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Going on with politics in our country . Please are there any light at the end of some of these tunnels or not, and have you had a parking ticket recently . Because if so, youre not 35,000 parking not alone. Over 35,000 parking fines every single fines are issued every single day by private companies. Legislation was supposed to be introduced to rein some of these companies in. So why hasnt it been introduced . Yes, indeed. So a packed hour coming up. But before we get stuck in, lets cross live for tonights latest news headlines. Im sophia wenzler in the gb newsroom. Former Prime Minister newsroom. Former Prime Minister liz truss has accused labour of preventing a debate on her bill, which seeks to ban transgender women from female only spaces and prevent them from competing in womens sports. It was due to be discussed in the commons today, but mps appeared to waste time to delay her debate. She told gb news she was frustrated by the opposition parties stalling tactics. My bill has been stopped today from being debated by the labour party and i am absolutely furious about that. They dont even want to talk about the importance of recognising biological sex. They dont want to talk about how we stop children being able to access puberty blockers that would actually stop their development, so they have spent today filibustering my bill and stopping it being talked about, even though over the last few weeks ive had a huge amount of pubuc weeks ive had a huge amount of public support from concerned parents, concerned teachers from young people themselves who want these bills, measures put into law. Now, the Prime Minister has suffered a blow, with another tory mp announcing he wont run at the next general election, citing personal reasons. James heale. He says hes standing heale. He says hes standing down to prioritise his family and to pursue a different career. Downing street says hell be greatly missed in parliament. Hes also expected to resign as Armed Forces Minister by the end of this month. More than 60 tory mps have now announced theyre leaving the commons as speculation mounts over when the general election will be held. The Prime Minister has ruled out the 2nd of may. Lib dems leader sir ed davey has accused him of running scared. I think people are really fed up at this conservative government and want to see the back of it, and elections cant come quick enough for the liberal democrats and i think the people of our country, when those elections whenever those elections come, whenever rishi decides go to the rishi sunak decides to go to the palace. Liberal democrats are ready. Weve got fantastic candidates who are local champions in their areas. Were campaigning like the campaigning on things like the nhs and the need to tackle the crisis there. The cost of living and things like sewage. And things like sewage. Meanwhile, labour has accused the Prime Minister of being too chicken to call election. As chicken to call an election. As a result, a group of activists dressed as chickens clucked outside downing street demanding the Prime Minister name the date. Now, labour added rishi sunak needs to stop squatting in number 10. A £5 million donation from frank hester has not yet been given to the conservatives, with a senior Party Sources telling gb news talks about the funds are still underway. The funds are still underway. The businessman, who has already given the party £10 million, is accused of being racist after he allegedly said mp diane abbott made him want to hate all black women. The Prime Minister, whos in sunderland with the chancellor today, is under pressure to return the donation. Jeremy hunt says the conservative party follows due process when it comes to declaring funds. Declaring funds. We absolutely are transparent. We follow all the rules, the regulations. We believe in, that transparent kc many of the laws about it. We actually passed ourselves and the conservative party fully complies with all the requirements to be transparent about our donations. In other news, police say theyve contacted the families of 35 people whose remains were recovered as part of an investigation into a funeral parlour in yorkshire. The bodies and a quantity of ashes were respectfully removed from legacy independent Funeral Directors in hull after concerns were raised about the storage and management processes relating to the care of the deceased. Humberside police described it as a truly awful incident. Two people arrested on a number of offences have been released on bail as enquiries continue , and the enquiries continue, and the defence secretary has warned russias president not to try it on. While he was on a nato visit in eastern europe, gb news has been given exclusive access to a Training Exercise in poland, where British Forces are working with their allies, preparing for any possible attack by russia. Any possible attack by russia. Its part of steadfast defender, the Largest Military exercise since the cold war. Grant shapps says nato allies are ready and willing to protect themselves from any threat. From any threat. This exercise is designed to make sure that we can operate with other countries like poland and be interoperable. Most and be interoperable. Most importantly of all, sending a very clear signal to putin or any other despotic leader that we will stand up for ourselves and dont try it on. And for the latest story, sign up to gb news alerts by scanning the qr code on your screen or go to gb news. Com slash alerts. Now its back to. Michelle. Thank you very much for that. Ive got to tell you that funeral story in hull, of course, my hometown. So many people are just so distraught. People are just so distraught. Best by that story. Can you imagine you are very sadly imagine when you are very sadly lose a loved one . The very last thing you need to be thinking about is, you did about is, you know, did i actually bury my loved one . Was that my loved one . These ashes that my loved one . These ashes that treasure is that loved that i treasure is that my loved one . Its so awful. Of one . Its so, so awful. Of course our thoughts are with everyone that is affected by that story. I am Michelle Dewberry and im with you till 7 00 alongside me, my 7 00 tonight alongside me, my panel , the conservative life panel, the conservative life peer the of lords, peer in the house of lords, Daniel Moylan and the business owner, political commentator and former councillor , kevin former labour councillor, kevin craig. Evening to both craig. Good evening to both of you. Good evening. Very dapper tonight. You too. Well, theyve scrubbed all right for you, scrubbed up all right for you, havent they, viewers. Look, its make an effort for its nice to make an effort for you, michelle. Its very nice. You look very smart. Maybe i might be dropping a subtle hint to some of other panellists to some of my other panellists that might be watching, nudge nudge, might know nudge, wink wink. You might know who anyway, ive got who you are, anyway, ive got a packed show coming up for you guys tonight, and you know the drill, dont you . Its not just about us three. Its very much about us three. Its very much about guys at home as well. About you guys at home as well. Whats on mind tonight . Gb whats on your mind tonight . Gb views gb com is how you views at gb news. Com is how you can reach you can tweet can reach me. Or you can tweet or text me at gb news. Speaking about style, this is not on my agenda, by the way, i cant agenda, by the way, but i cant help now that ive started help it now that ive started that conversation, cheltenham. They ladies day and they used to have ladies day and theyve it style day. Theyve renamed it style day. Lovely. Yes. What do you think to well i didnt know to that . Well i didnt know that. I mean, i used to go to cheltenham a lot, luckily for you, i am the font of all knowledge. Well yes, you are interesting. I genuinely dont know what to say. To say. Its very odd, isnt it . Its all very odd, isnt it . Its all very odd, isnt it . Whitewashing women out of society. Is that what we think it is . Is that what we think it is . Yeah, i think thats been going on for quite some time. I think thats what the whole trans thing is about, and a lot of women feel that theyre not being seriously as being treated seriously as members anymore. Members of society anymore. Might in well, that might come up in conversation because liz truss will to her. She was will come on to her. She was trying to get, something debated in today about kind in the commons today about kind of , these of of similar, these kind of topics. Didnt much topics. She didnt have much success as you heard about success as you just heard about in headline. You know in that headline. But you know what . For anything that what . Im all for anything that