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Been incidents taking place with retaliatory strikes from israel against hamas. And you can see smoke there in the distance. This as one of those rockets has made contact with a target. On with the show with a target. On with the show and number 10 has projected the israeli flag onto downing street , sharing the image on x. The Prime Minister said it showed solidarity with the people of israel. It comes after the flag was flashed on to several public locations in the ukrainian capital, kyiv. The flag has also capital, kyiv. The flag has also been shared on public buildings in cities around the world, including and new york. Including berlin and new york. Well gb news understands that labour plans to appoint a covid corruption commissioner if the party wins the next general election. The new role is designed to help recoup billions of pounds of taxpayers money lost during the pandemic. Labour believes there were cases of waste, fraud and fraud contracts. Shadow chancellor Rachel Reeves is expected to make the announcement at this is gb news across the uk on tv in your car, on Digital Radio and on your Smart Speaker by saying play gb news now its time for headliners as. Headliners as. Hello and welcome to headliners. Your first look at mondays newspapers. Im andrew doyle and tonight im joined by comedian Victor Daniels, who began his stand up career in 1999. Around the same time, my other comedian guest achieved the history a level result the best history a level result in the country. But he doesnt like talk about it. So nick like to talk about it. So nick dixon, you both . It was dixon, how are you both . It was actually third lets be actually third best. Lets be factual. Facts. Factual. Oh, gb news the facts. Yeah. Still. Thats yeah. Third best still. Thats not too shabby. Not bad. I know , but no one. Not bad. I know, but no one. No one said oxbridge or anything because comprehensive because i was at a comprehensive school. I could talk about it school. I could talk about it all night. But lets not get too yes, but lets not get too much. How are you, victor . Are you good . Yeah. Want to you good . Yeah. I just want to correct you good . Yeah. I just want to cor|| ct you good . Yeah. I just want to cor|| started comedy in 2022, i started comedy in 2022, year 21. F year 21. To nigerian according to my nigerian passport. Thank you passport. There we go. Thank you for its for the correction. Its important facts important we get these facts absolutely right. Were to absolutely right. So were to going have a quick run through of mondays front before of mondays front covers before we daily mail. We begin the daily mail. Leading with merciless with pawns of merciless terrorists. Most of the front terrorists. Most of the front covers will, of course, be covering the situation in israel. Telegraph has us sends warships and jets to help israel. The guardian violence escalates as death toll surges to over 1000 and the times is running with stunned israel goes to war. The news fears grow for 100 hostages. And finally , the 100 hostages. And finally, the Financial Times. Israel at war after deadly hamas attack. Those were mondays front pages. So were mondays front pages. So obviously very horrific news coming out of israel and theyre all covering it. Were going to start with the times. How are they reporting on this situation, nick . Well, the times has stunned israel goes to war and theyre covering the key parts that britain amongst more than a thousand dead. Theyre referring to nathaniel young, whos tragically and theres nathaniel young, whos tragijake and theres nathaniel young, whos tragijake marlow, d theres nathaniel young, whos tragijake marlow, a theres nathaniel young, whos tragijake marlow, a british also jake marlow, a british person feared kidnapped. Person who is feared kidnapped. And sunak has offered intelligence and military aid and us warships have moved closer to and theyre saying at least 700 israelis have died. So its obviously horrific. Someone its obviously horrific. Someone just referred to it as a sort of new 9 11 there, which it does it does feel like that, doesnt it . Yeah. And its fascinating. We get the story on x now, formerly twitter way wouldnt twitter in a way we wouldnt have we really its have before. So we really its horrific. But we sort of see the real story. Interesting, thats very interesting, isnt these. Isnt it . Is that these. Absolutely. Its impossible to watch videos watch some of these videos that are israel. And are coming out of israel. And but being updated but but were being updated just continually whats going continually about whats going on there , which i suppose on over there, which i suppose is important. We need to know whats going this is whats going on. This is described as their 911, and i think thats right, because its specifically young specifically targeting young civilians. I mean, there can be no justification for anything like this. Cant say jokes on this one. No, no, absolutely not. The only would say is its only thing i would say is its forming our opinion. So just to give a more balanced view, we dont know exactly whats going on with regards to the pricing because the palestinians seem to have done something thats instigated a war. And itjust done something thats instigated a war. And it just seems done something thats instigated a war. And itjust seems like an a war. And it just seems like an odd a war. And it just seems like an odcyeah, i mean, its yeah, well, i mean, its terrorist lets be terrorist activity, lets be honest. Thats what thats what it know, dont think it is. You know, i dont think theres around it. Were theres any way around it. Were going go on to front going to go on to the front cover of mondays telegraph. Going to go on to the front cowtheyrelondays telegraph. Going to go on to the front cowtheyre obviouslyelegraph. Going to go on to the front cowtheyre obviously also aph. So theyre obviously also leading with the israel story. Theres a couple of other stories on this front cover. Its worth looking at. Theyve got border yeah, theyve got Border Force Staff flaunt pride , force staff flaunt pride, epilepsy. And this is kind of kicking on x at the moment. Kicking off on x at the moment. So the home Office Policy seems to Suella Braverman to ignore Suella Braverman concerns a suella concerns and we do a Suella Braverman concerns ignored braverman is concerns ignored story every night . Well, they are ignored. Theyre are routinely ignored. Theyre all so what all ignored. And so what happenedis all ignored. And so what happened is on september 29th, 40, Home Office Officials participated in an online discussion of lgbt issues in which a transgender border force official based at Gatwick Airport told Civil Servants that wearing pride, epaulettes is wait for both welcoming and wait for it both welcoming and a little you may have little warning that you may have your but were not your prejudices, but were not going them. And they going to tolerate them. And they later about were an later talk about were an Inclusive Department and Inclusive Department and inclusive whatever you inclusive country, whatever you happen so its happen to think. So its an inclusive andrew look, inclusive warning. Andrew look, this is my favourite type of warning. So my understanding is that policy, so that the home Office Policy, so you have to be you cant you have to be impartial, . Impartial, right . Point is that and bravermans point is that if pride epaulettes if you wear the pride epaulettes , you are violating that impartiality. Is a fair impartiality. Is that a fair point . Victor, think its point . Victor, i think its a fair point. And as well, its like what message we sending to people message are we sending to people coming the uk that have message are we sending to people corarmy the uk that have message are we sending to people corarmy gay� uk that have message are we sending to people corarmy gay� uk thathat have message are we sending to people corarmy gay� uk thathat might an army of gay people that might strip searches think strip searches . I think its a well, you know what, alexander the great was, was a was a gay military leader and he did pretty well. Pretty well. So maybe we need to frighten them. The spartans. Im scared. Them. The spartans. Im scared. There we go. It does impartiality in it does put impartiality in jeopardy. The person jeopardy. I mean, the person here said, two here continued and said, oh, two mormon missionaries had a problem with me and they were staying soho that made staying in soho and that made him person smile. Its him that person smile. Its like, one, prefer like, well, one, they prefer Church Jesus Christ of latter church of jesus christ of latter day saints. Anyway, it day saints. But anyway, it suggests its an suggests a set of its an ideology meeting you at ideology were meeting you at the with an ideology and the border with an ideology and a very strange. Will a warning. Very strange. Will they to wear sort of they be allowed to wear sort of like images of, i dont know, they be allowed to wear sort of like guevara jf, i dont know, they be allowed to wear sort of like guevara ori dont know, they be allowed to wear sort of like guevara or somethingw, they be allowed to wear sort of like guevara or something or che guevara or something or probably that one. You picked a bad example because , yes, they bad example because, yes, they would allowed that probably, bad example because, yes, they wouthey allowed that probably, bad example because, yes, they wouthey allowed be|t probably, bad example because, yes, they wouthey allowed be allowed ly, but they wouldnt be allowed something a cross. Something else like a cross. Thats a good question, actually. They a actually. Could they have a cross . Actually. Could they have a croscould have something could they have something that of that promotes a sort of ideological do ideological worldview . I do wonder sort stuff, wonder with this sort of stuff, when pride flag, when it comes to the pride flag, i lot of people dont i think a lot of people dont understand what it means. You know, pride flag was know, the old pride flag was a rainbow which all rainbow flag, which was all about and inclusion about unity and inclusion and all it. The new all the rest of it. The new progress which has progress pride flag, which has black stripes, brown stripes, blue pink red blue stripes, pink stripes, red circles people, all circles for intersex people, all this lot gay people this stuff. A lot of gay people hate they consider this hate this and they consider this to be quite anti gay. A lot of women it to be quite women consider it to be quite misogynistic. So much a misogynistic. So much so its a bit of minefield, right . Yeah. Bit of a minefield, right . Yeah. So maybe maybe they think so maybe maybe they should think more go more about it before they go through with it. No, but andrew, theyre right. The right. And their views are the only ones. Only moral ones. Correct . Yeah, was that correct . Yeah, i forgot about that. Key. Yeah, thats key. Yeah, thats key. Its important that we yeah, its important that we remember that. Okay, were going to now the i the to move on now to the i the i news. The. I has story news. What the. I has a story about its also about hostages. Its also talking about reeves ruling out further tax rises. Have you got this one, victor . Yes this is this one, victor . Yes this is labour rules out announcing any more tax rises before next election. Election. Yeah, you called it reeves any tax, further tax rises . Well, thats a good thing, isnt it . I think it is a good thing, but only problem is, does it matter because youre going to freeze on taxes , but to freeze on taxes, but Everything Else is going up. So its what does yes. So its like, what does it matter