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Inflation because it impacts the poorest the most on a visit to burnley ahead of todays gathering, the pm insisted his approach is deeply conservative, saying its a thatcherite policy i the best tax cut that we can deliver right now is to halve inflation and thats something that im deeply committed to. Its the first of my five priorities. Why because thats how we can help people with the cost just want to cost of living. We just want to put in peoples put more money in peoples pockets. And the best way to do that is through that right now is through halving and that is halving inflation. And that is a deeply conservative approach to this. Understand deeply conservative approach to this. Is understand deeply conservative approach to this. Is what understand deeply conservative approach to this. Is what margaretitand that this is what Margaret Thatcher well, tax is set to thatcher did well, tax is set to be a key issue over the next four days, with more than 30 tory mps promising to not support the autumn statement if it contains any hikes. Shadow Health Secretary wes streeting says theyre right to question the pms tax policies, including inheritance tax. After 13 years of conservative government we end up in a position where even its own mps are having to campaign against their unfair tax policies. And i think conservative mps are quite right to say how is it that weve got the worst , to say how is it that weve got the worst, highest to say how is it that weve got the worst , highest tax to say how is it that weve got the worst, highest tax burden in 70 years . They should also be asking rishi sunak why he, instead of thinking about cutting taxes for working people, hes looking to give himself another super rich people a tax break by cutting a tax that affects 4 of people in this country. A tax cut that would earn him personally £300 million. Million. Meanwhile, protesters have been gathering outside of the conference in manchester calling for an end to the conservative government. Some are Holding Signs reading bring down the tories and free the north. Others are protesting against the minimum Service Levels act, defending the right to strike. And you can see now live pictures on your screen there from manchester of that protest. But protesters there saying end austerity now. Well, a key end austerity now. Well, a key part of the Windsor Framework has come into effect for Northern Ireland with a green and red lane system to move goods from Great Britain. Our Northern Ireland reporter Dougie Beattie has more. Beattie has more. As the protocol grace periods end, the framework document comes into place. Although we comes into place. Although we must say this is a phased approach. This today really affects the retailers , the large affects the retailers, the large supermarkets that have had problems with their supply chains and those using groupage may still face problems and that will really hit smaller retailers. But the real battle lines here will be drawn in january and right through to october next year when customs not only look at goods travelling from gb into Northern Ireland, but also from goods leaving ireland to go back in to the uk to shop. The uk to shop. Shop owners are asking the home secretary to specifically outlaw attacks on retail staff. Outlaw attacks on retail staff. Close to 90 Business Leaders say the government should create a new offence of assaulting, threatening or abusing a retail worker to bring english and welsh law in line with scotland. A survey from the British Retail Consortium found that incidents of violence nearly doubled in the 20 2122 Financial Year as compared with before the pandemic. Like ofgems energy pandemic. Like ofgems Energy Price Cap has now fallen across england, wales and scotland in place for the next three months. The average household bill is set to be reduced by around £150. Thats still more than 50 higher than pre crisis levels. The government is yet to announce any Financial Support for struggling households. Some for struggling households. Some single use plastic items are now bannedin single use plastic items are now banned in england. Businesses can no longer sell products like plastic cutlery, plates and polystyrene cups, and they face fines if they do. Local authorities will be able to carry out inspections to make sure that the rules are being followed. And andrew crook is president of the National Federation of fish friers he says people need to be educated on how to recycle the new packaging. This is a product called bagasse, which is compostable. Its made from sugarcane, so it does have a Carbon Footprint because it comes from china. The problem is they look very similar to whats banned, which is the expanded polystyrene fine. So i think theres still an educational piece from the government for consumers about how dispose of them correctly how to dispose of them correctly if they dont find their way into and theyre just into a bin and theyre just discarded, just the discarded, theyll just act the same as and a of same as plastic. And a lot of it, even it ends up in it, even if it ends up in general waste, will either be incinerated to produce electricity end in electricity or end up in landfills. Electricity or end up in lan this;. Electricity or end up in lan this is gb news across the uk this is gb news across the uk on tv , in your car, on digital on tv, in your car, on Digital Radio, and on your Smart Speaker by saying play gb news. Now lets get back to gb news sunday with. Martin and thank you very with. Martin and thank you very much, ray. Okay, lets get stuck now into todays hot topics. Of course, the tory conference kicks off today in manchester with a promising start. Labours lead over the tories has been slashed to just ten points, according to a new opinion poll from the observer published today. But its not all good today. But its not all good news for rishi sunak. The poll also found that only one third of 2019 tories are intending to vote for another party party . Well, joining me now is gb news Political Correspondent catherine forth. The live from up there in manchester. So catherine, about that poll. Well catherine, about that poll. Well who would have thought the conservatives thought being conservative and the voters. Conservative and the voters. Well, they seem to like it. Well, they seem to like it. Well , it certainly would seem well, it certainly would seem that way. Worth saying that its just one poll, but its the first poll for a long time that has put labours lead over the conservatives at anything thing, like just 10, because pretty much for the last year or so since rishi sunak came in as Prime Minister, the polls have been consistently around 20 points ahead for labour. Now rishi sunak had hoped that his five pledges and delivering on those and of course theyre not going terribly well, are they, that the polls would start to shift, but they really didnt. And so a couple of weeks ago we started to see a rather different rishi sunak rather more radical rishi sunak who seems to have dropped the safety first approach. So we had the softening on net zero targets and then weve had other policies like the im going to go out and bat for the motorists. The war on the motorist has got to stop. That was announced yesterday that , of course, yesterday that, of course, i think heavily influenced from the fact that the conservatives miraculously managed to hold on to uxbridge, having expected to lose it largely because of opposition to the ultra low emission zone and today, of course, the announcement is money for levelling up in towns. So i think rishi sunak will be heartened by that poll. But make heartened by that poll. But make no mistake, hes going to have a pretty rough ride here. First of all, manchester is not a city thats particularly keen on the conservatives at the best of times. Theres protests going on as we speak. And also, of as we speak. And also, of course, the government has spectacularly failed , failed to spectacularly failed, failed to say whether or not its going to build hs2. Right from birmingham to manchester. It looks very much like its not not going to. And then of course, theres plenty of unhappiness within the conservative party itself. Quite a lot of the mps have already made up their minds that theyre going to lose the next election and so we see people who would rather like rishi sunaks job jostling for position position , jostling for position position, whether its suella braverman, the home secretary, last week , the home secretary, last week, priti patel has been out and about. Liz truss is going to be making a big speech about growth tomorrow and Kemi Badenoch to so lots of rather vociferous noises about what rishi sunak should or should not be doing. So its going to be an interesting few days. Okay. Catherine force live from the Tory Party Conference in manchester. Thank you. And well see you again in the next houn well see you again in the next hour. Great stuff. Okay. Lets see what my panel make of this. Now joined by novara now im joined by novara Media Co Founder, the co founder, a friend of the show, Aaron Bastani, and political commentator benedict spence, pal of spence, whos also a good pal of the show. Benedict, lets start with you. Seems be with you. There seems to be a bit a polling bump. The first bit of a polling bump. The first bit of a polling bump. The first bit of a polling bump. The first bit of good news that rishis had, it seems, in a blue moon. But talking of blue threat but talking of that blue threat , the reform party seems to be emerging a thorn in their emerging as a thorn in their side with echoes 2019. Of side with echoes of 2019. Of course, is the former course, this is the former brexit party. Is there any coincidence think , that the coincidence you think, that the red meat that rishi is throwing out on things like hs2, which the promised to the brexit party promised to scrap on things like being kinder to motorists on things like getting tough with the echr . Or is this all timed around this conference to make the conservatives look, well, a bit conservative . I think its more to do with giving the illusion of a Prime Minister who is in control or at least is trying to be assertive. I think this is you know, i think hes been stung by the accusations from the labour party of in action, man. Party of being in action, man. And think that theres a lot party of being in action, man. Antruthiink that theres a lot party of being in action, man. Antruth to that theres a lot party of being in action, man. Antruth to that. Theres a lot party of being in action, man. Antruth to that. Heses a lot party of being in action, man. Antruth to that. Hes been ot party of being in action, man. Antruth to that. Hes been a of truth to that. Hes been a Prime Minister to whom he inherited a rather rum lot, but to whom things seem to happen. You the war in ukraine you know, the war in ukraine happens nothing happens and theres nothing i can it. Inflation can do about it. Inflation happens. Theres nothing i can really about and, you really do about it. And, you know, saw that with this sort know, we saw that with this sort of pledges, a lot of of his five pledges, a lot of aspects to were completely aspects to them were completely out this is out of his control. This is about Prime Minister trying to about a Prime Minister trying to reassert himself, show himself to who can grasp the to be somebody who can grasp the nettle, speak, and who can nettle, so to speak, and who can take difficult decisions, potentially unpopular decisions. I necessarily i dont think its necessarily just conservative, just about being conservative, because lot of because i think a lot of conservatives too conservatives would be not too pleased, on the pleased, for instance, on the floated around making it floated rules around making it illegal for people under a certain smoke, that seems certain age to smoke, that seems rather that seems rather illiberal. That seems rather illiberal. That seems rather nanny state, but thats something hes pushing something that hes pushing fonnard, presumably because there to that there is polling to suggest that it certain part of it works with a certain part of his constituency. You know, he seems be throwing out a lot seems to be throwing out a lot of Different Things to appeal to as he can. And the as many wings as he can. And the idea here i am coming up with idea is here i am coming up with stuff. Does the labour stuff. What does the labour party to offer . Because party got to offer . Because youve say the labour youve got to say the labour party have been very sort of calm, but calm, very measured, but not what might inspiring what you might say inspiring because i that theyve because i think that theyve been cautious to try to get too ahead too early in ahead of themselves too early in case tories start stealing case the tories start stealing things case things things or in case things backfire. We this, of backfire. We saw this, of course, keir starmer going course, with keir starmer going to europe to and to europe to try and strike a deal to europe to try and strike a deal. Week 10,000 deal. The very week that 10,000 people turned up in lampedusa. You timing is everything, you know, timing is everything, so so i hes so to speak. So i think hes just trying to take whatever initiative Try Initiative he can to just try and the public and the tory and show the public and the tory party. Man of party. Look, i am a man of action. You can trust me to actually act on things. Aaron bastani is the inaction man. Fine springing into action. Is chance saloon man. Fine springing into action. Is the chance saloon man. Fine springing into action. Is the before e saloon man. Fine springing into action. Is the before thealoon for the tories before the general election . Definitely the well, its definitely the last looking at last chance saloon. Looking at the numbers, martin, 39 for laboun the numbers, martin, 39 for labour, is than labour, ironically, is less than what 2017. But 29 what they got in 2017. But 29 for tories would their for the tories would be their worst result ever. Its 3 worst ever result ever. Its 3 less corbyn got in 2019, less than corbyn got in 2019, and it is a terrible, terrible result if they get it. However, in context of recent months, in the context of recent months, youre right to say its a massive build massive improvement and to build on what you said with regards to reform, things could much reform, things could be much worse than that for the conservatives. By way, there conservatives. By the way, there is where the tories end is a world where the tories end up on less than 100 seats because they go to the centre. Labour them labour absolutely smashes them and theres a party and as you say, theres a party to their right 510 of to their right getting 510 of the share because they the vote share because they didnt do the kinds of things theyre so i think theyre now doing. So i think this really emergency this is really emergency measures by rishi. I think theyve moved away from a strategy forming a majority strategy of forming a majority and i think this is really about damage limitation. How many seats and who knows, seats can we keep and who knows, maybe hung parliament. Maybe a hung parliament. That that benedict is that is that a fair assumption to make . I mean, is direction travel. Is the direction of travel. Were seeing the fragmentation of vote. Were seeing of the tory vote. Were seeing labour a bit. Is that labour wobbling a bit. Is that heading more towards parity heading more towards a parity situation think that is it. Parliament . I think that is it. I think its the sort of the hail mary is maybe they hail mary throw is maybe they scrape with 1 or seats scrape him with 1 or 2 seats because unexpected things happen in different constituencies. Maybe popular maybe an mp is very popular because takes a firm on because he takes a firm line on something thats very local. And because he takes a firm line on sorrideaig thats very local. And because he takes a firm line on sorridea is thats very local. And because he takes a firm line on sorridea is then; very local. And because he takes a firm line on sorridea is then youy local. And because he takes a firm line on sorridea is then you do cal. And the idea is then you do hamstring the Labour Labour Party then have sort hamstring the labour labour pa bow then have sort hamstring the labour labour pa bow to then have sort hamstring the labour labour pa bow to pressure. | have sort hamstring the labour labour pa bow to pressure. Maybe sort hamstring the labour labour pa bow to pressure. Maybe fromt of bow to pressure. Maybe from the liberal probably the liberal democrats, probably not but maybe, maybe, not the snp, but maybe, maybe, maybe the greens get a seat or two, but also no wings within the party itself. Then the labour party itself. Then start well, hang on, the labour party itself. Then sta can well, hang on, the labour party itself. Then sta can start well, hang on, the labour party itself. Then sta can start to vell, hang on, the labour party itself. Then sta can start to exert1ang on, the labour party itself. Then sta can start to exert more n, we can start to exert more pressure on the leadership ourselves begin to a ourselves and you begin to get a sort of a similar situation to what have the now, what