celebrates style because so often dont much of often people dont make much of an anymore, do they . They an effort anymore, do they . They go out looking like theyre being of dustbin go out looking like theyre beinthe of dustbin go out looking like theyre beinthe time of dustbin go out looking like theyre beinthe time myself dustbin go out looking like theyre beinthe time myself included. Half the time myself included. By half the time myself included. By cant i cant by the way, i cant i cant claim to be a style icon all the time. Anyway look, lets talk politics, because, politics, shall we . Because, have goings on . Have you seen the goings on . I mean, where do we even begin . Everybody. So weve had a situation today. Weve the situation today. Weve had the 62nd mp that they 62nd tory mp now say that they will stand again, this whole will not stand again, this whole nofion will not stand again, this whole notion of when the tories notion of when are the tories going call a general election going to call a general election . This day, will it . Will it be this day, will it be day . Whatever some be that day . Whatever some people suggesting, people were suggesting, it should have been early may, perhaps date as the perhaps the same date as the local elections. That that local elections. That and that now going to happen. Ill now is not going to happen. Ill just you, in case youve just remind you, in case youve just remind you, in case youve just tuned had this just tuned in, youve had this whole of chicken in, whole brood of chicken in, chickens descend on downing street. To this. I mean, street. Listen to this. I mean, son, what did you do . What did son, what did you do . What did he get up to at work today . Well, mom, i dressed as a chicken , meets rishi sunak and chicken, meets rishi sunak and clucked outside of downing street, a job someones got to do, im sure. But anyway , of do, im sure. But anyway, of course hes being called chicken. Are saying we chicken. People are saying we need have a general election need to have a general election now. Daniel, theres now. Apparently, daniel, theres rumours , of no confidence rumours, of no confidence letters going in, more and more, apparently, if, rumours are to be believed with rishi sunak. What do you make to it all . Well, these people in the chicken suits, im assuming theyre people from the leaders office. The opposition leaders office. The opposition leaders office. Starmers office, out there dressed like that. And just you vote just remember, if you vote laboun just remember, if you vote labour, these the people labour, these are the people going running the country going to be running the country because will be downing because they will be in downing street him, with, with or street with him, with, with or without chicken suits. Without their chicken suits. I mean, theyre a complete joke, the it . The whole thing, isnt it . You know, dont these know, you dont want these people your lock. People anywhere near your lock. Never dressed up as your lock never dressed up as far as up properly in far as dressed up properly in suits ties to out of respect suits and ties to out of respect for the public who dressed up in the past. Youre youve the past. Youre lot. Youve done same. Done the same. No. Do you make of that no. What do you make of that stunt . I think its fair enough. Thought up the i thought we livened up the days actually days news agenda. Actually i mean, of people do think mean, a lot of people do think hes. Hes chickened out. Dont they . Well, so do you think there should be a general election . Perhaps. Lets just that, perhaps. Lets just use that, provisional people provisional date that people wanted may. Wanted on the 2nd of may. I think should come well, i think it should come sooner later. Just sooner rather than later. Just because himself has not because rishi himself has not been elected by the british public. Was by a very public. He was elected by a very small brown, just like gordon brown, even elected small brown, just like gordon brc members even elected small brown, just like gordon brc members the even elected small brown, just like gordon brcmembers the labouracted small brown, just like gordon brcmembers the labour party by members of the labour party because ensured were no because he ensured there were no other the putin other candidates in the putin side. Im not sure about side. Well, im not sure about that. Comparison, the that. That comparison, but the putin reference. But the gordon we hadnt had so many Prime Ministers. I was about to say at the end of so many Prime Ministers and so much change. I think its particularly early, you know. Yeah. But thems the rules though, it . If everyone though, isnt it . So if everyone was happen, say was fine when it did happen, say with brown example with the brown example that weve just been quoting, then if people livid about it, then people were livid about it, then they changed the they could have changed the rules. One did. Rules. But no one did. Im not he yeah, im not saying he hasnt the to carry hasnt got the right to carry on, i think there is a sense on, but i think there is a sense out there that many people would welcome election. Now, welcome a general election. Now, i think youd probably agree with wouldnt you . With that, wouldnt you . Oh, me personally. Oh, i get myself trouble this myself into trouble about this because someone thats because im not someone thats sitting desperate or. Yeah, sitting here desperate or. Yeah, please take me the ballot box please take me to the ballot box with please. Not with my pencil, please. Im not really camp, and if i really in that camp, and if i was rishi sunak, i think id be in two minds, because part of me, daniel, would be thinking. Do what . Im absolutely do you know what . Im absolutely fed of all of now, you fed up of all of this now, you know it. Somebody know what have it. Somebody else. Flip of it would else. The flip side of it would be, you know what . No. I want be, do you know what . No. I want to cling on to power for as long as i can see whether or not i can turn things around. Well, so im sure hes in two minds, because all Prime Ministers all the options ministers keep all the options open the last minute. So open until the last minute. So hes hes thinking, im sure, about of different dates hes hes thinking, im sure, aborhes of different dates hes hes thinking, im sure, aborhes twofferent dates hes hes thinking, im sure, aborhes twofferent ortes hes hes thinking, im sure, aborhes two fferent or even and hes in two minds or even more than two minds about when it i personally wrote it should be. I personally wrote an a couple of weeks ago an article a couple of weeks ago in of sunday papers an article a couple of weeks ago in ii sunday papers an article a couple of weeks ago in ii thought day papers an article a couple of weeks ago in ii thought we papers have saying, i thought we should have an general election an early general election because, lots of because, there are lots of problems to be solved. And basically civil is basically the Civil Service is not working for the government anymore. Theyre doing anymore. Theyre not doing anything. Imagining anything. Theyre all imagining theres going to be a starmer government, and theyve got their on and also their eyes on that. And also because although things are bad in for the in the polls for the conservatives at the moment, it is possible get better, is possible theyll get better, but just as possible that but its just as possible that theyll i think theyll get worse. So i think there for case going to the there is a for case going to the country relatively soon, not necessarily may, necessarily on the 2nd of may, because think confuses it because i think that confuses it with elections. But it with the local elections. But it could some time before the could be some time before the summer, and, and we could then have made the have a decision made by the electorate we go. Electorate about where we go. Yeah. Think, you know, yeah. And i think, you know, clinging on the very end, i clinging on to the very end, i think will damage the conservatives i think conservatives because i think people see that being. People will see that as being. Well, are you achieving well, what are you achieving dunng well, what are you achieving during period, think during this period, and i think trying to achieve results, surely because people surely trying to because people will tories about 14 will say the tories about 14 years, to do whatever it is. But actually, surely then your pushback should be or would be. Well first of all, you had a coalition, then youve had all of the kind of backlash, if you like, or trying to steady the ship off the back of brexit, then then youve then literally then youve had covid, youve to get covid, then youve tried