The wall street Journal Editorial Board said this will be a Campaign Carnival that rotates between courtrooms, rallies around the prosecution of a former president that they write is able to convince most americans that this rather, the courts have been unable to convince most americans that these indictments are just brought. Theres not broad acceptance of that across the board. The Wall Street Journal saying unless you have that broad acceptance that that there was no other chance for these indictments, that could present a combination that could be difficult and dangerous months ahead. Were going to talk to the former Vice President , mike pence, a crucial player in everything that has unfolded in many ways on the Campaign Trail and also back during the president presidency. Jonathan turley says this case is free speech killing and john yoo who calls the charges a stretch. Lets go to david spunt live with the very latest on all of this and what to expect tomorrow at the just its the department. David . A little more than 24 hours from now, martha, the former president will be inside a courtroom for his arraignment here in washington d. C. , just feet from the u. S. Capitol. You can see the Capitol Building when you walk out. He will be blocks from his former residence at the white house. That will happen tomorrow afternoon at 4 00 p. M. Today he is taking the indictment news and running with it. Thanking millions on truth social, his Media Platform Saying thank you to everyone. Ive never had so much support on anything. Before the 45page indictment saying that trump used Election Fraud to get officials to subvert legitimate results and change electoral votes. Jack smith, the special counsel says trump organized fraudulent states of electors in seven states, arizona, georgia, admonish, nevada, new mexico, pennsylvania and wisconsin and trump attempted to enlist the president to use his role at the January 6th Certification Proceeding to fraudulently alter Election Results. Since the attack on our capitol, the Department Of Justice has remained committed to ensuring accountability for those criminally responsible for what happened that day. This case has brought consistent with that commitment. Our investigation of other individuals continues. Trumps legal team making the indictment about free speech. Its an astounding document. The first time in American History, a former president is being prosecuted by a political opponent who wields the power of the criminal Justice System for what he believed in and the policies and the political speech that he carried out as president. The indictment reads that former President Trump was entitled like any american to question his loss, to question the Election Results where jack smith says that trump broke the law is when he tried to subvert the outcome of the election and change votes. Martha . Martha david, thank you. Lets bring in jonathan turley, Fox News Contributor and constitutional attorney and john yoo, Law Professor at the university of california berkeley. Great to have you with us. Were on the day in between here. Yesterday we digested this indictment. Tomorrow the former president will be indicted. Jonathan turley, as you look at this, sort of 24 hours later, what really sinks in to you about the dots that have to be connected for potential jurors to prove a crime in this indictment . Well, martha, the indictment will face some fairly strong constitutional head winds. As a threshold matter when it is introduced in to court. Theres serious First Amendment concerns here. What is most striking about the indictment is the lack of any limiting principal in what the government is saying. It admits that false statements are protected, including in elections. The Supreme Court said that in a case called alvarez. They had a politician that knowingly lied and the court said they were protected statements. The Department Of Justice acknowledges that you make false statements but trump cant because he was told that they were false. Well, you know, he had a lot of people that were saying that these claims were false. I was among them. He didnt listen to those voices. He listened to a smaller number of lawyers that said that the election was stolen and he had these options to take. If you start to criminalize issues like that, you find yourself on a Slippery Slope where the Department Of Justice can arrest politicians for not accepting what we deem the evident truth. Martha we all remember back to the al gore situation, Hillary Clinton at one point. Several points, actually, said that paraphrasing here, but that President Trump knows that hes not a legitimate president , raising sort of similar issues. John yoo, one of the other questions that is raised here when you read through this is the proposal of an alternate slate of electors. You know, contacting people and having them be the electors rather than the electors that were chosen initially. Is that part of this indictment potentially criminal activity in your opinion . We should realize this may be the most important criminal trial ever brought by the federal government in the history of the country to accuse a former president of trying to defraud the government, trying to obstruct congressional proceedings, trying to take away the civil rights of the voters in the country. What is disappointing as a former Department Attorney is how shaky the grounds are that this prosecutor is using to make those claims. One of them is, as you pointed out, martha, the appoint meant of alternate slates of electors. Some of these people did it because they thought that the actual electoral votes i agree, i didnt think there was fraud. But other people thought that they might be thrown out by courts. So they thought there was nothing wrong with appointing alternate slates of electors. They did it in good faith. They werent trying to commit any kind of thats the real problem here. The special counsel is trying to bring charges for matters which people in good faith might have been taking taking