you have in the tories now, which different factions which is different factions fighting against each other. Its great, you its not looking great, you know, and as know, we can sit here and as aaron says, its a massive bump, but its still brilliant but its still not a brilliant situation. Say, though, situation. I would say, though, i reform are too and i think reform are too and i dont mean this in the environmental sense, theyre too green. Moment to green. I think at this moment to be considered a serious threat. I theres still i think theres still an election being election cycle away from being able push the tories. Able to really push the tories. I most of those voters, if i think most of those voters, if they are faced with the prospect of a Labour Government at the next general election, i think when it comes to polling day, a lot of them will go. Do you know what . Actually, going to what . Actually, im going to vote tories. Im going vote for the tories. Im going to the option. I think to take the safe option. I think were still a good years were still a good five years away reform, really making away from reform, really making that away from reform, really making tha and thats, course, what and thats, of course, what we in 2019. That vote folded we saw in 2019. That vote folded back in at the last minute with the promise brexit done. The promise of get brexit done. Looking to labour looking ahead to the labour conference, really looking ahead to the labour conianylce, really looking ahead to the labour coniany policies really looking ahead to the labour coniany policies out really looking ahead to the labour coniany policies out that really looking ahead to the labour coniany policies out that ilally looking ahead to the labour coniany policies out that i can put any policies out that i can see that nothing concrete at all. Need do that, do all. Do they need to do that, do you do they just need you think, or do they just need to watch the tories implode . Well, i think its worse than that. The out that. They put the policies out and a 180 like we saw and then do a 180 like we saw with the private schools over the last week. The course of the last week. I think in a way starmers offer is policies. Saying, is not policies. Hes saying, look, a better look, i can deliver a better country the basis of better country on the basis of better growth. Im growth. How . Because im not going going to tax going to im not going to tax people going be people more. Its going to be through the can live through the sorry, i can live a better standard of living for you through growth than you through growth rather than increasing give increasing taxes. How ill give confidence investors confidence to Foreign Investors because i have nice haircut confidence to Foreign Investors becewell have nice haircut confidence to Foreign Investors becewell have and haircut confidence to Foreign Investors becewell have and welljt and well change and well change regulations change the planning regulations happens. And what people dont want as want to talk about is that is as fairy tale as a political offer, as liz truss was, right. The idea tax paid through idea of tax cuts paid through deficit youre deficit spending, when youre youve for youve not seen any growth for 15 not very smart. 15 years, thats not very smart. So labours stance now to so labours stance right now to me incoherent, incomplete me seems incoherent, incomplete , but like you say, thats held against the tories who frankly have been a disaster for the last two, three years, but frankly also if you look at the last 13 years, havent really got much to say that theyve accomplished beyond, say, brexit. B rexit. Brexit. Okay. Its worth pointing out okay. Its worth pointing out as well in this same opinion poll , that the most poll today, that the most favoured Prime Minister in britain is none of the above. Britain is none of the above. 37 would choose neither star armour nor rishi sunak. 37 would choose neither star armour nor rishi sunak. Thanks, armour nor rishi sunak. Thanks, guys, and stick around for the rest of the show of course. Well, lots of you whove been getting in touch that opinion well, lots of you whove been gettialready uch that opinion well, lots of you whove been gettialready t01 that opinion well, lots of you whove been gettialready to the that opinion well, lots of you whove been gettialready to the showopinion well, lots of you whove been gettialready to the show on 1ion well, lots of you whove been gettialready to the show on that poll already to the show on that topic. Daniel says this i think the open their the more labour open their mouths, more people get mouths, the more people get scared. Thats why scared. And maybe thats why hes not saying much at all at the. On the topic, the moment. On the same topic, rob this call an election rob says this call an election then well , there was talk about then well, there was talk about this this morning. Apparently rishi is favouring a spring poll but old guard like sirjohn but old guard like sir john redwood say no, no, just go full term to the autumn to give longer for things to go into effect. And lets face it, it would feel like turkeys voting for ask me if for christmas. If you ask me if they to the polls. Now, they went to the polls. Now, john says this. Over the next 3 to 6 months, that gap to 6 months, see that gap closing timing up to an closing timing leading up to an election is all important. John. Election is all important. John. There is keeping the tory faith. Frank has got this to add. Frank has got this to add. Ive voted conservative since 1979, but no more. And 1979, but no more. And uncontrolled immigration is the reason its reform uk for me from now on. Well frank, youre one of that swing vote and its even greater in the midlands. Even greater in the midlands. 18. The swing to reform in the north, 12. Could they be kingmaker as they were in 2019 . 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Pressure pattern at the moment is dominated low pressure, is dominated by low pressure, bringing rain bringing in spells of rain across the country and weve got patchy rain across southern parts into the midlands parts of wales into the midlands as we move through this evening time. Generally remaining time. This generally remaining cloudy across the southern half of the uk, further north, drier, clearer spells, but a scattering of showers over Northern Ireland, northwest scotland, some of these heavy at times being blown in on a brisk breeze. And temperatures across the board generally staying in double figures. A muggy start to monday morning, a cloudy start. Southern counties of england and wales patchy rain developing as we move through the morning and into afternoon. This into the afternoon. Some of this rain at times rain could be heavy at times brighter skies for Northern Ireland, Northern England and scotland with a scattering of showers staying showers. Again staying quite windy across the northwest of scotland and temperatures high teens to low 20s across the board into tuesday. We continue to remain fairly unsettled. To remain fairly unsettled. Well see showers or longer spells of rain. Well see some sunny spells, though , developing sunny spells, though, developing in between cloud across the southeast taking its time to clear. And temperatures generally again reaching the high into the low 20s for high teens into the low 20s for many and then High Pressure starts to build in towards the middle of the week. Temperatures near average. Near average. Thank you very much, greg. Lots more on todays show and not everyone is happy the tories are in manchester for the Peoples Assembly. Protest is in full swing right now with one clear message. Tories out now thats a more to come. Im Martin Daubney and this is gb news, britains news channel. News, britains news channel. News. The peoples channel. Britains news channel. Britains news channel. Welcome back to gb news sunday with me, Martin Daubney on your tv , online and on your on your tv, online and on your Digital Radio. Well, whilst the conservatives are holding their Party Conference in manchester, the Peoples Assembly are marching to protest against the government backed by major trade unions. The groups message is unions. The groups message is clear they want an end to tory rule. Well, joining me now is gb rule. Well, joining me now is gb news deputy Political Editor tom hannood. Tom, no tory party will hannood. Tom, no tory party will be complete without its party poopers. Who are this mob and what do they want . Yes, its really interesting being here at a sort of more fruitful end of the conference scene. Weve got an Interesting Group of people marching with one simple message. They want the tories out, but amongst this group of people and it is a really diverse group, i suppose lots of different organisations, some trade unions, the communist party, some marxist leninists, all sorts of flavours of left winger. In one big march, but all marching for one reason. They want the tories out of power. But its more than that. There are slogans here. There are people who disagree on some things. For example, the gentleman behind me is clearly very much in favour of the European Union. Theres also the theres also the communist party marching here, who of course, are in favour of leaving the European Union. So these people arent agreeing on arent always agreeing on absolutely everything thing. So it is interesting to see how this sort of ragtag group of people come together to march against the governing party, as of course , is their right in a of course, is their right in a free and democratic society. But there have been some interesting slogans on this march, some people covering their faces with masks , presumably to avoid masks, presumably to avoid identity action. People chanting against the police, for example, saying that we shouldnt have Police Forces calling the police all sorts of names under the sun. But generally, this has not been a violent protest. It has been a violent protest. It has been a violent protest. It has been a spirited one. And that , i been a spirited one. And that, i suppose, can be welcomed in a democrat society. Weve had some charming boos as well from those in the audience and on the march, i should say. And that is a delight. March, i should say. And that is a delight. But it is, of march, i should say. And that is a delight. But it is, of course, a delight. But it is, of course, a delight. But it is, of course, a delight. But it is, of course, a delight to see the flavour of democracy marching along the streets of manchester and i dont think that many people would want to have it any other way. Way. Well, tom hannood, thank you for joining in there and doing forjoining in there and doing very well in the face of some heckling in your ear there and well done to the cameraman for making sure that viewers making sure that the viewers couldnt see couldnt hear it. So lets see what make of this. Now, what my panel make of this. Now, of course, im rejoined by novara Media Co Founder Aaron Bastani and political commentator. Commentator benedict spence. Aaron, ill come to you first. As he said, a gaggle of those from the left socially communists supported by jeremy corbyn, caroline lucas, ken loach, owen jones , bob crow from loach, owen jones, bob crow from the rmt. What are they really the rmt. What are they really after . Are they just out there to cause trouble or is this just about annoying the tories or do they actually have a serious chance of getting back in power . What are they after . Well, i feel like im missing out. When you list those names, i feel like i should perhaps be somewhere else today. What theyre after is really interesting. You know, i think those actually those people protesting actually represent middle england on a bunch of issues Public Ownership of water, Public Ownership of rail, ensuring that people arent, you know, completely slammed on things like energy pnces slammed on things like Energy Prices as later on this year to increase things like home ownership, to reduce inequality. Thats not to say that theyre their middle england on every issue , but on a bunch of issues issue, but on a bunch of issues they absolutely are. And the they absolutely are. And the conservatives are very much out of. You know, the of touch. You know, the conservatives support conservatives dont support pubuc Public Ownership of water, yet a majority plan to majority of people that plan to vote, do. So i think you vote, tory, do. So i think you shouldnt just label them as kind eccentrics kind of like eccentrics and irrelevant. Actually irrelevant. I think actually they mainstream they represent mainstream opinion bunch of things. Opinion on a bunch of things. What find really interesting what i find really interesting was the gentleman with the eu flag. There was flag. Yeah, because there was actually earlier actually a rejoin rally earlier on. It was significantly on today. It was significantly smaller than the support smaller than the one in support of bullies that protest of xl xl bullies that protest you saw there is whether you agree with them or not. Representative of a very large body of Public Opinion in this country. On the things i just mentioned, for instance, and im worried actually i see that worried actually when i see that gentleman the flag gentleman with the eu flag at the hes diluting their the front, hes diluting their message attaching what message and hes attaching what are very important demands around ownership, around Public Ownership, reducing to a battle reducing inequality to a battle which been lost on european which has been lost on European Union membership and which should be relitigate should not be relitigate started. Yeah, weve the excel. Weve also had the eu bullies. In fact, juvenile presenters radisson over presenters around radisson over there at at the march last there at the at the march last saturday. But back to this protest today. Do you think that protest today. Do you think that the theyre emboldened , these the theyre emboldened, these protesters, by the whiff of power and anyway or many people at that march today even supportive of keir starmer somebody who they would call a blairite. It is a sort of an odd peoples front of judea judean peoples front of judea judean peoples front of judea judean peoples front sort of amalgamation of people. And we all know it is that they all know what it is that they dont stand for, actually if dont stand for, but actually if you to get them into a room you were to get them into a room and say right a coalition, and say right form a coalition, it wouldnt go very it probably wouldnt go very well. Know, these are well. You know, these are i think in the sense think aarons right in the sense that represent a lot that they do represent a lot of middle englands views. But these the these are by and large, the worst people to sort of front that as you there that because, as you say, there is of sort of i think, to is a lot of sort of i think, to put it politely, youd say eccentricity rather than extremists. These are people who have quite, know, have made quite, you know, fringe or fringe aspects of politics or identities around europe. Part of core. And of their sort of core. And i think most people in think actually most people in middle england would sort of look that go, well, look at that and go, well, thats and good. Thats all very well and good. I too dont tories in too dont want the tories in government, you wouldnt too dont want the tories in gover meent, you wouldnt too dont want the tories in gover meent, on u wouldnt too dont want the tories in gover meent, on this ouldnt too dont want the tories in gover meent, on this sortnt too dont want the tories in gover meent, on this sort of a catch me going on this sort of a march. Actually think it march. And actually i think it dilutes the message, which is that what see front that if you what you see front and centre in terms of opposition to tories is a opposition to the tories is a labour that doesnt really opposition to the tories is a labotto that doesnt really opposition to the tories is a labotto say that doesnt really opposition to the tories is a labotto say anything, snt really opposition to the tories is a labotto say anything, youreally opposition to the tories is a labotto say anything, you know, want to say anything, you know, including actually including things on actually what popular what would be quite popular measures of measures like nationalisation of rail, improving the water industry. Nuclear industry. I dont know, nuclear power, know, power, whatever, you know, majority timid tories are in favour ideas. The thing favour of those ideas. The thing and things actually and those are things actually that i think a lot of labour voters behind and voters would get behind and actually a of actually therefore a lot of swing get behind swing voters would get behind because theyre not necessarily left nothing left wing. Theres nothing left wing about saying, well, lets keep in british keep british pounds in british pockets rather than send them off shareholders germany off to shareholders in germany or thats or holland. I think thats actually of actually something lots of people if people can get behind. But if this the of face of this is the sort of the face of it the labour party is just it and the labour party is just