to get back your feet after covid, back on your feet after covid, then had ukraine war, then youve had the ukraine war, then youve had the ukraine war, then tried to get then youve tried to get yourself back on the feet there, and had the and then youve had the situation israel and gaza. So situation in israel and gaza. So really not a second really theres not been a second of breathing space. You could say i should yeah, you could say i should do tory pr are you in do the tory party. Pr are you in the right job . I know, and all of that is very true and very important, i dont about dont think were talking about the years, though. The last 14 years, though. I think talking what think were talking about what the Prime Minister has promised hes do this year. And hes going to do this year. And hes going to do this year. And hes given five pledges. Hes given us five pledges. Dont exactly all dont ask me exactly what all five are. The question you dont but the question you dont know your five pledges. I know dont go around with i know i dont go around with a was a labour thing. Its fair enough that he doesnt think its fair enough that he doesnt. Its fair. Is it hes. Hes because it because hes. Hes because hes hes working all day. I hes hes working all day. And i think that you put think the idea that you put someone on the spot show that someone on the spot to show that theyve learned mantra and theyve learned the mantra and theyve learned the mantra and they a good or girl they can be a good boy or girl and them by heart. They can be a good boy or girl and no, hem by heart. They can be a good boy or girl and no, no,| by heart. They can be a good boy or girl and no, no, let heart. They can be a good boy or girl and no, no, let meart. They can be a good boy or girl and no, no, let me be clear. No, no, no, let me be clear. I wasnt to put you on i wasnt trying to put you on the and get into the spot and get you into trouble for knowing them, trouble for not knowing them, but the collective but these are the collective five of the nation. But these are the collective five this of the nation. But these are the collective five this is of the nation. But these are the collective five this is whathe nation. But these are the collective five this is what he nation. But these are the collective five this is what he said n. But these are the collective five this is what he said that now, this is what he said that he be judged on. But he wants to be judged on. But theyre all things we as theyre all things that we as a collective try and want collective should try and want to progress towards. Can to make progress towards. Can you the five . To make progress towards. Can you think the five . To make progress towards. Can you thinki the five . To make progress towards. Can you think i tiremembered to make progress towards. Can you thinki tiremembered the i think i just remembered the budget truss did that budget that liz truss did that stuck mortgages up stuck all our mortgages up by record sums. We dont talk thats what we dont talk about enough. This is this well, you see, this is this is fascinating to me because if you cant recite, you cant even recite, not recite, some recite, that sounds like some kind thing, which recite, that sounds like some kdont thing, which recite, that sounds like some kdont intend thing, which recite, that sounds like some kdont intend to thing, which recite, that sounds like some kdont intend to suggest. Which i dont intend to suggest. But if people even know but if people dont even know what five are. So it was, it what the five are. So it was, it was Something Like cut debt, grow the economy, stop the boats, waiting lists. Yeah. Waiting the nhs and waiting lists for the nhs and inflation. There you go. Yeah, weve got them. Yeah, weve got them. Yeah, weve got them. Yeah , we did, but people will judge. Michelle, sorry to interrupt because its a danger being because its a danger of being slightly pro conservative this discussion, theyve had discussion, but theyve had a long time in office on all these things. And the outside of the westminster bubble. Youll westminster bubble. And youll be because youre be aware of this because youre out and about. But people are asking, better off asking, do i feel better off after it is a 14 year conservative leadership . Yeah, thats. Thats the question. You say then to what would you say then to the points that raised . The points that i just raised . Because was, thats because if i was, sunak, thats the would the kind of thing that i would be youve had these be saying youve had these humongous that are humongous global events that are outside the control of any leader, whether it would be starmer or sunak or whoever. I think that there is an attempt by the conservatives to get themselves off the hook for example, the nhs has got record waiting lists. It example, the nhs has got record waiting lists. It didnt under laboun waiting lists. It didnt under labour, no mortgages, mortgages , labour, no mortgages, mortgages, mortgages have gone up and ordinary men and women and families are paying loads of more money. Interest as a result, as it was of what liz truss and Kwasi Kwarteng did overnight. Thats real. They impacted on so many lives and theyre not going to be allowed off the hook i guys complete fantasy mortgage Interest Rates are high. Theyre at the same level as they were under blair, by the way. We had artificially low Interest Rates from 2008 until recently, and that released inflation. Eventually, Mortgage Rates have gone up in to order bnng rates have gone up in to order bring inflation down. That will be one of the five successes, because we will have brought inflation down even further by the end of the year. Almost certainly. Thats the one thing you can bank on in the five, of the five pledges. But the cost of that because inflation is a monetary phenomenon, is that you have to have higher Interest Rates. Thats nothing to do with liz trusss budget. Thats to do liz trusss budget. Thats to do with a strategy for bringing inflation and and weve inflation down. And and weve succeeded in doing that. On the other things, though, its going to be difficult for the government. I think its got to pass the rwanda bill. And i think happen probably think that will happen probably in the end of in the course by the end of april. I think the bill will have got royal royal assent, but he needed, by by then he will have needed, by by then hell the planes hell need to show the planes taking off and people leaving. And then i think people will be convinced something convinced that something is actually in relation convinced that something is acthaty in relation convinced that something is acthat particular in relation convinced that something is acthat particular problem. Ion convinced that something is acthat particular problem. But, to that particular problem. But, you know, there are there are there is progress on some of the other topics, but not necessarily enough , you see many necessarily enough, you see many people now like john, for example, you know, kevin saying that he wants an a general election pretty much straight away whenever we could. But john away whenever we could. But john saying, but when would we even learn labours key policies are . Well, i would say to john that theyre theyre all out there. I mean, theyre so good. Our policies. Right. Daniels parties nicking them. Right. And we were told for years, oh, you cant , you cant clamp down on cant, you cant clamp down on the Tax Exemptions for non doms. Its a terrible idea. It will disincentivise Business People like myself because, you know, or those from abroad. And now or those from abroad. And now the conservative party stole that policy. Whether its on the nhs, schools, crime, gb energy , nhs, schools, crime, gb energy, the environment, industrial strategy, there are Clear Missions that have been set out by keir and the manifesto will be costed. So i have totally respect johns desire for more detail. But, you know, labour are not, in government at the moment and the government are stealing labours policies when they get the chance. And i just get the sense, you know , im get the sense, you know, im trying to be very fair and balanced this. Just get balanced in this. And i just get the sense that people the the sense that people think the tories go, well, tories have had their go, well, they go john, apparently those policies they go john, apparently those polyou just need to look you just need to look slightly harder. Say as slightly harder. You say as well, kevin, the tories, well, kevin, that the tories, for example, shouldnt be let off hook in of off the hook in terms of interest with mortgage. Interest rates with mortgage. What think so many people what i think that so many people shouldnt off the shouldnt be let off the hook, quite frankly, their quite