York. Iranian state media is reporting there are no signs of life seen at the crash site of a helicopter that was carrying president Ebrahim Raisi and others. The news of reeses death comes nearly 15 hours after the helicopter crashed in a remote part of the country during dense fog. Rescue efforts have been hampered by bad weather and tough terrain. A number of other top officials, including the countrys Foreign Minister, were also on board. The chopper was heading back to the countrys capital when it reportedly went down. The crash comes at a fraught moment in the middle east, with the War Raging In Gaza and weeks after iran launched a drone and Missile Attack on israel in response to a Deadly Strike on its diplomatic compound in damascus, Hardliner Raisi became president in an historically uncompetitive election in 2021. Previously, the chief justice, he has overseen a period of intensified repression of dissent in a nation convulsed by Youth Led Protests against clerical rule. Again, if you are just now tuning in, Iranian State media is reporting there are no signs of life seen at the crash site of a helicopter that was carrying president ibrahim raisi and others. This news comes nearly 15 hours after that chopper was first reported to have crashed. For now, im ashleyw counties and l of states. Dont forget about the debate. To have been agreed to by the candidates cutting out the commission on president ial debates and cutting out Robert Kennedy jr. Its feeling like a 5050 election all over again. Joining us or to political political experts fox news conservative town hall contributed town hall. Com editor katie ballot and former dnc Deputy Press Secretary and strategist jose. Welcome to you both. Katie the polling looks encouraging in parts for trump but theres this lingering to vote for nikki haley so my question to you does trump need those votes to win or to build something resembling a mandate and is their plan to attract those reticent voters . It wouldnt hurt to have those voters thats for sure Donald Trumps in a position where he has most of his base completely locked up and he is Polling Demographics away from democrats. Joe biden is in a position where his coalitions are seeing a lot more fractures than republicans. I talked to a couple of nikki haley voters and they said they wouldnt vote for him but a lot of republicans will look at the contracts here with joe biden and donald trump and the fact that their Inflation Rate is 20 more expensive than they feel like the world is on fire and they will come home to the Republican Party Donald Trumps able to get those votes of black and voters in some states that arent necessarily in play right now that could be in a couple of months. Jose jose to katies Point Polling does indicate President Biden the struggling with constituencies that once seemed reliable. First evolved do you believe that in similar to what i asked katie, College Campus protesters are going to vote for them but they may stay home so does biden have an Enthusiasm Problem and is he is katie suggested fighting to keep traditionally reliable constituencies on board . Thanks for having me on. I think first and foremost we have to recognize and be very careful to not overreact to polls whether they are for you or against you. If we take ourselves back to 2016 when Hillary Clinton was winning the night before the election every single poll in america said she was going to be the next president of the United States and she wasnt. She lost so i would advise people to be very careful. That doesnt mean people should come out and make the case that im fighting for your future and im helping this economy even though im not done here. We know prices are still too high and the president recognizes that what he brought inflation down from 9 to 3 always going in the right direction. He you have a point, point to the other guy. He is consumed by his past but he doesnt care about you. He cares about his case any and he cares about his legal fees. I will let you jump in. I dont think we are going to see a lot of lying about inflation. My colleague on the other side of the aisle to said inflation joe biden to get down to and from 9 to what is now. When joe biden came into office it was 1. 4 cents and i went to 9 . You will see a lot of changing of the narrative and the fudging of the facts on the issues. Let me say this about politics in general. I wish i sold polygraph machines. Oftentimes those are fact free zones but i do want to get into the debates katie. Ill start with you and then jose i will ask you. Whether the country that could split an ativan land something on mars could come up with a constructive debate structure. Im not sure we have one so what do you think of the two debates, one is in like a week and another one later on in the fall. I mean how would you use structure a debate worthy of a country like ours . Katie you go first and then you jose. The first debate is at the end of june so you have a month for the first one. Its on traditionally very early ahead of the republican and Democratic Convention in july and august so thats interesting. I would structure and both candidates get there respectfully in a conversation with each other and there is an option from the moderator and last questions for the republican side. I think he will be interesting to see them talk about these issues. Donald trump did well against Hillary Clinton in 2016 and its will top joe biden the first time in 2020. It will set expectations low for joe biden which is probably a mistake because if you set the bar on the ground is going to step right over