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trey: good evening and thank you for joining us i'm trey gowdy it is "sunday night in america", summer is barely here and already the stage is set for this unit presidential debate this week. i don't even have a tan line yet, voters will be asked to judge what is said and how it said because content and cognition are issues this year, the younger of the two candidates is 78. to be fair age at acuity doesn't always align but there have been recent incidents calling president biden's cognitive capabilities into question. i take no delight in saying that, my parents are in my 80s and if i'm lucky i'll be there one day but i won't be trying to run anything except a remote control, certainly not a nation. we've seen other politicians stay longer than they should have. some believe cochran and so too with dianne feinstein and straw thurman he was beloved of my home state and known for his stamina eventually lost to the only undefeated gladiator father time. the white house is biden is doing great, the videos are out of context, rob heard leveled a cheap shot but it seemed clear the president has slipped and continues to slip. it is possible to both be sad at watching this unfold and also angry and disappointed that others are allowing it rather than interceding and offering a graceful exit. the questioner legion, seeing candidates live in unscripted will's wage voters or alarms, will democrats overlook president biden's issues as many republicans have rationalized president trump's legal issues, will there be a moment where the nation collectively concludes that fitness for options actually matter or is it just about winning, is a vice presidential more important? martin luther once was rumored to say he would be ruled by a smart turn than a dumb christian, he didn't actually say that but the point remains, modern politics is willing to overlook almost everything so long as their side wins, relativism is never a good long-term strategy, joining us are doctor associate researcher politics of public affairs at princeton university and ryan is former senior advisor to secretary hilary clinton, welcome to you both, president wright, president biden's issues get more attention but democrats have a montage of verbal switch of president trump as well, anyone who talks for living is going to make mistakes. is acuity a real issue the cycle it if so for one or both candidates? >> i think it's both but more scrutiny including those by his own party is abided and perhaps a big problem for trump if he was running against anyone else and any other year with the candidate was someone that was younger than him but it's not and trump gets a lot of free passes because he is running like a celebrity not a politician and that's a huge benefit that he has he's always in outrageous things and many people think are offensive and he misses a lot of words, strings weird sentences together. people drop under brush it off as entertainment and showmanship and that's what comes with trump. he has not been held to the same standard but you better bet that this benefits him and hurts biden. trey: i am sure that there are democrats who affirmatively want president biden to win but i'm also sure there are democrats that want trump to lose, is there any combination of bad polling or concerns of acuity that can theoretically leave to the selection of a new candidate or is it definitely going to be biden versus trump the matter what. >> it is magical to think that 4200 or 4500 democratic national convention delegates would agree that today is sunday let alone to agree to switch our candidates but why would we switch joe biden is only person to be donald trump, he is the guy and i agree with doctor wright this is an optics not that i'm dismissing the severity of an optics issue but there's a third factor here on top of age because their identical age and mental acuity as doctor wright said they both have their lapses, this is flat out health that we never talked about, going back to 2015, donald trump forged a doctor's note like some of us did when we were in fourth grade, i certainly did, he basically deceived america or did not or was nontransparent when he went to walter reed hospital for no reason until said it was a colonoscopy that he decided to do unscheduled. there are multiple aspects to this. if this was about it was healthier or cognitive, everyone is out of luck we should have nominated these two guys, but we did they were each the oldest with elective. this is who they are and no matter who wins the good be really old with elective that should not be driving cars that does not mean they can't be good president. trey: for the record of my parents are watching i never forged a doctor's note, my dad is a doctor and i would not be alive today had i forged a doctor's note that doctor wright it looks like trump is making some inroads with the voters of color but might've slipped a bit, you will polling expert but i am not, from where i sit it looks like he's making some inroads but ground to make up from a numbers or constituency standpoint where it is the former president need to shore up support to be able to win. >> it is moderate republicans and swing voters, that's the group that put them in the white house in 2016 and took it away in 2020. i think the shifts in the gains in his favor over attached to one demographic but is because everybody is angry abiding for the same reasons and upset about the economy and inflation in particular and upset about immigration in crime, when pulled on the issues republicans tend to benefit but especially in this year it seems voters are putting the blame on biden in a way that is quite extreme and quite beneficial to trump. trey: before i thought you go, you are communication expert, july the 11th donald trump will officially be a convicted felon, how do you handle that you were joe biden. trump is going to say your non- convicted felon it is going to bring up hunter biden, is it best to avoid it, people already know what happened in from a communication standpoint what is the best way to handle it. >> i would work backwards from the fact and i think will have an answer for this poor july 11 because the debate is only four days and you have time to hit the sun, the tanning bed. but at the debate, joe biden is going to work backwards from an issue here's