frankly, with their ridiculous. Disagree, ridiculous. And we disagree, but theyre ridiculous panicked response to covid. It was that when call , when you response to covid. It was that when call, when you point when you call, when you point out things like inflation, waiting lists, these Mental Health crises that everyone seems to have these days , you seems to have these days, you can almost boil so much of it down to the over hysterical reaction to covid. This blanket response to lock everybody down irrespective of their risk level. And many of the politicians would have had us locked down for a much, much longer period than they currently did. And i harder lockdown as well. I would say that that is some of the things that that is some of the things that perhaps shouldnt that people perhaps shouldnt forget. Look, we forget. Anyway. Look, when we come break, well come back after the break, well look groaning. Look at him, michelle groaning. Ill a chance ill give him a chance to respond me. I handle respond to me. I can handle that. Can respond to me after that. He can respond to me after the well continue the the break. Well continue the politics also the break. Well continue the politito also the break. Well continue the politito talk also the break. Well continue the politito talk to also the break. Well continue the politito talk to you also the break. Well continue the politito talk to you about. O the break. Well continue the politito talk to you about the want to talk to you about the snp. Its even crazier up snp. Its going even crazier up north, if that is, even to be believed. Liz truss i want to talk about as well. So dont talk about her as well. So dont go anywhere and you in go anywhere and ill see you in two. Hello there. Im Michelle Dewberry, and im with you till 7 00 tonight. There is so much we need to get stuck into tonight. Not least on the politics side of everything. So luckily for me, ive got a great panel of conservative life peer in house of lords, daniel in the house of lords, Daniel Moylan business owner, moylan and the business owner, political former political commentator and former labour councillor kevin craig, who a big groan who was doing like a big groan before the break. Whats the m atter . Matter . Well, i cant say nothing. Every time you mention covid and you talk about the politicians, how they got this wrong, that wrong, yeah, i obliged for wrong, yeah, i am obliged for balance to that we were balance to say that we were faced a historic challenge. Faced with a historic challenge. People were dying left, right and centre, the lockdowns were needed, in my opinion. The vaccines came through. And the vaccines came through. And the biggest scandal actually is the billions of pounds of our public money wasted by contracts to tory pals , the vip fast lanes tory pals, the vip fast lanes e. G. Baroness mone. But they are. Thats good. There you go. See . Consider yourself balanced. We used to yourself balanced. We used to have these arguments at the time, didnt we . We did. This is not too many times to mention. This not hindsight stuff. This is not hindsight stuff. Ladies we to ladies and gents. We used to disagree during those disagree at length during those periods. Remember it well. Periods. I remember it well. Ill never, ever forget it, look, do want to touch upon. Look, i do want to touch upon. What time is it . In about seven minutes time. The lib dem Conference Commence conference will commence just quickly. Tell me, do you conference will commence just quickly. Tell me, do you think the lib dems are still relevant in todays political. Oh, think theyre relevant oh, i think theyre relevant and yeah, because and terrifying. Yeah, because relevant and terrifying and terrifying. Because terrifying. Yeah. Because theres prospect in parts theres a real prospect in parts of the country, especially in the south west and south east, even where theyve got historical theres a real historical roots, theres a real prospect that they will actually win seats at a general election. And that i do find very terrifying because theyre a party with Political Party with no political principle whatsoever, low grade and qualified and poorly qualified politicians. And the idea that theyre going to be sitting there in large numbers in the house of commons, is very worrying. And they might even i cant predict the result of a general election. They might even possibly hold the balance of power. Not on the present polls. I have to admit, but who knows what those how those polls will translate on election day. None of us forecast that. None of us can forecast that. And i think its absolutely terrifying. Weve had experience of before , and id worry of them before, and id worry about it a great deal if i were especially if i were living in that part of the country. I wouldnt want a liberal democrat representing kevin. Wouldnt want a liberal democrat rep well, ing kevin. Wouldnt want a liberal democrat rep well, the kevin. Wouldnt want a liberal democrat rep well, the answer in. Wouldnt want a liberal democrat rep well, the answer to the well, the answer to the question is they are very relevant. They they are going to win seats at the general election , probably most of them election, probably most of them from the conservative party, and they are still a very significant force at local government across the country. And they do deserve, like all the parties, to be the major parties, to be respected and taken seriously. Well, labour, as ive just said, their spring Conference Commenced about five commenced, is in about five minutes time. Case youre minutes time. In case youre wondering , what shall i do with wondering, what shall i do with my weekend friday night . Yeah, you yourself on that you can focus yourself on that stuff. Not until dewbs co stuff. Not until after dewbs co has there, of course. Has finished there, of course. Anyway lets talk hit anyway look, lets talk hit monsters. I could be describing anyone. But anyone. Really . Couldnt i . But im im describing im not. Im describing a specific advert. And watch. Might know this. Hang you might know this. Hang here. Its the hate monster. When youre feeling insecure, when you feel angry, hell be there feeding off the emotions , there feeding off the emotions, getting bigger and bigger. Till hes weighing you down. Hell make you want to have a go at somebody , a neighbour, somebody somebody, a neighbour, somebody on the street on a night out. Security guy on the door. Somebody in the chippy. Your taxi driver. You make you want to vent your anger just because folk look or act different for you. The folk look or act different for you. The hate monster wants you to feel that you need to show youre better than them. Then youre better than them. Then before you know youve committed a hate crime , doesnt it make a hate crime, doesnt it make you feel better though . Does it . You feel better though . Does it . Maybe for a minute. But then you just feel worse, dont you . Just feel worse, dont you . Because the hate just hangs about like a bad smell. But it about like a bad smell. But it doesnt need to be like this. Youre better than that, and you know it. Youve got all this energy. So theres something positive where the hate monster doesnt like that. In fact , he doesnt like that. In fact, he hates it. Go on, be good to yourself. Dont feed the hate monster. Monster. Obviously, im desperately trying my best now not to do my fantastic accent impression. I dont think you can do that in this day and age. If i did, id probably find myself in trouble because these are new laws which commence, from because these are new laws which commeof e, from because these are new laws which commeof april from because these are new laws which commeof april in from because these are new laws which commeof april in scotland, from the 1st of april in scotland, its hate crime law, to be its the hate crime law, to be precise. And theres a lot of criticism. I mean, that advert criticism. I mean, that advert on its own, by the way, says scotland police, Police Scotland , they wrote on their website that was men aged 18 to 30 that it was men aged 18 to 30 from socially excluded communities with ideas about white male entitlement that are particularly likely to be perpetrators of hate crime. I can tell you now, many people have reacted in not a pleasant way that, but these new hate way to that, but these new hate crime laws, so many people now are saying its just its are saying that its just its all gone too far. The police have that going to have said that theyre going to respond. Going to look respond. Theyre going to look at all every single one of these thats reported, which has created in itself created a backlash in itself because police for level because the police for low level crimes really doing as crimes are not really doing as much