it. Let me add this. Maybe katie, i agree with katie and joking aside i do think its important theres a debate. Job Biden Joe Biden is too old, im happy that the ball is in donald trump scored as they say. I do like that they will each others microphones when each one are speaking bears for there wont be a shouting match. Looking historically at past elections we know all the debates dont move the needle all that much when it comes to voters. I do think its important and i think they wont make a whole lot of difference come november. Before he let it go i have to get you both to react. Every now and again something happens that makes me miss the British Monarchy. Happen last night during an Oversight Committee markup. People said you miss congress, i miss the British Monarchy after i watched legislators talk about fake eyelashes and physiques. Its just not worthy of a nation like ours. Katie, number one why did they do it in jose i will get you to weigh in to. Dont you think, surely voters dont want that, do they visit ad homonym personal insults . I will let you take this with last nights oversight hearing. Do you know what we are here for . That is absolutely unacceptable. How dare you. Are your feelings hurt . Baby girl. Dont even play. Baby girl . Its so embarrassing and when you think of congress you thank you are sending people there who have respect for the process and respect for the position when you start hearing about eyelashes and peoples body types and screaming when you are supposed to be dealing with this serious contempt of Congress Charges for the Attorney General thats debasing an undignified and not something regular americans would like to see from their representatives. Jose out that you agree that we can do better. Thats exactly right. Its no surprise that congress has the lowest Approval Rating year after year. It seems to me they forget who they are here to serve. They are here to serve the american people. I can also tell you its also not persuasive. It may be gratifying for a small part of the respective bases but it is not persuasive. I just think we are better than that. But you all showed remarkable civility to one another so you all are disqualified from congress but you are welcome to come back anytime you want to join me on a sunday night. Im fine with that. All right thank you all right thank you appeared coming of prison terms former lawyers a lawyers a star witness for the prosecution. How did Michael Conforto handhold of . That and more afte im a bird stuck in larry birds attic. And im goin cuckoo. Hmm. You may be a legend on the court but youre an amateur up here. So get allstate. Save money and be protected from mayhem. Like me. psst psst ahhh with flonase, allergies dont have to be scary. Spray Flonase Sensimist daily for nondrowsy long lasting relief in a scent free, gentle mist. Flonase all good. Also, try our Allergy Headache and nighttime pills. You cant leave without cuddles. 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Cohen called for more baggage than an airline. Hes a convicted. As a general rule does not make good witnesses. Cohen is openly biased against rome. He wants to see trump in prison and about revenge. Cohen makes money off of this prosecution is animosity is palpable. He said he had nothing incriminating on trump. Those are called prior inconsistent statements and they arent endearing qualities for a crucial witness in the eyes of the jury when it comes to credibility. Virtually no one will believe Michael Cohen Beyond A Reasonable Doubt that the question is whether the jury have to believe cohen to convict or is there enough corroboration in accepting his mendacity . Joining us is former prosecutor alex lyttle. Alex, welcome. Do you think cohen helped to calm you could literally feel the bias through his testimony. I dont know that i have ever seen a witness, a government witness without much palpable bias. Its a difficult situation produces sometimes when the prosecution is to put away the sun. They can do the case without Michael Cohens testimony but his baggage is and it makes their case looked miserable. I think they tried to put on as much corroboration and they stuck to the documents and plotted through them one at a time hoping they would be a paper trail to make the jury believed what he was saying was true. True or false he is a biased witness and he has all sorts of problems with inconsistent statement. Its a Defense Attorney Stream to crossexamine someone like him but theres a documentation that backs up what he is saying. A classic case and the jury determines the credibility of the witness and it will depend on the way he performed. Even if the jury does believe that the former president and Stormy Daniels had an intimate relationship does that ipso facto yield a guilty verdict . In other words could they believe her testimony still conclude that no crime was committed . Oh sure absolutely. They couldnt believe many parts of this case and thats why his testimony is important. They have to show theres an intent to falsify records and thats a small piece of the story thats been told over these weeks about the trial ultimately the only colonel piece whether this alleged affair and the coverup of the affair and the actual documents were manipulated for that purpose and also the documents were done in a manner to protect their Reelection Campaign at the time. Almost all witnesses at least in my experience are capable of telling the truth at some point in almost all are capable of not telling pictures. Even defendant to testify at least get their names right when they are introduced