was many. So lets hope that it was just a fluky thing and, you know. Yeah, all the different ones that were showing very much of their of their bodies , it was of their of their bodies, it was just this year, hopefully. I just this year, hopefully. I mean, i said weeks ago, give me someone that just sings a really good song with a really good voice , perhaps in a long frock, voice, perhaps in a long frock, and ill vote for them. And i have to say, my vote was for france last night. I mean, just the most amazing song and singer, and it didnt need any of these gimmicks. And thats what we need to impress upon next years artists, is that you dont need all these gimmicks to show off all your flesh. Show off all your flesh. Well, thats it, thats it. Well, thats what you did in the year 2000. You showed your music and your singing voice, not your bum. Lets bring in Edwina Currie. If we can, nikki. And also neil parish. Edwina, i dont know if you caught much of eurovision, but do you think some of that material that weve just played is appropriate for a family audience in the evening . There was a lot of bum on show, definitely. I was counting, i think i got up to about 47 cheeks at the point at which i went and poured myself another glass of wine, and Graham Norton was breathing hard to put it like that. It certainly had a lot of sexuality and not that many songs. I thought much of the music was very mare, but then, you know, im liverpool, beatles generation, and i think actually the way you sing matters more than the way you wobble, whatever bits youve got. But that said, it was highly entertaining. Great fun. Yeah, well, there you go. So yeah, well, there you go. So edwina doesnt seem too bothered. Neil parish, what do you think . Do you want sort of ten year olds watching this because eurovision is not an adult show. Its aimed at the whole family. Yeah. I mean, i think it just needs to go back to singing and we dont need as much dancing and flaunting themselves around. And i just wonder whether. Eurovision. Eurovision song contest is just sort of going a little bit out of fashion, i think. And i think the trouble is theyve just got to basically sex it up in order to try and get the audiences. And i think we just need to be careful on it. And i think its a shame. And of course, there were the protests about. Whether the protests about. Whether the israeli singer should be there and all of this political stuff going on around it as well. So i think i think generally speaking, i didnt actually watch it, well, how do you know . But ive seen, ive seen enough clips and reader to know exactly what happened. And so a friend has told her, my friend has told him, there he goes. Him, there he goes. Listen, folks, i wish we had longer nikki french do come back and see us again soon. Let me tell you that nikkis excellent album of eurovision covers is out now, and, its a real lovely, lovely tunes on that record. So do check it out. Its simply called eurovision and nikki will see you soon. Of course. Edwina and neil will be back shortly. Now, in a take at ten special in just 20 minutes time. Gary lineker has spoken out on the conflict in gaza. This divisive figure is making a mockery of so called bbc neutrality. Ill be dealing with the organisation biggest star in no Uncertain Terms in a take ten special. But next up today is the 25th anniversary of devolution. My mark meets guest lisa cameron, defected from the snp to the tories. Ill be asking her whether its time to bnng asking her whether its time to bring scotland back into westminster and end this devolution nightmare. Thats next. A take it ten special. And gary lineker in 15 minutes time. But now mark meets and today marks the 25th anniversary of devolution. With the handing down of powers from westminster to edinburgh and the establishment of a Scottish Parliament in holyrood. So is scotland all the better . For it is independence now scotlands destiny or has this project in Self Government failed . The people of scotland . Who better to ask than lisa cameron mp, member of parliament for east kilbride, strathaven and lesmahagow . Im going to need some help with that one. She defected from the snp to the conservatives in october of last year, citing a toxic and bullying culture inside scotlands governing party. Doctor lisa cameron, welcome to mark dolan tonight. Thank you so much. Ive been practising that town all afternoon. There you go. Im not safe to go there now, am i, listen , its lovely now, am i, listen, its lovely to see you. Thank you for coming in on a sunday night back in the day, all those years ago, what first attracted you to the independence cause . Well, i mean, i think it was quite a centrist party initially led by alex salmond , seemed to led by alex salmond, seemed to be, focused on economics at the time. That was his background, unfortunately , since then moved unfortunately, since then moved further left, when Nicola Sturgeon took over, then even further left, giving almost Jeremy Corbyn a run for his money. When humza yousaf took over , and i think over that over, and i think over that time, a lack of competence and, growing mistrust from the public, has really meant that nationalism has become a bit of a busted flush. There because, of course, at the time, the snp were an alternative give to labour an alternative to the tories , scotlands scotland, the tories, scotlands scotland, the people of scotland wanted, you know, policies that worked for them, not for the whole of the uk. And so therefore the snp was an attractive option. Well, i mean, as i say, it was quite a centrist party and the whole purpose was to try and attract people from both the left and right of politics. I grew up in a conservative home. My mum and dad are conservatives, so it wasnt something usual in my household. But i think, you know, many, many families since the time of the referendum found that nationalism has become very toxic and actually divided a lot of families along the way. Its very sad, isnt it . What ultimately led you to leave the party . What was the trigger point . Because youve talked about a culture of bullying and about a culture of bullying and a toxic atmosphere. A toxic atmosphere. Yeah, absolutely. I mean, there were many issues being a christian in the party. It was very difficult. I mean, i think most people have seen kate forbes journey in that regard. Forbes journey in that regard. And i had similar difficulties, also had, issues in terms of i worked as a psychologist for many years before coming into parliament, worked with very many victims of abuse, at one stage the party were talking about welcoming back a perpetrator, who had, been alleged had harassed a member of staff in the parliament and who had admitted that, and i felt that, you know, we should be helping the victim. That was my training. Thats what i felt was the right thing to do , and, you the right thing to do, and, you know, i had mentioned in a meeting i feel we should be helping the victim later found out that i was the only mp who had, come forward to help the victim , and certainly felt that victim, and certainly felt that i was very much, shunned by colleagues after that , as colleagues after that, as though, it wasnt the partys, direction at that point. In direction at that point. In fact, in that meeting, we, you know, we were told to basically be welcoming the perpetrator back, which didnt sit well with me as a psychologist. And, of course, weve seen other aspects of that attitude and that approach in regards to trans rights , perhaps a low trans rights, perhaps a low point for scotland, which was the accommodation of a double rapist in a scottish womens prison on the watch of Nicola Sturgeon . Well, i