advantage of what they thought were legitimate constitutional and political routes to challenge the election rather than engaged in defrauding the government or stopping congress illegally from counting the electoral votes. Martha jonathan, very quickly. Do you think this trial takes place before the election . No, i think the good money is on the may date for the florida trial. Even that i think is questionable. They just put in a superseding indictment, added a party. I think the trump people can say this is now a didnt case. You should give us a different trial date. Its going to be tough. This guys dance card is filling up fast. Martha thanks, gentlemen. Great to have you. Thank you. Great to have you both. Mike pence obviously a very central figure in the election case against President Trump. He was referenced dozens of times in part because of detailed notes that he was taking while all of this was unfolding when he was Vice President. He shared those notes with the investigation. The gop president ial candidate which he is now as well, is taking on his former boss for the nomination and in this interview next. [bones cracking] tense music one aleve works all day so i can keep working my magic. Just one aleve. 12 hours of uninterrupted pain relief. Aleve. Who do you take it for . Limu emu doug what do we always say, son . Liberty mutual customizes your car insurance. 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Thanks for joining us. Thanks for having me on, martha. Martha obviously when we have spoken in recent weeks, its about the issues of the campaign. Obviously this is a Big Story Yesterday and you have been obviously involved in it. Yesterday you said that youd have more to say about the indictment when you had a chance to review it. What do you say about it today now that youve had that opportunity, sir . Well, martha, let me say january 20th, 2017, i took an oath to support and defend the constitution. A promise i made to the American People and also ended with a prayer, so help me god. All four years all the way up to january 6, i kept my promise that i made to almighty god and to the American People. I think yesterdays indictment is will stand either on its own merits or it will fall. I cant speak to the legal arguments behind it. The American People deserve to know that on that day president asked me to choose between him and the constitution. I choose the constitution. I always will. I want the American People to know as i stand for the republican nomination for president of the United States that ill keep faith with the constitution. I do believe that while theres been weaponization at the Justice Department and we lived through it through the trumppence years, that at the end of the day, history will hold donald trump accountable for his reckless words and actions on that day. Ill always stand by the truth of that. Make sure the American People know why i did what i did, martha. I had no right to overturn the election. Despite the fact that President Trump has continued to insist that over the last 2 1 2 years, i want people to know that i stood strong on the constitution that day by gods grace and i always will. Martha you may have heard his attorneys last night saying that this is a free speech discussion. Thats all it was. All they asked you to do was to just take a pause that day. John eastman emailed your Legal Counsel stating i implore you to consider one more relatively minor violation of the electoral count act and adjourn for ten days to allow a full Forensic Audit of the massive amount of illegal activity that has occurred here. They said all you needed to do was take a pause. What do you say to that . I say that is completely false and contrary to American History, to our constitution and to the laws of this country. I never considered it, martha. The first time i heard speculation that as Vice President that i had authority to overturn the election by rejecting votes, i frankly dismissed it out of hand. The founders of this country had just won a war of independence against a king. I was confident as a student of American History that those founders would have never vested the Vice President or anyone else with unilateral authority to decide what Electoral College votes to count and which not to count. I was clear on that i was clear with President Trump throughout all the way up to the morning of january 6. Lets be clear on this point. It wasnt that they asked for a pause. The president specifically asked me in his gaggle of Crack Pot Lawyers asked me to literally reject votes, which would have resulted in the issue of being turned over to the House Of Representatives and literally chaos would have ensued. So martha, people can read the indictment. Frankly, ive said before, i hope that it not come to this point. I dont know if the government can meet the burden of proof beyond reasonable doubt for criminal charges. But the American People deserve to know that President Trump and his advisers didnt just ask me to pause. They asked me to reject votes, return votes. Essentially overturn the election. I rejected that out of hand and i did my duty that day. Martha you say the criminal process is separate. Put yourself on that jury for just a moment. If you were on the jury, would you say that this defendant, the former president had committed a crime that day . Do you believe it rises to the level of a crime . You know, martha, i dont know. Honestly, i dont know the full case that the government has. You know, ive said on your network many times that, you know, i dont know if taking bad advice from lawyers is a crime. You know, i would leave that legal process. Frankly, the profound issues about the First Amendment to the courts to sort that out. I think its important that the American People know what happened in the days before january 6. President trump demanded that i use my authority as Vice President presiding over the Electoral College to essentially overturn the election by returning or literally rejecting votes. I had no