sort on its hands going, sort of sat on its hands going, well, not try to say well, lets not try to say anything too controversial. It offers the tories faintest offers the tories that faintest glimmer offers the tories that faintest glimriflr offers the tories that faintest glimrif this is what the well, if this is what the opposition looks like, why cant we mary pass . We throw the hail mary pass . I will back to you, will quickly come back to you, aaron, on that point most of aaron, on that point of most of the on that march the people on that march there would horrified idea would be horrified at the idea of getting into power. What it they so what is it that they actually want . They dont want a labour if its a keir Labour Government if its a keir starmer government. Labour government if its a keir starmer go dont|ent. Labour government if its a keir starmer go dont know. You know, yeah, i dont know. You know, i lots of people i think theres lots of people who pragmatic in who are very pragmatic in politics on both sides of the debate right and left, and i think people might not think many people might not personally starmer, think many people might not per they ly starmer, think many people might not perstheyly hes starmer, think many people might not perstheyly hes much|er, think many people might not perstheyly hes much better but they think hes much better than the alternative. And look, it the way. There it works. The other way. There are conservatives who are lots of conservatives who werent by werent hugely impressed by bofis werent hugely impressed by boris but they Boris Johnson in 2019, but they made decision that Boris Johnson in 2019, but they madnpreferred decision that Boris Johnson in 2019, but they madnpreferred him decision that Boris Johnson in 2019, but they madnpreferred him to ision that Boris Johnson in 2019, but they madnpreferred him to jeremyiat they preferred him to jeremy corbyn. Think corbyn. So i dont think everybody there will on everybody there will agree on everything. As benedict says, i think there is probably a minimal demands around minimal set of demands around pubuc minimal set of demands around public inequality and Public Ownership inequality and like like like you say, things like nuclear being like you say, things like nuclear there. Being like you say, things like nuclear there. Thats, being like you say, things like nuclear there. Thats, i being like you say, things like nuclear there. Thats, i thinkg reflected there. Thats, i think most people support. And yet it doesnt seem to happen. And its really for me. Of really frustrating for me. Of course, we should talk about things left right basis, things on a left right basis, but actually is but actually there is a consensus on a bunch issues consensus on a bunch of issues in life country. In public life in this country. For when pundits for some reason, when pundits talk centre , it talk about the centre, it doesnt to reflect any of doesnt seem to reflect any of them. Yeah, great gents. Them. Yeah, great points, gents. Very much. And thank you very much. And again, for the rest thank you very much. And agthe for the rest thank you very much. And agthe show. For the rest thank you very much. And agthe show. Youre for the rest thank you very much. And agthe show. Youre watching st thank you very much. And agthe show. Youre watching or of the show. Youre watching or listening sunday with listening to gb news sunday with me. Martin loads more me. Martin daubney loads more coming up yet on todays show, including framework including the Windsor Framework post brexit arrangements post brexit deal arrangements come into force. Today. Will break down what that means for businesses in Northern Ireland. But first, heres your news with ray addison. Ray addison. Thanks, martin. Good afternoon. 130. Heres our top stories this hour. The Prime Minister has refused to commit to tax cuts as the conservative Party Conference gets undennay. Party conference gets undennay. Rishi sunak says his focus is on halving inflation because it impacts the poorest, the most. Impacts the poorest, the most. On a visit to burnley ahead of todays gathering, the pm insisted that his approach is deeply conservative. The best tax cut that we can deliver right now is to halve inflation action. Now thats something that im deeply committed to. Its the first of my five priorities. Why . Because thats can help people thats how we can help people with of living. We just with the cost of living. We just want to put more money in peoples the peoples pockets. And the best way that now is way to do that right now is through inflation. And through halving inflation. And that conservative through halving inflation. And that this. onservative through halving inflation. And that this. Andervative through halving inflation. And that this. And my ive approach to this. And my colleagues that this colleagues understand that this is what Margaret Thatcher did. Meanwhile protesters well. Meanwhile protesters have outside the have been gathering outside the conference in manchester, as weve been seeing. Theyve been calling for an end to the conservative government. Some conservative government. Some are signs reading bring are Holding Signs reading bring down the tories and free the north. Others are protesting against the minimum Service Levels act, defending the right to. Strike a key part of the to. Strike a key part of the Windsor Framework has come into effect for Northern Ireland, with a new system introduced to move products from Great Britain to goods which are being transported to the eu will use a red lane which includes Customs Declarations and some checks. While those bound for Northern Ireland will use a green lane with minimal papennork and no checks. Not for eu labels will start appearing on some products in stores and ofgems Energy Price Cap has now fallen across england, wales and scotland in place for the next three months. The average household bill is set to be reduced by around £150. Thats still more than 50 higher than pre crisis levels. The government is yet to announce any Financial Support for struggling households. Well, for struggling households. Well, you can get more on all of those stories by visiting our website at gbnews. Com. At gbnews. Com. Thank you very much for that, ray. Okay, businesses bringing goods into Northern Ireland will follow different rules from today as the new post brexit trade arrangements come into force. Rishi sunak negotiated the Windsor Framework with ursula von der leyen of the eu back in february and they both believe it will reduce papennork and checks for companies. But how are the new rules working in practise . Well joining me now is our Northern Ireland reporter Dougie Beattie. Good afternoon to you, dougie. Dougie beattie. Good afternoon to you, dougie. Well, can we to you, dougie. Well, can we start an explainer as to start with an explainer as to what is happening today . Please well , good afternoon and welcome well, good afternoon and welcome to the new eu border. It is , of course, they call it is, of course, they call it an irish sea border, but its really in the docks behind us here. And what happens is the any goods thats coming straight into Northern Ireland will stay into Northern Ireland will stay in the green lanes and they are meant stay here and not go meant to stay here and not go into the eu, i. E. The republic of ireland. And that is really its a phased in approach to the Windsor Framework because rishi sunak oversold the framework document when he came here first, calling it the greatest deal of all, and we would have access to all markets. But of course businesses back then didnt actually get ready for it because they said it was going to be so easy and what happened was in july this year , just was in july this year, just a couple of months back, the regulations for this was still not in place. People didnt know exactly happening , what not in place. People didnt know exacgoing happening , what not in place. People didnt know exacgoing go happening, what not in place. People didnt know exacgoing go intonpening , what not in place. People didnt know exacgoing go into theing , what not in place. People didnt know exacgoing go into the green ihat was going to go into the green lanes and what was going to go into red lanes. So as into the red lanes. So as a result, what this today is result, what this is today is really the side of the really the retail side of the green lanes and red lanes and anything that is to come in from britain saying that task goes or sainsburys will travel from point to point the manifest of the lorry that its carrying will have gone to the eu and then that should slip straight through and to his designated spotin through and to his designated spot in the retail markets. Well, thats okay if youre a big company and you have lots of refrigerated lorries and of course refridge great units to store the stuff in because Northern Ireland has whats called a just in time chain food chain here, because the longer that you have to keep food in cold storage, well, the more expensive that becomes, especially with the price of energy where it is now and it continues to go up. So therefore , this is an easy way of bringing that stuff from the mainland straight into this part of the uk. And keeping those costs down. So that should leave us back to where we were post our prior to brexit and all should work well at that point. But when you bring into it that theres group haulage that goes in and thats lorries that are stopping on the way through england , scotland, wales picking england, scotland, wales picking up goods that havent that are not on the manifest. That means not on the manifest. That means serious papennork and they will have to go into the red lanes. So in one way it is a good thing. It is easing that pressure on big supermarkets here. But theres still a lot to play here. But theres still a lot to play for. If i here. But theres still a lot to play for. If i was a cynic, i would say that maybe this was to put pressure mainly on the unionists more than anything, because can guarantee that because you can guarantee that there will be tv cameras in there will be tv cameras in there from selected media who will be filming this. And on monday night it will all be saying what was the fuss over everything . Things going well. Everything . Things going well. And of course, thats not the point, real big point, because the real big point, because the real big point the framework document point of the framework document still have to come into place and they wont be coming into place anytime between january and this time october next year. And they will represent Customs Declarations and what is not only coming in to the province , but also going out, province, but also going out, because as i said, it has to have final destination on it. So we now have this ridiculous situation that we have big posters on the outside of shops saying goods in here, not for resale in the eu, but people can come across the border from the repubuc come across the border from the republic of ireland, buy those goods and go back into the eu with well being on checked. But with well being on checked. But this this indeed will have very serious knock on effects for other companies, not only in Northern Ireland but in the republic. Yeah, that was going to be my next question. So youve outlined very clearly what it means for Northern Irelands trade, the trade, but what about for the repubuc trade, but what about for the republic ireland . What does republic of ireland . What does it mean them . Well now were it mean for them . Well now were getting down to it because this is about the protection of a Single Market. And of course, the eu is part of that Single Market is the repubuc of that Single Market is the republic of ireland the only republic of ireland and the only part the uk that has land part of the uk that has a land border with eu is northern border with the eu is Northern Ireland. In order to stop so ireland. So in order to stop so the republic of ireland has about £24 billion of exports from the republic into britain every year and in amongst those are manufacturing. And of course thats where i where i sit very firmly in agriculture. And that firmly in agriculture. And that if you look at the beef sector in the republic of ireland, 43 of their beef market is with the uk and about 1. 3 to £1. 4 billion worth of Dairy Products come from the republic republic of ireland into the uk. So the republics government is treading a very thin line here because if they put on an enforce and get the eu to enforce and get the eu to enforce too much regulation here, that will of course be merged going back into britain when these customs declaration actions come into place, going the opposite way. And if the unionists get their wish of unfettered access into the uk from Northern Ireland, well that means that an awful lot of the republics trade will be coming straight across a borderless country into Northern Ireland and the goods will be flowing out of Northern Irelands ports and into the uk and you can bet your Bottom Dollar they will not want that happening and that trade moving from the eu into Northern Ireland. So this is the real Sticking Point politically in Northern Ireland and why unionists are not engaging with the government. Because if you the government. Because if you take goods from Component Parts from britain that are going to be manufactured here because its manufacturing and theres no final destination for the product when its assembled , it product when its assembled, it means, well, theyre going to go into red lanes. Okay Dougie Beattie thank you for that update live from belfast. Stocks on this historic day. Okay. Lets see what my panel make of this now. Im rejoined by the novara media by the lads novara Media Co Founder Aaron Bastani and political commentator benedict spence. Benedict im going to start with you. An historic start with you. An historic moment. Many who start with you. An historic moment. Many who campaigned for brexit, it said from the very, very beginning, the day that the Withdrawal Agreement was published in october 20th, 2019, that Northern Ireland was going to be a huge Sticking Point. We first saw the border down the irish sea. Now were seeing this many people on the unionist side of the equation will say this is a surrender of british territory to the eu. Today i can see why they think that its a very difficult, complex issue because its not simply about, i think the relationship between trade or anything like that. Its also about long term. I think what london views the future of Northern Ireland being. And i think that the thing that is sort of sotto voce about that attitude is that london doesnt particularly care about Northern Ireland. I think that that has become clear become increasingly clear throughout it throughout this process that it was sort of an afterthought and that actually this is that actually that this just is an aspect of a negotiation that is ongoing. Its continuous, and we still havent reached the final point of that. We probably never will. Itll keep on being something which something around which things are changed. Suppose the are changed. But i suppose the perspective of the unionists is , is their ace in the hole. I suppose is that we cant really the republic of ireland can only go so far in terms of what its attitude towards the uk is. Yes, the of ireland part the republic of ireland is part of european but it is of the European Union, but it is actually very reliant on a positive relationship with the uk. It can only sort of push that so far and that would be the case even if the six province of Northern Ireland are six counties rather adjoined. The republic of ireland, it would be beholden on would still be very beholden on the all sorts of things. The uk for all sorts of things. Trade being important so trade being an important one. So its complex issue in its a very complex issue in that is going to be that it is going to be continuously evolving. Obviously continuously evolving. Obviously you have the unionist side that is losing support sort of every year still actually holds, year but still actually holds, i think , a lot of sway, a lot of think, a lot of sway, a lot of power it that sort power in that it has that sort of stranglehold over the progress politics in northern progress of politics in Northern Ireland. Its not something that is resolved and it is going to be resolved and it never going to be something never was going to be something that was going resolved that was going to be resolved easily. And think that easily. And i think that that is one that one of the few things that i think could criticise think you could criticise brexiteers legitimately, legitimately for saying is completely this. Legitimately for saying is com again, this. Legitimately for saying is com again, go this. Legitimately for saying is com again, go back this. Legitimately for saying is com again, go back to this. Legitimately for saying is com again, go back to whatis. Legitimately for saying is com again, go back to what i. And again, go back to what i said it how said at the start. It shows how Little People london little i think people in london really attention what really paid attention to what was ireland. Was going on in ireland. Aaron michel was i, aaron Michel Barnier was quite would quite clear