to the jury so you mentioned, you mentioned the jury can accept a lot of that and still not convict. What do they have to accept from Michael Cohen to find president the former president guilty Beyond A Reasonable Doubt . They have to believe that cohen let the former president know the specifics of what he was doing with a particular recordkeeping of how these payments were going to be documented. If they dont believe that i dont think theres a good direct evidence the former president knew that those false statements were being made within the organization. I want us to listen. Michael cohen is a lawyer but he had a lawyer. Listen to his former lawyer and ill ask you a question. Spend over and over again 10 to 20 times i swear to god i dont have anything on donald trump and when we got into a discussion Stormy Daniels nba he said specifically and i crossexamine him on this, this was my idea. Not sure i want my lawyer doing a whole lot of interviews if you are Defense Council who if anyone would you walk to call . Are you confident enough right now that there is a reasonable doubt or would you put up a defense case and if so who and how . I would absolutely put on defense case but i think cohens to the extent he can testify about the statements would be one of them. Adults may a lot of Times Defense lawyers or prosecutors are confident in our case but we believe everybody thinks the same way we do. If you do enough to rouse you learn to experience, the jury has a different view so yes you may thank you slaughtered them on the cross exam but to drive that home with additional witnesses which i think we will do is the proper strategic call. I remember judge is used to tell me that i had enough and i could stop. Give me a new trial if you are wrong and if it comes back not guilty the interest no, i cant say you have to keep going until really until the jury says look, we get it. Please stop. Alex lyttle thank you for your insight. Thank you. Take care. Two things jeopardize our Justice System by prosecutors of nebraska congressman known for defending persecuted christians. That was his work in congress. The fbi placed a phonecall during an investigation to the california fundraiser and reported it. The fbi weighted months and months to ask jeff about that conversation. I do remember what i said last week that the fbi expected jet too low recall with precision the conversation from half a year earlier. Of course he didnt remember the details. They recorded in the call and they knew what was said and by whom. They wanted him to fail their memory test that they could put a political pelt on the wall. The fbi botched the dylan background check, mishandled the usa gymnastic Sexual Assault case, selling his own reputation with Crossfire Hurricane but they get really excited going after congressman. He was tried in california although no interview took place there. They did it because its easier Church Convict A Republican In California but that conviction was overturned in doj wait until the statute of limitations had run in nebraska so they could try him in washington d. C. Im very familiar with that d. C. Interview. I was there for it. There never would have been an interview in d. C. Except for two facts, federal prosecutors made patently false student statements in congress very much wanted to help the investigation. He had nothing to hide. He had done nothing wrong and he believed it was civic duty to cooperate. In other words he trusted federal prosecutors and fbi agents and took them at their word. That proved to be a fatal mistake. So now even though his career was gone in his life savings depleted he served probation and pay paid the fine. Doj is not satisfied. They lost on appeal and they are big to fit vindictiveness is driving them to punish him all over again for joining this is his attorney glenn summers. Welcome, glenn. Let me summarize the case for the fbi federal prosecutors can lie to you but you cannot miss recollects fact from a phonecall six months ago. Thats my summary of it. You know. Good evening to you and its great to be on the show. Thank you for having me. You summarize the case perfectly for the evidence is undisputed that Congressman Fortenberry had no knowledge of Illegal Campaign contributions. They placed a couple of phonecalls and basically set him up. At the interviews they deliberately set him up for a false statement case. The whole case was about he was very forthcoming about the fundraiser, what happened to the people involved. This case now is about one tiny characterization of what occurred on that phonecall. That one little detail and let me be clear the phonecall that they placed to him that they recorded occurred nine months before the first interview and almost a year before the real interview in washington d. C. They of course knew all of the facts. No one was misled by Congressman Fortenberry. This was a setup from start to finish in the real question now is having forced him to resign having forced him to basically his entire life savings defending himself on an improper prosecution in los angeles, having served his probationary sentence why are they doing this all over again . It makes absolute innocence when you look at the normal standards for prosecutorial discretion. Why on earth would they prosecute this man a second time as again while this case was up on appeal. He served his probationary sentence. He fulfilled all of the terms of his sentence and we have to keep in mind at the conclusion of the first trial the Federal District judge who heard all of the evidence declined the government requests for a