as they ought to be, perhaps scotland. Where perhaps in scotland. But where are of this . Are you on all of this . Well, the biggest hate well, im the biggest hate crimes at the moment. Of course, the most obvious ones are the outbreak anti semitism were outbreak of anti semitism were seeing country. And there seeing in the country. And there hasnt because hasnt mentioned at all because the left decided that they the left have decided that they want the whole hate want to focus the whole hate crime agenda on the White Working Classes and on their views. And the Police Scotland are quite explicit about that. Are quite explicit about that. If youre poor, if youre white, if youre male, theyre coming for for hate crime. And for you for a hate crime. And all means very often is all it means very often is youre expressing your views that are quite normal in your community and that many people would share. Im deeply worried would share. Im deeply worried about the whole notion of hate crime. Its a new idea. It crime. Its a new idea. It obviously involves censorship. And there are occasions, i grant when censorship might be appropriate in very extreme cases, censorship might be appropriate, but theres a very delicate balance to get there , delicate balance to get there, to get right there. And its been pushed all the wrong way. And people are now being shut up and visited by the police and threatened by the police because of things that theyve said. And who knows . You know, next itll be the things that youve thought or written down and so on. And thought or written down and so on. And private communications in families. Theyll coming in families. Theyll be coming for those as well. And this is a very, very clear left wing agenda to make war on ordinary people. And thats what theyre people. And thats what theyre trying to do. And no mention, of course, of hate crime from the left, the anti semitism were seeing any of that sort, thats all being wiped out of it. The threat , theyre trying to say is threat, theyre trying to say is always going to come from the right. And by the right they right. And by the right they mean the poor, the working mean poor, the poor, the working class, the male, the whites. Kevin i, i, i mean, this story is about something thats been donein is about something thats been done in scotland. I dont think that the ad itself is a particularly effective piece of communication. The ad was a six rubbish. Yeah it was a six week, onune rubbish. Yeah it was a six week, online ad that ran in spring 2023. And its not as such , 2023. And its not as such, unked 2023. And its not as such, linked to the legislation. I dont think its very effective. Dont think its very effective. I think a lot of the people who would be committing hate crimes are not going to look at that ad and go, oh, im going to change and go, oh, im going to change and turn into a nicer person. So i dont think its effective. And you know, daniel and then, you know, daniel is characterising, there. Hes characterising, there. Hes talking about the left this the left that i mean, you know, i just dont agree with a lot of that. Theres a of people on that. Theres a lot of people on the left in the labour party who are concerned about are deeply concerned about increases anti semitism, increases in anti semitism, have been record about been very on the record about it. Character i dont it. Its a character i dont know who daniel thinks has got a war on the White Working Class. But hang on, daniel, just but let me hang on, daniel, just to and ill shut up. I to say, and then ill shut up. I dont know who you think has got a the White Working Class dont know who you think has got abut the White Working Class dont know who you think has got abut i the White Working Class dont know who you think has got abut i came White Working Class dont know who you think has got abut i can tellhite working class dont know who you think has got abut i can tell you working class dont know who you think has got abut i can tell you someone lass dont know who you think has got abut i can tell you someone who , but i can tell you someone who came from that background, its not dont not the labour party, so i dont know has. Know who who has. Well, the leadership of know who who has. Snp. The leadership of know who who has. Snp. Isnt he leadership of know who who has. Snp. Isnt it, leadership of know who who has. Snp. Isnt it, who ership of know who who has. Snp. Isnt it, who areiip of know who who has. Snp. Isnt it, who are doing the snp. Isnt it, who are doing this. They yourself. This. They just said yourself. Its its the its in scotland, its the scottish government, its led by the made reference to the snp. I made no reference to the snp. I made no reference to the labour party. I you said yeah, but i think you said the left the the left and the left. The left. These people yeah. The left. These people are the are extreme leftists. The snp government in scotland, snp Green Coalition in scotland is an extreme left an example of an extreme left wing government. Even in wales. Mark , a recognised mark drakeford, a recognised corbynista, has been running a government for some years. Hes standing down now, running a government for some years, which is well to the left of where keir starmer would be, which is why hes not actually welcome in Keir Starmers councils and leadership office. I find this, whats going on in scotland. These new laws, particularly are concerning because for me, nobody really has got a right not to be offended. I mean, i wouldnt deliberately go out and try and upset someone or hurt somebody or whatever, but life, thatis somebody or whatever, but life, that is life you are allowed to dislike somebody. You are allowed to dislike something. I mean, heaven forbid thats mean, heaven forbid if thats even allowed to hit something. Its not a criminal offence. And this whole notion that actually, if you or if someone perceives that you have acted in a way thats hurtful or whatever hateful , you could then be hateful, you could then be criminalised. Theyve popped up all of these kind of report ing places now. So one of them thats been in the news a lot is a sex shop where people can go in, you can anonymously lock this this can this hair crime. Now, this can all and all the rest all be logged and all the rest of it, it could be someone of it, it could just be someone with a grievance against you. Some of this stuff, the way, with a grievance against you. Some evenis stuff, the way, with a grievance against you. Some evenis ssaying the way, with a grievance against you. Some evenis ssaying inie way, with a grievance against you. Some evenis ssaying in youry, could even be saying in your own home. But mean, home. Yeah, but but i mean, isnt it always the case that people with grievances against you try twist you could always try and twist the abuse it to the law and abuse, abuse it to try get it a person . Try and get it a person . I mean isnt isnt the but i mean isnt isnt the background to a lot of the legislation crimes background to a lot of the legisleust crimes background to a lot of the legisleust trying crimes background to a lot of the legisleust trying to crimes background to a lot of the legisleust trying to makeimes background to a lot of the legisleust trying to make people about just trying to make people feel isnt feel safer . Isnt that isnt that like a good thing to, to seek, you know, to and seek, you know, to try and minimise violence against women, racism, homophobia , racism, you know, homophobia, crime. Isnt that a good thing . Of course. And i want people like i particularly dont like, i dont like awful bullying. I dont nasty bullying. And dont like nasty bullying. And i like, you know, got like, you know, ive got a little and i see the way little boy and i see the way children interact with each other, if a child is other, and i see if a child is being unkind to each other. I dont like of that. But at dont like any of that. But at the always the same time, life isnt always a i know people a bed of roses. I know people are to have negative are allowed to have negative feelings towards things and others without others or whatever without necessarily ending up with a criminal record, because of it. What do you guys make to it at home . Before i move off politics, i do just want to mention another story we just covered in those headlines there. Liz truss. She was very passionate about bill. She passionate about a bill. She wanted to be debated in parliament didnt get round to short, they didnt get round to it in essence, it was about trying make sex, respond , trying to make sex, respond, refer to biological sex. Where are you on her bill . Yeah, i think its completely right. I think its completely right. And the bill should be taken up by the government and passed. And think would passed. And i think pete