mean absolutely. I feel like, you know, i actually did assessments in prisons prior to coming into parliament. I worked as a psychologist in and out of prisons doing risk assessments. And i know that in womens prisons are so many womens prisons are so many women who have experienced trauma and abuse , and the last trauma and abuse, and the last thing that they need is to feel even more vulnerable in the situation in that, you know, they would have been placed with isla bryson been there. And again, it you know, i felt the party had become very autocratic, wasnt listening to elected members, you know. What did you think of Nicola Sturgeon as a person . Did you sturgeon as a person . Did you have a relationship with her because she was a formidable figure, wasnt she . Well, i mean, i did you like her. I didnt have a particular relationship with nicola because i was based mainly down in london and she was up in holyrood in edinburgh, i would have said that i, i was in when i started in the team led by alex salmond. I had more of a conducive, relationship in terms of the support that he gave me at the time, but no , i didnt at the time, but no, i didnt have a particularly Good Relationship with nicola in that i didnt see very much of her. And actually, when i experienced troubles in the snp, no one reached out to me. You know, from the very top, all the way down in terms of personally being there to support. Ive got to say this to me has echoes of rosie duffields treatment in the labour party, and keir starmer has been on television saying hes got a good working relationship with her. And she was asked on twitter how is that possible . And she joked telepathy. There seem to be parallels there, obviously the snp have denied these allegations of bullying and a toxic culture. And of course they would point to their huge electoral success. Theyve been aheadin electoral success. Theyve been ahead in the polls for years now and have dominated scottish politics for a long, long time. And they will defend their record. And what about your move record. And what about your move to the conservatives . Was that a difficult process . Was it a painful process for you . It was something that, you know, i considered , very deeply. Know, i considered, very deeply. I dont think you make a move like that without, you know, thinking through the impact for your family. And ive got Young Children and i know and i knew at the time that , you know, i at the time that, you know, i would, experience a lot of abuse up in scotland because, the constitutional debate and nationalism itself has become very toxic. And i think actually over all the years that ive spent , you know, in the party, spent, you know, in the party, the thing that ive really realised is that no matter what the question is Scottish Nationalism is never the answer, services, everythings gone downhill. So have you given up on i mean, obviously you have. Youre part of the conservative party now, so youre supporting the union. You dont anticipate that we should ever break up the United Kingdom from this point on, would you say . No, i did loads of work. Dufing no, i did loads of work. During the covid pandemic, dunng during the covid pandemic, during the health all party group, and i could see that, you know, its very much helpful across the uk for all the nafions across the uk for all the nations to pool and share their expertise and best practice. And i think at times like that you realise how important it is and perhaps the economy as well. Briefly , we could talk for briefly, we could talk for hours, but you must come back, devolution briefly. Has that been successful . Ushered in under tony blair . Has it worked for the people of scotland . Well, i mean, i think there is support in scotland for devolution, but i think whats happened over the recent past is that unfortunately theres been such a focus on independence that services such as health, education, transport, i mean, theres such a long list, we could be here for a long time have all been failed, and so i think that people realise that so much more work has to be done to make it a success. How have you been getting on in the conservative party . Arent they terrible people . Theyre all horrible, arent they . Actually, the Prime Minister reached out to me when i was at a very low point. I feel hes a man of absolute integrity and compassion , he told me, because compassion, he told me, because i chaired the Disability Group in the parliament that he valued the work i do there, and he was very, very supportive and has very, very supportive and has very much helped me through such a difficult time. Well, more power to you , doctor lisa power to you, doctor lisa cameron mp, thank you so much for joining us, gary lineker is forjoining us, gary lineker is next. Dont miss it. Thank you. Next. Dont miss it. Thank you. That warm feeling inside from boxt boilers sponsors of weather on gb news. Hello. Welcome to your gb news weather update by the met office for monday. Its going to office for monday. 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Ill be dealing with the organisations biggest star in no Uncertain Terms in a take at ten special. Now we broke the internet last night with my take at ten on the ongoing civil war between harry and the king. Take a listen. Its time for the king and the country to forgive prince harry. Well, tonight, a bombshell new development. As its reported, king charles did offer his son accommodation at a major royal residence on his stay this week. Also, former stay this week. Also, former home secretary Suella Braverman is making headlines again in a move which has shocked her supporters. Well get the full story from a top fleet street insider. Plus, monday mornings front pages, a packed show and widikum waiting in the wings. Lots to get through. But first, the news headlines. An hour on armstrong. Armstrong. Thanks, mark. Very good evening to you. Im Aaron Armstrong in the gb newsroom. Angela rayner is expected to be interviewed under caution as part of a council tax investigation. The deputy labour leader is understood to have been contacted by Manchester Police concerning the sale of her home in 2015, amid claims she may not have paid the right amount of tax and that she may have made a false declaration about her primary residence on the electoral register. Reports the electoral register. Reports in a number of newspapers say shell be invited to attend a Police Station voluntarily, rather than being arrested. Miss rather than being arrested. Miss rayner has said shes confident the rules have been followed at all times. Meanwhile, sir keir starmer may come under renewed pressure this week over claims new labour mp Natalie Elphicke tried to lobby the justice secretary over her. Then husbands Sexual Offences trial. Her spokesperson says claims she asked sir Robert Buckland to influence charlie elphicks case influence charlie elphicks case in 2020 are nonsense. However a number of labour mps have raised concerns about miss elphicks continued support for her ex husband after his conviction for sexual assault. Sir keir has already faced criticism from within his own party for his decision to welcome her into laboun decision to welcome her into labour, given her a history of attacking his party on immigration issues, and hes now facing calls to investigate these recent allegations. The uk these recent allegations. The uk says it would support palestine gaining full member status in the United Nations, but only when the time is right. The comments by the Deputy Foreign minister come as israel launched fresh attacks on northern gaza to prevent hamas from regrouping, three months after the idf claimed it had taken control