authority to do that. Frankly, martha, it seems that some of the argument i hear coming from his lawyers is something of a concession that he may have gotten bad advice. That he was just taking advice from his attorneys. You know, i know i did the right thing that day. Ill always stand by it. It was a tragic day. Again, by gods grace, with my family at my side, with my key advisers at our side and with the courageous work of law enforcement, we quelled the violence, Reconvened The Congress and completed our work. The only job the constitution gives the Vice President of the United States in that role is to preside over a Joint Session Of Congress where the Electoral College votes that are certified by the states are opened and counted. The constitution, martha, says that they shall be opened and they shall be counted. The electoral couldnt act adopted more than 150 years ago also specifies the amount of time and the procedure. I was going to make sure that we heard any objections and we heard any evidence that people wanted to bring forward. 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Martha back now with more of my interview a short time ago with former Vice President , mike pence. Watch. You know, sir, i wonder what you think about this number. Because it looks like most of the Republican Voters are not in that camp. It says 71 believe that republicans need to stand behind trump. This is the most recent brand new New York Times poll. Only 22 of republicans say they dont need to stand behind trump. What do you make of those numbers . Well, i think thats a reflection of the disastrous presidency of joe biden. Look, joe biden is weakened this country home and abroad. I just gave a speech here. Biden is saying that bidenomics is working. Inflation has gone up 16. 6 . Eggs cost more than 50 more than the day we left office. I totally understand how people when asked in a generic question who should we stand behind, they go back to the familiar because they know the trump pence years it was better. Everywhere i go, we were in iowa over the weekend. Were going to be back in New Hampshire this week. I hear people telling me that we need new leadership in the republican party. Frankly, also, in the wake of yesterdays indictment and frankly the indictment that may come out of georgia and all the other legal issues around the president. What yesterday guaranteed that if that donald trump is our nominee, all were going to do is talk about january 6. The American People, like i did here at the indiana state fair, want to talk about the problems theyre facing and bringing solutions to restoring security and prosperity to American Families and all of the American People. Martha so in the most recent polls, the same poll, donald trump is at 54 . Ron desantis is at 17. Youre at 3 in that poll. The others on this list have qualified for the debate stage on august 23. At least check, you have qualified you check the box for the polling and i believe also for the 200 votes in 20 states. On july 7, you said in terms of the 40,000 individual donors, you were in the five different range trying to make that mark. Where are you now . Well, were closing hard. People can go to mikepence2024. Com if they appreciate our career, our record and vision for this country. Donate a dollar to help us get on the debate stage. I have been very humbled at the outpouring of support. I think, you know, nikki haley and vivek had 21 weeks to get it done. It took tim scott 15 weeks. Were at about 10 weeks when i announced. Were working hard at it. Im not giving out gift cards or kickbacks. Martha as some are. Theyre going to the website and helping us. Martha obviously, you would have been running on the trump pence ticket again if things were different. When you look at the numbers and the polling, are you surprised there is not more support for your candidacy, sir . Its still early. When Mike Huckabee won iowa, he was about where i am in the polls today. When Rick Santorum won iowa, he was at the same spot. People of New Hampshire know how to sort these things out. They generally decide late. So karen and i will be travelling across the states and talking to people. Look, i said yesterday and ill say again, this country is more important than any one man. Our constitution is more important than any one mans career. The vast majority of republicans know that. They know we need new leadership and well work our hearts out to be a standard bearer and do everything in our power to make sure that joe biden is never reelected president of the United States. Martha real quick, two quick ones for you. So you say youre getting close. Were just a few weeks away. When do you think youll get the 40,000 mark to get on the stage . I think its the next week to ten days that well have that support. Weve been averaging 1,000 contributions a day. It was stronger over the weekend. Again, im humbled by the outpouring of support. Were not using gimmicks. Were putting our record out there. Not just the record as a Vice President , but also as a governor here in indiana where we balance budgets, taxes, we had record unemployment before i left to go to the white house. When you and i first met, i was a leader among house conservatives for 12 years and battled against the big spenders in our own party back in the day. People look at my record and see me as a proven conservative with a long career of consistent conservative principle and they know that voice not only belongs on that debate stage but millions of americans know were the one that needs to be carrying the banner in to the fall of 2024. Martha you hope your former running mate, donald trump, is on that stage and would you welcome the opportunity to challenge him on that stage . You Better Believe it i would. People ask me, would you debate donald trump . Ive debated him a thousand times. Just not with the cameras on. Its not all about january 6. Im going to make my case as strongly as i have every day since. I know i did my duty that day. Im going to call the president out on the fact that he called upon me to choose him over my oath to the constitution. I chose the constitution. Ill also theres an increasing difference between this version of President Trump and the four years we served. Hes shying away from the right to life. He wouldnt talk about fiscal discipline with entitlement reform. And like others, governor ron desantis, hes shying away from American Leadership in the world and talking and politics of appeasement. I believe in american strength at home and abroad. I look forward to having that debate with him and the also rans on the stage. Martha former Vice President mike pence, current gop candidate. Great to have you with us. See you soon. Thank you, martha. Martha thanks to him. The Vice President , mike pence, for his time today. 