would do conservatives lot of do the conservatives a lot of good, thats what most good, because thats what most people fact is that people think. The fact is that biological a a fact. Biological sex is a is a fact. Its a scientific fact. Whereas genderis its a scientific fact. Whereas gender is an ideology. Its something thats been invented in the last 50 years or so, and its grown and the idea you can choose your gender is just a lie. It isnt true, biological sex is a discernible fact, and with lots of Scientific Evidence for it. Where are you on liz trusss thoughts . Well, i mean, i, i think theres a lot of consensus around biological sex and those sorts of issues. But liz truss, im afraid, you know, shes just trying desperately to be relevant. And legislation doesnt get through parliament all the time. Private members bills, etcetera. But she she is bills, etcetera. But she she is trying not to talk about her record in office and her playbook. Just, just be a bit of context. Shes just been to america , which was a really america, which was a really controversial visit, and she is trying to reinvent herself after being virtual about her visit to america. Okay. Well at one point she was in the audience and, heard somebody called a hero whos actually, a far right politician and said nothing about it. Right. I know exactly what youre referring to. Youre referring to. Yeah, it did happen. Youre referring to someone else who described. And someone else who described. And i it was Tommy Robinson as i think it was Tommy Robinson as a everyone else a hero. And then everyone else started saying that liz a hero. And then everyone else starte should saying that liz a hero. And then everyone else starteshould have ing that liz a hero. And then everyone else starte should have intervened a hero. And then everyone else starteshould have intervened. Truss should have intervened. And i thought, what a load of nonsense. Who is liz truss to intervene in someone elses thought process about who that person as an individual is regarding as a hero . And i think regarding as a hero . And i think the context, if i remember rightly and correct me if im wrong, what person was wrong, what the person was saying that Tommy Robinson saying was that Tommy Robinson was for the that was a hero for the work that hed done to expose hed done in trying to expose the gangs. The grooming gangs. I think theres a different reading whole event, reading of that whole event, which is that she a former which is that she is a former Prime Minister of our country, gave endorsement to gave tacit endorsement to comments lot comments and speeches that a lot of people vehemently disagree with, and maybe others agree with, and maybe others agree with them. But im just saying, with them. But im just saying, you know, that context , she you know, that that context, she for many people, she is a failed Prime Minister trying to find a way of being relevant. Yeah. Do you know what i can tell you now . Therell be lots of people, perhaps primarily women, biological actually think perhaps primarily women, biol this l actually think perhaps primarily women, biol this whole actually think perhaps primarily women, biol this whole notionially think perhaps primarily women, biol this whole notion ofy think that this whole notion of defining biological sex as being really clear and key when it comes to single sex spaces in particular for women and womens safety, are absolutely key. And theyre very angry and upset today. Actually, that that didnt get the discussion time that it needed. Fingers that it needed. And fingers crossed that it perhaps will in the very near future, because it is a critical, issue for so many people. Your thoughts gbviews gbnews. Com on all of what weve been discussing tonight are very welcome. Ill bnng tonight are very welcome. Ill bring you into the conversation after the break. Let me ask you this. Have you got a parking fine recently . Of them fine recently . 35,000 of them issued private Companies Issued by private companies every single day. What is going on . Ill see you in two. Thats a fair point. Thats a fair point. Hi there. Im Michelle Dewberry keeping you company till 7 00, the tory peer in the house of lords, Daniel Moylan. And the business owner, political commentator and former labour councillor, kevin craig, lisa says kevin didnt answer your question. He dodged it by having a rant about liz truss. What question did i ask . No, i have no idea. Ijust dont i want to stop thinking about liz truss, about her genden said gender bill, you said her gender bill, whatever called, was whatever its called, was relevant. Admitted it was relevant. You admitted it was relevant, kevin, but then you didnt on say why you didnt go on to say why you didnt go on to say why you didnt it. Didnt support it. I didnt i didnt i didnt say i didnt support. I just think that i wanted to witter on about. No, i said no, i didnt hang on, hang on. I said this back to the issue, which is about Womens Womens and the question womens safety and the question of gender. Of sex and gender. What people to hean theres of consensus theres loads of consensus around daniel. Around those issues, daniel. Some, like liz some, some people, like liz truss, want whip up. No, truss, want to whip up. No, because wants to try because she wants to try and project it as issue project and use it as an issue to relevant. Again, this is a to be relevant. Again, this is a disastrous Prime Minister. Response is typical leftist response is to there isnt to say there isnt a disagreement about this. There isnt a culture war. Its all being manufactured by the tories or by the right. But there are real differences on this and theyre physically built differences. You can see them, you go into a building and you have the toilets are arranged like this. Well, theyre in a room. I find it funny. I find it is that is that something that you want to see continue . Thats the question. Thats the question. Well, im interested in listening to what women say. Not my opinion. Im listening to what say on the subject. What women say on the subject. Thats ill listen. Thats what ill listen. Cant supply obviously, i cant supply that. Maybe michelle can. I think people well, yeah, i think people viewers can. I think the people should actually more time actually spend more time listening and listening to actual women and what think, opposed to what they think, as opposed to listening who just wake listening to men, who just wake up one day and think that theyre woman and theyre somehow a woman and therefore regarded as therefore should be regarded as one, you go, andy, says one, there you go, andy, says michelle, youre talking about hate everyone. Hate crime, if i hear everyone. Is all right . Hate crime, if i hear everyone. Is all right . Because is that all right . Because surely inclusive and surely im being inclusive and not diverse. I dont actually think it works like that, andy. Ive got to be honest with you there, liz. Sort of. Liz truss is furious that labour have blocked her debates. Yes, but ive got to say, many people will say it wasnt just labour, because of course, there was a lot of talk about ferrets and things like that, in the run up and beyond, liz truss was a real tory, but it was the work lot that pulled her out, says daryl, gladys says, please, can everyone stop blaming liz for Mortgage Rate rises . It was the banks that were to blame for not raising them earlier on. And she says liz basically became a scapegoat. Oh lord, steve says theres chickens that you had earlier on. They look like the labour front bench. Thats not very nice, is it, labour front bench. Thats not very nice, is it , john says very nice, is it, john says sunak has achieved absolutely nothing. He wasnt even elected. Nothing. He wasnt even elected. Please, can you get him out . There you go. Lets talk parking fines, private parking firms apparently are issuing over 35,000 parking tickets to drivers every single day. It absolutely blew my mind. That figure, where are you on this, kevin . Well , i kevin . Well, i think its a really good story thats been highlighted that youve picked tonight, because i think essentially this comes down to is that there was a new code of practice, the parking code of practice act, it it made its way onto the statute book in parliament, you know, a number of years ago. And it hasnt come into law. And i think this, you know, when were talking about how people feel about issues, i think loads people feel think loads of people feel really powerless and ordered around with the whole parking ticket , seen how the, the rights ticket, seen how the, the rights that you dont have to appeal, how theres no compassion in the system. It feels like youre just being rinsed. So i think just being rinsed. So i think the rac is right to say that drivers feel badly let down. And