anymore . Its also i mean, this kind of gesture will obviously be a vote winner. I guess thats what theyre trying there. But theyre trying to do there. But do they need a vote winner . I mean, nick, mean, at this point, nick, theyve matter theyve been getting no matter what they said. Well, they would struggle to get wouldnt get them any higher, wouldnt they . I mean, much they . I mean, i mean, how much higher really go . So higher could they really go . So its great news. Its not its not great news. Yeah, not that yeah, its a sort of not that its massive story is it . Its not a massive story is it . I mean, theyre going to use this vat revenue from private schools, a bad policy. This vat revenue from private sch yeah, a bad policy. This vat revenue from private sch yeah, be a bad policy. This vat revenue from private sch yeah, be a itoi policy. This vat revenue from private sch yeah, be a ito sunak,. But yeah, to be fair to sunak, he said i mean, its he has said i mean, its obviously its terrible how high taxes, out taxes, but hes pointing out that the key that inflation is the key because thats the real tax rise by inflation in real by halving inflation in real terms, have money. By halving inflation in real ten i 5, have money. By halving inflation in real terrl mean, have money. By halving inflation in real terrl mean, moste money. By halving inflation in real terrl mean, most of money. By halving inflation in real terrl mean, most of the money. By halving inflation in real terrl mean, most of the morey. I mean, most of the more interesting stories been interesting stories has been from party from the conservative Party Conference week that was conference this week that was just generator. All labour do yeah, all labour have to do is any massive is not make any massive mistakes. Thats it. All have to do. So. So we will nothing. Thats so we will do nothing. Thats basically theyre trying basically what theyre trying to say. Could take the say. Well they could take the biden just hide in a biden approach, just hide in a Basement Campaign basement for the whole campaign and win they and theyll probably win if they do very much. And theyll probably win if they do yeah. Ery much. And theyll probably win if they do yeah. Okay. Jch. And theyll probably win if they do yeah. Okay. Well, were going yeah. Okay. Well, were going to move on the next front to move on now to the next front coven to move on now to the next front cover. This oh, the cover. Whats this one . Oh, the daily victor, this makes daily star. Victor, this makes me this story. Daily star. Victor, this makes me bad. This story. Daily star. Victor, this makes me bad. Hello . 1is story. Daily star. Victor, this makes me bad. Hello . Hello . . Daily star. Victor, this makes me bad. Hello . Hello . The its bad. Hello . Hello . The bedbugs. I mean. Just because the yeah, just because the headune yeah, just because the headline terrible. Headline is terrible. Thats what we say this what upsets me. We will say this only goodness sake. Only once, for goodness sake. Basically theyre saying but basically theyre saying that french sending not that the french are sending not sending saying sending over, but theyre saying that are coming that a lot of bedbugs are coming over france. And theyve over from france. And theyve even found bedbugs even found some bedbugs from france underground. France on London Underground. Happened . So france on London Underground. Mean, happened . So france on London Underground. Mean, it happened . So france on London Underground. Mean, it is happened . So france on London Underground. Mean, it is a happened . So france on London Underground. Mean, it is a seriousappened . So france on London Underground. Mean, it is a serious pointed . So france on London Underground. Mean, it is a serious point in . So i mean, it is a serious point in a way. Is that in paris, theyre having this massive explosion of bedbugs and theyre having a serious problem with this infestation. But theyre talking now how its going to come now about how its going to come over to the uk. Do do bedbugs swim . How would they swim . How do they how would they achieve , come on. Achieve this eurostar, come on. They bought a kit and then they just get on board. Theyre smarter we thought. I mean, smarter than we thought. I mean, bedbugs, grim. Bedbugs, it is properly grim. Those creatures , but shocking. I just looked and thought, its just another decline of london. Britain. London. Decline of britain. Sorry like bedbugs on the tube, you that people you know, suggests that people are sleeping there. Maybe you know, suggests that people are sbutiing there. Maybe you know, suggests that people are 5 but theyre re. Maybe you know, suggests that people are sbut theyre notviaybe you know, suggests that people are 5 but theyre not just e they are, but theyre not just bedbugs, theyre mutant. Bedbugs, a e. Theyre mutant. Super sorry. It super bedbugs. Im sorry. Yes it says mutant. Says clearly here. Mutant. Super bedbugs. Says clearly here. Mutant. Super bedbugs. And that. What bedbugs. And i doubt that. What does mean . I doubt thats does that mean . I doubt thats hyperbole star. Hyperbole from the star. No, they technical thats hyperbole from the star. No, tttechnical technical thats hyperbole from the star. No, tttechnical description. L thats hyperbole from the star. No, tttechnical description. Andats a technical description. And they of all they come from france, of all places , as if they havent done enough. Its the only acceptable form of isnt it . Of xenophobia, isnt it . Is. Im utilising it. It is. And im utilising it. Yeah i yeah i think its a bit of bang out of order france because, out of order on france because, i mean, you been to london i mean, have you been to London Underground in amount mice . Underground in amount of mice . Theres london than theres more mice in london than there is people. So we cant say were some wonderful, clean country. So we cant say were some wor exactly. Clean country. So we cant say were some worexactly. The1 country. Will exactly. The bedbugs will make things better. Anything. Make things better. If anything. Just more diversity. Mice are yeah, but the mice are citizens thats citizens of this country. Thats the they paid the key difference. They paid their. Their mice taxes. British mice. Have british mice. You have to conclude into the conclude the bedbugs into the lgbt flag. Thats what they probably will. Dont give them ideas. Absolutely ideas. They absolutely might. Okay, the okay, well, look, thats the front covered. Do join front pages covered. But do join us part two for criticism of us in part two for criticism of the bbc. Starmer planning to scrap rishis plans and the dangers of relying on it. See you in a moment radio. Welcome back to headliners. Your first look at mondays newspapers. Im andrew doyle, and im still here with comedians. Victor daniels and nick dixon. Were to going kick off section with daily off this section with the daily mail, secretary not mail, the home secretary is not her words about whats going to happen to hamas supporters. Victor, youve got this. Yep shes not mucking about. Suella braverman warns full force the law will be used force of the law will be used against support the against those who support the hamas and intimidate jews in britain. As the met police steps up patrols in london after israel attacks. Wow well, its been pretty grim. I mean, some of the footage of sort of people celebrating these terrorist activities on the streets of london, that kind of thing. Just its just thing. Like its just its just gross. Its just so unpleasant that its celebrating. But there voicing their but but there voicing their concerns attacking palestine. Thats not what it looks like, though, is it . It can look. It can look however once looked. However it once looked. But thats happening because however it once looked. But that they happening because however it once looked. But that they supportiening because however it once looked. But that they support their; because however it once looked. But that they support their country. they they support their country. Im not. Yeah, but the point i mean, the know, the the point is, you know, the image celebrating , its just image of celebrating, its just not surely, to not appropriate, surely, to be celebrating when is citizens celebrating when it is citizens being paraded , tortured, abused. Being paraded, tortured, abused. You what mean . Its just you know what i mean . Its just its just not whichever political aspect you take on this, there surely has to be some level of just restraint, just as a matter of human decency, right . Yeah someone on sky news said they were full of joy, of were really full of joy, full of pride happened. You pride at what has happened. You see, ask palestinians pride at what has happened. You seethe ask palestinians pride at what has happened. You seethe street ask palestinians pride at what has happened. You seethe street or|sk palestinians pride at what has happened. You seethe street or somelestinians on the street or some anyway, about the attacks. So its pretty shocking. And suella had a saying a lot of criticism for saying multiculturalism has failed very recently is surely recently. But this is surely what meant, that the what she meant, that the downside multiculturalism what she meant, that the downshave multiculturalism what she meant, that the downs have people ulturalism what she meant, that the downs have people ultur. Dont if you have people who dont feel havent assimilate feel british havent assimilate or integrated they obviously or integrated and they obviously feel because the feel palestinian because the only who probably feel only people who probably feel british who feel this way are left weve left wing intellectuals. Weve noticed, and since this has happened. Know , why else happened. So, you know, why else can you say . But even if you if you only feel palestinian, you can still youre still a human being with basic human empathy. Being with basic human empathy. Right. You know, i mean, i dont see why that goes out. The window. I do agree with you. But i think what theyre saying is that israel attacks palestine. So do something that israel attacks palestine. So there, do something that israel attacks palestine. So there, they do something that israel attacks palestine. So there, they see something that israel attacks palestine. So there, they see it. Omething that israel attacks palestine. So there, they see it. Inething that israel attacks palestine. So there, they see it. I knomg back there, they see it. I know its bad, theyre seeing it its bad, but theyre seeing it as of to celebrate. And as a form of to celebrate. And also protest. Well, then this comes into the what be the question of what should be permitted of permitted in terms of expression, right . Because this sort going on the sort of stuff going on on the streets. But all know is i streets. But all i know is i look at that and i just think its so deeply its so its so deeply unpleasant. I i sort of dont know to i cant get know what to again, i cant get into mindset. I agree with into the mindset. I agree with you again. But think the key issue is but i think the key issue is how america how can britain and america stop israel and palestine from fighting . Wont israel and palestine from fig any] . Wont israel and palestine from fig any of wont israel and palestine from fig any of this . Wont be any of this . That is a massive issue well, that is a massive issue thatis well, that is a massive issue that is huge. Well, were that is huge. Okay. Well, were going to on the going to move to on the telegraph. Is story telegraph. This is a story about the importance language. Nick the importance of language. Nick i got this. I think youve got this. Pressure to rip up yeah. Bbc pressure to rip up style guide for refusing