deeply about which is the rule of law and democra democracy. while the trial about a star might seem very far away, there's a through line which is a man donald trump, who every time he comes into contact with the court or with law pretty much dismisses it whether it's january 6, whether his child's, whether his forthcoming trials, the federal trials in georgia and i think when that happens you don't just look at it as name-calling as a felon this is a person that thinks he is above the law is not just in the selfish kind of way, here's what that means for you, it means going forward, this is what he's capable of doing, that comes very much into play with the question you had to doctor wright about pulling, throughout the primaries we are seeing there were people that were supporting president trump who were very concerned were very unhappy if he were convicted that doesn't mean if he was they were going to leave him. but if they were unhappy. we are seeing there hasn't been a huge shift in numbers but there's a soft underbelly including independence and people of color particularly box. here we have the debate these two things the debate is often carried as a distinct moment that is separate and apart from the rest of the campaign and these two moments are very close together, president biden might make these points about democracy and ball and very much appeal to these people that are not happy with donald trump and not sold on going back to joe biden or being with him in the first place. i see a situation where joe biden threads the needle or in any event is an opportunity for him to thread the needle. while donald trump might think saying something about hunter biden and felons is acute lied or a way to negate and to negate the two, it is not and joe biden is going to see something like that coming in on a larger scale, the idea that people are going to be looking to joe biden to be boring and tuning out and nodding off, the last place on what is going to be out of it is when donald trump 10 feet away yelling at them and it's human smelling salts, debate might be the best thing for joe biden in terms of abusing this notion that is one step away from falling over, it might totally boomerang on him. trey: we shall see in a few nights. it is sure to come up and i'm curious as a former prosecutor how it will be handled by both sides. until then thank you, doctor lauren right, philippe reines, will see you again over the next weeks and months, thank you for joining us on a sunday night. tune into fox news democracy 24 special coverage of the cnn presidential debate simulcast, coverage begins thursday june 27 at 8:00 p.m. eastern time. the left is preparing for a possible trump victory pro-immigration or drafting lawsuits if deportation becomes a reality, washington state governor jay inslee is stockpiling abortion drugs under some believe the trump presidency without loss some drugs. litigation will be as prevalent as legislation by this time next year. joy did as republican party conference chair elise stefanik from the great state of new york, welcome madam chair. it seems like things were a little slow out of the gates in 2016 in the russia cloud did not help. is there a legislative agenda ready to go if the gop wins the white house in the house? >> there is, thank you for the opportunity to be on your show you are a good friend and former colleague and were proud to share our message. we are focused every day on ensuring we have a historic victory on election day, president trump continues to do well when he is pulling ahead everywhere but we know in addition to electing president trump we need to flip the senate but most importantly we need to make sure that we maintain and gain seats in the house, were working on the political strategy to win but to hit the ground running to govern on behalf of the american people and particularly as you're seeing so many crises because of joe biden's failed policy were ready to go on day one to support president trump agenda and i want to outline it few key focuses one is securing the border we passed the secure border act which would return to president trump's effective border security policies which have been completely washed away catastrophic under joe biden, additionally were focused on unleashing american energy independence we passed h.r.1 twitter unleash a boom of american energy independence would joe biden declared war on on day one. in addition we want to return peace through strength and i'm focused on that on the house armed services committee and the house intelligence committee and i mean strongly supported our allies like israel which joe biden has turned his back on. were working to make sure that we can hit the ground running on day one and deliver productive results to the american people immediately. trey: congresswoman weeks in another young woman killed at the hands of somebody let loose in this country a child murdered in texas by a man who claimed that they were fearful of danger in their own country and other child sexually assaulted by someone who crossed the border, biden claims the senate bill would've solved all of these problems, they no would not have but that's what hook claimed, is there gop plan that can pass congress, secure the border and began to expeditiously remove those who cannot follow our laws before they kill and rape people? >> absolutely this is another tragedy and human tragedy what is happening at our southern border and our border i represent northern border district as well as this is another loss of life stemming from the illegal immigration crisis which is because of joe biden's border policies. what we included which we passed despite are very slim majority that we hold today was ending catch and release, now we know that these illegal violent criminals who murdered this innocent young beautiful girl we know that they were encountered by border patrol, but because of catching the lease, they were released, therefore unfortunately they committed a heinous, heinous violent murder and they need to be held accountable, how we do that is ensuring that we have the house majority to vote again on secure the border and the senate passes the bill and president trump will sign that into law and because of president trump's policies in the humanitarian crisis think about the human trafficking that has occurred because of the