that ireland would be a Sticking Point and negotiations all the wedge issue and now the windsor and here we are now the Windsor Framework eunice. We framework hated by eunice. We still have a sitting still dont have a sitting parliament in ireland as a consequence how you consequence of this. How do you think today will be remarked . Is it surrender or a failure or it a surrender or a failure or is actually get on with it . Well, there isnt a parliament in the north of ireland because frankly, unionists unwilling to unionists are unwilling to accept that a political hegemony probably from here on in as a result of just demographics on the island, on the of the the island, on the north of the island, rather favour republican and favour irish nationalists. And favour irish nationalists. So its an interesting one because on the one hand you look at this and you think, well, its quite an elegant solution. Nobodys really lost out. Its a sticking plaster. But politics sticking plaster. But politics often sticking often works with sticking plasters quite well. They endure for move for ten, 20 years. People move on. Other hand, on. But on the other hand, i think its symbolic really, of a deepening between great deepening divide between Great Britain Northern Ireland, britain and Northern Ireland, between london and belfast and i think realistically in the next 20, 25 years, we will see a form of irish unification. What i find fascinating, however, is , find fascinating, however, is, is what form that will take, because from the perspective of somebody who lives in the north of ireland having citizenship of both the is both the republic and the uk is a alluring being to a very alluring being able to access both, the uk, access both, you know, the uk, but be a european citizen but also be a european citizen is a very attractive proposition. Would you want to give up . The second give one of those up . The second one is of course the republic doesnt something the doesnt have Something Like the nhs, to nhs, so there are real costs to irish unification for people in the i do think this the north. But i do think this is symbolic of the path that the island as a whole now going island as a whole is now going down, which unification. Down, which is unification. Okay, gents, were going to leave there. Well rejoin leave it there. Well rejoin you, course, later the you, of course, later in the show. Lots you have been show. Now lots of you have been getting touch your views getting in touch with your views on opinion poll. On the latest opinion poll. That one labour one thats put the labour lead to ten points out today in to just ten points out today in the observer, korine says this rishi did not inherit this mess. He instigated it by getting rid of Boris Johnson. He deserves all he gets. Korine a bofis deserves all he gets. Korine a boris loyalist till the end there. Graham says this i think labour have peaked too soon. They benefited from the mess liz truss caused. Things are calming truss caused. Things are calming now and labour are not offering anything and indeed we did say will the real chaos starmer please stand up, give us some policies. As christian says, policies. As christian says, this , rishi is thinking about this, rishi is thinking about what sensible and realistic in the long term , and the home the long term, and the home secretary understands that compassion needs to be realistic and that compassion towards the uk needs to be balanced with compassion towards immigrants. Compassion towards immigrants. Christian, a lovely balanced view there. Keep those views coming in throughout the show. Okay, theres loads more coming up on todays show, including liz truss is leading a growing rebellion in the tory party calling for the government to cut taxes. But should we be listening to the former Prime Minister im Martin Daubney and this is gb news, britains news channel isabel monday to thursdays from six till 930. Six till 930. Welcome back to gb news sunday with me, Martin Daubney on your tv, online and on your Digital Radio. Lets truss is spearheading a tory revolt over tax cuts at the Tory Party Conference from the fringes, the former Prime Minister will lead a fringe event dubbed the Great British growth rally tomorrow, putting pressure on rishi sunak over the economy. A number of top tories seem to be on her side. Dame priti patel will be a guest at the event , as well as guest at the event, as well as Jacob Rees Mogg and ian duncan smith. And this is what the levelling up secretary, michael gove, had to say on the issue the Camilla Tominey issue during the Camilla Tominey show earlier on today. Every every conservative wants to bnng every conservative wants to bring taxes down and to reduce the tax burden. The tax burden. But the thing we must do first is to bring inflation under control. The biggest tax cut that we can give to the country is bringing inflation down. But naturally, whenever conservatives can an we always want to cut taxes and the colleagues who are making that argument are to my mind, simply making the argument that all of us in government believe in as well. So should our current Prime Minister be paying more attention to the calls of his predecessor . Well, joining me predecessor . Well, joining me now is chief economic adviser at the centre for economics and business research, vicky pryce. Vicky its always a pleasure to have you on the show. So yesterday the tories were revolting on tax promise , vowing revolting on tax promise, vowing to never raise it again. 33 of them today say the conservative growth group wants a death tax abolished. And also they want to slash Corporation Tax. But tell me this. Why should we listen to liz truss . Liz truss . Well, its a good point, but of course we should listen to her, mainly because she does represent quite a substantial part of what the conservative party actually thinks. And weve party actually thinks. And weve heard, of course , also from heard, of course, also from rishi reiterating that he rishi sunak reiterating that he is in favour, of course, of lower taxes generally, and weve heard from lots of others, heard it from lots of others, including earlier. Including michael gove earlier. So as if shes not so its not as if shes not talking in response to what perhaps lots of Party Members want. And possibly, you know, those who might want to vote conservative. And you mentioned the opinion polls just recently , just a few minutes ago, but what of course , is the issue is what of course, is the issue is whether the government can afford to do so, given that weve been through a very difficult period, through covid. The debt is at very high levels , nearly 100 of gdp at and whats happening right now, of course , is the government has course, is the government has had to rein back a little bit in terms of that spending and also has had to raise a bit more money in to order start meeting some of his fiscal rules. And what weve seen, of course, is that rates have gone up. Weve said Corporation Tax rate. You rightly mentioned that one, which has gone up to 25 from 19 where liz truss wants to see that reduced. Well, that raised about 80 odd billion pounds last yean about 80 odd billion pounds last year. So youve got to watch what you wish for because of course you could make quite a big difference in terms of what the government is able to do on the government is able to do on the fiscal front more generally. And why have and thats why you have all these perhaps , you these calls now to perhaps, you know, not go ahead with the second leg of hs2 to and also the thames link, you know, undennater link, which is supposed to also cost about £9 billion, which may well be scrapped as well. So those pressures are still there. How you can then lower taxes while youre having all these problems is a big question mark, i think, for the economy as a whole. Okay, vicky bryce, thank you for excellent analysis. For that excellent analysis. Back to panel. Aaron bastani back to my panel. Aaron bastani ben, aaron, ive got ben, on expense. Aaron, ive got to with you. Theres a lot to start with you. Theres a lot of noise from the fringes of noise coming from the fringes from truss. Shes shes from liz truss. Shes shes saying things that a saying a lot of things that a lot of tory voters would like to see happen. Slashed taxes , put see happen. Slashed taxes, put more in pocket. More money back in the pocket. But government we but the government is saying we cant it. Ill ask you cant afford it. So ill ask you this. The point liz this. Whats the point of liz truss . This. Whats the point of liz tru well, i understand that well, look, i understand that conservative voters to be conservative voters want to be paying conservative voters want to be paying tax. I conservative voters want to be paying tax. I get conservative voters want to be paying tax. I get it. Conservative voters want to be paying tax. I get it. But paying less tax. I get it. But realistically , inflation is realistically, inflation is still quite high and growth is still quite high and growth is still very low and whether youre right, left centre , you youre right, left centre, you want to generate more wealth in the economy and distribute that in a certain way that will benefit whoever is voting for you. The labour party, that you. For the labour party, that means more invest public means more invest in public services. Tories, that means means more invest in public sencuts. Tories, that means means more invest in public sencuts. Thates, that means means more invest in public sencuts. That has1at means means more invest in public sencuts. That has to means means more invest in public sencuts. That has to come. ; tax cuts. But that has to come. That has to come after the growth reducing inflation growth and reducing inflation parts. Question parts. And so the question then is, do get growth . Is, well, how do you get growth . And i would and this is where i would severely significantly severely and significantly disagree liz disagree with somebody like liz truss, as she is truss, because as she is monomaniacal , like sadly too monomaniacal, like sadly too many conservatives , that the many conservatives, that the only thing the government can do to generate generate the to generate growth, generate the wealth we need economy wealth we need in the economy that benefits everybody or at least is by cutting least most people is by cutting taxes and this monomania speaks to the fact that actually politicians in this country dont really want to work hard at overcoming the challenges we all face rather than actually have to think properly. Okay what do we do regarding infrastructure, housing policy, labour policy , industrial labour policy, industrial policy, educate Foreign Policy . They dont think about any of that. Broadly speaking, they outsource almost all of it to the market. So they dont have to think. Or back in the day, the European Union. So they dont think and they dont have to think and they say, reduce say, okay, lets just reduce taxes. Much more taxes. Its much more complicated taxes. Its much more con benedict taxes. Its much more conbenedict i mean, as messiahs benedict i mean, as messiahs 9 benedict i mean, as messiahs go, shes not very good one. Go, shes not a very good one. You know, her Prime Ministerial tenure about ministerial tenure was about as long christ the cross. Long as christ was on the cross. And career dying and and now her career is dying and resurrecting. Caesars resurrecting. So that caesars renderings take will be renderings in tax take will be slightly less. Maybe knows . Renderings in tax take will be s d01tly less. Maybe knows . Renderings in tax take will be s do think ss. Maybe knows . Renderings in tax take will be s do think it. Maybe knows . Renderings in tax take will be s do think it saysbe knows . Renderings in tax take will be s do think it says rather knows . Renderings in tax take will be s do think it says rather a nows . Renderings in tax take will be s do think it says rather a loth . I do think it says rather a lot about rishi sunaks aversion actually to just playing pure politics as sort of aarons alluding to there. The easy thing actually to do would be to turn around and say, okay, we are going to your taxes, are going to slash your taxes, were going to bring down income tax that hes tax knowing full well that hes probably not going to be Prime Minister months minister in 12 to 18 months time. Leaving to keir time. And leaving that to keir starmer to deal who starmer to have to deal with who would probably would inevitably probably have to he was playing to raise them if he was playing the sensible game, he would win. I lot of support in i think a lot of support in the short people go, oh, short term by people go, oh, fantastic. My, my pay packet is slightly and when slightly bigger. And then when keir two keir starmer wins, you know, two years people go, years down the line, people go, well, i well, this sucks. I wish i hadnt voted for keir starmer. Now but he would have at least sort brought back little sort of brought back a little bit obviously bit more support. So obviously its unpopular. But as we its very unpopular. But as we said top of show that said at the top of the show that is what starmer sorry, said at the top of the show that is wh Sunak Starmer sorry, said at the top of the show that is wh sunak is armer sorry, said at the top of the show that is wh sunak is trying sorry, said at the top of the show that is wh sunak is trying to rry, said at the top of the show that is wh sunak is trying to do. Rishi sunak is trying to do. Hes the man who hes trying to be the man who takes situations and takes control of situations and says, to make says, im prepared to make difficult that means difficult decisions. That means not necessarily you what difficult decisions. That means not want. ;arily you what difficult decisions. That means not want. That you what difficult decisions. That means not want. That meansyou what difficult decisions. That means not want. That means potentially you want. That means potentially not going the fairyland of not for going the fairyland of net zero. It means being straight i suppose straight with you. And i suppose therefore, that is to his credit, i dont think itll work, know that is work, but you know that is better than the liz truss approach going, you better than the liz truss appro what . Going, you better than the liz truss appro what . Ive going, you better than the liz truss appro what . Ive got1g, you better than the liz truss appro what . Ive got this you better than the liz truss appro what . Ive got this magic know what . Ive got this magic solution everything. Nobodys solution to everything. Nobodys ever before. Lets ever thought of it before. Lets just weve got the highest but weve got the highest taxes since world war two. I mean, a of tory voters must mean, a lot of tory voters must be scratching heads and be scratching their heads and thinking boris and be scratching their heads and thinjeremy boris and be scratching their heads and thinjeremy corbyn. Boris and got jeremy corbyn. Lot of tory voters want but a lot of tory voters want the state to prop things up. That what Boris Johnson that is what Boris Johnson i think and that was think got. And that was when people control. People said take back control. They back they didnt think take back control and then throw control to the wind. They wanted the state lot of state to take more. A lot of older labour voters want the state involved their state to be involved in their lives. Very lives. They might have very socially views. Socially conservative views. That they want that doesnt mean that they want the privatised the nhs to be privatised or anything like that. Well have to okay gents, well have to call day. Theyre just call it a day. Theyre just getting warmed up on one. Getting warmed up on that one. Anyway, on to our anyway, lets move on to our next thing youre next our next thing youre watching gb news watching or listening to gb news sunday daubney sunday with me, Martin Daubney loads on todays loads more coming up on todays show, including well live in show, including well be live in manchester for opening manchester for the opening speech of the tory conference. Im this is im Martin Daubney and this is gb news, hello. Welcome back to gb news sunday. Its 2 pm. Thank you for us this lunchtime. For joining us this lunchtime. Im and for the im martin dalby and for the next hour ill be keeping you company on tv, online and on your Digital Radio. Coming up in this next stonking hour, well be hearing from the chairman of the conservative party as he makes opening speech on the makes his opening speech on the first day of the conservative conference in manchester. Well bnng conference in manchester. Well bring you the latest political reaction coming out that reaction coming out of that conference. Can see, conference. As you can see, cameras are there conference. As you can see, cameras are there waiting for greg arrive. And the greg hands to arrive. And the Prime Minister has today refused to rule out hs2 being scaled back, despite former Prime Minister theresa may joining bons minister theresa may joining Boris Johnson and David Cameron and George Osborne and Michael Heseltine in urging rishi sunak not to axe the project. So should it go ahead or is it a complete waste of money . Then the sunak is slamming the brakes