to call hamas fighters terrorists. So a lot noticed this. They lot of people noticed this. They noficed lot of people noticed this. They noticed using like noticed the bbc using words like gunman and militants and people thought, you know, especially lots bbc refusing to say the bbc refusing to say terrorists what seems like terrorists for what seems like an ostensible terror attack . Horrific videos weve horrific images and videos weve seen and the answer is it seen on x . And the answer is it comes the bbc style comes down to the bbc style guide, do that, guide, where they do that, right . They dont want to right . So they dont want to call them terrorists. And presumably a concern presumably because of a concern about doubt. About impartiality, no doubt. And hard. And obviously its hard. But this clear example, i would this is a clear example, i would say, going wrong. And say, of that going wrong. And its not by way, its say, of that going wrong. And its ast by way, its say, of that going wrong. And its as if by way, its say, of that going wrong. And its as if palestinians vay, its say, of that going wrong. And its as if palestinians as, its say, of that going wrong. And its as if palestinians as alls say, of that going wrong. And its as if palestinians as all of not as if palestinians as all of hamas, its not as if. So its not as if its the bbc trying to be impartial, but theyre too going far because its reasonable to use the word terrorist for hamas. It reminds me of the me a little bit of when the washington called Al Washington post called al baghdadi religious baghdadi an austere religious scholar. Not scholar. Thats right. Its not quite as that, but quite as absurd as that, but its in that ballpark of language tries tone down language that tries to tone down things be things that really shouldnt be toned down. Know, back day you know, back in the day when the ira active, if my when the ira were active, if my memory me, bbc did memory serves me, the bbc did describe them terrorists at describe them as terrorists at that they . I dont know. That would be an interesting question because similar mean, question because similar i mean, in you know, hamas is question because similar i mean, inproscribed you know, hamas is question because similar i mean, inproscribed terroristw, hamas is question because similar i mean, inproscribed terrorist group. Ias is a proscribed terrorist group. Its not just about about so its not just about about the language thats the delicacy of language thats a fact. So thats just in terms of accurate reporting , surely of accurate reporting, surely they should be described as terrorists. Yes. Terrorists. Yes. But to bbc, i think theyve got a lot on their plate right now. So they just dont want to go into that world of terrorists. They just look, lets be impartial on everything. I would say they definitely have their plate. But have a lot on their plate. But on hand, theyre being on the other hand, theyre being condemned, theyre being criticised sorts of criticised by all sorts of people you people on this. You know, getting you would people on this. You know, gettirthought you would people on this. You know, gettirthought was you would people on this. You know, gettirthought was was would people on this. You know, gettirthought was was important have thought was was important anyway were to on anyway, were going to move on to next story. Oh, victor, to this next story. Oh, victor, i this is the express keir i think this is the express keir starmer want to take starmer doesnt want to take credit elses work. Credit for someone elses work. Yeah, starmer, said. Keir starmer announces he will plans as will scrap rwandan plans as Prime Minister, even if its working. Working. But thats the key thing, isnt if its working, isnt it . Even if its working, he of it. He will get rid of it. How can it be working . So some catch me if im wrong. Yeah. Someone comes into the uk illegally . Going yeah. Someone comes into the uk illwsendi . Going yeah. Someone comes into the uk illwsend them going yeah. Someone comes into the uk illwsend them to going yeah. Someone comes into the uk illwsend them to rwanda . Going to send them to rwanda . Apparently plane. Apparently on a plane. Apparently on a plane. Could that ever be how could that ever be working . How could that ever be worwell, i mean, theyre trying well, i mean, theyre trying to find some way to deal with the migration issue. Says the migration issue. Labour says its got the magic formula. You know, labour said that they will its got the magic formula. You know,this. Nur said that they will its got the magic formula. You know, this. Well, d that they will its got the magic formula. You know,this. Well, iveat they will its got the magic formula. You know,this. Well, ive gotley will its got the magic formula. You know,this. Well, ive got av will solve this. Well, ive got a reverse question then. Somebody to okay, so somebody goes to rwanda illegally . Yes. Can we send to croydon . Send them to croydon . Wish on i wouldnt wish that on anyone to be fair. Nick, what do you think about that . I mean, you think about that . I mean, laboun you think about that . I mean, labour, they claim that way labour, they claim that the way to this to deal with to tackle this is to deal with the criminal gangs. You know, you stifle the criminal gangs the criminal gangs. You know, you then the criminal gangs the criminal gangs. You know, you then the crimiwithjangs the criminal gangs. You know, you then the crimiwith the|s and then you deal with the situation know, it is situation and you know, it is absolutely all the absolutely true for all the flack the tories flack that the tories are getting trying deal getting about trying to deal with sake of the with this for the sake of the people on the boats, you need to deal it because its deal with it because its incredibly die incredibly dangerous. People die as they cross. Theyre being exploited so exploited by gangsters. So is laboun exploited by gangsters. So is labour, they the labour, right . Do they have the magic deal with this . Magic formula to deal with this . Say when well, easy to say that when youre isnt youre not in government, isnt it . What happened here was victoria asking Victoria Derbyshire was asking him if its him the question if its working, not working, would you still not support he was like, support it . And he was like, correct. Was she correct. And the reason was she was the numbers was saying, what if the numbers are but his argument was saying, what if the numbers are its but his argument was saying, what if the numbers are its a but his argument was saying, what if the numbers are its a tiny but his argument was saying, what if the numbers are its a tiny number argument was saying, what if the numbers are its a tiny number ofgument was its a tiny number of individuals who go to individuals who will go to rwanda. Hes saying even if rwanda. So hes saying even if the in decline, the numbers are in decline, it wouldnt enough decline wouldnt be enough of a decline. Youve tackle the. Youve got to tackle it at the source. And hes basically source. And then hes basically saying doesnt in the saying he doesnt believe in the policy. She asked it, policy. So the way she asked it, he essentially refused the premise question. Is premise of the question. She is saying even if there was a great success, everyone could see the numbers it was numbers were going down, it was working, hes working, youd still scrap. Hes like, yes, i would, because he doesnt believe will doesnt believe it will ever work degree. Work to a sufficient degree. This is one of those but this is one of those issues parties, issues that both parties, both major say they to major parties say they have to resolve aware that resolve and theyre aware that this to this is really important to the electorate. Poll poll this is really important to the ele that. E. Poll poll this is really important to the ele that everyone ll poll this is really important to the ele that everyone is poll this is really important to the ele that everyone is concerned say that everyone is concerned sending them to rwanda is not even an option. It doesnt sense. It doesnt make sense. It doesnt make sense. They think it well, i mean, they think it makes sense. I dont think it particularly makes sense either. To stick up for i think just to stick up for the gives britain the rwandans, who gives britain the rwandans, who gives britain the people to rwanda . Well, the rwandan well, i think the Rwandan Government is quite keen on this. Im sure the government are give them a of but give them a bit of money, but what about people . Have the what about the people . Have the people voted this in . No, they havent. People voted this in . No, they havwell, no, im not sure what well, no, im not sure what the themselves are. The people themselves are. I think the people themselves who are traffickers to are paying traffickers to come over want be are paying traffickers to come over yeah want be are paying traffickers to come over yeahi want be are paying traffickers to come over yeah i mean want be are paying traffickers to come over yeah i mean thats. Nt be are paying traffickers to come over yeah i mean thats. But. Be here. Yeah i mean thats. But. But illegal. Thats but its illegal. Yeah, thats illegal. So tackle that. But dont send rwanda. So tackle that. But dont send okay. Rwanda. So tackle that. But dont send okay. Rwarwell what no. Okay. Well well see what happens labour sort of happens when labour sort of i think at this point think inevitably at this point get in and see they can solve get in and see if they can solve this issue as they claim. Were going express. Going to stick with the express. This inspiring story for this is an inspiring story for anyone erase their anyone who wants to erase their mistakes the digital age. Mistakes in the digital age. Would nice. Yeah the that would be nice. Yeah the express ignore tory express say ignore it. Tory defends starmer defends keir starmer over terrifying him terrifying fake video of him swearing not swearing at staff. Its not terrifying. Word terrifying. Ridiculous word there. Talking about there. Theyre talking about sir simon clarke, who said you should ignore this because its a you dont know a deep fake if you dont know what video is. Been what the video is. Its been massive today. Massive on the today. Cant it. We cant play it. We cant play it. We cant play it. We play it because we we cant play it because we go out of 5 am. But its starmer saying that tablet f sake told you didnt sake i literally told you didnt i. F sake etcetera. He says i. F sake etcetera. And he says a of things that we a lot of things like that and we know cant be starmer because know it cant be starmer because hes opinion. Hes expressing a clear opinion. Yes. So thats how we know yes. And so thats how we know its him. And a degree of its not him. And a degree of emotion. Thats emotion. Exactly. And thats probably why sir simon clarke wants cause he wants to tone it down, cause he doesnt people to think doesnt want people to think that suddenly got passionate. Well, its kind important well, its kind of important as that tories step as well that the tories step up and doni as well that the tories step up and dont listen deep and say, dont listen to deep fakes, course this fakes, because of course this could to them just as could be applied to them just as easily. Could get a easily. You could easily get a deepfake listen to deepfake of anyone i listen to the record. Does. Mean, the record. It does. I mean, scary. It sounds accurate. Scary. It sounds very accurate. Have it have you heard it . Because it sounds its more sounds like starmer. Its more scary anything because scary than anything because are you me that this weve you telling me that this weve got technology can got technology