of the area. Meanwhile, tens of thousands of palestinian have been fleeing rafah in the south of gaza as israel prepares to launch a major offensive. Well earlier, hamas posted a video claiming the british israeli hostage Nadav Popplewells died after being injured in an airstrike last month. The government says its urgently seeking more information. Andrew mitchell has told gb news its not unfeasible , though, to suggest a palestinian vote in the un could happen before the conflict is resolved. It is right to recognise palestine as a state at the United Nations at the right time, and that doesnt have to be at the end of the process for peace , it can be as part of peace, it can be as part of those negotiations and britain will support palestine becoming a state at the un when we feel the time is right. That isnt now, but it may, as i say, be before the end of the peace process. Piocess. Process. Vladimir putin is set to replace his defence minister with the ukraine war into its third year. The russian president has proposed removing long term ally Sergei Shoigu , long term ally Sergei Shoigu, whos been in the role for 12 years, and who played a key role in russias invasion of ukraine. Hes to be replaced by andrei belousov, an economist and former deputy Prime Minister with little military experience. It comes days after Vladimir Putins inauguration as president for a fifth term and with his forces on the front foot in ukraine, sergey lavrov, the countrys foreign minister, will remain in his job and two skydivers have become the first to navigate their way through tower bridge wearing wing suits. The pair, from austria, jumped from a helicopter and flew across the river thames, reaching a top speed of 152mph before successfully touching down. Having gone through the bndge down. Having gone through the bridge towers, it followed extensive training in oxfordshire. They used cranes , oxfordshire. They used cranes, stimulate the structure. Thats it for the moment. Ill be back with more a little later. Now it is over to. Mark. Is over to. Mark. Fried potato salesman and International Peace envoy gary lineker has spoken out about the war in gaza because he can no longer stay silent. That makes a change. Its funny that he cant stay silent because lineker was deafening in his silence. In the aftermath of october 7, the single biggest attack on jewish people since the holocaust, with the best part of 1500 people dead, including the attendees of a peace music festival. Women a peace music festival. Women were raped and tortured and beheaded , kids burned alive and beheaded, kids burned alive and the scorched corpses of innocent jews paraded on the back of pickup trucks. Were there any pickup trucks. Were there any personally written tweets about that from gary at the time . A man who lives on twitter . Man who lives on twitter . Nothing. The day after this particular horrific occasion, october the 7th, all we could find is this an important victory for arsenal. In many ways. Declan rice, the best ways. Declan rice, the best player on the pitch in my humble opinion. Oh wait, no, theres a tweet under that. Maybe thats tweet under that. Maybe thats about the slaughter of jews. It says heartache. Oh no heartache says heartache. Oh no heartache for city. As martinelli scores. For city. As martinelli scores. Its really strange that gary was so quiet. Hes always on the internet and on social media, sharing his views. I think this latest intervention from him is particularly disastrous, given the casual tone in which he referred to the true horrors of october the 7th. Take a listen. Now, obviously we all know what you know. October 7th happened and, you know, the hamas thing. Hamas thing. Yeah, man, we all know october the 7th happened. Man you know the hamas thing. Translation we all know hitler invaded poland. The nazi thing, the holocaust thing. So i see it. I think purely from the outside as from a neutral perspective. Yeah. Gary. Neutral perspective. Definitely. It goes on. But the minute you, you know, you raise your voice against what theyre now doing, theyre , what theyre now doing, theyre, you know, you get accused of being a supporter of hamas or, you know, all this kind of stuff. So there is, you know, theres a lot of heavy lobbying on really, gary, heavy lobbying on really, gary, heavy lobbying on people to be quiet. Have you not seen the so called peace marches every weekend for half a year and all the demonstrations, the encampments and the loud booing at last nights eurovision . But fear not, folks, these days gary is more than happy to speak out. Is more than happy to speak out. Im fairly secure, fairly secure. Tell me about it. £1. 3 million a year, paid for by licence fee payers to introduce football clips. Sounds pretty secure to me, he goes on. I cry on a regular basis. I cry on a regular basis. So do i, gary. Every time ive got to fork out £169 for my licence fee, he goes on you know, its not anti semitic to say that what israel is doing is wrong , is it not, though, gary, wrong, is it not, though, gary, let me hand this one over to the worlds number one podcaster and dropper of truth bombs, joe rogan. Whats crazy to me is regardless of how you feel about how the Israeli Military and the army is pursuing the war in gaza, regardless of that, the blatant just out in the open anti semitism that we see today is like nothing ive ever seen before, like like roaches coming out of the woodwork. Well, that sounds quite bad , well, that sounds quite bad, but carrie gary keeps on digging for, you know, whatever, whatever the cause, whatever started it and we all know that, you know, the history of this area of the world goes way before october the 7th. We all know the history goes way before. Crumbs. Gary, i hope youre not making an excuse for october the 7th. Like there was a justified reason for it. I hope youre not victim blaming the jews who were slaughtered. It goes on. Its the worst thing ive seen in my lifetime. Really he. Did he not see what happened on october the 7th . The attack, which broke a ceasefire , in which broke a ceasefire, in which broke a ceasefire, in which of course had existed, and also an attack which saw the torture and mutilation of innocent people, including children. Gary lives in london, has he not seen the posters of the hostages taken, including children , women and a holocaust children, women and a holocaust survivor from World War Two . By the way, hamas still have those hostages. Does that not weigh on hostages. Does that not weigh on Gary Linekers mind . Im trying to find a tweet from him somewhere about the hostages, and there well being. I might add that the israeli authorities fear that many of those hostages are now dead. Now fear that many of those hostages are now dead. Now im fear that many of those hostages are now dead. Now im worried are now dead. Now im worried about israels response in gaza. Are they going too far . You tell me. The deaths of thousands of me. The deaths of thousands of gaza and men, women and children is a horrific nightmare and a profound tragedy. But its clear that the scale of civilian casualties is the result of hamas weaponize using human beings, which is why the fact that hamas are. Winning the pr that hamas are. Winning the pr war in britains universities, for example, is sickening. Hamas are stopping innocent gazans escaping areas that israel have pre warned they will attack, building their hqs in the basement of hospitals and storing their arsenal of dangerous weapons in primary schools. Israel must not break International Law and peace must come. But hamas, who dont want a two state solution, have got to be dismantled. They are no different to the nazis. A hateful death