border crisis, there is not about a focus on this but nearly 100,000 minors have been lost completely by joe biden's department of homeland security, they don't even know who they are who were illegally trafficked across our southern border, this is a humanitarian crisis in the loss of lies to life is impacting communities and families as we saw with the 12 year old girl in texas. trey: you mention the margin, and the pleasure of sitting beside you on the floor of the house and on the committee. i know that your personality is infectious and formidable. if anyone in the world can get republicans to quit fighting with one another and coalesce it would be you. thank you for joining us on a sunday night, my best to your handsome young son sam. the world is on fire, is there a plan to put the fires out? former u.s. ambassador to the european union gordon sondland makes the case next, only on "sunday night in america". some people just know that the best rate for you, is a rate based on you, with allstate. because you know the right way to save. stop! save with drivewise and get a rate based on you. you're in good hands with allstate. 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inflation, the border and crime but we are electing a commander-in-chief this fall, how would a second trump administration confront the challenges around the globe from war and eastern europe to a sweltering middle east in ambitious china and unpredictable north korea, former ambassador to the european union gordon sondland makes the case for his former boss donald trump and he joins us now, welcome mr. ambassador, the former president says he could in the war between russia and ukraine quickly, how exactly would he do that and can he do it without ukraine ceding any territory to russia. >> it is very hard to presuppose what the negotiation would be but i do endorse his notion that had he been president wenzel linsky and putin was contemplating invading ukraine it would not have happened, he had a way of being very, very affable with the dictators and public but very tough on them in private as you know knowing him well he assumes the era of unpredictability and as a result the people don't want to test him. andy told putin in private don't think about going to ukraine because you're knocking alike what i do to you, i'm not sure what happened. trey: he has invaded the middle east, how could israel exist with thomas and has blood in the region and if you take on hamas and hezbollah and try to eradicate it are you prepared to take out iran what would a second trump administration look like in terms of middle east policy. >> as much as i hate to say it, hamas needs to be finished and i know those in the israeli military who are now pushing back against benjamin netanyahu government and saying things like it's impossible to eradicate hamas it's not impossible. in the strength of will and a continued campaign against them and part of the equation and there is no way to get around her. no one wants to say that. it breaks my heart to have to say that but it is true anyone is in existential threat to israel, when thomas is eliminated and gaza is governed by a coalition of moderate arab states with israel providing security, then it's time to change iran and iran needs the entire world, the entire western world to be aligned against it including our friends at the european union who continue to circumvent sanctions in business with iran and make it easy for the cash flow to continue which is what trump really created which is strangling his cash flow in the regimes cash flow at the end of his administration and biden turned the it right back on again. trey: speaking of cash president trump had tariffs on china how would a second trump administration counter china both militarily and in terms of their influence in other regions of the world and economically. >> i think more of the same he used tariffs as a real-time negotiating tactic with the europeans when i was serving in brussels and the threat of tariffs brought the europeans to the table on a whole host of economic and noneconomic issues because the tariffs were very fungible and they could be imposed very quickly and they would have an immediate effect, that's what brought people to the table for decades and they would discuss certain issues, whether was agriculture, car exports, you name it, tariffs works. >> politics is all about contrast, people like contrast, you've laid out the contrast or would a second trump administration would look like versus the status quo, gordon sondland thank you for joining us on a sunday night. coming up back gate single-handedly keeping the ethics committee busy but will matter to voters in his district, we talk to the man challenging him next, only on "sunday night in america". the cockroach. resilient creatures. where there is one, others aren't far behind. well that's horrifying. always scavenging... ortho home defense max indoor insect barrier. one application kills and prevents bugs for 365 days. nature is wild. your home doesn't have to be. ♪ that colonoscopy for getting screened ♪ ♪ is why i'm delaying ♪ ♪ i heard i had a choice ♪ ♪ 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you lose friends, the hours are long. it is the most thankless assignment but is important. members are picked on their investigator backgrounds and their propensity for fairness, i was assigned to the ethics committee by two different speakers and was replaced by john lee ratcliffe a formal federal prosecutor, the chairperson was susan brooks of former federal prosecutor, the current chairperson is a republican former prosecutor, the staff director was one of the most honest ethical people i've ever met, the investigators are apolitical, there are no cameras or committee hearings like those that look like professional wrestling matches. these are run by professionals who gather evidence and interview witnesses, gates has done what he usually does which is attack, he claims he's the most investigated man and all of washington, maybe that's because he's the most worthy of being investigated. after all most people don't have best friend serving times for trafficking young women. most people don't use venmo to pay, he is presumed and is it, a luxury he really affords others but fairness should never be reserved for just friends. the committee is gathering documents