on the wall on motorists as he vows to stop blanket 20 mile an hour zones and ltns low traffic neighbourhoods introduced across wales. Do get in touch. Send us wales. Do get in touch. Send us your thoughts on gbviews gbnews. Com or send us a message on our socials where of course at gb news. But first, heres your news with ray addison. Addison. Thanks, martin. Good afternoon. Its exactly 2 00 and afternoon. Its exactly 2 00 and our top stories this hour. The Prime Minister has refused to commit to tax cuts as the conservative Party Conference gets undennay. Rishi sunak says gets undennay. Rishi sunak says his focus is on halving inflation because it impacts the poorest, the most. On a visit to poorest, the most. On a visit to burnley ahead of todays gathering, the pm insisted his approach is deeply conservative, saying its a thatcherite policy i the best tax cut that we can deliver right now is to halve inflation in. Now thats something that im deeply committed to. Its the first of my five priorities. Why . Because thats how can help people thats how we can help people with cost of living. We just with the cost of living. We just want to more money in want to put more money in peoples pockets. And best want to put more money in peo;tos pockets. And best want to put more money in peo;to do wockets. And best want to put more money in peo;to do thatts. And best want to put more money in peo;to do that right d best want to put more money in peo;to do that right now best want to put more money in peo;to do that right now isest way to do that right now is through inflation. And through halving inflation. And that conservative that is a deeply conservative approach to this. And my colleagues approach to this. And my cowhatues approach to this. And my cowhat Margaret Thatcher did. Is what Margaret Thatcher did. Tax is set to be a key issue over the next four days, with more than tory mps promising more than 30 tory mps promising not to support the autumn statement if it contains any hikes. Shadow Health Secretary hikes. Shadow Health Secretary wes streeting says theyre right to question the Prime Ministers tax policies, including inherited gas tax. After 13 years of conservative government, we end up in a position where even its own mps are having to campaign against their unfair tax policies. And i think conservative mps are quite right to say how is it that weve got the worst, highest tax burden in 70 years and they should also be asking rishi sunak why , instead asking rishi sunak why, instead of thinking about cutting taxes for working people, hes looking to give himself another super rich people a tax break by cutting a tax that affects 4 of people in this country. A tax cut that would earn him personally £300 million. Meanwhile, protests have been gathering outside the conference in manchester, calling for an end to the conservative government some are Holding Signs reading bring down the tories and free the north. Others are protesting against the minimum Service Levels act, defending the right to strike back shop owners are asking the home secretary to specifically outlaw attacks on retail staff close to 90 Business Leaders say the government should create a new offence of assaulting, threatening or abusing a retail worker to bring english and welsh law in line with scotland. A survey from the British Retail Consortium found that incidents of violence nearly doubled in the 20 2122 Financial Year compared with before the pandemic. Ofgems energy price pandemic. Ofgems Energy Price Cap has now fallen across england , wales and scotland in england, wales and scotland in place for the next three months. The average household bill is set to be reduced by around £150. Thats still more than 50 higher than pre crisis levels the government is yet to announce any Financial Support for struggling households. Some for struggling households. Some single use plastic items are now bannedin single use plastic items are now banned in england. Businesses can no longer sell products like plastic cutlery, plates and polystyrene cups, and they face fines if they do. Local authorities will be able to carry out inspections to make sure that the rules are being followed. Andrew crook is president of the National Federation of fish friers. He says people need to be educated on how to recycle this new packaging. Packaging. This is a product called bagasse, which is a compostable. Its made from sugarcane. So it its made from sugarcane. So it does have a Carbon Footprint because it comes from china. The problem is they look very similar to whats banned, which is the expanded polystyrene. So is the expanded polystyrene. So i think theres still an educational piece from the government for consumer about how dispose of them how to dispose of them correctly. They dont find correctly. If they dont find their into a and theyre their way into a bin and theyre just discarded, theyll just act the plastic lot of the same as plastic and a lot of it, it ends up in it, even if it ends up in general waste, will either be incinerated to produce electricity end landfill. Key of the windsor a key part of the Windsor Framework has come into effect for Northern Ireland with a green and red lane system to move goods from Great Britain. Our Northern Ireland reporter Dougie Beattie has more. As the protocol grace periods end , the protocol grace periods end, the framework document comes into place. Although we must say this is a phased approach. This today a phased approach. This today really affects the retailers, the large supermarkets that have had problems with their supply chains. Those issues using groupings may still face problems and that will really hit smaller retailers. But the hit smaller retailers. But the real battle lines here will be drawn in january and right through to october next year, when customs not only look at goods travelling from gb into Northern Ireland, but also from goods leaving ireland to go back in to the uk. In to the uk. This is gb news across the uk on tv , in your car, on digital on tv, in your car, on Digital Radio and on your Smart Speaker by saying play gb news. Now lets get back to martin and gb news. Sunday news. Sunday thank you very much rte now lets get stuck into todays big topics. Today lets get stuck into todays big topics. Today marks lets get stuck into todays big topics. Today marks the first topics. Today marks the first day of the conservative Party Conference in manchester where tory members, activists and parliamentarians come together for the annual four Day Conference and jolly. Were conference and jolly. Were expected to hear very shortly from the chairman of the conservative party , greg hands, conservative party, greg hands, who going to make his opening who is going to make his opening speech mark the start of the speech to mark the start of the conference. Hes just being introduced and getting warmed up now. Before that. Joining me now. But before that. Joining me now. But before that. Joining me now gb news political now is gb news Political Correspondent Catherine Forster , also from manchester. So , also live from manchester. So just before we cross to greg hands, catherine, apologies, i may need to cut across to you. Lets talk about this slight bit of news for rishi sunak of good news for rishi sunak today , and that is this opinion today, and that is this opinion poll. The labour lead cut to poll. The labour lead cut to just ten points because it seems to be people like the rowing back on net zero. This really is a bit of good news for rishi sunak, isnt it . And goodness knows he needs it because the conservatives are here in manchester, a city never very keen on the tories at the best of times, but especially not now. It looks like the government is going to row back on the pledge to build hs2 between birmingham and manchester. But today , now its manchester. But today, now its only one poll. So they shouldnt get too excited. But there is a poll out today suggesting that labours lead over the conservatives is now down to ten points. Now thats quite a big deal because for the last year, pretty much since rishi sunak came in as Prime Minister, labour have had round about a 20 point lead. So to have cut that point lead. So to have cut that lead in half is potentially significant. And whats changed . Well, the five pledges are still there. Theyre in blazoned everywhere around this building, but he has become rather more radical in the last. Okay, catherine, im afraid i do have to cut across you now. We have to cut to greg hands. Party chairman , about to open Party Chairman, about to open the conference now. Ladies and the conference now. Ladies and gentlemen, after that unique introduction , it gives me introduction, it gives me enormous pleasure to welcome you as well to conservative Party Conference 2023 here in the dynamic city of manchester. Now, when the Prime Minister asked me to take on this role in february as your Party Chairman , i could not have been more excited. Having been a member for 37 years, 37 years and a representative at every level, chairman of my universe, city conservatives and elected Student Union officer, a ward chairman , a councillor, a group chairman, a councillor, a group leader , an mp, a government leader, an mp, a government whip, a government minister and a member of the cabinet. I can truly say that there is no greater privilege than to lead our great party into the next general election alongside our great Prime Minister, rishi sunak. Great Prime Minister, rishi sunak. But we cannot do this sunak. But we cannot do this alone and i am incredibly lucky to have a fantastic team of conservatives who work tirelessly behind the scenes and whom id like to thank personally for their dedication to our party right here in the front row. Peter booth, chairman front row. Peter booth, chairman of the national convention, who does so much for our party. Peter smallwood, the chairman of this years conference who youve just met. Stephen massi, quz ceo who has helped to transform the partys finances since a year ago. Douglas ross since a year ago. Douglas ross and andrew davies, youll hear from shortly for their outstanding work in exposing the hypocnsy outstanding work in exposing the hypocrisy of what life is like under the snp in scotland and labourin under the snp in scotland and labour in wales. And finally , my labour in wales. And finally, my fantastic team of deputy and vice chairman nicky aitken, luke hall, lee anderson, Jack Lopresti , matt vickers, craig lopresti, matt vickers, craig tracey, saqib bhatti , mo ali and tracey, saqib bhatti, mo ali and my doctor, ben spencer. So my doctor, ben spencer. So ladies and gentlemen, we are one big conservative family. Whether big conservative family. Whether youve been a member for 50 years, like edna from brecon and radnorshire or a member for just over 12 months, like leo from bristol. Now as chairman, ive had the great pleasure of campaigning this year in over 50 constituencies and if i havent got to you yet, you can expect a visit very soon. And we have seen what happens when you do great campaigning. Look at great campaigning. Look at uxbridge, the week before labour was. 25 to 1 on favourite and was. 25 to 1 on favourite and i think about that labour was so favourites that you put £100 on and if labour won youd only get £4 back. But we knew we had the right policies. A superb turnout right policies. A superb turnout from everyone across all levels of the party and a first class candidate in Steve Tuckwell. And im to going go one better than pete smallwood. Im going to actually ask Steve Tuckwell to stand up. Steve, stand up. Youd be brilliant. At and hes be brilliant. At and hes already getting stuck in at the house of commons. He truly is a fantastic parliamentary voice for the people of uxbridge and South Ruislip and proof that we can come from behind to win as we have done so often before. So we have done so often before. So i would ask that everyone captures the energy which went into winning in uxbridge and gets out to support our fantastic current by election candidates in in tamworth and mid bedfordshire andy cooper and festus akinbusoye. So by elections aside, we will of course have several elections next year, a full set of local elections in may. Police and crime commissioner elections led by our fantastic group leader katie bourne. We also have our flagship mayors and candidates across the country standing for election next year in the west midlands, we have andy street, the east midlands, ben bradley tees valley, ben houchen, north yorkshire, qin duncan and others. And in london gla and mayoral elections. As pete has already elections. As pete has already said, a chance to throw out a labour mayor who has been an unmitigated disaster for our great capital city. Proof again, as if we didnt need to see it again. We know this that when labour run things they run them badly. London has are starting to see through it and we have a brilliant candidate in susan hall who will on the 2nd of may prove to sadiq khan that actually sadiq cant and we will and i dont think im breaking any state secrets here also have any state secrets here also have a general election now this is likely to be a general election where the conservatives enter as the underdogs. And i know in the underdogs. And i know in recent years you will have had Difficult Conversations with voters. I certainly have. But i voters. I certainly have. But i would say just three things about those conversations. First, every single conversation ihave first, every single conversation i have had on the doorstep has been improved by the mention of rishi sunak and the job that he does as our Prime Minister. So that there is no enthusiasm for sir keir starmer and even less trust in him and the third, that wherever labour runs something in the country, they run it badly. Let me tell you first about our great Prime Minister. The message coming across loud and clear from the doorstep is that people can see were moving in the right direction. That the conservatives are getting on with the job and that rishi sunakis with the job and that rishi sunak is the right man to steer this country through extremely challenging times. People challenging times. People understand also the tough choices and the trade offs that true leadership entails. They true leadership entails. They look at our Prime Minister and see someone who is to prepared make the tough, long term decisions to get the country on the right path for our future. Someone whos not afraid to challenge the old style westminster politics of short termism that we have seen so much of in the past that earns respect. It wins trust, and it will be by continuing to win that trust and respect that we will also win nationally next year , which takes me to my year, which takes me to my second point, that there is no liking for sir keir starmer and definitely no trust who is the real sir keir starmer , the real sir keir starmer, the friend and supporter of jeremy corbyn, the puppet of tony blair, or the mouthpiece of Just Stop Oil. All we do know is that stop oil. All we do know is that he has broken every single leadership pledge and flip flopped almost 60 times in just three years. This is a man who will literally say anything that suits him at that time. Ive always thought that the best leaders wake up each morning and ask themselves, what am i going to do today . Some leaders ask to do today . Some leaders ask themselves , what am i going to themselves, what am i going to say today . Sir keir wakes up and say today . Sir keir wakes up and asks himself, what am i going to believe today . And ladies and believe today . And ladies and gentlemen , can i just let you gentlemen, can i just let you into also a little bit of a secret . These are available. Anybody who likes this association of sir keir starmer with flip flops, i have these available at the conservative shop outside for just £16. Available at the conservative shop outside forjust £16. 99. Shop outside for just £16. 