now that can mimic voice . Got technology now that can miryes. Voice . Got technology now that can miryes. And ice . That ive got yes. And say that ive got three wives and i get blamed for having three wives and i get blamed for havllg three wives and i get blamed for havi mean, and youre saying i mean, and youre saying that now because recording that now because that recording has yes. Has gone out. Yes. Want it known and you want it known that you and dont want you have four and you dont want people youre reduced people to think youre reduced your wife. Thats other problem, thats the other problem, isnt things are isnt it, that when things are authentic, they can claim its deepfake. So, you know, thats the could have i mean, trump could have used that in with the that back in the day with the locker talk. He have locker room talk. He could have said, folks, know, locker room talk. He could have s mean, folks, know, locker room talk. He could have smean, got folks, know, locker room talk. He could have s mean, got outolks, know, locker room talk. He could have s mean, got out of s, know, locker room talk. He could have s mean, got out of the know, locker room talk. He could have s mean, got out of the wholew, thing. Well, exactly. I think i do find this quite quite. We need to this technology will to destroy this technology will destroy im with on that destroy it. Im with you on that terminator. To the terminator. Yes. Go to the source. Absolutely. Absolutely take source. Absolutely. Absolutely takyes, skynet. Thats what it is. No, what else is concern me, though, people like though, a number of people like sophy Tom Tugendhat though, a number of people like sophy politicianstugendhat though, a number of people like sophy politicians haveidhat and various politicians have said a threat to said that its a threat to democracy and that always scares me that me when they start using that kind because usually me when they start using that kind means because usually me when they start using that kind means theyre ecause usually me when they start using that kind means theyre about usually me when they start using that kind means theyre about to sually that means theyre about to say that means theyre about to say that should shut down that gb news should be shut down and all stop eating and we should all stop eating meat. You know what mean . When meat. You know what i mean . When they threat to they start saying threat to democracy, it is essentially actually a threat to the well, its a threat to the human is. But you know, human race. It is. But you know, listening to that and hearing what will they do . But on the other hand, even if that real, it actually if that were real, it actually wouldnt bother me if keir starmer caught off starmer was caught in an off camera swearing. So what camera moment swearing. So what youre telling me the other politicians they politicians dont swear. They turn we swear turn the air blue. We swear as soon as camera oh, soon as the camera stops. Oh, mean foul mouth. Yeah. You are so would it that bad anyway . No, it would prefer no, it would make me prefer starmer he starmer and think that he actually has some standards and wants hes wants to get things done. Hes like, messing with my like, youre messing with my ipad. Ive you many ipad. Ive told you so many times. Competence. Times. I want competence. What about . Is that what its about . Is that what its about . Its about idea. Its its about an idea. Its about yeah. About an ipad. Yeah. So message to starmer so the message to starmer is just you and youll just say it was you and youll get more votes. Just say it was you and youll get i nore votes. Just say it was you and youll get i nore vthats probably just say it was you and youll get i nyeah,hats probably just say it was you and youll get i n yeah, absolutely. ly just say it was you and youll getinyeah, absolutely. It right. Yeah, absolutely. It makes more interesting. Makes it more interesting. Certainly okay. Mondays guardian certainly okay. Mondays guard students coventry three students in coventry because computer because a computer said no. Glitch has left us yeah. It glitch has left us facing from facing deportation from uk claimed basically facing deportation from uk claimnstudents basically facing deportation from uk claimnstudents tried basically facing deportation from uk claimnstudents tried b hand ly these students tried to hand in their are international these are International Students these are international stuwlnternational these are international stuw International Students . These are international stuwlnternational students . Yeah. International students . Yeah. Trying their work. Trying to hand in their work. But because a glitch, it they but because of a glitch, it they missed and if missed a deadline. And now if they the uk to catch up, they stay in the uk to catch up, yeah, they will be deported. So yeah, they will be deported. So theyve got a dilemma right. But theyve got a dilemma right. But my question is , how is it they my question is, how is it they can afford £17,000 a year . Well its 17,000 a year for international. This is why uk universities have so many International Students. They pay so much more. Students. They pay so much more. But they dont get no student loan or anything like that. So theyve be rich. Theyve just got to be rich. So question is, who so the question is, who is the country . Britain the third world country . Britain or these other countries . Because kids from london can because no kids from london can be afforded no £17,000. I would say they definitely cant. This looks like just a glitch the computer. Cant glitch with the computer. Cant you just fix it . Cant someone just fix it . Well, no, because they now elapsed visa because elapsed their their visa because it put them their visa it put them over their visa time. They cant theyre time. So now they cant theyre due deported because they due to be deported because they cant get their degree in time. They can only apply for a graduate degree, but they cant get their graduate degree because get their graduate degree becausnbecause glitch. So degree because of the glitch. So theyre in a catch 22. Theyre in situation. In an impossible situation. Resolve. Just its easy to resolve. Just go back about palestine. Its pakistan. Think its pakistan. I think pakistan. Sorry. And just work from home because did exam because they did the exam working from home anyway. Seems the well, that seems to be the way going. Way things are going. The british yeah, but then the british universities get their universities wouldnt get their money say, money because, as you say, i mean, the guardian has found that harsh example here that a very harsh example here is very unfortunate. But in general, university thing is very unfortunate. But in ge a eral, university thing is very unfortunate. But in gea bit, university thing is very unfortunate. But in gea bit, scam, rsity thing is very unfortunate. But in gea bit, scam,rsity it . 1g is very unfortunate. But in gea bit, scam, rsity it . So is a bit of a scam, isnt it . So many coming in, they many people coming in, they have family in and they do family that come in and they do some is not some dodgy degree. This is not one, good this one, this is a good one. This is structural engineering. But there of one of there is a bit of this is one of there is a bit of this is one of the proper degrees, proper degree. I allow. Yes thats my new degrees. New job. Stamping degrees. That. New job. Stamping degrees. Dixon that. New job. Stamping degrees. Dixon approved that. New job. Stamping degrees. Dixon approved degrees t. New job. Stamping degrees. Dixon approved degrees. New job. Stamping degrees. Dixon approved degrees. Not nick dixon approved degrees. Not these mickey degrees like these mickey mouse degrees like drama although only drama, although it is only university of coventry. Can calm down. So we can all calm down. So we can all calm down. Well, and yeah, well, swings and roundabouts, isnt it . Well, were move now that were going to move on now that is two. Do is the end of part two. But do come for part three. Were come back for part three. Were going to discussing water going to be discussing water security, oil security, editing the bible, oil and relief. Dont and unusual pain relief. Dont go youre listening to gb news radio. Radio. Welcome back to headliners. Welcome back to headliners. Your first look at mondays newspapers. Were getting newspapers. Were getting straight into it with mondays independent. And nick, what is Anneliese Dodds up to . Anneliese dodds up to . Well, she said that labour would introduce no loopholes ban on conversion therapy , and its on conversion therapy, and its one of these euphemistic terms where you go, oh, that sounds fine, course you fine, but then of course you look its trans look into it. Its a trans inclusive conversion inclusive ban on conversion therapy, basically means therapy, which basically means you wont able to guide a kid you wont be able to guide a kid anymore sure anymore and say, are you sure this great idea . They this is a great idea . They call that now. That conversion therapy now. So this children risk if this puts children at risk if you rid of that idea. So a you get rid of that idea. So a very worrying development , the very worrying development, the kind going to kind of thing thats going to happen kind of thing thats going to hapreople should be worried why people should be worried about them, people saying it cant worse tories. Cant be worse than the tories. It absolutely can. The other thing says, people thing is, she says, people responsible hate responsible for anti lgbt hate crime receive the crime would also receive the tougher sentences deserve, crime would also receive the toughtcouldtences deserve, crime would also receive the toughtcould mean, deserve, crime would also receive the toughtcould mean, letsdeserve, crime would also receive the toughtcould mean, lets faceve, crime would also receive the toughtcould mean, lets face it,. Which could mean, lets face it, a rude tweet or something , which could mean, lets face it, a rude tweet or something, and then suddenly youll be cracked down. Down on by labour. You do . You yeah. What do you do . You have this, victor . Yeah. Well i mean, if this comes in, i can see a lot of african priests are going to be out of work. It is worry. It is a worry. It is a worry. It is a worry. It is a worry. It is a worry. Some ways im but im in, in some ways im with buti but im in, in some ways im with but i think youre with it. But i think if youre allowed to encourage. Yes, then you should be allowed to discourage. Yes one thing. Yeah. And the other thing is, if people want to say they want to identify as a woman, a bear, a flying eagle, whatever, you need to go all the way with the operations. Now, i want a full operations. Now, i want a full be able to have operations to be like bear. Be able to have operations to be like if bear. Be able to have operations to be like if thats an eagle, if im if thats an eagle, if im talking you and you say talking to you and you say i identify a bear, yes, i want identify as a bear, yes, i want the full operation. If identify as a even if you identify as a woman, to full, woman, you have to be a full, very rigorous standards. Very rigorous standards. Enough. Victor, enoughs enough. Victor, enoughs enough. Im talking to im im. Im talking to im talking to a man whos dressed as and saying as a woman and hes saying i should sheila, hes should call him sheila, but hes got no, you need to got a beard. No, you need to have full operation. This is have the full operation. This is if bear. If youre a bear. Actually, cash , salmon. Actually, cash, salmon. And with mouth and attack with your mouth and attack people in the woods. Yes this is something that Graham Linehan has talked