cult who want to wipe israel off the map and to do october the 7th again and again and again. Their quotes, not mine. Which is why its probably unwise to be seen to offer their cause any sympathy whatsoever, something that gary risks doing in this ill advised interview. Putting clearly one of the key faces of our National State broadcaster , a man whose state broadcaster, a man whose vast salary is paid for by the british public, the last word goes to the worlds biggest comedian , ricky gervais. Note comedian, ricky gervais. Note the Audience Response at the end. Im not the only one that doesnt buy the gary lineker nice guy routine. Well i am woke now and i can prove it. There you go. I love illegal immigrants. Yeah, sue me now, i sometimes i go down to dover for the day right. And i, i look out right and look look for a boat. And i see a dinghy with about 60 of them. And i go over it. Right. And i pull them in, i pull them in to shore and i go, women and children. First they 90, women and children. First they go, there are no women in just you lads, is it . Just come on lads. What lads . I stand by the traffic lights and i wait for a big lorry to pull up right. And i look underneath and theres a lad sort of clutching like that and i go, where are you headed . And he goes, Gary Linekers house. I go, its just down there. Oh dear. The face of walkers cnsps oh dear. The face of walkers crisps just got roasted. Your crisps just got roasted. Your reaction gbnews. Com yoursay ill get to your views shortly. But first, tonights top pundits. Former government minister Edwina Currie, ex tory mp and farmer neil parish and top labour insider Paul Richards. Edwina, your reaction to this latest intervention on the part of gary lineker . Well i think gary lineker is about as competent at commenting on politics, particularly international politics, as i would be commenting on premier division football. You know, he and that makes him very vulnerable to propaganda from activists of one kind or another, from people who actually dont have the United Kingdoms interests at heart at all. And then he has the opportunity on the media to say all this stuff. I mean, you know, the issues of things like a palestinian state. The problem with those who want a palestinian state is that they want it to replace the israeli state. They want to wipe out israel. If they were proposing something that lived in peaceful coexistence, that might be a totally different kettle of hummus. But it isnt. Totally different kettle of hummus. But it isnt. Thats not hummus. But it isnt. Thats not what they want. Hamas is a terrorist regime , a hamas terrorist regime, a hamas actually terrorises its own people. Yeah, and the israeli governments objective right now is to try and root out hamas and destroy it forever. Whether thats possible or not. Youre talking them practical military and intelligence issues on which ihave and intelligence issues on which i have no competence whatsoever. But for someone like gary lineker to take their line , i lineker to take their line, i think he should be ashamed of himself. I mean, somewhere along the line hes actually adding to the line hes actually adding to the misery of a lot of people. I spent this afternoon at a tea party with a load of cousins, and i wondered whether in london i ought to wear this, which was my mothers, and which is a little high for israel, and which i wear in her memory. But was i going to be safe wearing it, Walking Around london, going on the tube . And nobody should ever have to think like that. Whether theyre wearing a cross, whether theyre wearing any kind of religious significance, if its something that matters to them , they should feel safe and them, they should feel safe and secure in london, and they should feel that if theres a problem, people will go to their aid. And an awful lot of jewish people dont feel that anymore. However, and absolutely right. And ive got jewish friends and colleagues that feel the same way. However Paul Richards, you know, gary lineker is a sovereign individual. Hes entitled to his view. Hes been entitled to his view. Hes been very consistent in his concerns about the plight of refugees, about the plight of refugees, about whats happening in gaza. Hes taken people into his own home. He just wants innocent women, children, babies from dying. You cant argue with dying. You cant argue with that, can you . Well, i disagree very utterly with the remarks he made. I think his take on it is completely wrong. For all the reasons you and others have articulated. But i will absolutely defend his right to say it. I think its more important to have these idiotic arguments out in the open, open to scrutiny and to have them rebutted where they are false than it is to somehow shut him up. But paul, even as a as a as the face of bbc sport, well, even as a public figure, he has got the right to speak on these issues. And it wasnt on a bbc programme that he said this. It wasnt on match of the day, was it . I mean, he was doing it in his own time. Well, dont give him ideas and the alternative is to say, well, you censor him, you ban him, you say he cant speak out and that makes it worse. I would rather have these rather odious views unearthed and dissected and discussed. So we can educate people about whats really going on. Then somehow to make it samizdat and under under the covers. And that would be far more dangerous in my neil parish. Are these views odious . Gary lineker is looking at statistics 30,000 innocent People Killed since israels retaliation. Since israels retaliation. Babies, mothers, grandparents. I babies, mothers, grandparents. I mean, i think he wants the carnage to end. Yeah, thats is carnage to end. Yeah, thats is thatis carnage to end. Yeah, thats is that is that a bad thing . I think were all concerned about the number of casualties now in gaza, but i think the trouble with Gary Linekers comments is that he just did not take into consideration the hamas actions in october, killing so many innocent israelis. And so the israeli israelis. And so the israeli israel was always going to attack. And of course, the problem is that hamas will actually have its headquarters in hospitals among civilian population. You only have to look at the history of when hamas took over in gaza. They hamas took over in gaza. They actually, through all the previous incumbents out the window of 510 storey buildings , window of 510 storey buildings, you know, this is the type of people they are. They dont care for their own people either. And so therefore, yes, i think were all concerned about the casualties in gaza. But why cant gary lineker if he is, if he should come in and i think he should as a winner, curry says. Actually stick to commenting on football. But if he is going to go into the political arena, for goodness sake, be balanced about it and accept the fact that you know what happened to the israelis and the Jewish Population in october was horrendous. And if hed actually horrendous. And if hed actually made a more balanced approach to the whole thing, we wouldnt actually be debating it like this tonight. But i think, this tonight. But i think, frankly, hed be better to shut up about the whole thing. Tough love from neil parish. Ive got to say, i was on air when, we had the iranian drone attack on israel, and that was the only time we heard from gary lineker is not when iran attacked israel , but when Israel Attacked israel, but when israel retaliated. Whats going on . Your views please. Gbnews. Com yoursay view. Coming up, we broke the internet last night with my take at ten on the ongoing civil war between harry and his father. Its time for the king and the country to forgive prince harry. Well, many