custodial sentence. They refuse to the judge refused to put Congressman Fortenberry in jail. Why . He found the evidence was overwhelming that Congressman Fortenberry and i quote the federal judge was an exceptional character and the judge found all of the witnesses including the governments witnesses said that he was a man of exceptional character and its extraordinary truthfulness of the great irony of this case is that fellow congressmen and in particular a democrat from california from the bay area were lined up and testified on his behalf. Others were lined up prepared to that he was one of the most honorable men and in all of washington and in all of congress did we have undisputed testimony that we have one of the most truthful, honest, good men in congress and he is the person who is now being prosecuted twice for making false statements to the fbi hinted the doj. Makes no sense tray. This is a time when the world has been turned upside down and you wonder whats going on. Im afraid i know glenn its and prosecutors and being a prosecutor was my favorite job. Theres nothing more beautiful than pursuing justice and theres nothing than teeing and trying to further your own career at the expense of someone everyone would have told you what anna as you said in everyone that worked for fortenberry was defending christians and the follower of the rules. He wait until the Trump Administration without end to interview him and then they wait until the Trump Administration was out and gone before they indicted him and this is an outrage. You and i will be back on. I dont know when the trial date is that we are going to follow this case and we may be the only two people in the world who are following up that we will follow it together. Thank you for following this because of the tragedy of vast tragedy of justice and makes you wonder where the people of the doj are and how we are allowing Something Like this to happen. This doj is out of control and its a ship without a captain right now. Of all the things that they take a pass on to go after someone like Jeff Fortenberry is truly staggering. Thank you so much for joining us on this sunday night. Thank you again. Take care. Coming up israeli plunging deeper into gaza as the Biden Administration move forward on 1 billion worth of new weapons for the jewish state. Former ambassador to the u. S. Lets get the rest of these plants in. Organic soil from miraclegro has grown me the best garden i have ever had. Good soil, and you get good results. This soil will blow you away. Its the Martha Stewart of soil. The allnew tempurpedic Adapt Mattress was designed to help make aches and pains a thing of the past. Because only tempurmaterial eases your Pressure Points in a way no other mattress can. For a limited time, save up to 500 on select tempurpedic Adjustable Mattress sets. Believe it or not baby. You could earn your. Masters. For under 11 thousand masters degree for under 11k in less than a year. 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He is a Senior Fellow at the foundation for defense of democracies. Behnam ben, thank you so much for talking to us about this. Youre really an expert when it comes to this area and hopefully you can tell us your thoughts on the situation as a whole just right out of the gate here. Sure. Its my pleasure. Look, this is, quite, busy Breaking News day for the government of the Islamic Republic. Because it wasnt just iranian president raisi, but several other officials in the helicopter as well, including irans current Foreign Minister amirabdollahian, who had joined president raisi on the trip to azerbaijan to inaugurate their third joint dam between baku and tehran, on the border there. On the way back, whats been reported at least through official sources in iran, is that dense fog, impeded, the choppers path. And in the relatively mountainous terrain of irans East Azerbaijan province, there was a quote unquote, hard landing which now looks essentially to be a crash. You even have, semiofficial iranian government sources on twitter showing, you know, the Drone Rescue Team trying to identify signs of life. And they dont see any, someone like raisi in irans political apparatus is replaceable. The iranian presidency is not at all like the presidency in france or the presidency in america, or the Prime Ministership in some other countries. He carries out, implements, and executes policies that do come from above. Nonetheless, it was one of you could say the most, if not one of one of the most hardline administrations in the history of the government of the Islamic Republic and raisi oversaw one of the most sanctioned cabinets in the history of the government of the Islamic Republic, if indeed , as its now looking, the first five first Vice President Mohammad Mokhber does replace him. He too is sanctioned by the United States of america. So there is an Ultra Hardline Elite at the helm that just got somewhat smaller, you say that he was sanctioned by america. How does this affect the relationship . I mean, if there is a relationship, you know, how does this affect us with iran . Well, you know, now, i think its a time for moral clarity, Ebrahim Raisi is someone who has failed upwards in his career in the government of the Islamic Republic. He was 29 years old, when he sat on this thing called the Death Commission at the end of the iraniraq war in the 1980s, where he implemented fatwas that basically were designed to provide legal cover to basically kill Political Prisoners. Thousands of Political Prisoners died at this mans hand. This man was at the judiciary in 2019, if im not