about because he a lesbian dating site he went on a lesbian dating site and didnt change anything about his to make the point his appearance to make the point that this lesbian. How did he that this lesbian. How did he do . He pretty well he do . Yeah, he did pretty well. He pulled he was quite happy with do . Yeah, he did pretty well. He pu but he was quite happy with do . Yeah, he did pretty well. He pu but he ihe quite happy with do . Yeah, he did pretty well. He pu but he ihe was e happy with do . Yeah, he did pretty well. He pu but he ihe was making with it. But but he was making exactly point. There are exactly that point. There are people and lesbians people with beards and lesbians dont like men really dont like men that really shouldnt be controversial, shouldnt be controversial, should it . I know it shouldnt. And doddie weir says, i know its been a difficult year for many lgbt people rising hate lgbt plus people rising hate crime. I lgbt plus people rising hate crime. I mean, has it lgbt plus people rising hate crime. I mean, has it really . Crime. I mean, has it really . No, really. It seems they no, not really. It seems they dominate the entire culture. Its crime its the way that hate crime statistics. Statistics are reported. Elevates its actually it elevates every year because it has to. Right. Because its all about perception. Anyone who says i perception. So anyone who says i perceive thing perceive that this thing happened because it was happened because of it was motivated homophobia , they motivated by homophobia, they add the stats actually add it to the stats and actually , crime has , in real terms, hate crime has continually been going down for many, years. Yeah. So this many, many years. Yeah. So this sort but is sort of stuff. But this is interesting about conversion therapy gay therapy because we think of gay conversion they conversion therapy as what they used in the 60s where used to do back in the 60s where they plugged gay up to they plugged gay men up to electrodes, of electrodes, cruel forms of torture. Yeah, but thats not whats going on here. Theyre now about conversion now talking about conversion therapy trans conversion therapy for trans conversion therapy. A therapist therapy. Thats just a therapist saying kid , maybe theres therapy. Thats just a therapist sayingissues but it to talking able to do whatever they want. Children, it to talking able to do whatever they want. Children, talking to talking to children, talking to children, are children, you know, children are not where they can not at the stage where they can make they dont make those kind of they dont care as i can see. But care as far as i can see. But i mean, hope youre wrong, nick, mean, i hope youre wrong, nick, that labour make things that labour wont make things worse. Going to be so worse. But its going to be so much and everyones going much worse and everyones going to thought it to be like, oh, we thought it could be worse. Its to so and its going to be so bad. And then going then farage is going to come through win, right . Through and win, is that right . Remember, all of but remember, nick, all of the ideology, the gender identity, ideology, madness has come in under under the tories that is true. Just that going to its just that its going to get great. I know it get even worse. Great. I know it seems impossible. Seems impossible. Shot and then set up the shot and then starmer yeah. A starmer scores. Yeah. To use a football analogy, which i never do. You nailed. I dont understand sport. Okay, do. You nailed. I dont undergoing sport. Okay, do. You nailed. I dont undergoing to sport. Okay, do. You nailed. I dont undergoing to move. Okay, do. You nailed. I dont undergoing to move. Oinow to were going to move on now to mondays. And this is mondays. I victor. And this is another issue that is dividing the British Public into two halves because we dont have enough. I think its enough of that. I think its a nonsense story. Anyway, there we go. Half but anyway, there we go. Half of think of British Public think the government provide government is failing to provide access safe drinking water. Access to safe drinking water. Do they . Do they . Do they . Exactly. Exactly. Ive never heard anyone talk about this issue. Is it really the case that this is a hot button topic . I mean, i cant speak for croydon, but britains not a third world country. There is enough country. Enough water in this country. Im , this a weird im sorry, this is just a weird ive never had the issue of turning a tap and water not emerging. Never. No this does seem a weird one. As someone just made this up. Nick. Well, this very strange. Well, this is very strange. 70 surveyed answered 70 of those surveyed answered that the was either currently that the uk was either currently experiencing drought or was at risk over the next risk of drought over the next year. Idea that were year. The idea that were in drought, theyre obviously dont live tell live in the lakes. I can tell you that where im from, yeah, i mean, look, we could be in future because terrible future because of just terrible mismanagement is mismanagement of resources is thats definitely possible. And the is being the Water Companies is being terrible going terrible and population going up. But what theyre saying is climate population up. But what theyre saying is climaiup, population up. But what theyre saying is climaiup, combined population up. But what theyre saying is climaiup, combined with opulation up. But what theyre saying is climaiup, combined with climaten going up, combined with climate problems means were going to have can definitely have no water. I can definitely see dont have see a future where we dont have like as much water. We have limited in the House Limited water in the house probably population , mismanagement, population, probably more than climate. Yeah, theyre talking a lot yeah, but theyre talking a lot about which climate about the way in which Climate Change might to water change might lead to water shortages in future years. What theyre thats what theyre saying here. Scaremongering. Here. This is scaremongering. Well, my well, maybe. Well, exactly my point know that point is, people dont know that this just something that this is just something that were being now. 48 were being told now. Yeah. 48 think the government is not fulfilling responsibility. Think the government is not fulfillin i responsibility. Think the government is not fulfillin i dontsponsibility. Think the government is not fulfillin i dont think bility. Think the government is not fulfillin i dont think bility know luckily, i dont think they know or one cares. Also the or care. No one cares. Also the idea that people are worried about thats simply about this, thats just simply saying working i you know, we spend all day scaring people about climate and lo behold, scared. Lo and behold, they are scared. So its kind of a successful nudge story. Nudge unit story. See the i would like to see the actual questions polling i would like to see the actual qimaybe; polling i would like to see the actual qimaybe thats polling i would like to see the actual qimaybe thats pwayg because maybe thats the way theyre it. Thats what theyre doing it. Thats what im saying. Know by im saying. Did you know that by this going to in this year were going to be in this year were going to be in this are you worried this year were going to be in this that . Are you worried this year were going to be in this that . Well,e you worried this year were going to be in this that . Well,e you when 5d about that . Well, yes. When you put it like that, im worried about 1267 people about it. And only 1267 people were ask the same i mean, if you ask the same 1267 people, is darth vaders coming . And they say, yes. Does 1267 people, is darth vaders cominow and they say, yes. Does 1267 people, is darth vaders cominow meaniey say, yes. Does 1267 people, is darth vaders cominow mean thatay, yes. Does 1267 people, is darth vaders cominow mean that darth s. Does 1267 people, is darth vaders cominow mean that darth vader that now mean that darth vader is nonsense. Is coming . Its nonsense. Is absolute nonsense. But it is absolute nonsense. But im weve covered im glad weve covered it. Anyway, a story now anyway, weve got a story now about remakes the daily star about remakes in the daily star. Nick, but its not one that youre going to be happy about. I should imagine. This is shocking. China this is shocking. So china has rewritten the bible to reject grip reject the west and tighten grip on the country. So its insane stuff. Ill give you a few examples here. Yes, please do. Yes, please do. The best one here actually comes from the, uh. Well, theyve changed. Thou shalt have no other gods before me. Yes, right. Resolutely guard right. To resolutely guard against the infiltration of western ideology. I mean, thats. Thats ridiculous. I think thats brilliant. I think they should be congratulated, bleakly amusing. The that is very. The audacity of that is very. Apparently, instead and apparently, instead of jesus , you know, he jesus saying, you know, let he who without the who is without sin cast the first stone, just stones the first stone, he just stones the adulterous. I adulterous woman to death. I mean, apparently its almost beyond belief. But thats china for you. Although we cant be that smug because we these that smug because we have these childrens books. We have these programs rewrite programs trying to rewrite engush programs trying to rewrite english history, british history to be more politically correct and there was sorts of and claim there was all sorts of demographics werent. Demographics here that werent. And roald dahl and we also changed roald dahl and, know, bond books and, you know, james bond books. And on a related not exactly the same note, we had a Paivi Rasanen in finland who has faced this lengthy trial for quoting the bible. Yes. And has faced hate crime charges just for quoting the bible. So not quoting the bible. So were not that china, although that far off china, although this particularly obscene, this is particularly obscene, at least with chinese revision least with the chinese revision of the bible. Least with the chinese revision of iits3ible. Least with the chinese revision of iits quite funny. I mean, it its quite funny. I mean, it sounds like what a comedy writer would do. Unintentionally it is so unintentionally funny it seems another funny that it seems like another chapter. Chapter. It seems like king james is still hes moved to still alive and hes moved to china and just adding china and now hes just adding more to the bible. There different well, there are different versions this versions out there, but this one, to is pretty one, i have to say, is pretty unlikely. Jesus stoning someone. Absolutely terrible. Mean, we know i mean, look, we all know the Chinese Party are Chinese Communist party are pretty and pretty anti christian and theyve destroy theyve done things like destroy megachurch and because megachurch. And because christianity , to be fair, christianity, to be fair, growing around the world. Which country is pro christian loads. Massive in nigeria. Its its massive in nigeria. Its loads of countries that are massive in terms of people in their but in terms of the government. Oh, the government. Theres not much government. Not really much government. Romania one. One. One. No , poland, not many. No, poland, not many. No, poland, not many. Probably not the uk, hungary probably not the uk, no , no. So i mean, but you make no, no. So i mean, but you make a good point, though, about the way that we are. Weve got this onnellian quality as well, the rewriting of books , rewriting rewriting of books, rewriting of history, the roald dahl ones were baffling to me. Didnt they make one of the fat characters thin . Have, you thin . And then they