of you are not happy with that view. But tonight, a bombshell new development. As its new development. As its reported, king charles offered his son accommodation at a major royal residence on his stay this week. Who to believe . Making sense of it all. Tonights newsmaker political royalty and on. A quick word about karl bennett, who is a brilliant digital producer here gbnews and hes excited. And im excited because gb news is now on tiktok. Thats right. And we are. Streaming right. And we are. Streaming live. So you can watch the entirety of mark dolan tonight live going out now. So let me give a wave to our 999,000 followers. Lets make it a million before we get off air. So hop on tiktok and give us a follow gbnews. Well done karl, i think we can do this before 11. Ill get to your feedback about gary lineker at 1030, but we broke the internet last night with my take at ten. It was about the ongoing civil war between harry and his father. Between harry and his father. Admire the king greatly, but it was wrong not to see harry. This week. William is consumed with rage, which i fear will never dissipate. Thats brothers for you. But charles, as harrys father and the head of the family, should know better , its family, should know better, its time for the king and the country to forgive prince harry. Well, thats my view. But tonight, a bombshell new development as the sunday timess royal editor , roy timess royal editor, roy nichols reports, reports that king charles did offer his son accommodation at a major royal residence on his stay this week. Thats right. Charles offered thats right. Charles offered harry some digs. Who to believe . Making sense of it all. Tonights newsmaker political royalty, Ann Widdecombe. And well get to harrys accommodation in just a moment. But given King Charless cancer diagnosis and of course, we wish him a speedy recovery was it wrong that these two men did not meet this week . Meet this week . No, it wasnt wrong at all. Because the issue isnt forgiveness, mark. The issue is trust. And harry has shown quite consistently that he cant be trusted. He has a meeting with the royals. The next thing we know, hes giving an interview , know, hes giving an interview, on american television. And the king and the fragile state that he will be in at the moment with cancer treatment, does not need that. So i dont think refusing to meet him, shows that he hasnt forgiven harry. It shows quite straightforwardly. He doesnt trust harry, and he doesnt trust harry, and he doesnt want that pass on that. And i dont find it odd if he offered harry, a place in a royal residence somewhere. For the very simple reason that this harry was over here because of the invictus games, which shine like a beacon in his life as a very, very worthwhile thing. One very, very worthwhile thing. One of the few worthwhile things hes done other than fight for his country , and, so, of course, his country, and, so, of course, you know. The royalty would you know. The royalty would support that, but a personal meeting which could then be all over the airwaves in the states, you know, one day later. No, thanks. I think the king was right. Right. And it strikes me as unfathomable that harry would stay in a hotel on his visit to london, given that the capital boasts one of the finest houses on earth, buckingham palace. Why didnt he stay at a royal residence . Its bizarre for him to be at a Holiday Inn Express while you have to ask harry that. I cant answer that. Perhaps he was trying to make a point, i dont know, i cannot fathom harrys mind, quite honestly, but as i say, i think that at the moment, people would be very wise or family would be very wise or family would be very wise not to trust to harry act discreetly, and therefore, at this very vulnerable time for them, not to seem perfectly reasonable. Well of course, anne, he can afford his own accommodation, but you are a former home office minister. Does it not concern you that harry does not enjoy full armed Royal Protection when in the uk . Royal protection when in the uk . No, it doesnt concern me. I dont think harry is in any immediate danger. He will have some protection, and he can always supply his own. But his appeal to the high court was in relation to armed protection, which is, of course, exclusive to key political and royal figures. Hes the kings royal figures. Hes the kings son. Hes a target, an. Well, hang on, did he win that appeal to the court . That appeal to the court . He certainly didnt. But i still think that the moral case to protect the king and i take i take the legal point. He is King Charless son. Hes a target. He should be protected. The court would have taken all that into account. Court schmart. Who cares what a dusty judge thinks . I want to know what Ann Widdecombe thinks. Know what Ann Widdecombe thinks. Well, im trying to tell you, but i keep being interrupted by these flights of fancy that you have about harry being a target. Have about harry being a target. I think it is right that he has some protection. I dont think its right that he has the full protection that is afforded to working royals, because he is not a working, hes not a working royal. But anne, he is the kings son. Hes one of the most famous englishmen on the planet. Well, lots of royal relatives wont have that sort of full protection. Im sorry. I think that the court would have taken all of that into account. And came to its decision. And i think, as in all things, whether we like verdicts from the courts or not, you know, they are what prevail. And we havent really discussed too many royal issues because of important matters of state. But what is your appraisal of harrys wife, Meghan Markle . Is she the yoko ono of the royal family . Oh gracious me, nothing is an insuh oh gracious me, nothing is an insult to yoko ono, isnt it . No i think that meghan is ambitious , hugely ambitious, that she had noidea , hugely ambitious, that she had no idea and part of that is harrys fault. That she had no idea about what being a royal actually entailed. She didnt have time to find out, and i think shes a very destructive force. And you dont just have to look at what shes done to the royal family. I mean, look at the splits in her own family. Look at the way she owned her own father. Let me tell you, forget about harry. If theres anyone that deserves 24 over seven around the clock Royal Protection , its the clock Royal Protection, its Ann Widdecombe. And thank you so much for that. I wish we had longer , but i know you can look longer, but i know you can look after yourself, cant you . And well see you in a weeks time. Always a highlight of the weekend to be joined by ann. But next up, tomorrows newspaper front pages with full pundit reaction. Some cracking headunes reaction. Some cracking headlines and before the end of the hour, a top westminster insider and a scandal for suella i in america. In america. In america. Great news. 