and witnesses included a reported interview of a young woman who said she was paid by gates for. >> and in the past they blame kevin mccarthy and it's wide matt gaetz work so hard to get rid of mccarthy last fall. but these investigations began before kevin mccarthy ever became speaker and now there is a new speaker, mike johnson. a man not gates praise for his character, ethics in christian beliefs in the investigation not only continues but they are expanded. new speaker, same not gates, more investigations. and yet he is still favored to win reelection, his challenger is a former navy officer and aviator and he joins us now. welcome, trump endorsed matt gaetz, he won overwhelmingly in the past been under similar clout, why are you running and what is different this time around? >> good evening and thank you, great to be with you. two things i can offer here, first and foremost i running to continue to answer our call to serve that i felt as a junior in high school in 1991 and applied for an appointment to the naval academy in dedicated my life for over 20 years. that is one part, the other is as you just stated the voters in district one deserve an alternative and i can bring the alternative, not just with my military service, all around the globe the person of honor, integrity and character as they walked around and knocked on doors, gone to events just since announcing our campaign and on april 26 the response has been overwhelming in the response being the ready for the alternative, the ready for someone to come in to move away from the chaos that was started i matt and the republican party in congress and the ready for an alternative option, someone that's going to represent them duly on the hill. trey: speaking to your part of florida, it's one of my wife's favorite places in the world, she absolutely loves your district, the people are wonderful, they seem to be fine having a congressman was almost constantly involved in controversy and notoriety, what makes you think this time he is vulnerable where in the past it's not like he was quiet previously, he's always been like this, what is different now do you think. >> the difference is time and the fact the last couple of years have gone and evolve the way that they have, when we meet with folks and i meet and speak with folks they will literally come and thank me for running this time and i don't know the prior candidates to challengers had that they are ready for an positive and energetic about it, i truly think it's going to make the differences time, there's so fed up and exhausted with the antics and that's all about self-promotion, constantly trying to get hits and on tv and podcast episodes. folks are over it. in the common sense approach and practical statesman approach. to the office. in gaetz said that's a reason he is investigating a brand-new speaker that he helped usher and now there are more investigations. in it couldn't possibly kevin mccarthy because it's now mike johnson and is still under investigation. >> i think you hit on it at the top and he's obligated to have done in instruction for so long, the allegations have to be credible in the house for continuing the investigation. >> thank you for your service to our country, we will be watching this race very closely and thank you for joining us on a sunday night. trey: still ahead, outrage crime in the border crisis collide again with deadly consequences. former texas land commissioner george p bush after the break on "sunday night in america". liberty mutual customized my car insurance and i saved hundreds. with all the money i saved i thought i'd buy stilts. being so tall definitely has its advantages. oh whoa. here you go, kiddo. thanks. hi honey ready to go? yup. there it is, there it is... ahhh...here we go. i 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porous border in our absurd asylum balls and took the life of a child in our country and nursing student and a young mom killed while she was out for a walk, a child can't even make it to her 14th birthday without being raped. a 12-year-old killed by two men who claim they were afraid of violence in their own countries, president biden says he can't, on pending cases which is strange because he does it all the time what he did say this. >> folks i'm not interested in playing politics of the border immigration i'm interested in fixing it. i'll say it again today i will work with anyone to solve these problems, that's my responsibility as president, that's our responsibility as americans. trey: he's been in office than many of you have been alive, he was vice president for eight years, president for four really just hasn't quite had the time to tackle this issue. he says he needs four more years, former president donald trump had this to say. >> another biden migrant was arrested for an innocent american woman rachel morin, 37 years old, mother of five, nice woman, if i was president he never would've been able to come in he never would've been able to come in. >> joining us former texas land commissioner george p bush, thank you for joining us, the border is a number one issue among many voters and encompasses national security and crime and drug abuse and respectful of the rule of law, what should be done at the border to prioritize the safety of americans. >> if we were in an emergency room you would triage the risk in front of us and that is taking care of and creating operational control of the border wall, right now we don't have that committee border patrol official you talk to speaks to the overwhelming statistics in the last three years during the biden administration of over 10 million encounters and an estimate of the million got a ways. if you just do the probability from a mathematical standpoint and you're going to have sad stories of tragedies that you personally recount and will continue unless we get operational control of the border. what a real president would do with the constitutional obligation of securing our country and our own citizen and investing in resources to complete the so-called trump wall and then more border patrol agents, getting rid of magna policies that continue to attract illegal immigration and bringing the fight to drug cartels who by the way profit not only on the illicit drug trade by human trafficking that is more lucrative than what they can transit, it is a cup located topic. trey: democrats are sure to complete if they had a bipartisan bill which former president trump next. that would've saved the lives of rachel morin at others. i don't know what other part of the bill is sure to bring that up during the debate insured to bring it up on the campaign trail, i can't think of what any part of the bill would've saved any of their lives. >> you had time in the so-called swamp and when you have a bill on important issues such as immigration tied to foreign aid it's going to get lost in the discussion of the debate, wasn't given the justice necessary to truly flush out a real deal that would secure our border and think longer term about creating an economic incentive for the right people to come to our country not allowing criminals to come in here perpetrate the violent crimes against her own citizens. secondly i would say this is election year politics for this president to sign an executive order granting essentially 550,000 and folks to have an amnesty is not the right way to create law. we do this through the congress and constitutionalist that i know you are and would agree with in the normal channels of the house and the senate and to make sure the right people are coming to the country in the easy to come here legally then rather illegally because the pressures are such anybody seeking to abuse are very generous asylum will do so. in noting that they can get a notice to appear, wait for three years, perpetrate crimes or country country to do nefarious acts, knowing that they will never see the light of day in a courtroom is no longer border state issue like my state of texas, this is becoming a national issue and as you rightfully stated his number one issue on the minds of voters. trey: before i let you go, gotta get you to help me understand this. i try to understand the other side of the issue. it makes us a better advocate will me understand what the other side is coming from. i do not understand the other side of the issue when it comes to british security and i don't understand the argument for having an insecure, unsecure border and as you travel and run for office before, have people made the case why am better off for having a border that is not secure. >> use the unstated reason because democrat want to get elected in reelected, they think being sympathetic to undocumented immigrants enter going to divide more political allegiance are dominantly hispanic in the data is showing that the opposite is true whether it is republicans in the state that run for state county and local offices or at the federal level would president trump achieving arguably majority support within the hispanic community, this political maneuvering has backfired this is been used to some success in the past whether the obama days and no longer the case, why would you lead bad politics and bad policy towards bad politics. in the going to find it on the ballot box, all the data is showing in indicating it's not the number one issue it's an issue further to the right away from biden and is going to take a really bad night for the democrats to realize that they need to secure the border and enforce existing law and the officials to do their jobs and let select das neck and back of the men and women in blue and enforce and bring accountability to criminals in our criminal courthouse throughout the country. trey: all of those sound like great ideas, george p 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(female vo) austedo xr can cause depression, suicidal thoughts, or actions in patients with huntington's disease. pay close attention to and call your doctor if you become depressed, have sudden changes in mood, or have suicidal thoughts. don't take if you have liver problems, are taking reserpine, tetrabenazine, or valbenazine. austedo xr may cause irregular or fast heartbeat, or abnormal movements. seek help for fever, stiff muscles, problems thinking, or sweating. common side effects include inflammation of the nose and throat, insomnia and sleepiness. ♪ as you go with austedo ♪ (male vo) ask your doctor for austedo xr. ♪ austedo xr ♪ >> welcome back to "sunday night in america," each week we enjoy hearing from you. tonight we start with nancy from new jersey. >> it is nancy from new jersey. and i was wondering if you trust the polling industry. >> well, i have trust issues in general, i meeting too cynical to answer, i few polls as moderately educated opinions, polls should be vigorously cross-examined, they had clinton beating trump, and john maguire beating bo bob good this week in virginia. polls do help us understand what so the minds of voters. most of us would be honest in our response there. reggie from louisiana asks, we all use the word political politics, what is your definition today. and how has that definition changed or not. >> politics means the affairs of the city or set of activities associated with making decisions and groups. like general safety, protection from adversaries, diffying up natural resources that is politics supposed to mean. as has word government. the truth is your sheriff is government, your district attorney is government. public school teachers are government. but yet the world has a negative connotation just like politics. at the core politics is about the affairs of a city and practice it denotes someone who is willing to do anything to stay in power. lastly caitlin from new hampshire wants to know. i am kathleen from new hampshire, i am wondering what is your favorite song and why. >> i love music, i can't pick one but i'll give you a few. if you have not already heard them. in no particular order. "stairway to heaven" by led zeppelin, wichita line man guy glen campbell, one by bono with husban band mac bandmates u2, o holy night, and comfortably numb by pink floyd with two guest guitar solos of all-time. courtesy of david gilmore. as for why the songs impact your mind and your heart and your soul. at the same time, i could keep going but they are telling me you asked for one and now i'm up to 5, i need to say good night. if you have a question, e-mail us or social media. thank you for spending part of your sunday with us, i hope you have a great week ahead, until next week you can find us on tray dowe trey gowdy podcast, good night from south carolin thank you for joining us, see you next week. ♪

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