mistaken, when iran witnessed massive nationwide protest that led to the government killing 1500 protesters in the course of several weeks, this man has had blood on his hands for many, many years and he has been promoted, as i mentioned, failing upwards into more important political positions in the government of the Islamic Republic. Not because of his competence, not because of his capability, but because of his loyalty and zeal, and for purposes of us iran relations. As you know, the iranian president doesnt set Foreign Policy that comes from other institutions, other sources. So its highly likely that the regime is going to essentially remain on the same antiamerican, antiisrael, antistatus quo course as it was before. I mean, how long would Something Like this take, as far as a replacement for him . I know we were talking to dan hoffman earlier and, you know, its kind of up in the air. You dont really know, but like we said, Iranian State media, theyre reporting that the, Foreign Minister was also on that chopper. But you say that all these people are essentially just answering to the Supreme Leader. So what . I mean, what whats their point in having all of these positions if they just have to answer to that one person . Well, indeed, theres no shortage of parallelism, dualism, and indeed redundancy in the iranian system. Again, this is not at all a Democratic Political system. It is an authoritarian political system where irans current Supreme Leader, and thats a title meant to be taken quite literally, is the middle east longest serving autocrat to date. Hes lived longer than many of his political rivals, whom he has killed or exiled or put into jail. And he is the one who has had ultimate power in that country without much accountability. And when talking about that person, that Supreme Leader, its important to note hes an octogenarian. Last month, he turned 85 years old. Lots of irans political and religious elite are quite old. And indeed, one reason why race would matter is because he was assumed by many independent and foreign experts to be on the short list to replace irans current 85 year old Supreme Leader should that individual die. But now, with the highly likely passing of Ebrahim Raisi, that shortlist just got a lot shorter and is likely to include the Supreme Leader of iran, son mojtaba khamenei. You know, i have a question as far as gaza and whats happening in gaza and with israel, does this affect that situation in that part of the middle east at all . I dont believe so. But i will say this , you know, again, i dont believe so because the presidency doesnt set Foreign Policy. He merely implements it. He does. A lot of the presidency is in charge of the stylistic side, not the substantive side of iranian Foreign Policy. Theres a whole lot more that he does control and can impact, both with laws, regulation, plans and even speeches on the economic and social front versus the Foreign Policy front, where thats really the purview of others. But nonetheless, when it comes to irans antiisrael and antiamerican disposition, this is stuff that is preset. But this regime, because we know its so weak at home sometimes when its super weak at home, it likes to feign strength or project strength abroad. So its no shock in my mind that the region is on high alert, not just israel and the arab world. Based on the post october seventh middle east, but because theyre watching and waiting to see how this kleptocratic regime in iran might respond. And if they try to flex their muscles publicly at a time when they know theyre looking at home. And as far as on the home front, on american soil, you know, how could this affect us . You know, i asked this question earlier for the Average American sitting at home watching this, you know, in Middle America at 1240 on a monday morning, i mean, why should this matter to them . Essentially, this should matter because there is a massive chasm inside iran. And that chasm is not among the Musical Chairs that youre about to see on tv. When and if raisi is replaced. The massive chasm is between state and society. One reason why youve had rolling coverage all day is because the government and iran has not officially confirmed rices death, just like they were very slow to report on the chopper being down and very slow to report on the rescue teams to come and find him. I dont mean i dont mean to interrupt you, but before you finish with that, you say they were slow to get to that. Why is that . Are they just trying to cover everything up or do they just not want anybody to know . I think one, one in very shorthand answer is, you know, there were a lot of problematic conditions, a lot of fog, and they were generally unprepared. But be as they are, trying to cover everything up. And the reason theyre trying to cover everything up is the vast majority of the population inside that country opposes them. And thats what matters for the Average American. Thats what matters to the average voter, because the middle east, as you know, is a quite precarious place. And ironically, iran that has one of the most antiamerican governments has one of the most proamerican populations. So now is the time for moral clarity and strategic clarity, for a Renewed American Policy Of Pressure against the regime and support for the people in that country. No more of this kind of two step private diplomacy that the Biden Administration has been engaging in. No more relaxing sanctions for the governments of the Islamic Republic to continue to generate revenue that supports its terrorist apparatus, that threatens americans, that threatens coalition