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I should say the excellent pundits do help as well. Of course they do, and last but not least, well done to greg and to jack for working so hard today. Just a two man team putting together that, take it ten special and much more besides. Time now for the papers. And the metro. Shame of plasma scandal. Medics, blood victims scandal. Medics, blood victims treated like lab chimps. The treated like lab chimps. The daily mirror. Mirror investigation. Get your house in order. Four conservatives have declined to reveal whether they paid tax on a total £5 million profit from the sale of publicly funded homes. Growing scandal there for rishi sunak and a political headache. The eye political headache. The eye newspaper a rise in 40 year mortgages as millions face repayments into retirement. The Guardian Union boss says elphicke is incompatible with laboun elphicke is incompatible with labour. This is, of course , labour. This is, of course, former conservative mp Natalie Elphicke, who has defected to labour and the tuc president , is not happy at her arrival in the party. Superbugs will make covid 19 look minor in is an exclusive in the guardian from their Global Health correspondent kat ley, and success in the sunshine united fans bask in their first womens fa cup trophy. Daily mail. Rishi warns uk is entering a dangerous era. Britons will see almost every aspect of their lives change over the next five years as the country enters one of its most dangerous eras. In a major speech , rishi sunak will major speech, rishi sunak will say he feels a profound sense of urgency to tackle the threats facing the nation while seizing the opportunity to build a more secure future. He is expected to say britain is at a crossroads ahead of the election and a defining period for the west. Whilst warning that labour could leave the country exposed to Rapid Advances in technology, a global rise in immigration and authoritarian states increasingly working together will mean more will change in the next five years than in the last 30, says sunak. Harry who how nigeria has gone mad for meghan its the other story at the times. Its all right to be upstaged by your star studded was it up up up up whatsit . Yes. Upstaged by your missus. Im always happy for that to happen , always happy for that to happen, okay, how about this the times autocratic states pose biggest threat since the cold war, says sunak. Theres the timess angle on the previous story. Uk sick note culture is fuelled by obesity crisis and good care in pregnancy. The exception, not the rule. Telegraph pm britain the rule. Telegraph pm britain safer under tories for dangerous years ahead and lib dems deselected candidate for being christian. Daily express Alastair Stewart calls gb news star. Legendary broadcaster my early dementia diagnosis made a massive difference and also country concedes huge life changing opportunities in the face of Global Threats. Pms bold vision for stark choices facing britain. Lets get reaction now from my top pundits with us in the studio from gorgeous derbyshire former government minister ex radio five live presenter. When it was quite a good Radio Station to listen to, Edwina Currie, ex tory mp and farmer neil parish , tory mp and farmer neil parish, a thinking mans jeremy clarkson, but without the money and the rather suntanned and handsome, devilish , really slim handsome, devilish, really slim thanks to the keto diet, labour insider Paul Richards am i sharing too much information about the pundits tonight . I think i might be neil parish before i dig any deeper. Can we talk about this speech, this anticipated speech from the Prime Minister in which he has said the uk is entering a dangerous five year period . I migration and authoritarian states . Is this fear mongering . Is this about an election . I think there is an election coming, mark. I think its probably an open secret. But seriously , i think, you know, as seriously, i think, you know, as far as russia and the ukraine is concerned , theres no doubt. I concerned, theres no doubt. I think thats one thing that the all the tory Prime Ministers have been very good at actually is facing down putin and actually helping the ukrainians and the west doesnt need is starting to blink now, which they should not be. And so i think we need to be strong. I think we need to be strong. I think migration , ian is not safe think migration, ian is not safe in Keir Starmers hands because you see this policy that hes been saying of bringing all the agencies together in the uk. Thats absolutely fine. But you know whats doing that he will want to repatriate. And of course, in order to repatriate , course, in order to repatriate, hes very much likely to go back to Free Movement of people with the european union. You mark my words. Thats where it goes into the future. And so therefore, i think youll find , itll all think youll find, itll all unravel very quickly , if labour unravel very quickly, if labour get in, paul is boiling with rage and i dont think its boiling with rage. The studio temperature is it . Please boil with rage. Its not that north london suntan. Why do you disagree with london . Ive never been to north london. Is that right . Is that right . Sussex . Sussex . Where did. Where did you say you walked across a bridge and got a sun . I said Seven Sisters in sussex, not Seven Sisters in north london. Oh, no wonder how the other half live. Anyway. Go on. I got a text this afternoon inviting me to this speech, so ill be there in the morning to hear what sunak has to say. There you go. And whats whats the speech about you are you youve been youve been a youve been a top labour strategist and youre still a key insider. Youve got the ear of keir starmer, what do you think sunak is up to with this speech . He reminds me a little bit of the speeches that blair gave when he was on the way out, when he knew the game was up and brown was going to take over. He started giving these great big state of the nation addresses. And this is, i think, what hes hes racking up some some, you know , air miles so that when he know, air miles so that when he gets out of downing street, hell be on that lecture circuit in the states before he knows it. So hes getting himself ready to be a global leader, is what you think . Yes, i think its one of those big sort of tour de reason speeches all about the Global Threats to put him on that world stage. I dont think hes got much else to do that. Is that your interpretation, edwina . No, i dont think so. I mean, he may well be tackling slightly too many subjects in one speech, but its hard to tell because the different newspapers are picking different bits out. The bit that has my heart, warmed is that he wants to talk about having to spend 2. 5 of gdp on defence, of how important the war in ukraine is. Its quite clear that putin is not giving up, that, in fact, hes intensifying his efforts. The intensifying his efforts. The west has been asleep for a long time on these things , and those time on these things, and those who have been warning about it have sounded like warmongers. Have sounded like warmongers. Well, now we do have a war. I mean, its a sense in which that wars in my in my own kitchen, because i have a ukrainian family staying with me. Its now over two years and at home their dads just been called up because the rules on enlistment have now changed. Yeah, were right in the middle of it, and i have no idea how long its going to take and how long its going to take and how long its going to cost or or how long theyre going to stay, or how long theyre going to need to be looked after. And a lot of people in that situation, its real. Edwina, can you tell me its creditable to you that youve done that and it shows its the mark of you as a person that youve taken this family. And i know youre very fond of them, and theyre theyre like an extended family now. But whats the impact been on you just in terms of your time, your schedule , your finances, your schedule, your finances, your energy, and also your privacy in the house . Tell us about it, they have their own space of bedrooms and spare bathroom. I probably wouldnt have offered if wed had to share a bathroom. We share the kitchen, which means they do the cooking and i do much less than i did , which do much less than i did, which kind of suits me. But the great thing has been getting to know a family and trying to create an environment in which they could be at least feel safe and