the government, with the support of all parties , should get on of all parties, should get on and implement this of and implement this code of practice , which will reduce and practice, which will reduce and which will bring in a cap on tickets , because i think that tickets, because i think that some Parking Companies are making excessive profits off the back of drivers and dvla. Back of drivers and dvla. By the way, theyre making a pretty penny as well by selling our dates out to such companies, lord moylan, where are you . Well i think it would be clear theres a difference here between parking on street and getting a fine and parking on private land. I think this is more and i think this is more about parking on private land, because on the because if you park on the street get a parking street and you get a parking ticket, may indeed be given ticket, it may indeed be given to by private but to you by a private company, but they the fines. They they dont set the fines. They act as agents for the local authorities and the local authorities and the local authorities set the fines through democratic and through democratic processes and in like london, they set in places like london, they set them collectively. So its the same across london. Its all agreed the amongst the agreed amongst the amongst the local authorities , so and those local authorities, so and those people do not make a profit from, from the fines. They get paid. Those Companies Get paid for, for offering for, for providing that service and having those people out on the street. Theres a big difference. If you park on private land, you park on private land, you park on private land. You can get really confusing signs, you can get clamped. And oh, and by the way, clamped. And oh, and by the way, if you park on the street, you do have an appeal and there is an appeal system and its easily accessible , you dont need accessible, you dont need lawyers or anything like that. If you want go and appeal. If you want to go and appeal. But people private but these people on private land, appeal. Theres land, theres no appeal. Theres no control over what they charge. Theres no clarity about signs. Signs have to be on the street, have to be absolutely word perfect and spot on. Yet you get the sign wrong. And all the appeals will succeed if youre a local authority. But thats not true if youre on private land. And i think this is more to do with private land. But i agree with you. The government should get on bring but i agree with you. The gov code ant should get on bring but i agree with you. The gov code in. Should get on bring but i agree with you. The gov code in. Ihould get on bring but i agree with you. The gov code in. I dont get on bring but i agree with you. The gov code in. I dont known bring but i agree with you. The gov code in. I dont know whatg the code in. I dont know what this legal challenge consisted of operators , of that the parking operators, but, but you can get but, brought. But if you can get around a legal challenge by having amending the act of parliament to address it, you could get that through in five minutes. Id of thought , well, i minutes. Id of thought, well, i gun you guys at home will be shouting, were you or why are they doing then . They not doing that then . That is a key question and that is a key question isnt all just isnt it . I think weve all just learnt segment that learnt from that segment that were the wrong were all in the wrong job, quite frankly, and we all need to a private parking firm to set up a private parking firm and some private land that and get some private land that we people park on, and we can let people park on, and then and then zap them. Indeed. Indeed steve says michelle, country michelle, if the whole country was and decided not to was like you and decided not to vote, would happen in the vote, what would happen in the country . Ive never told anyone. By country . Ive never told anyone. By the way, this off the back by the way, this is off the back of conversation. We had of the conversation. We had the other ive never other day. Ive never told anybody vote. Its none anybody not to vote. Its none of my business if you vote, if you vote, i hope that you you want a vote, i hope that you do. If you dont, i think do. And if you dont, i think thats too. Just think do. And if you dont, i think thatpoliticians just think do. And if you dont, i think thatpoliticians needt think do. And if you dont, i think thatpoliticians need t01ink do. And if you dont, i think thatpoliticians need to work that politicians need to work harder people to harder to engage people more, to make as many people, make sure that as many people, are politically as engaged make sure that as many people, are ppossibly as engaged make sure that as many people, are ppossibly can engaged make sure that as many people, are ppossibly can be. 3ged they possibly can be. And i feel that right now, the brexit party, when you were a well, got say, i ran well, ive got to say, i ran in last two elections, not in the last two elections, not just once. And when i get accused michelles not, accused of all michelles not, you know, shes not engaged with democracy and all the rest of it, much more it, you cant get much more engaged. Everyone else it, you cant get much more engisoid. Everyone else it, you cant get much more engiso rubbish everyone else it, you cant get much more engiso rubbish thateveryone else it, you cant get much more engiso rubbish that ratherne else it, you cant get much more engiso rubbish that rather than;e was so rubbish that rather than just abstaining, decided to just abstaining, i decided to put where my mouth was put my money where my mouth was and not once did you and stand. Not once did you twice go a ballot. Twice go to a ballot. Know stood in i dont know if you stood in the where were the place where you were registered, you go to registered, but did you go to the you put your the place and you put your ballot paper in box, stood ballot paper in the box, stood there and stood there with are there and i stood there with are michelle does vote when a candidate. And i stood there with a clipboard, checking and i stood there with a clirthings checking and i stood there with a clirthings and checking and i stood there with a clirthings and doing checking and i stood there with a clirthings and doing it1ecking and i stood there with a clirthings and doing it all. Ing off things and doing it all. I was very, very engaged. Now i say, actually that the calibre of people that we have is so lacking that actually i do look around and think, do you know what . Why bother . Why can i Say Something very quickly . Why can i Say Something very quiibecause ive been ive got to because ive been ive got to go to a break two minutes ago, but very quick. Are thousands high there are thousands of high calibre involved in calibre people involved in politics across the parties making sacrifices to do it. Making big sacrifices to do it. There you go. Thats a nice note to end it on, isnt it . Dup torfaen opens up after the break, and i want to talk to you about working from home. Civil servants, apparently balloting about working from home. Civil ser strike apparently balloting about working from home. Civil ser strike action ntly balloting for strike action because theyve got go to work theyve got to go back to work in whats going hello, everybody. Welcome back to dewbs co its my favourite moment of the week, quite frankly. Jubilee tavern is open. The weekend is officially commenced. So cheers to you guys , lord moylan, kevin craig, cheers to you guys at home. Cheers everybody. We could just call it a day there, couldnt we . Just go off to the pub . But no, were were more professional everybody. Professional and not everybody. Because theres one more thing that talk to you that i want to talk to you about. And that is about this whole working whole culture of working from home, because servants now home, because Civil Servants now at for national at the office for national statistics, threatened at the office for national st. Potentially threatened at the office for national st. Potentially on threatened at the office for national st. Potentially on strike. Aned to potentially go on strike. Why . Theyve why . Well, because theyve been asked to the office asked to return to the office and work two a week. And work there two days a week. Kevin. You are a very kevin. Craig, you are a very successful this successful businessman. This whole home culture, whole working from home culture, its changed so much now in society, hasnt it . But is it for the good or not, its partly for the good or not, its partly for the good or not, its partly for the good. And when we talk about this subject, i always like to say that there are many, many people listening or watching jobs wouldnt watching whose jobs wouldnt