have, you know, witches wear those know, the witches wear those wigs it Say Something wigs and didnt it Say Something like, wigs is like, but women wearing wigs is absolutely nothing to absolutely fine and nothing to be of. Theyre supposed absolutely fine and nothing to be be of. Theyre supposed absolutely fine and nothing to be be changed. Theyre supposed to be changed. Secretaries profession to be changed. She cretaries profession to be changed. She was ries profession to be changed. She was suddenly ssion to be changed. She was suddenly a on to be changed. She was suddenly a woman stem. She was suddenly a woman in the stem fields. Thats right. Yeah. But can you really compare that changing bible . But can you really compare tha well,1anging bible . But can you really compare tha well, you ing bible . But can you really compare tha well, you can bible . But can you really compare tha well, you can arible . But can you really compare tha well, you can a way,� well, you can in a way, because that because its that same revisionist same revisionist idea. Its the same scale. Not the same scale. Scale. Its not the same scale. These are fictionary books. Yeah, but yeah, but its the idea that you have to modify everything past. So everything from the past. So that the that its palatable to the present. Involves a kind present. If it involves a kind of complete negation or misunderstood the idea misunderstood ending of the idea that things change over time, thats basic thats fine, which is the basic premise of history. I would have thought, difference is thought, yeah, the difference is in doing in west were doing it in the west because ideology has because of woke ideology has taken over and it doesnt allow for anything theyre doing for anything else. Theyre doing it because theyre saying she is great must be great and everything must be about the same sort about g but its the same sort of i mean, its both it both comes an ideological position. All right. So the telegraph now sack. Now teacher is facing the sack. Victor weve had a number of stories like this. Whats this one about specifically . Oh, the teacher sacked by kofi school. Its a c of e school, c church of england, c, my bad school. After refusing to teach. Wait for it extreme. Um, lgbt lessons. You see, in my mind, its probably very different to what theyre describing. I think for it be extreme, it would have it to be extreme, it would have to extreme. To be extreme. Im thinking lgbt horror with 3d glasses. Im thinking lgbt horror with 3d right . ;. Im thinking lgbt horror with 3d right . There that right . There we go. That would pretty extreme. Would be pretty extreme. Freddy krueger well , krueger goes gay. Yeah, well, but this an interesting one but this is an interesting one because it is a Religious School. Because it is a Religious School , the teacher has made , so and the teacher has made the believes the point that she believes homosexuality is sinful, although she said that although actually she said that she thinks that being gay is sinful, which is not the churchs teaching, its its activity thats just going back to the china story in the bible, it say that. It does say that. I think it does. I could be wrong. It says homosexuality is wrong. It says homosexuality is wrong. It says homosexuality is wrong. So if shes got a teacher and she going with the bible, then shes got a slight point. Well, this is the thing, isnt it . We had this recent case. Was it in. Its one of the scandinavian countries where an mp quote. I just mp posted a bible, quote. I just said, its finland, its prithvi rusline in finland. Right. Right. And ended up prosecuted and ended up being prosecuted a yeah. Yeah. So what whats the difference . Well, okay, so i suppose difference that suppose the difference is that you a school you would say that in a School Environment its important that the saying the teachers are not saying things that are attack children , you know . So if a child is homosexual, if a child is of a certain race or whatever, that attacking that individual, particularly for children, is a is a problem. But its really easy as a teacher to avoid that kind of thing. Just dont talk about it. About it. You know that in this story, shes saying doesnt want to shes saying she doesnt want to do lessons. Shes do lgbt lessons. Shes not attacking , but shes saying, attacking lgb, but shes saying, i dont want to teach the lesson, extreme ones. I dont want to teach the les well, extreme ones. I dont want to teach the les well, eshes e ones. I dont want to teach the les well, eshes saying well, yeah, but shes saying that being gay is sinful. Didnt teach that. No. What do you think, nick . No. What do you think, nick . She trying well, she was trying to give some she said well, she was trying to give some sending she said well, she was trying to give some sending their she said well, she was trying to give some sending their kidse said well, she was trying to give some sending their kids to aid theyre sending their kids to a christian school. Theyre getting other ideology, christian school. Theyre gettinrthey other ideology, christian school. Theyre gettinrthey other insigned� , which they havent signed up for. Give for. And so she wanted to give another she another another angle. And she says that are male says that humans are born male and that parts and female. So that parts correct. But then she does say she its outside. She says its sex outside. Marriage is a sin. So that incorporates swathes of the incorporates huge swathes of the heterosexual well. Heterosexual population as well. It and its a it does, yeah. And its a theological term. Its a similar problem had problem that tim farron had people sin as people are using sin here as synonymous bad or evil. Synonymous with bad or evil. Yeah, really, yeah, but really, its just a theological term that doesnt really outside of theological term that doesnt reallcontext outside of theological term that doesnt reallcontext. Outside of theological term that doesnt reallcontext. Right . Outside of theological term that doesnt reallcontext. Right . Sotside of theological term that doesnt reallcontext. Right . So thatsnf that context. Right . So thats how and thats how they try and get you. Thats how they try and get you. Thats how farron. Really how they got tim farron. Really what dont think what shes saying. I dont think its when its actually that bad. When you look look at this. Look at it. Look, look at this. The Teaching Agency the Teaching Regulation Agency said that what she said was contrary fundamental british contrary to fundamental British Values. Had to get values. And so they had to get rid of it, which lacked tolerance. Well, then they were tolerance. Well, then they were intolerant get rid intolerant and they get rid of it. Those values come it. And also those values come from christianity, these alleged british come from British Values come from christianity anyway. So i have British Values come from ch point|ity anyway. So i have British Values come from ch point that nyway. So i have British Values come from ch point that nyway. Well. 1ave to point that out as well. Wouldnt just but wouldnt it be just better with children just to not invest ideological. Invest any kind of ideological. Getting well, theyre getting it. Theyre getting theyre going to be that be told in age 11 to 13 that their identity like pan their identity is like pan sexual, transgender, sexual, asexual, transgender, etcetera. Theyre going to etcetera. So theyre going to get ideology school. Its get an ideology at school. Its just of which one. Just a question of which one. , thats interesting. If you see see if you see if you see christianity as an ideology. I dont its religion. Dont exactly. Its a religion. But theyre going to get some sort indoctrination beliefs. But theyre going to get some sort icanctrination beliefs. But theyre going to get some sort ican understandeliefs. But theyre going to get some sort ican understand why. But theyre going to get some sort ican understand why thats you can understand why thats comparable you can understand why thats comparas. E a set of insofar as there is a set of beliefs, indoctrination. Pointed recently, indoctrination. Think pointed recently, indoctrination. Think it pointed recently, indoctrination. Think it was pointed recently, indoctrination. Think it was liz1ted recently, indoctrination. Think it was liz wheelerrecently, indoctrination. Think it was liz wheeler onmtly, indoctrination. Think it was liz wheeler on on y, i think it was liz wheeler on on x. I think it was liz wheeler on on x, youre going to be indoctrinating into indoctrinating children into something. Just something. It depends. Just just whose the whose values is it . Is it the values had like free values weve had like free speech, christianity, etcetera . Values weve had like free spee it christianity, etcetera . Values weve had like free spee it the istianity, etcetera . Values weve had like free spee it the new 1ity, etcetera . Values weve had like free spee it the new woke tcetera . Values weve had like free spee it the new woke ideology . Or is it the new woke ideology . And i think in this story as well, rename the well, they should rename the school cant be school because it cant be Church England should church of england. It should have with have nothing to do with the church, with church, have nothing to do with bible, school. Bible, just call it school. Yeah just school. Yeah. Yeah just school. Yeah. Yeah well, teach them whatever you want them. Want to teach them. Im sure theyll take that on board. Were to board. Victor, were going to move daily now move on to the daily mail now with the story that is going to make unpopular make Greta Thunberg unpopular on mumsnet. Nick this . Mumsnet. Nick whats this . This women in yeah, this is women in childbirth swap and childbirth urged to swap gas and air water injections to save air for water injections to save the planet. And the air for water injections to save the planet. And the nhs warns the planet. And the nhs warns the use of the popular pain relief to 18,000 relief is equivalent to 18,000 transatlantic flights. Okay, but transatlantic flights. Okay, but tell that to a screaming woman whos dealing with labour. I mean, this is going to be awful. Theyre claiming that. I mean, theyre claiming that you four you inject this at four points in lower like some sort in the lower back like some sort of or something. And of acupuncture or something. And this will just equivalent to this will just be equivalent to gas many are gas and air. But many are doubtful, say. I mean , has doubtful, lets say. I mean, has it been tested . Know . Yeah apparently do we know . Yeah apparently six. Been 6 in 10 women its been 6 in 10 women described the jabs as effective, tough times for the other four. Yeah. You what i mean . Yeah. I because i hear its i mean, because i hear its painful whole child. Painful the whole child. Heard as ive heard this as well. Obviously, experts on obviously, were not experts on this panel, but weve heard the noise. Basically noise. Its basically ive seen it you , victor . It firsthand. Have you, victor . Seen and hes here. It seen it . And hes still here. It wasnt tale. Wasnt a to tell the tale. Women. I commend its women. I commend you. It is very , very painful just is very, very painful just watching it. And what would have happened if youd to happened if youd tried to just inject with water . Can you imagine . Water . Am you imagine . Water . A doctorsnagine . Water . A doctors dying, . Water . A doctors dying, but. A doctors dying, but. A doctors dying, but. But you could say to the woman in labour, know, but woman in labour, you know, but this planet. You this is for the planet. You know, probably be know, i know theyll probably be guardian readers will be fine with that, but the rest of them will be furious will just be furious because look, the National Childbirth trust normally trust is saying its normally used experiencing pain. fi e clark of the pain. Clark of the shes and rachel clark of the shes a nice i dont know who they are, but shes she said its mind boggling anyway loads of people the ofsted Anaesthetist Association has said that its terrible so i highly question it and it doesnt really make sense. I mean, its here to save the planet. If its to here save the planet, then whats ulez about . Ulez to stop this. Lets ulez is here to stop this. Lets just let deviating a just let ulez deviating into a whole other story. Right, look, weve there. All right, look, weve got. Weve come to end of got. Weve come to the end of part do join us in part three, but do join us in the the the final section for the secrets comedy. Price of secrets of comedy. The price of being funny and an unusual technique improving your technique for improving your garden. See in theres help for households. Are you over state pension age . If your weekly income is below £201. 