comfortable and perhaps begin to grow and quite literally, the boys are growing. So the elder one is now six. Hes going to be rivalling you for height eventually. And theyre very sporty, arent they . The kids, very sporty. Theyre into martial arts. I take them and its entered it helped me enter a completely different world. Ive got a lot from it. But has it been also difficult for you, though . Not not to have your own space at times because youre a very independent character . When im broadcasting from home, i say to the kids off broadband, i need every inch of broadband because were derbyshire. And if you hear me shouting at somebody , im broadcasting, at somebody, im broadcasting, all right . And they scuttle away. Its terrifying for them. They dont want to be on tv. No. And theyre scared of auntie edwina. And i dont blame them, neil, what do you. What do you thinks going on with sunaks speech . We talked about it earlier , but, i mean, is this earlier, but, i mean, is this just, you know, getting people afraid so that were going to have, you know, were going to have, you know, were going to have to vote for a tory government again. I mean, hes going to highlight the strengths of what he believes he he is providing as a tory government. But i think , you know, going back to think, you know, going back to the ukrainian situation, we need to actually be so firm now in order to get the americans firmed up, basically because, i mean, the way they messed about with that 60 billion worth of german as well as the germans, you see, thats given putin hope. And hes now on an offensive and we really are at a very critical time as far as this is concerned. And, i mean, im not a war monger, but in order to stop putin, you have got to have the weapons to do it. And so therefore, weve got to line up with it, but weve also got to get the americans to do to line up with it, too. And i think thats the big issue. So i think thats the big issue. So l, i think thats the big issue. So i, i welcome his speech. I imagine therell be a little bit in it about the election coming up, and he will try and shore up the tory vote. But i also but i do actually believe rishi sunak is statesmanlike , as far as you is statesmanlike, as far as you know, not only being Prime Minister but also as far as the situation is with ukraine. Paul, i think keir starmer is quite pro defense spending and making sure that our citizens are safe when he becomes Prime Minister, more so than his predecessor, Jeremy Corbyn. But the party arent that keen on large scale defence investment, are they . Well, some are, and some arent. I mean, the unions obviously like the idea of defence spending because it means jobs for the unite members and people in those defence. But will some of those backbenchers swallow two and a half, 3 of gdp per year on defence . I mean, if you look at sunaks remarks around Global Threats, i, the rise of china and so on, these things Transcend Party politics. This is about the national interest. And a starmer interest. And a starmer government will spend more on defence, not because of the choice, but because it has to, because thats the world. Unfortunately, were now in. Youve got two areas of expertise. You are a top labour insider. Doubtless there will be a Labour Government in a couple of months. Im hoping youve got the ear of the Shadow Health secretary, wes streeting. I saw him yesterday. I saw him yesterday. Well you did you okay. This headune well you did you okay. This headline in the times or. No, thats the wrong one. Uk sick note culture, uk culture is fuelled by the obesity crisis. Obese people are up to twice as likely to take time off work. A study has revealed. Now, this is not about fat shaming or attacking someone for being overweight, but it has an impact on the economy. And we heard last week, is it half of cancer cases are linked to obesity . Is labour going to get a handle on this . Good luck. I well, i know weve been here before, but i do believe that wes streeting has got the right approach, which is about prevention and not just piling money into the nhs. And is he focused on obesity as a thing . Because tell us, tell us your your health story because its remarkable. My journey is started about two and a half years ago, where i decided to do something about my enormous being overweight. I was 20 plus stone overweight. You were 20 plus stone. You were 20 plus stone. I read tom watsons book all about the keto diet, and hed lost about eight stone at that point. And ive subsequently lost ten stone, which is why i didnt recognise you. Yeah, thats right. Yeah, thats right. Right. Right. So youve lost. Youve lost ten stone. Youve lost an entire human being. Youve lost an entire Edwina Currie and a bit and Edwina Currie and a bit the important thing a bit of neil parish. Really important. Lets not say which bit. Its a family show, but youll be proud. Thing is, though, no medical interventions. It was no interventions. It was no injections. There was no operation. So what you did, you cut down on carbohydrates, is that right . You cut out carbs from your life. Life. So what is that . Bread . Pasta . Rice . Potatoes . Yes. Sugar sugar. Sugar. Thats the killer, right . Yeah. Sugar is the thing. Sugar is the thing. So you cut all that. And what are you eating instead . Just beautiful food. I have lovely fish. Fish, meat, natural protein, healthy natural fats, butter, yoghurt. Yoghurt. Delicious for breakfast. No bother at all. Right. So protein, natural fats. Not so much the carbs. And you dont feel hungry. And you dont feel hungry. You dont feel hungry. You dont feel hungry. All good british food produced by good british farmers. Thats why. Thats why hes looking so well. Absolutely right. Its very good. So do you think labour labour could, you know, get, get a handle on this because my concern is that, you know, i fully support the idea of the nhs, but it is a money pit and i feel that the cash that goes in is ultimately suspension. Yes, it is supporting preventable illnesses, which in the end edwina is not sustainable. And its also not ethical ehhen right. Well, also its horrible if somebody is overeating and persistently very heavy. And i used to be a couple of stone heavier than i am now. Theyre going to end up with a lot of pain, a lot of misery. Theyre going to have joint problems. Theyre going to be in and out of hospital that its not just a shorter life, its a less pleasant one. If theres anything we can do to enable people to live better, we should certainly be doing it for Mental Health as well. Thats right. Thats right. But its the one thing that the National Health has never got to grips with is actually prevention. And i think thats the one thing that we, you know, we should have been we should be having regular medicals as we get older. Most most countries do. And thats the real problem. Neil darling, we also need people to take the advice that theyre being given. Well there you go. Listen, let me tell you about neil. Ive been to his farm. Ive watched him work out and all of that. What youre looking at, its pure muscle. Well, its not all pure muscle. Hes not. Hes like one of his. Hes like one of his herefords. Do you know what i mean . This is chunky but strong. Well fleshed, i think. Well fleshed, i think. Yeah, thats very well. Yeah, thats very well. Ill sell you to the market all day long. I dont want to go to market yet. Thank you. Well actually, ill take the seed and sell that. Listen, there you go. If you want advice, obviously, if you need to lose weight, go and see your doctor. But i can recommend Michael Mosleys keto 800 book is excellent. Other books are available. Youve also got the diet doctor. Com website and doctor david unwin, nhs