forces, that threatens americas friends and partners and allies in the region like israel, like the moderate arab states. Now is the time for moral clarity and for a rehaul. Sadly i dont think the Biden Administration will be doing that. What do you think the Biden Administration is doing right now with this news coming out . Well, most unfortunately, just a few days before this news coming out, there was a story, i believe, in axios talking about the administration again, looking to try to use private diplomacy with regional intermediaries to try to talk about, you know, Tamping Down Prospects for regional escalation. The problem with this approach is that a it hasnt yielded fruit in the past, and b, every time you go to a government, which is the government, like the one that is in iran, which is the worlds foremost State Sponsor of terrorism, that chants death to israel, death to america. And these guys indeed mean what they say. And theyve spent the countrys National Treasure and resources towards acting on what they have been saying for so long. They will take you for a ride. Theyve taken america to the cleaners on the nuclear deal. Well, in the past, under the Obama Administration and indeed now theyre benefiting from this Laxed American Posture towards iran, particularly with the unenforced oil sanctions, which gives this Regime Revenue to do all the bad things it does in the middle east, as well as the repression of its own population at home, and the approach by the Biden Administration of trying to calm them down or reach out and try to feign friendship or try to reach out a hand of friendship here, is that it ends up projecting weakness and, ironically, will underwrite the next cycle of escalation that neither us nor our partners in the region can afford. Well, ben and ben, thank you so much for all of your insight, on this, this is just a breaking story. Obviously, this has been unfolding over the course of several hours, but were just now hearing from Iranian State media that theres no there theres no sign of life with this chopper that went down. So we do appreciate you staying up late with us early this morning on monday morning. We do appreciate your time. Again, if youre just now joining us, Iranian State media is reporting president Ibrahim Raeesi and other top officials have been found dead after their helicopter crashed sunday morning. Keep in mind this news comes nearly 15 hours after the chopper was first reported to have crashed and Rescue Efforts. They were hampered by bad weather and tough terrain and of course, Fox News Channel will stick with this breaking story all night welcome back to sunday night in america. Dr. Billy graham was the most influential minister of my lifetime but his revivals were not for the elegance and simplicity of the message and the difficulty and the challenge. Ck chesterton may have said it best its not that christianity thats been tried and found wanting its that christianity is hard in their front tried. Turn the other cheek for those who persecute you love your enemy no political adviser on earth would get that device. The most significant person to ever walk the earth did so what is the role of christians in the political process and what is the future of the church . Was christianity supposed to be popular . Joining us is the presidency of the Billy Graham Evangelistic Association reverend Franklin Graham. Welcome to use sir. Its wonderful to see you again. Your father is being honored in a private citizen who never held Political Office and now has a statue in Statuary Hall. He struck me as a very modest man. What would his reaction to this the . Trey hed be a little uncomfortably because he wouldnt want the attention to be drawn to him. He would want the attention to go to the one that my father served and that was the. Hed want all the attention to go to him. Reverend when i think of your father i also think of your mother because i know so many people that were impacted by her during the course of her life so she may not have a statue in Statuary Hall that to me she is right there beside your father at least in my mind. She is in the hall with my father. My father received a, excuse me the congressional gold medal. The artist of the statue at the foot of the statue is the congressional gold medal with my mothers face so its right there at my fathers feet. And so the open bible, what i like about the statue is my father standing there with an open bible in his hand on the scriptures and the scripture on the open bible im not sure if it was engraved but i know the reference was the bible says god forbid that glory saving the cross of our Lord Jesus Christ by whom the world is crucified under me and i into the world and that was the last message my father wanted to preach but he was never able to preach it so the artist put that on the open bible and then on the side of the pedestal is a cross with johns 3 16. So loved the world that he gave his own begotten son that whoever should believe in him should not perish but have everlasting life and on the other side of the Pedestal John 14 6 where jesus said i am the way. The truth and the life no man comes to the father but by me. On the back of the pedestal is what is on my fathers gravestone. I didnt want there to be an argument after his death among us children so i thought im just going to ask my father what he wants on his gravestone. We will type it out and he can sign it. We would just put that in the file so when he passes away if theres any argument we can pull it out and say here is what daddy wanted. He just wanted. She. She of the