99. Also online at conservatives. Com. Your own pair there of sir keir starmer, flip flops. I warmly recommend them to you. But not once to you. But not once has there been any clear plan for britain from sir keir. He is not been any clear plan for britain from sir keir. He is not honest from sir keir. He is not honest with people about the challenges that the country faces. He has that the country faces. He has no new ideas criticises from the sidelines is calling for yet more money to be magicked up now heres another thing we know that wherever labour runs, something , they run it badly. Something, they run it badly. Ive already mentioned london. Look at wales. Were going to look at wales. Were going to hear from andrew rt davies later this afternoon and david davis, the secretary of state for wales patients almost twice as likely to be on the nhs waiting list as they are in england. But they are in england. But according to sir keir labour in wales is quote, a blue print for what they would do in westminster. Now thats not a blueprint. Ladies and gentlemen. It is a red flag and its bringing wales to a standstill. Bringing wales to a standstill. I look at labour on Birmingham City council, its leader handpick sacked by sir keir and as union paymasters to sort out the finances praised by sir keir just a few months ago. So what did they do . They voted unanimously to bump up their own pay unanimously to bump up their own pay packet below millions of pounds on consultants , all paid pounds on consultants, all paid for by hiking council tax for hard working local people by the maximum amount. This is europes largest local authority before being hit by a £760 million legal bill for and here is the irony equal pay claim. £760 irony equal pay claim. £760 million for one local authority. A Labour Council that spent more time thinking up. You might remember this from the height of the pandemic, more time thinking up new woke street names than looking after their own finances. Birmingham city council really did have a diversity grove. They had an inspire alley and now, ladies and gentlemen, they are up bankruptcy avenue. From what up bankruptcy avenue. From what we do know of labours plans for the uk, the entire country would go the same way. Labours plan for energy we lovingly crafted by Just Stop Oil would leave us gasping for Energy Imports from unfriendly foreign powers. Their plan for immigration action would see the numbers coming into this country decided not by us, but by brussels and their plan for the economy has already signed the uk up to £90 billion of uncosted funding commitments before putting money on the credit card. Didnt work out so well for them last time. Now you could probably work out where this is going. Dear chief secretary , no money left. Left. Secretary, no money left. Left. And that reminder, ladies and gentlemen , should tell us that gentlemen, should tell us that we need to work to stop labour getting back in. We cannot let them do to the uk what they have done to wales, what they have done to wales, what they have done to wales, what they have done to london and what they have done to birmingham. There is a surefire way to stop them in their tracks. Its the effective campaigning. Ladies and gentlemen , and winning next and gentlemen, and winning next year at all levels. Now let me tell you something about somebody who did know a thing or two about campaigning. A much two about campaigning. A much loved member of our conservative family who represented his constituency. Constituency. S okay. That was greg hands there kicking off the Tory Party Conference in manchester when a cut back to our panel know Aaron Bastani and alex bence still with us gentlemen there was one laugh out loud moment there from us when he said Birmingham City had an inspire avenue and now theyre bankruptcy avenue. But i was struck by two things before i cut to you. First of all, they didnt even talk about manchester. It was obsessed with london, obsessed with birmingham and wales, putting the boot continually into to the labour party. The entire speech was defined around having a go at the labour party and in particular sadiq khan , who particular sadiq khan, who theyre going to call sadiq cut. I thought that fell a bit flat. And then they also had a major go. Greg hands at keir starmer, who is the real keir starmer, who is the real keir starmer is he the puppet of blair or corbyns mouthpiece . Blair or corbyns mouthpiece . And then a bizarre moment where they introduced the keir starmer flip flops. Aaron bastani what did you make of that from greg hands . Well, im to going pinch benedicts joke. He said they have to get the money from somewhere, what with all the donors and think donors leaving. And i think i dont flip flops are going dont think flip flops are going to the gap, its to fill the gap, but its a start. I suppose. Look, i mean, im sure of viewers im sure some of your viewers and aware of my and listeners are aware of my politics, but i have to say, these people are hucksters. You cannot party cannot say that the labour party coming threat with coming in are a threat with regards to immigration. The year after net immigration of 600,000. Feel so sorry for 600,000. And i feel so sorry for tory voters who are deceived by these people. They are lying to you. They are lying to you , you. They are lying to you, theyre deceiving you. Theyre saying, labour runs saying, well, labour runs birmingham poorly because birmingham so poorly because of this case, by the way, this historic case, by the way, that went to the Supreme Court that went to the Supreme Court that precedent for dozens that set a precedent for dozens of other councils across the rest of the country. It was a historic case back historic case going back decades. To see decades. So were going to see more and more councils in the exact situation. And id exact same situation. And id like to ask a question really of the conservatives. What are they running . Well, you i live running . Well, you know, i live in south east of england, in the south east of england, apparently the most apparently one of the most affluent of the country. Affluent parts of the country. Britain is still the sixth largest economy the world. Largest economy in the world. And of england and the south east of england is the affluent part of the the most affluent part of the country. Walk down high country. I walk down high streets. It looks mess streets. Martin it looks a mess. It looks a mess. So what are they running correctly . Thats they running correctly . Thats the question i would greg hands. Okay. Benedict, hes talking to got a quick minute to you. Ive got a quick minute on this. You inspired by on this. Were you inspired by that the fact that or dismayed by the fact they were contained, defining themselves labour . I think its interesting that this going to be this is how its going to be framed because theyre taking the of labour, the few incidences of labour, individuals the few incidences of labour, indivi power and theyre using are in power and theyre using this to try to spin it against, as the fact the as aaron says, the fact that the tories as news viewers know tories as gb news viewers know full have not been full well, have not been brilliant key things like brilliant on key things like immigration. Very stark immigration. Its a very stark thing. All thing. And this is all about, i think, because what youll hear from i think, from labour is, i think, understandable. Will say, understandable. People will say, oh, she crashed the oh, liz truss, she crashed the economy. Johnson was economy. Boris johnson was a disaster a lot of disaster and i think a lot of people oh, so were people will go, oh, so were weighing the one up whos useless the what useless against the other. What the tories are going to try and do say, this is a reset, this do is say, this is a reset, this is rishi sunak attempt to is the rishi sunak attempt to come policies come out with these new policies is its an entirely new is a reset. Its an entirely new slate tories. Its whether or slate of tories. Its whether or not prepared to not the voters are prepared to buy whether or theyre buy that, whether or not theyre prepared sunak the prepared to give rishi sunak the benefit of the doubt and go, okay, hes now offering okay, what hes now offering me does clean slate and does look like a clean slate and it better than keir it looks better than keir starmer. Is a gamble, i starmer. It is a gamble, but i dont that they have dont really see that they have much go right now. Much else to go with right now. Okay, gentlemen, you okay, gentlemen, thank you very superb stuff very much for that superb stuff youre listening youre watching and listening to gb martin gb news sunday with me. Martin daubney loads more coming up on todays show, including the Prime Ministers refused to confirm birmingham confirm whether the birmingham to manchester of hs2 be to manchester leg of hs2 will be axed. So what is the future of the high speed rail line . All of that and more to come. Im Martin Daubney and youre watching, listening to news, watching, listening to gb news, britains news. The peoples channel. Britains news channel. Britains news channel. And welcome back to gb news sunday with me, Martin Daubney on your tv online and on your Digital Radio. Now the Prime Minister has again refused to rule out hs2 being scaled back, despite what former Prime Minister theresa may wading in and joining Boris Johnson and David Cameron and George Osborne and Michael Heseltine in urging rishi sunak not to axe the project. Rishi sunak completely project. Rishi sunak completely swerved the question when asked where will have to begin and where will have to begin and where will have to begin and where will hs2 end . Where will hs2 end . And weve got spades in the ground on hs2 and were cracking on with delivering it. But funnily enough, i was just talking to people here in berlin what were doing berlin about what were doing for up. Weve just for them to level up. Weve Just Announced £1 billion of investment in towns across investment in 55 towns across the because there are lots of the uk because there are lots of different can level different ways that we can level up. Not just about our big up. Its not just about our big cities. More people live in towns big cities and towns than big cities and we want to back them. The Prime Minister what are the Prime Minister doesnt know where it starts and where it ends. What will my panel of it . Lets turn panel make of it . Lets turn first to benedict its first to benedict spence. Its become again a huge talking become once again a huge talking point. Its been rattling on for years. Not a single passenger has gone down the line. Should it be the of the line for it be the end of the line for hs2 in terms of the cost . It is getting to the sort of the astronomical stage where its justify. Its difficult to justify. However find it however where i find it disgraceful that we can find ourselves in a position where we are of building what are incapable of building what are incapable of building what are not. Actually, what i would say major Infrastructure Projects. Theyre increasingly becoming rather basic Infrastructure Projects across becoming rather basic infras competitors ects across becoming rather basic infras competitors , ts across becoming rather basic infras competitors , otheross becoming rather basic infras competitors , other nations other competitors, other nations that we would seek to compare ourselves with. Were unable to do it without a sort of a huge cross. You go to spain, you go to italy, they already high to italy, they already have high speed theyve got speed Rail Networks. Theyve got on, them and on, theyve built them and theyve at a fraction theyve built them at a fraction of the cost. Now, are many of the cost. Now, there are many reasons why, but we consult a lot more people. We want to try and do the decent thing. Want and do the decent thing. We want to constituents. We to do right by constituents. We want right by the want to do right by the environment. Actually environment. Fine. But actually we sit back we do have to sort of sit back and say its got to a stage now where is unsafe, attainable. Where it is unsafe, attainable. And say, were even and as you say, were not even getting where its getting to a point where its getting to a point where its getting built and were talking about slashing it. About slashing half of it. Manchester birmingham might about slashing half of it. Mareveriter birmingham might about slashing half of it. Mareveriter built,ningham might about slashing half of it. Mareveriter built,ninghayouiight not ever get built, which you would would have would have thought would have been would been the bit that you would start at the bit. Start with at the cheaper bit. The major the combining the two major cities. And i find it so dispiriting actually that that is option is to is now the option is to say, well, either going to well, were either going to mothball completely mothball it or just completely cancel we can just cancel it and we can just make do the other railway do with the other Railway Services because this is also what people saying, what you hear people saying, well, spend that well, why dont we spend that money Rail Networks money levelling up Rail Networks between liverpool and manchester and sheffield . And leeds and sheffield . Everybody knows full well that and leeds and sheffield . Everyb will nows full well that and leeds and sheffield . Everyb will notis full well that and leeds and sheffield . Everyb will not be ull well that and leeds and sheffield . Everyb will not be usedzll that and leeds and sheffield . Everyb will not be used to that money will not be used to upgrade services because upgrade these services because theyll run into the exact same issues that hs2 faces , which is issues that hs2 faces, which is all sorts of people opposing it. Huge amounts of money wasted on cancel bolting on aspects of the building that is frankly unnecessary that is the unnecessary and that is the state that we are in. And its not just railways, its obviously like runways. Obviously things like runways. We all about heathrow. Its we all know about heathrow. Its building its water building energy. Its water reservoirs, all sorts of reservoirs, its all sorts of things. It reservoirs, its all sorts of things. It becoming reservoirs, its all sorts of things. It becoming overly things. It is becoming overly expensive to build anything that a country needs to function as a first world country. And i think thats people have to thats what people have to reflect these are based reflect on. These are based sick things, advanced technology things, not advanced technology. Yeah. Em. Yeah. Aaron bastani, meanwhile, Aaron Bastani, the chinese built chinese have probably built about 300 power stations in the same time , but the cost is same time, but the cost is significant. £23 billion would be saved if we got rid of this manchester to birmingham leg. And i think that that is money that could be better spent on things like today. We saw £700 million announced for local bus services akin to andy burnham. S services akin to andy burnham. S network b scheme in manchester. More kind of public control, presumably youd be in favour of transport Solutions Like that. Instead of spending all this money on on Something Like hs2 to londoners around the to get londoners around the country ten minutes quicker. Well, hs2 isnt just that, thats the thing. Thats the key thing. Hs2 does things. It so hs2 does two things. It speeds up the connection between london manchester or london and manchester or potentially and potentially manchester and birmingham but allows birmingham, but it also allows greater tracks greater volume on the tracks because all of a sudden you dont to have long dont have to have the Long Distance trains on the same track as the hyperlocal ones. And of course we want to increase all kinds of journeys. What i would say is its incredible to me that the home of victorian capitalism , im the of victorian capitalism, im the home of the Industrial Revolution , manchester does not revolution, manchester does not have a high speed connection to our capital already. And as our capital city already. And as you said, this is you said, benedict, this is basic stuff, right . Indonesia can do high speed rail tajikstan can do high speed rail tajikstan can do high speed rail tajikstan can do high speed rail. Well, my father is from iran. They have high speed rail. We are not talking about technology thats going to be for the 22nd century. This is arguably late 20th century technology. So 20th century technology. So i think its shameful and ill finish with this. We want high speed rail connections in this country. We also want them to be cheap. I think most people would agree that. You say, agree on that. And like you say, the problem is the cost. I would say lets complete this. Lets have manchester, birmingham and have manchester, birmingham and have as to what the have a huge audit as to what the hell has gone wrong and how to avoid it. Again in the future. Ben, how helpful you think ben, how helpful do you think it is deliberate . In it is or is it deliberate . In fact, people boris fact, that people like Boris Johnson, are wading johnson, theresa may, are wading to in attack rishi on today , the to in attack rishi on today, the opening day of his own conference . Im sure that conference . Well im sure that there is plenty of political point going on, point scoring going on, certainly Boris Johnson point scoring going on, cert. Rishi Boris Johnson point scoring going on, cert. Rishi sunak. Boris johnson and rishi sunak. Not helpful him at its not helpful to him at all. But again , this is this is all. But again, this is this is something that rishi sunak has inherited. Are inherited. You know, these are things that have happened on other ministers watches other Prime Ministers watches that find that he does have to find a solution to. So its all very well Boris Johnson coming out and saying would a and saying it would be a disgrace. Do agree in disgrace. And i do agree in principle, is the of principle, this is the sort of infrastructure principle, this is the sort of infrastr be ure ahead , but its should be going ahead, but its not actually rishi sunaks fault that costs so much. And as that it costs so much. And as aaron we need to back aaron says, we need to go back and find why it is and actually find out why it is that has ended costing that this has ended up costing so who is to blame . So much and who is to blame . Because the because im sure some of the blame fall rishi sunak. Blame will fall on rishi sunak. But were other prime but there were other Prime Ministers before who gave the green to certain things. Green light to certain things. They will have to come under scrutiny they will have to come under scrlitsy they will have to come under scrl its worth they will have to come under scrlits worth pointing out its worth pointing out people andy the people like andy street, the mayor he really mayor of birmingham, he really wants and down the wants this. Mps up and down the line want this line really want this constituency because they do like of like i like the idea of like where i used toton, the east used to live in toton, the east midlands. Want midlands. They really want it around increase the around there to increase the Freight Network ability. So it takes the transport off of motonnays, puts it on the on the so it can go up and down that way. Nevertheless the tories are at crossroads. What are they at a crossroads. What are they going do . Going to do . Think theyll honestly, i think theyll probably mothballing probably end up mothballing it. Theyll the theyll kick the can down the road. Say, well, well road. Theyll say, well, well do, well get far no do, well get this far and no further. Probably the birmingham, leg. Birmingham, manchester leg. I think probably now , think thats probably done now, but they sort of but they wont sort of completely theyll say, completely kill it. Theyll say, well, lets revisit this further down i suspect thats down the line. I suspect thats probably happen. Probably whats going to happen. Okay again, gentlemen, youre once again, gentlemen, youre watching listening watching and listening to gb news sunday with me. Martin daubney more on todays daubney loads more on todays show up including show coming up yet, including the Prime Minister vows to end the Prime Minister vows to end the motorists, but how the war on motorists, but how does he plan to do it . Well have details on that. Have all of the details on that. But first, heres the news with ray addison. On ray addison. On thanks, martin. 