allow even start have allow them to even start to have this so having said this discussion. So having said that, in the, world of white collar jobs, office jobs, i, collarjobs, office jobs, i, i think that the union in question here risks being a little bit out of touch with the public because its all thats being asked is two days a week, right . Which is what we do in the business that i founded and it, you know, two days a week is not unreasonable. It really isnt. Unreasonable. It really isnt. And insisting on fully remote working. I think that there is working. I think that there is going to be very little support for that. Thats it. Daniel. Yeah, well, i agree and i would, i wouldnt bother with them at all. I think, you know, being at work in an organisation involved is a social relationship, there you acquire a sense of identity and a sense of collaboration with colleagues. And there is learning going on and you judgements about your colleagues , how effective they are. And those all have a big effect on how the organisation runs. And much of that, not necessarily all of it, but much of that is annihilated if youre simply there on the other side of a screen. Yeah. And you only participate occasionally in, in, in meetings. And most of the in meetings. And most of the time youre working unsupervised in your pyjamas , going to pieces in your pyjamas, going to pieces basically. And i think its bad for everybodys , what we call for everybodys, what we call Mental Health nowadays. And its Mental Health nowadays. And its bad for the organisation. I think its bad for productivity. Think its bad for productivity. And i think these guys, if they dont want to work in the office, they should just leave the job or get sacked, in a minute. By the way, i just want to show you remember i showed you that lady that got stuck on the, shutter. Theres been a development that story. Ill development in that story. Ill show in a minute, john show it to you in a minute, john says, are these high says, where are all these high calibre of people in the politics, politics are politics, in politics that are hiding . Hiding . Hiding . Where are they hiding . John theyre everywhere, john. everywhere. Theyre theyre everywhere. Theyre in. Some in the in. There are some in the cabinet. Some the cabinet. There are some in the many in shadow cabinet. Many in the shadow cabinet. Councillors country, councillors across the country, you of all parties you know, people of all parties sacrifice thing for public life, bernard says if anyone doesnt vote, they have no right at all to criticise government or anything. And i agree, by the way, thats why i did say because of the job that i do, im going to force myself this time to get involved. I didnt do job. I assure you do this job. I assure you i wouldnt be, anyway, diana says, can ask you a question, can i just ask you a question, michelle . Civil michelle . Talking about Civil Service on would Service Going on strike. Would we notice, if there have we even notice, if there have gone on strike . And thats a very question, one of my very good question, one of my viewers carol her son viewers said. Carol says her son has been waiting for his driving licence march year. Licence since march last year. This is how effective the they all are, she says. Working from home. Let me just show you this before we go. Did you see that . That lady that got her pants stuck on the shutters . Poor woman. She was leaning casually. Wont she . Up she goes up, goes our shop. Her bag. I think its absolutely fabulous. Of course, absolutely fabulous. Of course, this lady, she absolutely this lady, she went absolutely viral , well, i dont know if viral, well, i dont know if youve seen now theyve made, like a painting of her. Theyve put her now. Shes been a morse as onto this show. So there you go. Look at that. I think its absolutely fabulous, isnt it, anne name, 72 anne hughes, thats her name, 72 years old. She can see the funny side it. Right, years old. She can see the funny side it. Right , after years old. She can see the funny side it. Right, after all that . Yeah, shes absolutely fine. Yeah, shes absolutely fine. She works there, think at she works there, i think at that i think she was that shop i think she was a cleaner or something, anyway, shes, look at shes, shes famous now. Look at that. Shes put forever now that. And shes put forever now on shutters. Its always on those shutters. Its always nice to see the funny nice to be able to see the funny side things, isnt it . Look side of things, isnt it . Look this all got time for. This is all weve got time for. It absolutely flies, doesnt it . When having fun, can when you are having fun, i can tell so people are tell you now, so many people are not appreciating, the whole desire stay at home desire to want to stay at home working forever, pretty much. Anyway, look, thats all ive got for. Kevin. Daniel. Got time for. Kevin. Daniel. Thank thank you. Home. Thank you, thank you. At home. Dont anderson, dont go anywhere. Lee anderson, up next night. A brighter outlook with boxt solar , sponsors of weather on. Solar, sponsors of weather on. Gb news. Hello. Very good evening to you. Welcome to your latest gb news weather update brought to you met office. Many you by the met office. For many of actually going to of us, its actually going to turn chilly tonight. Could turn quite chilly tonight. Could be before some be a touch of frost before some rain tomorrow. Thats in rain arrives tomorrow. Thats in association with a system waiting in the atlantic. Waiting out in the atlantic. Before we have waiting out in the atlantic. Biridge we have waiting out in the atlantic. Bridge of we have waiting out in the atlantic. Bridge of high we have waiting out in the atlantic. Bridge of High Pressure have a ridge of High Pressure building , a ridge of High Pressure building, and a ridge of High Pressure building , and thats going to building, and thats going to quieten down as we quieten our weather down as we go end of the day. Go through the end of the day. So daytime showers so many of the daytime showers will and out , will clear away and die out, leaving a mostly dry and often clear night. As a result, clear night. As a result, because of the clear skies and a bit of a northerly wind, temperatures will take a bit of a its going to a drop. Its going to be markedly colder than recent markedly colder than some recent nights. Is nights. Touch of frost is possible, particularly rural possible, particularly in rural spots , especially parts spots, especially across parts of go through of scotland. As we go through tomorrow itself, then watch out for a few pockets of mist and fog. Thing, once these fog. First thing, once these clear, lots of fine sunny weather across northern and eastern but the eastern parts, but towards the south west here we are going south and west here we are going to see clouds spilling its way in. Wont really reach in. But this wont really reach northern parts northern and eastern parts until later afternoon. Some wet later in the afternoon. Some wet weather around be heavy at weather around could be heavy at times, across times, particularly across northern after northern ireland, but after a chilly start, temperatures rising most places likely to rising so most places likely to get into double figures. Any wet weather through as we go weather clears through as we go through early on sunday, so a bit of a wet start across some southeastern parts perhaps, but thereafter sunday actually looks largely dry. A scattering of showers for sure, and also some outbreaks of more persistent rain across parts scotland rain across parts of scotland and northern ireland. But most of some sunny of us will see some sunny breaks. Doesnt look too breaks. Monday doesnt look too wet, further is on the wet, but further rain is on the cards tuesday. Ill see you cards for tuesday. Ill see you again soon. Bye bye. Looks like things are heating up. Boxt boilers sponsors of weather on gb news. Welcome to the andersons real world. Tonight weve got a cracking show. Weve got left versus right with emma webb and trade unionist andy mcdonald. Trade unionist andy mcdonald. Also got nigel nelson. Hes back on the show, but got glamour model jemma lucy. Its her first time on the show and weve got a legend. An iconic tv star, christopher biggins. But first lets go to the. News. Lets go to the. News. Good evening. Im sophia wenzler in the gb newsroom. Im wenzler in the gb newsroom. Im former Prime Minister liz truss has accused labour of preventing a debate on her bill, which seeks to ban transgender women from female only spaces and prevent them from competing in womens sports. It was due to be discussed in the commons today, but mps appeared to waste time to delay her debate. She told gb news she was frustrated by the opposition parties stalling tactics