gospel of jesus christ. Thats all it is. Thats what he wanted. What a humble man and speaking of humble thats one of the few things that described himself as being humble. Im not going to get into with you because i will lose Reverend Graham but the story of the Good Samaritan has many layers but one of those layers could be help comes from unexpected sources. Those who should help us dont and those who should pass us by stop and they help. Its hard to see much of god at least for me in the political environment and its hard for many to see in politics so how do we navigate the two . Id be interested in government and politics but more just and following the teachings of. The apostle paul said im not ashamed of the gospel force the power of god and the salvation. I believe politicians that are christians should live their faith. I dont think just because you going to congress or whatever that you check your religion at the door. You take it with you and i think we need Men And Women in the halls of government who lived out what they believe. Of course we have seen some of the problems this week with some of the namecalling back and forth among congresspeople and kind of that kind of remarks. Its just discouraging but we need more christians taking a stand and just saying this is what god have to say. Men are not afraid to and of course i was with speaker johnson i appreciate him so very much. The little bit of time i with him hes a man of deep faith and he is a tough job that i wouldnt want for all the tea in china but they their men like him who are willing to take a stand. Hes an authentically spurge a person and for all the members of congress at least they will have to walk by one of the most modest humble man and had all the reason the world to be full of himself. Billy graham one of the most famous man to ever walk the earth and he had a modesty and humility about himself and we could all learn from that. Reverend Franklin Graham thank you for joining us on this sunday night. Thank you trey. God bless you sir. God bless you too. When we say itll be on time, they expect it to be on time. Turn shipping to your advantage. Keep those expectations with reliable ground shipping. Thanks brandon. With usps ground advantage®. When life spells heartburn. How do you spell relief . Rolaids rolaids dualactive formula begins to neutralize acid on contact. Rolaids spells relief. 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Welcome back to sunday night in america, hes Weekend Enjoy Hearing from you via email as is rated we love hearing what is on your mind command this week will look to the past. The president the future, starting with this question to mckay tray of Northern Virginia and the question i have for you, trey gowdy, as well as biggest difference between Todays Society and unite were young. I was a two things, the instant access to information and the unreliability of the institutions that unite once relied upon a goodbye spent a lot of time reading newspapers an Encyclopedia Putting in Readers Digest to come in the mail no information is everywhere all of the time and sometimes reliable and sometimes not and we figured out how to monetize that information by making the folks think the world is on fire every hour of every day and plus the sanctuaries of yesteryear are gone is not always happy a school but i was never scared of being killed. And then it did not always want to go to church but was out of braided being shot or assaulted by an adult movies were treat that reminder of Mass Shootings and it just seems that we cannot rely upon institutions or that safety the you and i grew up with annexes a question from john. Trey gowdy this is john from massachusetts i wonder what historical Event Interest you the ball. I would be a lot but lets start with the Battle Of Vermont and the soldiers going to battle they cannot went and where they could not afford to lose and so what motivates people, to willingly go to their own deaths, for i higher purpose, what is important enough to know ahead of time from that you will die from the cause but not only do still go, you cannot wait to go i would also be interested in observing how someone big and off hitler could ever rise to power and inhabited my parents lifetime and so it was not ancient history. How can a country a population, embrace the systematic elimination of people read and this is staggering to us perhaps to them as well and yet it happening Leslie Question from nathan. Im nathan from canada my question for you, trey gowdy, whats the biggest uncheck the box left on your bucket list. Trey two years ago i couldve answer the question, quickly and i would even take my wife to israel so the bible she read to stanley good come to life and thankfully, we were able to go so i got to check that off. And beyond that, done things that i never dreamed i would ever do the president to play Augustine National met bono and Martha Mccalla and dana perino, and i watched her kids grow up and surprised every Single School teacher that i ever had. Meet amazing friendships and to me, there no unchecked boxes. Im going to be able to afford a small little place near a quiet beach, from a light because she loves Walking On The Beach at sunset. That would require me winning the library so i am content. All of the boxes have been checked in him a question email us at trey gowdy popstar, more, find is on my net trey gowdy american think you for Spinning Part of your sunday with us and i hope you have a great week ahead a good night from South Carolina news alert. Im ashley strohmier, live in new york. Iranian state media