05, or £306. 85 if you live with a partner, you could be eligible for pension credit, even if you own your home or have savings. Its worth, on average, £3,500 a year, and you could get help with heating bills and more, plus cost of living payments. Welcome back to headliners. Your welcome back to headliners. Your first look at mondays newspapers. Were going to start newspapers. Were going to start this final section with the daily mail and a radical idea about humour being essential for joke writing. Well, victor, that seems fair enough. Well, yeah. The story is no joke should be off limits, says comedian lee mack. But the star says the golden rule should be that the punchline needs to be more funnier than shocking. Funnier than shocking. Well, thats no great insight there. We all know this. There. I think we all know this. Totally i agree. I totally agree. And i agree. And because i think and i disagree because i think its should off its no joke. Should be off limits. Disagree limits. But i disagree because its to audience. It is its up to the audience. It is up audience. Up to the audience. Is the thing that but this is the thing that were always talking about, but this is the thing that were alicomedians; about, but this is the thing that were alicomedians are out, but this is the thing that were alicomedians are punching whether comedians are punching up down or whether up or punching down or whether they whether they up or punching down or whether they red whether they up or punching down or whether they red lines whether they up or punching down or whether they red lines ultimately,1ey up or punching down or whether thejaudiences ultimately,1ey up or punching down or whether thejaudiences ultirlaugh,1ey the audience dont laugh, it doesnt work. Theyve doesnt work. And theyve made the judgement so you rely on the judgement so you can rely on them, know, and you can talk them, you know, and you can talk about any topic at all. If you can it funny, it can make it funny, yeah, then it will work. I have that you go i have learned that if you go with topic and with a controversial topic and its thats its not funny, yeah, thats when becomes controversial when it becomes controversial and got to whole lot better. The writing has better, the writing has to be better, the be better. Yeah, the joke has to be better. Yeah, exactly. This isnt exactly. I mean, this isnt anything that we dont already know, is it . Problem with what no, but the problem with what hes a gamble, no, but the problem with what hes it . A gamble, no, but the problem with what hes it . It a gamble, no, but the problem with what hes it . It has a gamble, no, but the problem with what hes it . It has to a gamble, no, but the problem with what hes it . It has to a morele, isnt it . It has to be more funny than shocking. But you cant tell cant find out until you tell the then even you cant find out until you tell thetell then even you cant find out until you tell thetell the then even you cant find out until you tell thetell the joke en even you cant find out until you tell thetell the joke like ven you cant find out until you tell thetell the joke like jemmyou cant find out until you tell thetell the joke like jemmy carr do tell the joke like jemmy carr did with traveller joke, he do tell the joke like jemmy carr did inth traveller joke, he do tell the joke like jemmy carr did in so traveller joke, he do tell the joke like jemmy carr did in so much veller joke, he do tell the joke like jemmy carr did in so much troublenke, he do tell the joke like jemmy carr did in so much trouble for. He do tell the joke like jemmy carr did in so much trouble for. And got in so much trouble for. And even if the audience are laughing, be laughing, you can still be attacked taken attacked because its taken out of politicians might of context and politicians might tweet a statement tweet saying it was a statement that made rather that jemmy carr made rather than a say a joke. They say its a statement. Where lee statement. And this is where lee sort points out the intention sort of points out the intention has the window that has gone out the window that it no doesnt matter what no longer doesnt matter what your just your intention was, its just what you did. And thats the thing away intention, thing they take away intention, they so no they take away context. So no ones kind literal that kind of literal mindedness, just hate that. Mindedness, i just hate that. I mean they did with louis mean they did that with louis c. K. Those jokes c. K. When he made those jokes about shootings. And about the school shootings. And i was independent about the school shootings. And i one was independent about the school shootings. And i one those independent about the school shootings. And i one those ind of endent or one of those sorts of newspapers that wrote a headline that said louis c. K. Mocks Survivors School shootings. Survivors of school shootings. No, obviously wasnt doing no, he obviously wasnt doing that. He making a joke that that. He was making a joke that was a little bit more sophisticated maybe sophisticated than maybe they understood, but isnt literal minded interpretation . Because if it literal because if it was literal minded say joke minded, theyd say its a joke at comedy show. Theyre at a comedy show. Theyre actually even being actually theyre not even being literal. Further literal. Theyre going further and saying, know it looked and saying, i know it looked like by comedian like a comedy show by a comedian with front of with on a stage in front of people. Actually a people. It was actually a statement from a press conference just lying, basically. But thats what i mean. If the strong enough, the jokes not strong enough, then the newspapers then maybe the newspapers are right. Problem this, the problem with this, i mean, is talking about mean, lee mack is talking about how be funny how it needs to be more funny than but of those than shocking. But both of those ideas are incredibly subjective. Something that you find hilarious, find hilarious, i might find completely hilarious, i might find comfindely hilarious, i might find comfind shocking. I might you find shocking. I might think, oh, thats fine. Thats why let the and thats why we let the audience decide the audience audience decide and the audience also newspapers. Also includes newspapers. I can. I can. I can. I one slightly i had one slightly controversial lee mack controversial point. Lee mack seems nothing against seems cool, so nothing against him, general, comedians him, but in general, comedians have gone along with of have gone along with sort of very industry. They havent very woke industry. They havent spoken except for spoken out against it except for a like us and now, a few legends like us and now, of course, you can say less and less things because they didnt people out in this people didnt speak out in this very woke. People didnt speak out in this very wo more people they people didnt speak out in this very now more people they people didnt speak out in this very now noticed. Iple they people didnt speak out in this very now noticed. We they people didnt speak out in this very now noticed. We are they trailblazers. We are the pioneers. Andrew exactly. Welcome to pioneers with nick dixon and andrew doyle be the name of the show. Okay, the telegraph okay, so to the telegraph now, nick is £10 million the going rate for a sense of humour. Now now, this is interesting. Walliams says he can no David Walliams says he can no longer funny million. Longer be funny in 10 million. Britains got talent now britains got talent lawsuit now his point is actually not bad. And firstly, David Walliams was very on britains got very nice to me on britains got talent, get four talent, and i did get four yeses, was he was. Yeses, but he was he was. What happened, you what happened, nick, you didnt its didnt get through because its rigged. Get the four andrew you get the four yeses, still dont yeses, but you still dont get through because youre not the right. Have story, right. You dont have the story, man. The story. Why dont man. And the story. Why dont you just lie . I could have made one up. I should have one up. I know. I should have just just too honest. Just lied. Im just too honest. Andrew i mean, they didnt literally very literally say to me, to be very clear, you a story. Clear, that you need a story. Thats suspicion. Thats my suspicion. You shouldve said you you shouldve just said you had smashed had a wasting disease, smashed a gig, four yeses. Had a wasting disease, smashed a gigso four yeses. Had a wasting disease, smashed a gigso i four yeses. Had a wasting disease, smashed a gigso i win four yeses. Had a wasting disease, smashed a gigso i win awur yeses. Had a wasting disease, smashed a gigso i win a morales. Had a wasting disease, smashed a gigso i win a moral victory, as had a wasting disease, smashed a gsoso i win a moral victory, as had a wasting disease, smashed a gsoso i win abutral victory, as had a wasting disease, smashed a gsoso i win abut yes, ctory, as had a wasting disease, smashed a gsoso i win abut yes, they, as had a wasting disease, smashed a gsoso i win abut yes, the back i so often do. But yes, the back to walliams. Was to David Walliams. So he was nice to and thats all that nice to me. And thats all that matters. Point is they matters. But his point is they actually he claims they were recording his recording him without his knowledge. Was recording him without his kn an. Edge. Was recording him without his kn an atmosphere was recording him without his kn an atmosphere where was recording him without his kn an atmosphere where he was in an atmosphere where he couldnt settle anything couldnt settle because anything he and he said might be recorded. And in general, he started to worry that spontaneous that he couldnt be spontaneous and robbed of that he couldnt be spontaneous anc ability robbed of that he couldnt be spontaneous anc ability to robbed of that he couldnt be spontaneous ancability to do robbed of that he couldnt be spontaneous ancability to do hisobbed of that he couldnt be spontaneous anc ability to do his job ed of that he couldnt be spontaneous ancability to do his job and of his ability to do his job and his ability to do his job and his identity, its caused his identity, and its caused him distress. Him great distress. Disagree im going to disagree with this read the this one because ive read the jokes. He called the man jokes. I mean, he called the man the three times. Said, jokes. I mean, he called the man ttwomans three times. Said, jokes. I mean, he called the man ttwomans thboringies. Said, jokes. I mean, he called the man ttwomans thboring he said, jokes. I mean, he called the man ttwomans thboring he wouldnt a womans so boring he wouldnt want sleep with her. I