32 minutes past to our top stories. The tory Party Chairman has opened the conference with a speech saying that they can win from behind. That follows comments made by the Prime Minister where he refused to commit to tax cuts. Rishi sunak says his focus is on halving inflation because it impacts the poorest the most on a visit to burnley ahead of todays gathering , the pm todays gathering, the pm insisted his approach is deeply conservative. The best tax cut that we can deliver right now is to halve inflation, and thats something that im deeply committed to. Its the first of five its the first of my five priorities. Because thats priorities. Why . Because thats how can help people the how we can help people with the cost of living. We just want to put money peoples put more money in peoples pockets. Do pockets. And the best way to do that right now is through halving inflation. That halving inflation. And that is a deeply approach deeply conservative approach to this. And my colleagues understand that this is what margaret did. Margaret thatcher did. Protests have meanwhile, protests have gathered outside the conference in manchester, calling for an end to the conservative government. Some have been seen government. Some have been seen Holding Signs reading bring down the tories and free the north. Others are protesting against the minimum Service Levels act, defending the right to strike a key part of the Windsor Framework has come into effect for Northern Ireland, with a new system introduced to move products from Great Britain goods which are being transported to the eu will now use a red lane which includes Customs Declarations and some checks , while those bound for checks, while those bound for Northern Ireland will use a green lane with minimal papennork and no checks. Not for eu labels will start appearing on some products in stores. On some products in stores. Ofgems Energy Price Cap has now fallen across england , wales and fallen across england, wales and scotland in place for the next three months. The average household bill is set to be reduced by around £150. Thats still more than 50 higher than pre crisis levels. The pre crisis levels. The government is yet to announce any Financial Support for struggling households. You can struggling households. You can find more on all of those stories on our website, gb news. Com stories on our website, gbnews. Com. Gbnews. Com. Thank you very much. Raman thank you very much. Raman okay. The Prime Minister has refused to say whether the government would block local councils from introducing 20 mile per hour zones. Any missing . The statutory guidance from Government Councils must be clear that changes have both the consent and support of the local area. Well, gb news Political Editor Christopher Hope spoke to the secretary of state for wales, david davis, about the 20 mile an hour speed limits in wales. David davis rishi sunak wants to ban council cars in england from imposing 20 mile an hour limits on populations. Why cant it do that in wales . Well, we cant do it in wales because we have a Welsh Government that has full legislative control over speed limits and theyve decided that they blanket 20 mile an they want a blanket 20 mile an hour ban. They want a blanket 20 mile an hol no an. They want a blanket 20 mile an hol no reasonable person would no reasonable person would oppose a 20 mile an hour speed limit school limit outside a school or a hospital somewhere where hospital or somewhere where there people. There are vulnerable people. But to a blanket ban in to just have a blanket ban in all and many that all urban areas and many that arent actually is arent that urban actually is completely its completely ridiculous. Its making for motorists completely ridiculous. Its m. Getg for motorists completely ridiculous. Its m. Get to for motorists completely ridiculous. Its m. Get to work. For motorists completely ridiculous. Its m. Get to work. Itsir motorists completely ridiculous. Its m. Get to work. Its actually;ts to get to work. Its actually causing people causing problems for people catching because theyve catching buses because theyve had their schedules had to tear up their schedules as. It doesnt there as well. It doesnt stop there because not just about 20 because its not just about 20 mile hour theyre mile an hour limits. Theyre bringing the limit on bringing down the speed limit on dual carriageways. That sort dual carriageways. That sort of nebulous excuses as theyve decided to stop building any new roads from being roads ever again from being built because say its you built because they say its you know, more friendly from know, its more friendly from a climate point of for all climate point of view for all sit jams, breathing sit in traffic jams, breathing in fumes and they want to bring in fumes and they want to bring in charges. Course, like many in charges. Of course, like many other want to other cities, they want to charge us for going into cardiff. They want out cardiff. They want to take out lanes bus routes lanes and put more bus routes in. Is a disaster. A war on motorists. Do you follow the rules when its miles hour limit . Its 20 miles an hour limit . Oh, yes. Oh, yes. I always follow the rules. I say simple. Have say its very simple. You have to law. But you can to follow the law. But you can change people who the change the people who make the law. The next elections, i law. So at the next elections, i hope aware hope people will be aware that it party that are it is the labour party that are carrying out a war on motorists and can change that. And and we can change that. And theres whitehall theres no powers in whitehall to what theyre doing theres no powers in whitehall to wales what theyre doing theres no powers in whitehall to wales aswhat theyre doing theres no powers in whitehall to wales as can theyre doing theres no powers in whitehall to wales as can happen doing theres no powers in whitehall to wales as can happen inying in wales as can happen in scotland. There are are no scotland. There are there are no people have for senate. People have voted for a senate. People voted for it to have people have voted for it to have law if people people have voted for it to have law not if people people have voted for it to have law not happy if people people have voted for it to have law not happy with if people people have voted for it to have law not happy with the if people people have voted for it to have law not happy with the lawsyeople are not happy with the laws being passed, we need to change the passing the laws. The people passing the laws. So can the minister so can the Prime Minister stop well, stop the war on motorists . Well, join a legendary join me now is a legendary motoring quentin motoring journalist, quentin wilson. Its always a pleasure to on show, to have you on the show, quentin, is there quentin, first of all, is there a on motorists and is the a war on motorists and is the right solution to scrap things like 20 mile an hour limits . Like 20 mile an hour limits . Theres always been a war on motorists and for as long as ive been writing and broadcasting about cars and trying engage with the trying to engage with the government about making things easier drivers, theyve easier for drivers, theyve always , you know, the car always seen, you know, the car driver is a single fly in the ointment of their daily labours. Approach an. Suddenly, as we approach an election, weve got this complete volte face and the 20 mile an hour speed limit. Its really important to understand that they are very , very that they are very, very valuable in reducing whats known csis killed known as csis killed and serious injuries. And weve got serious injuries. And weve got to have a stack of data that says, know, if youre hit at says, you know, if youre hit at 20 you stand 20 miles an hour, you stand a much, much better chance much, much, much better chance of surviving and having less serious outside serious injuries. So outside schools in built up areas, Residential School where there are vulnerable pedestrians , its are vulnerable pedestrians, its really, really important. But really, really important. But the irony here, martin, is the 20 mile an hour speed limit was Us Government policy. Conservative government policy. The dft did a Research Document in 2014, i think it was asking for data about 20. 20 mile an hour speed limits and then when they published it, they recommended that local councils should look at enforcing more 20 mile an hour speed limits. So this is very disingenuous and its clearly naked political electioneering from a government thats worried about its declining majorities. So, you know , hes looking really know, hes looking really embarrassed when youve got a situation where for years and years and years theyve pushed all these policies , but now when all these policies, but now when theyre in trouble , its theyre in trouble, its a complete, you know, 360 degree u turn. U turn. Yeah, the government has done a u turn on this. Its interesting to point out, though, quentin, theres a petition online at the moment and the number of people against the 21 hour ban in wales is 453,000 exceeds the number of people who voted for the welsh labour party. 443,000 at the last senate election. So i guess the tories are saying that when you give the people a chance to vote on this as we saw in uxbndge vote on this as we saw in uxbridge over ulez, then the party of the motorists seems to be the party thats picking up votes. Votes. Yeah , so, so these two things yeah, so, so these two things have become weaponised air quality, ulez and road safety 20 miles an hour, which is a great, great shame because these are two really important things in society that we should be defending and we should be bringing with us bringing the population with us with these things and not making it such toxic issue. Ill it such a toxic issue. Ill grant you that wales have been a little bit overzealous with with no more road building, but it has to be said there are councils in wales that can still choose whether they do 20 miles an hour and there are plenty of roads wales 30, 40, 50, roads in wales with 30, 40, 50, 60, 70 miles an hour. So as we approach the conservative Party Conference, we will see this war of motorists increase in volume and visibility because theres 50 million licence holders out there and sunak and the party want to tap into that because it could make all the difference between winning and losing. Between winning and losing. Quentin wilson, thank you for joining us on gb news sunday. Its always a fabulous pleasure to you on the thank to have you on the show. Thank you. Appreciate gentlemen, you. Appreciate it. Gentlemen, back expense aaron back to bannau expense and Aaron Bastani. To you bastani. Aaron, ill come to you first. Makes a valid first. Quentin makes a valid point. This first. Quentin makes a valid point. This is nakedly political. Here we are wales. Theres. Here we are in wales. Theres been a huge backlash and its talismanic. I think that the handsin talismanic. I think that the hands in his opening speech kept mentioning uxbridge. They see it. I think , as a potential of it. I think, as a potential of turning the tide by focusing on things like 20 mile an hour limits and ulez the tories see a chance of winning seats again. Lets put this in context. I dont think labour has ever won uxbndge dont think labour has ever won uxbridge before. So the fact that the tories are saying we kept a seat which labour has never won is being seen as this hail mary to forming a government. Those are very different way. Different things, by the way. I think that tells you think that really tells you about the problem about the scale of the problem theyre right now in theyre facing right now in terms war the motorist terms of the war on the motorist. Fuel duty, fuel duty in. Cut fuel duty, fuel duty in this country is 57. 9 £0. 05 estate, the same for 12 years. Jeremy hunt has said its going to stay the same until next yean to stay the same until next year. So the tax on fuel has stayed the same for 12 years. That doesnt sound like a war on the motorist to me. In the long term. Terms of whats term. Now, in terms of whats going on in wales, not building any roads, the 20 mile per any more roads, the 20 mile per hour limit in residential areas, it should be said ulez. Think it should be said ulez. I think the tories quite the tories can quite compellingly story compellingly make a story that something changing something is decisively changing against the motorist. Over the last year or two. Thats a separate thing and i do worry that labour is overstepping the mark here, so i dont drive. I mark here, so i dont drive. I think we need to decarbonise our economies as quickly as possible. But the point is we need to focus on getting emissions down and that doesnt necessarily building necessarily mean not building anything anymore. So for instance, we need steel to build high speed will high speed rail that will require coal. The idea that require some coal. The idea that you cant have used ever you cant have used coal ever again is nonsensical china. Again is nonsensical in china. So , thats the question. Do so well, thats the question. Do we get the coal from or we get the coal from here or do we get the coal from here or do we get the coal from here or do we get from so you we get it from china . So you need a sensible debate on this. And i think were not going to build new roads. Isnt build any new roads. To me isnt a this. A solution to addressing this. I would also like to see investment other where investment in other places where im wouldnt. Im sure many tories wouldnt. But secondary but thats a secondary conversation. Conversation. Lets go to bannau ian okay, lets go to bannau bannau will bannau a lot of people will point course, that for point out of course, that for safety particularly safety reasons, particularly around hospitals, safety reasons, particularly around like hospitals, safety reasons, particularly around like that, hospitals, safety reasons, particularly around like that, miletals, safety reasons, particularly around like that, mile ani, places like that, 20 mile an hour are a good thing. Hour limits are a good thing. But whats your take how the but whats your take on how the tories seemingly weaponizing tories are seemingly weaponizing this motorists as a way this war on motorists as a way of votes . I mean, this of getting votes . I mean, this is, i think, part of the broader gamble peoples gamble around what peoples perspectives gamble around what peoples perspectyou can of tie all because you can sort of tie all of these things in together, but also we can back to what we also we can go back to what we were about earlier. Were talking about earlier. And whether or hs2, and whether or not thats to ahead. What thats going to go ahead. What we often lose sight of thats going to go ahead. What w the often lose sight of thats going to go ahead. What w the fact often lose sight of thats going to go ahead. What w the fact that] lose sight of thats going to go ahead. What w the fact that in se sight of thats going to go ahead. What w the fact that in ae sight of thats going to go ahead. What w the fact that in a lotght of thats going to go ahead. What w the fact that in a lot of. Of is the fact that in a lot of parts of the country, public transport arent parts of the country, public transgood. Arent parts of the country, public transgood. Its arent parts of the country, public