gp, who helped many of his patients reverse their diabetes and lose weight. I think approval all of those. So theres a few ideas, but go and see your doctor and go and grab yourself some help. Next up, more front pages and former home secretary Suella Braverman is making headlines again in a move which has shocked her supporters. Well get the full story with a top fleet street insider next. Its next. Wsfime next. Its time for the last word. Former home secretary Suella Braverman is making headlines again. In a move which has shocked her supporters. Lets get more on this. In an get more on this. In an exclusive interview with the Political Editor of the independent, david maddox has been talking to labours wes streeting, congratulations on the exclusive , david, what have the exclusive, david, what have you got for us here . Well, i mean, i should say i spoke to wes at the end of last week before suella published her piece , but, we had an extensive piece, but, we had an extensive interview on a number of subjects. Therell be more stories to come from that. And, you know, wes is a very thoughtful politician, actually, and i think hes a very impressive politician. But one of the things i brought up was. The cap things i brought up was. The cap on, two children, for benefit for the child benefit system, which, of course, labour u turned on last year, much to the chagrin of their own activists , many of their mps activists, many of their mps and, the trade unions. Activists, many of their mps and, the trade unions. And, you and, the trade unions. And, you know, it was sitting there in the comments, that wes had made to me and, some only this sunday, Suella Braverman literally shocked the political world with an article that seemed, completely , opposite to seemed, completely, opposite to type, by, suggesting that we should scrap the cap and that we should scrap the cap and that we should have. You know, should have. You know, essentially benefits for unlimited number of children, obviously, you know, but i mean, for but its a, which, which was shocking in itself and very surprising. So we reported, that article, which was originally in the telegraph and, but then, of course , you know, wes streeting course, you know, wes streeting comments in comparison to that, as a contrast to that, became much more relevant. So i put up a piece this afternoon really kind of explaining or explaining , getting him to explain the difference and why labour wants to go ahead with this cap, which she says, of course, is a cause of a major cause of child poverty. Well, definitely. Im having a look at the website now. The independent. Co. Uk, you are its Political Editor. Its always a good read, astonishing, david, that Suella Braverman now has a more left wing position on benefits than labours likely Incoming Health secretary yes. And in fact, to be fair, the entire labour leadership, by the entire labour leadership, by the sounds of it, i mean that that was the stunning thing about it, i mean, who would have believed what . Okay, lets, david, let me interrupt you. Let me bring in my pundits and do stay with us on this. Ive got, neil parish, Paul Richards and Edwina Currie , Paul Richards and Edwina Currie, what do you think Paul Richards does . This position by labour surprise you and Suella Braverman taking a more left wing view . Its a very fast moving story, isnt it . Im not sure i know exactly whats going on, frankly, but, i mean, wheres this . Just saying. Look, this is the policy as it is, if labour gets into government, its going to have to look at the entire benefit system in the round, and therell be fresh policy around that. What Suella Braverman is up to, though, is obviously her. You know, one eye on the election and beyond, i suspect. Okay. But what were saying here for labour is that youll have a limit of two kids get benefits if you have three or 4 or 5, it wont make a difference. This is that. Is that the right thing to do, paul briefly. Well were going to inherit the system as it is, but we will reform it if were in government. All right. And hes just holding the line for now. I think neil parish, only a few seconds. Do you think that Suella Braverman is right, few seconds. Do you think that Suella Braverman is right , that Suella Braverman is right, that actually we should tackle poverty and have unlimited benefits for unlimited kids . I dont actually, because i think , you know, we have to be think, you know, we have to be careful on what we spend on benefit. I think weve got to send the right message that, you know, well, you can have more children, but please not let the state have to support them all. And i think this is a step in the wrong direction. Im surprised shes come up with it. Edwina, if youve got more kids, they need to eat. Kids, they need to eat. Yeah. Yes. Well, you have to choose to have more kids and its a very long time indeed. Before any woman could say, oh, i just got pregnant. No, you didnt just get pregnant. You had a choice about whether you got pregnant or not. And if you choose and you have the baby, be blessed. Be my guest. But you. Blessed. Be my guest. But you. You should pay for it. If you cant pay for it, you have to think twice about that, david, congratulations on a cracking exclusive for the independent. I hope youre enjoying your new stint as their Political Editor. My thanks to david maddox. Head my thanks to david maddox. Head to the independent. Co. Uk for that story. Thanks to my brilliant pundits and my team headuneis brilliant pundits and my Team Headline is this next . See you friday at eight. That warm feeling inside from boxt boilers sponsors of weather on gb news. Hello. Welcome to your gb news weather update by the met office for monday. Its going to office for monday. Its going to be dry in the east, but turning unsettled in the west and also feeling cooler here too. High pressure thats brought a lot of sunshine is moving its way eastwards, allowing low pressure to start moving in as we go to monday. But for this evening we still have some heavy showers around. Some of these are going to be thundery, pushing their way northwards , affecting parts way northwards, affecting parts of scotland later in the night, turning drier elsewhere with some drier and clearer spells across eastern parts. Low cloud though in the west temperatures generally around 10 or 11 degrees, so quite a mild start to start monday morning. Quite a lot of cloud around that should generally break up, especially across the midlands and eastern parts of england. Still some heavy showers across parts of scotland, but we have got outbreaks of rain pushing their way in from the west, affecting northern wales , northern northern wales, northern ireland, wales and south england as well. Heavy rain could cause some disruption, feeling much cooler underneath this cloud and rain, and that will gradually push its way northwards through tuesday. So a contrast in where the wet weather will be. But blustery showers are feeding in from the west. Some sunny spells as well, but temperatures really are going to be a little bit below what weve seen of late, but sunny spells scattered showers in the forecast for the rest of the week. Highs of around 20 or 21. Looks like things are heating up. Boxt boilers sponsors of weather on gb news. Hi, there. A very good evening to you. Im Aaron Armstrong in the gb newsroom. Rishi sunak will tell voters as the uk stands at a crossroads. And hes the best person to lead the country through some of the most dangerous years ahead. In a pre election pitch, the Prime Minister will say his bold ideas can create a more secure future for british people and restore confidence in the country at a time of unprecedented