mean, want to sleep with her. I mean, these jokes. David these are not funny jokes. David walliams. Found him walliams. Ive never found him funny. Other guy. Walliams. Ive never found him funny. Are other guy. Walliams. Ive never found him funny. Are the other guy. Walliams. Ive never found him funny. Are the othwhejuy. Those are the things he said, not realising being not realising he was being recorded. Recorded. Right. Right. Isnt point when but isnt the point that when people are in their private conversations people are in their private conversati theyre around, know and theyre joking around, they jokes they take risks with the jokes and things and some of the things may not land. You know, not land. And, you know, im not talking offensive. Land. And, you know, im not tali im offensive. Land. And, you know, im not taliim talkingnffensive. Land. And, you know, im not taliim talking aboutre. Land. And, you know, im not taliim talking about its not im talking about its not funny. Like funny. Right so its like with the microphone on or off, its just not a fan. He wasnt to be funny. He wasnt trying to be funny. They like we heard they were catching like we heard the stuff you said the the stuff you said during the break. Like its like if we break. Its like its like if we captured everyone captured that and everyone could hear lot of hear it, youd be in a lot of trouble, though, if we were constantly recorded. Constantly being recorded. Are. Constantly being recorded. I are. Constantly being recorded. I wouldnt are. Constantly being recorded. I wouldnt bother are. Constantly being recorded. I wouldnt bother mee. Constantly being recorded. I wouldnt bother me if id known the known that id even stop the jokes offstage as well. Jokes up offstage as well. Can you can that the can you can do that in the when show after this. So you when the show after this. So you cant performing the time. Thats what is. Thats what it is. Thats what it is. Always on, always on, never off. Moving the times now, moving to the times now, victor, story victor, a story about multitasking. This. Multitasking. I love this. Story. On. Multitasking. I love this. Headphonesory. On. Multitasking. I love this. Headphones are on. Multitasking. I love this. Headphones are in. On. Multitasking. I love this. Headphones are in. How. The headphones are in. How a little editor to love little editor learned to love the audiobook. So basically what theyre is people are theyre saying is people are learning to read books just buy for the headphones. And i am one. One. Are doing are you doing it . Are you doing it . Oh, do you know how many books read . Books ive read . Couldnt guess. I couldnt even guess. Ive even down. Even written them down. Jessica george. Maam. From jessica george. Stronger by fern brady. Stronger female by fern brady. Im going in. Youre writing down the list of you write so. But of books, and you write so. But youre listening to them rather than listening. Than reading them listening. Is that experience . That a better experience . Better experience its a much better experience cause work. Cause you could be at work. You could you be. Could be at. You could be. One right now. Done, right . Yeah done, right . Yeah you got. I havent nick, have you got. I havent got with the audiobook. I did got on with the audiobook. I did try it. | got on with the audiobook. I did try it. I understand the point. You know, i dont think its a bad thing. You know, and as kids we will to you know. We all will read to you know. That its back. Yeah, i love that its back. It seems like quite a quaint medium have resurfaced. And it seems like quite a quaint mel ium have resurfaced. And it seems like quite a quaint mel love have resurfaced. And it seems like quite a quaint mel love that ve resurfaced. And it seems like quite a quaint mel love that ve rback. Ced. And it seems like quite a quaint mel love that ve rback. Led. And so i love that its back. I listen to lot. Wont listen to him a lot. I wont listen to him a lot. I wont listen me, listen to fiction. To me, fiction an aesthetic fiction is like an aesthetic experience but experience has to be read, but ill listen to non fiction because its basically information or an argument. And its very useful because im interviewing week its very useful because im intwmy ewing week its very useful because im intwmy podcast, week its very useful because im intwmy podcast, so week its very useful because im intwmy podcast, so im week its very useful because im intwmy podcast, so im always eek on my podcast, so im always listening you on my podcast, so im always listed0|g you on my podcast, so im always liste do it you on my podcast, so im always liste do it when youre you on my podcast, so im always liste do it when youre thevou can do it when youre on the move, yes, yeah, exactly. Move, right . Yes, yeah, exactly. And spotify are competing now with sorry, with with audio audible. Sorry, im going bring in this thing im to going bring in this thing where a month. Where its 15 hours a month. The problem books problem with that is if a books really long, andrew, your book is minutes. Is 11 hours, 28 minutes. So youd i want to youd be like, do i want to commit my entire month . Almost youd be like, do i want to co andrewy entire month . Almost youd be like, do i want to co andrew doylee month . Almost youd be like, do i want to co andrew doyle you nth . Almost youd be like, do i want to co andrew doyle you shouldlmost youd be like, do i want to co andrew doyle you should askit to andrew doyle you should ask ourselves you can put me ourselves this. You can put me on double cant but on double speed, cant you . But youre sap that many on double speed, cant you . But youre wontap that many on double speed, cant you . But youre wont you . At many on double speed, cant you . But youre wont you . Because youre on double speed, cant you . But yc hours. Ont you . Because youre on double speed, cant you . But yc hours. Youre u . Because youre on double speed, cant you . But yc hours. Youre onlyzcause youre on double speed, cant you . But yc hours. Youre only allowed ure on double speed, cant you . But yc hours. Youre only allowed 15 re 11 hours. Youre only allowed 15 when count . When it still count . I dont know. But thats a book month. I dont know. But thats a book m what. Thats what hes thats what. Thats what hes talking about. Is it . You think its thing . Yeah talking about. Is it . You think its one thing . Yeah talking about. Is it . You think its one booking . Yeah talking about. Is it . You think its one book a g . Yeah talking about. Is it . You think its one book a month. One book a month. One book a month. Just cant listen to i just cant listen to andrews book. The new puritans. Very be if ive read ill be angry if ive read your im happy your book, and im not happy aftennards. My aftennards. I mean, thats my book for the month. The telegraph. Now, nick, this . Now, nick, whats this . Colours smells. Explain colours having smells. Explain this me, please. True colours this to me, please. True colours come through thanks to come shining through thanks to what we smell. What we can smell. So idea is if you just so the idea is if you just smelt coffee and you look at a colour thats neutral grey, youll youll choose a more red brown colour and youll go for more blue version. If youve just had caramel pumped into the room. Apparently really room. Apparently i dont really get isnt really get that. But this isnt really new. Cialdini discovered new. Robert cialdini discovered this. He had a book called persuasion. Another this. He had a book called persucalled another this. He had a book called persucalled persuasion, another this. He had a book called persucalled persuasion, where er book called persuasion, where like if you if you touch something cold, whatever, youd make different choice and all make a different choice and all these kind of things. It goes these kind of things. So it goes for goes for for temperature, it goes for colour pitches. Can colour, sound pitches. You can influence. I dont know influence people. I dont know if its influencing their vision, its influencing vision, but its influencing their it claims its their vision, but its influencing their maybe claims its their vision, but its influencing their maybe it aims its their vision, but its influencing their maybe it is. Is its their vision. Maybe it is. This isnt something vision. Maybe it is. Anythingsnt something vision. Maybe it is. Anything about. Nething vision. Maybe it is. Anything about. Buting vision. Maybe it is. Anything about. But victor, know anything about. But victor, what this . I can what do you make of this . I can agree cares . Agree with it, but who cares . Just work do you scientists just work for free . I think thats a great question. Cares . Question. Who cares . Need to come up like they need to come up with need to come with some they need to come up. Scientists there. Go scientists out there. Yeah, go home. Get your laboratory home. Get into your laboratory here and a way of me going here and find a way of me going to work and not paying taxes. To work and not paying taxes. Now, thats something thats something that you can get behind. Get behind smells behind. I can get behind smells is within the is thats really within the realm care because realm of scientific care because theyre up nonsense i yes, there are a lot of those sort of stories where scientists have done a study and you think, whats necessary . Whats that really necessary . Yeah, that going. Can this they can use this in marketing, and marketing, though, to try and trick you more money. Trick you to spend more money. Thats it from thats why it comes from persuasion and see. Thats of yeah, well, thats kind of important. Well, yeah, well, thats kind of imp0|thet. Well, yeah, well, thats kind of imp0|the show well, yeah, well, thats kind of imp0|the show is well, yeah, well, thats kind of imp0|the show is nearly. L, yeah, well, thats kind of imp0|the show is nearly over, look, the show is nearly over, but before we leave, lets just take look at take another quick look at mondays daily mondays front pages. The daily mail merciless mail has pawns of merciless terrorists. The telegraph also leading israel story. Leading with the israel story. Us sends warships and jets to help israel. The guardian violence escalates as death toll surges to over 1000. The times is leading with stunned israel goes to war. The eye news as fears grow for 100 hostages. And finally , the Financial Times has finally, the Financial Times has israel at war after deadly hamas attack. Obviously, most all of the front pages are running with the front pages are running with the same story. Theyre very the same story. Theyre very chilling news from israel. Thats all we got time for. But thank you to my guests, Victor Daniels and nick dixon. Simon evans will be here tomorrow at 11 pm. Hell be joined by bruce devlin and nicholas de santo and if youre watching the repeat of this show at 5 am, do stay tuned because its time for on the 9th of october. Youre tuned into breakfast on gb news with eamonn and isabel. Heres whats leading the news this morning. Israel news this morning. Israel continue its bombardment of the gaza strip in retaliation for hamas rocket assault. There are now over 1000 israelis in palestinians dead as the escalation enters its third day. There are fears that the conflict will spread across the region. America is sending region. America is sending warships to support israel. Well have the latest on that throughout the program. Throughout the program. In other news, the labour Party Conference is in full swing after a strong opening from angela rayner, the shadow chancellor will take to the podium and our deputy Political Editor tom hannood will tell you what to expect. The watchword of what to expect. The watchword of today is infra structure