transgood. Its asimply very good. And its not simply a question being sort of question of people being sort of pigheaded and saying, well, i refuse give up my car. Its refuse to give up my car. Its a physically cant give up physically i cant give up my car situation. When car kind of situation. And when youre at the youre looking at the constriction on the Railway Lines equally, road systems lines, equally, the road systems between major cities like bradford and leeds and manchester, actually it is a nightmare navigate much of nightmare to navigate much of these places. So if you just sort that additional sort of add that additional little of, oh , and the little caveat of, oh, and by the way, when is a bit of way, even when there is a bit of space move, you cant go very space to move, you cant go very quickly. Add quickly. Its going to add that much of onto your much amount of time onto your journey. It does begin to build up does begin to grate, up and it does begin to grate, i think, a mistake that the tories would though, of would make though, is to sort of suggest motoring are this would make though, is to sort of suggthat motoring are this would make though, is to sort of suggthat thinking are this would make though, is to sort of suggthat think the are this would make though, is to sort of suggthat think the sameis would make though, is to sort of suggthat think the same way bloc that all think the same way because motorists are the same people have who people that have children who might play the street people that have children who miare play the street people that have children who miare upset play the street people that have children who miare upset because the street people that have children who miare upset because theirstreet people that have children who miare upset because their petst or are upset because their pets might a car because might get hit by a car because some, speeding. So some, some idiot is speeding. So it keep on using it is again, we keep on using this expression its gamble. This expression. Its a gamble. They idea they are gambling on the idea that particular group of that this particular group of people have been pushed slightly further they like further than they would like to be, are always be, but they are not always going of one mind going to be all of one mind and they different they may have very different views should be the views on what should be the future. Of motorists would future. A lot of motorists would perhaps aaron and perhaps be the same as aaron and say we need to be say actually we need to be decarbonising. Its simply a case that are other case that there are no other opfions case that there are no other options for them. There isnt the infrastructure electric the infrastructure for electric vehicles in the part of the country to country that they happen to live on. So it is something that i think theyre going the think if theyre going down the sort oxbridge and sort of the oxbridge route and going, shows that there sort of the oxbridge route and gca ig, shows that there sort of the oxbridge route and gca sort shows that there sort of the oxbridge route and gca sort of shows that there sort of the oxbridge route and gca sort of a shows that there sort of the oxbridge route and gca sort of a core ws that there sort of the oxbridge route and gca sort of a core demographics is a sort of a core demographic maybe, think its rather maybe, but i think its rather a lot to be sort nailing your lot to be sort of nailing your flag to at this point. Ben expense. Aaron okay. Ben expense. Aaron bastani, thank you very much for that. And that. Excellent as ever and loads been in loads of you been getting in touch view on this war touch with your view on this war on motorists. 1 in on motorists. Pierre says 1 in 20 sleeping on 20 children are sleeping on floors parents to floors and parents are unable to afford their beds. Afford to replace their beds. But the conservatives want to talk , potholes talk about cars, potholes and speed pierre, speed limits. Well pierre, i think all of those things are important, alex says. There is no war on motorists. Interesting point. A lot of people are saying the same thing, although clearly not rishi sunak luke saysin clearly not rishi sunak luke says in london, youre lucky if you can even drive at 20 now anyway. These roadworks, anyway. These days, roadworks, bus lanes, bike lanes, traffic jams youll get used to it. Glass half empty view. There keep those views coming in. Theres still loads more coming up on todays show, including a ban on single use. Plastics has come into force in england with plastic cutlery and plates no longer on the table. Good fun. So are businesses coping with the change . More details on that shortly. Im Martin Daubney and this is gb news. Britains news channel. Company right through until 7 00 this evening. Gb news the peoples. Channel welcome back peoples. Channel welcome back to gb news sunday with me, Martin Daubney on your tv, onune Martin Daubney on your tv, online and on your Digital Radio. Well, from today, businesses in england are banned from selling single use plastic cutlery, polystyrene cups and food containers. Its part of a government effort to reduce litter and protect the environment. But for many struggling, struggling businesses owners, it comes at a price. Our reporter ray addison went to woodstock in oxfordshire to find out how two very different outlets are dealing with this change. Dirty streets and polluted watennays. Thats the legacy of single use plastics. However, single use plastics. However, from today, the government is forcing most Business Owners to go green or face tough fines at the more than 300 year old Blenheim Palace in woodstock , Blenheim Palace in woodstock, theyre replacing half a million single use coffee cups with 17,000 that can be washed and returned , saving 35 tonnes of returned, saving 35 tonnes of co2. David green is head of co2. David green is head of innovation. Innovation. When we serve over 400,000 hot drinks at blenheim and many of those cups, even though theyre compostable, can only be composted up to about 5. With food waste. So actually eradicating single use cups really does fit into our overall strategy of becoming Carbon Neutral by 2027. The Company Behind blenheims high tech coffee cup revolution is re universe, which offers a range of reusable food and drink containers. Founder tony mcguirk explains how it works. This cup has some really neat technology in it, so it has a qr code on the side to give it an identity to you as a consumer, and it has underneath an rfid chip enabled in the cup itself so that we know where the cup is and what its doing. When it gets returned, youll go into a coffee shop, youll buy your coffee, as you normally would do, youll pay a deposit on do, and youll pay a deposit on that cup. Rather than heres that cup. So rather than heres a paper cup, throw away, you a paper cup, throw it away, you now have a cup that is reused and re washable and youve invested £2 in it. For instance. So if you want your £2 back, youll make sure it comes back and gets washed and reused due to the receipt. But revolutions are expensive i just a few minutes walk away from Blenheim Palace is smarts fish and chip shop owner Ricardo Camara says meeting the new regulations is costing him hundreds plastic bags. Hundreds plastic bags. Cups and leeds boxes. Bin cups and leeds boxes. Bin liners , other bits and bobs. Im liners, other bits and bobs. Im going to lose easily £600 worth of items. This is just the latest challenge. Ricardo has faced to his livelihood. During covid, he his livelihood. During covid, he was forced to close down his restaurant. Now, after a brief restaurant. Now, after a brief time of being back on his feet, once again, hes worried for the future. Future. I lost a big, big time money around the covid. Then i decided to take this one over. I take another risk. Now this thing comes along again. So Sabita Thanwani on the chips . Yes, please. Ricardo believes he has around six months to see if he can stay profitable. And in the meantime, his increased overheads will have to be passed on to his customers. I kind of take from my own pocket, you know. So whatever i pocket, you know. So whatever i bnng pocket, you know. So whatever i bring it in, i have to increase in the price. In the price. The government says 95 of the public support. Its the single use plastic ban. But at single use plastic ban. But at a time when many are struggling with the cost of living, its impact could help the environment. But damage the high street. Ray addison gb news woodstock. Woodstock. Maybe i want fish and chips now. I certainly do. Well, lots of you have been getting in touch with your views on rishi sunak leadership after the latest polls. Mark says this sunakis latest polls. Mark says this sunak is about as radical as a coat stand. Says it all. Ian says this the tories are a party of inaction. They promise us the world and have delivered nothing except for far more tax. Ethan says this most of us want the tories out. Its just a huge problem as to who to replace them with. And mark says rishi them with. And mark says rishi is clutching at straws to say the least. You think he Still Believes that people want him after rejecting him several times . Clueless as to the point times . Clueless as to the point there. Mark, keep those views coming in. Well, thats it from me today. But please stay tuned because the legendary nana is up next and shes just whisked into the studio. Nana whats on your menu . Well, im very excited because weve weve got because weve got weve got were going to be hearing whats his shapps, his name, grant shapps, his speech. His name, grant shapps, his speand hopefully James Cleverly and hopefully James Cleverly as well during show during as well during my show during the Party Conference. So the Tory Party Conference. So looking dissecting looking fonnard to dissecting what have to say because, what they have to say because, you know, and also looking at the whole thing the echr, the whole thing with the echr, ill should we be ill be asking, should we be leaving or should we stay . Leaving it or should we stay . And perhaps our illegal and perhaps use our illegal migration bill because there are clauses in there that will enable ignore what the enable us to ignore what the european courts say and do what we want, which we should be able to anyway. But i dont why to anyway. But i dont know why we havent, looking at we havent, and were looking at rishi as well because rishi sunak as well because were think were wondering, just think he can back, in action can bounce back, could in action man become of action . Man become a man of action . Well, theres some good news in polls today. Points. Well, theres some good news in lead ls today. Points. Well, theres some good news in lead is today. Points. Well, theres some good news in lead is down. Points. Well, theres some good news in lead is down. But points. Well, theres some good news in lead is down. But ioints. Well, theres some good news in lead is down. But i wonder, that lead is down. But i wonder, will there be enough red meat . I mean , 20 mile an hour limits, mean, 20 mile an hour limits, thats great. But as you said, the echr war. Yeah they should go for Something Like that and show that theyre serious about. Sort well, they are sort of focusing this is focusing on that now. So this is a big question. And i think he can do it actually, especially with his with sir keir starmer, his history of flip flops. Its just incredulous. All the things that hes turned his back on and changed mind. Worst one changed his mind. The worst one now the whole private now being the whole private school i think school situation, which i think is disgusting. Robbing peter to is disgusting. Robbing peter to pay is disgusting. Robbing peter to pay and sort of make pay paul to try and sort of make up for in the, you know, up for a hole in the, you know, in the sort of budget for state schools. I mean, just schools. I mean, its just ridiculous. So schools. I mean, its just ridiculous. So i think Keir Starmers got a battle on his hands. I dont think to hands. I dont think its to going be as he thinks. Going be as easy as he thinks. And rishi isnt. Boris and i think rishi isnt. Boris johnson. A totally johnson. Its a totally different long as different government. As long as they the infighting long they stop the infighting as long as the infighting, they stop the infighting as long as is the infighting, they stop the infighting as long as is a the infighting, they stop the infighting as long as is a chancethe infighting, they stop the infighting as long as is a chance superbowl,|g, there is a chance superbowl, youll be watching me. Thats news sunday with thats gb news sunday with me. But as we said, loads me. Martin but as we said, loads more coming up with nana akua. Thats amy dowden. I will see you the you soon, but first, heres the weather Greg Dewhurst. Weather with Greg Dewhurst. Hello there. Im Greg Dewhurst and welcome to your latest weather for gb news. Were looking at a mixed picture over the next few days, we will see rain, some showers as see some rain, some showers as well, but therell be some warm spells sunshine turning spells of sunshine and turning drier moves in drier as High Pressure moves in by the middle of the week. Pressure pattern the moment pressure pattern at the moment is by pressure , is dominated by low pressure, bringing in spells of rain across the country and weve got patchy rain across southern parts wales into the midlands parts of wales into the midlands as we move through this evening time. Generally remaining time. This generally remaining cloudy across the southern half of the uk, further north, drier, clearer spells, but a scattering of showers for the Northern Ireland northwest scotland. Some ireland northwest scotland. Some of these heavy at times being blown in on a brisk breeze and temperatures across the board generally staying in double figures and muggy start to monday morning. Start. Monday morning. A cloudy start. Southern counties of england and wales patchy rain developing as we through the morning and we move through the morning and into the afternoon. Some of this rain could be heavy at times brighter northern brighter skies for Northern Ireland, and ireland, Northern England and scotland a scattering of scotland with a scattering of showers. Staying quite showers. Again staying quite windy across the northwest of scotland and temperatures high teens to low 20s across the board into tuesday. We continue to remain fairly unsettled. To remain fairly unsettled. Well see showers or longer spells of rain. Well see some spells of rain. Well see some sunny spells, though, developing in between cloud the in between cloud across the southeast taking its time to clear. And temperatures generally again reaching the high into the low 20s for high teens into the low 20s for many and then High Pressure starts to build towards the starts to build in towards the middle week. Temperatures middle of the week. Temperatures near farage in a world near average farage in a world of dull and predictable radio and tv shows. Oh, hi. On mark dolan tonight oh, hi. On mark dolan tonight weve got big guests. We drill into the big stories of the day. The show adds up to a brilliant listening and viewing experience. Mark dolan tonight is the most entertaining Current Affairs show ever, and thats a fact. Affairs show ever, and thats a fact. Thats mark affairs show ever, and thats a fact. Thats mark dolan tonight friday, saturday and sunday from 9 00. Only on gb news britains news channel well , good afternoon. I was well, good afternoon. I was just enjoying my new teeth. Hello and welcome to gb news on tv, online and on Digital Radio. Im nana akua. For the next few hours, me and my panel will be taking on some of the big topics hitting headlines right now. Hitting the headlines right now. This all about opinion. This show is all about opinion. Its mine as theirs. And of course, yours. Be course, its yours. Well be debating , discussing, and at debating, discussing, and at times will disagree , but no times we will disagree, but no one be cancelled. So one will be cancelled. So joining me in the next hour is broadcaster and journalist danny kelly and also broadcaster and author christine hamilton. In author christine hamilton. In a few moments time , well be going few moments time, well be going head to head in a clash of minds with political commentator and former conservative special adviser Claire Pearsall and also former adviser to jeremy corbyn, james schneider. Before we get james schneider. Before we get started, though, lets get your latest News Headlines with ray addison. Addison. Thanks, nana. Good afternoon. Its 3 01. Our top stories. The its 3 01. Our top stories. The conservative chair, greg hands has said the tories will enter the next general election as underdogs. In his opening speech underdogs. In his opening speech at the Party Conference. His comments come just hours after the Prime Minister refused to commit to tax cuts. Rishi sunak said his focus is on halving inflation because it impacts the poorest, the most. But on poorest, the most. But on a visit to burnley , the pm visit to burnley, the pm insisted his approach is deeply conservative, saying its a thatcherite policy. Thatcherite policy. The best tax cut that we can