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Martha your thoughts on where he is now as the former Vice President and as a president ial candidate. Good afternoon. I think this tracks with his First Response to the indictment that he tweeted out no person should be above the constitution. If they try to be, they should never be the president. I think hes using this and sticking to it. The fact that he used the term crockpot lawyers is pretty telling. I think the Vice President is making a stand, but its a different stand than some of the others in the gop primary. You saw some of the responses that are trying to walk this line saying hey, we agree that the former president is getting a raw deal and the doj is weaponizing and theres two tiers of justice. I would be better and less chaos. Its a different take. The Vice President is taking it straight on. Martha its kind of stunning when you look at this number from the New York Times sienna poll. 71 of likely gop primary voters say republicans should stand behind trump amid the investigations. Were seeing that bear out. Hes standing by what he has always said, bret. Hes at 3 . The former president is 37 points ahead of his nearest competitor. We have seen this every indictment. The poll numbers go up. Weve seen his fundraising go up. In the hours after he found out and tweeted out or truth socialed out that he was getting indicted, there was a fundraising appeal and he raised money. Hes been indicted three times. Two times federally and one time in manhattan. Theres 78 counts against the 45th president of the United States and his political standing in the gop primary is only going up. I should point out in the past few minutes, hes going after ron desantis and said like mike pence, who i took from a flawed and failing gubernatorial reelect campaign in the great state of indiana to make my v. P. , ron is a very disloyal guy who has taken bad advice, referring to ed rollins comments about ron desantis. Martha you heard the Vice President say hes going to make the debate stage. Has to be difficult to be the former Vice President and to be in a position where you dont have the number of donors that you need. He said i havent had as much time. He said hes getting 1,000 donor as day. Ten days from now, he would be at 40,000 and put him around 30,000 right now. He also interestingly made it clear, if hes on the stage, he will go hard on the issue of ukraine. He accused President Trump and ron desantis of shying away from americas Leadership Position of ukraine and essentially russian appeasement, bret. Yeah, i think that that is one of the areas. Its Chris Christie is like him. He will take a similar take and so will nikki haley, i think. But this is the difference between the former Vice President and Vice President. I asked Governor Desantis about his initial take on ukraine. The two words were territorial dispute that desantis jumped on. Vice president pence, Governor Haley and christie have taken that directly on and believe that they should continue to support ukraine against russia, a weak russia is a stronger u. S. But theres definitely a split in the republican party, as you know, on capitol hill and really throughout this gop primary. Martha it will be no doubt a big issue for voters as we head in to the election. A new response to the most recent comments by the Vice President coming from the former president on truth social. He said i feel badly for mike pence who is attracting no crowds. He didnt fight against Election Fraud, which we will easily be able to prove based on the most recent fakes indictment and information that will have to be made available to us. Finally a big deal. The v. P. Had power that mike didnt understand. After the election, the rinos and dems changed the law taking the power away. Bret . If anybody thinks that truth social doesnt get out there, it gets out there right away. This evidence is of that. Martha thanks, bret. See you at 6 00. Well see him august 23 as we get together to host the gop republican debate. We look forward to that very big night in milwaukee. An update for you now on the situation on capitol hill after a possible Security Threat. Chad pergram reporting live from capitol hill. Hi, chad. What can you tell us . Good afternoon, martha. This was a little scary scene where there was a call that came in to the washington d. C. Police that they alerted the u. S. Capitol police. What happened there after is they evacuated the Russell Senate Office Building. This is the oldest Senate Office building. Its across the street from the u. S. Capitol. This is where committees have their offices and where senators have their offices as well. You can walk in to any offices, you clear security. You go through a Metal Detector but you tonight have to have an appointment or be on a tour. You can go meet with someone or have a cup of coffee or walk around. You dont need a special pass. Im told they dumped the building quickly. They came running down the hall with guns saying everybody get out. There was concern of an active shooter. They never saw a weapon, they never heard any shots. So they got the Russell Senate Office Building evacuated. Connected underground is the dirksen Senate Office building. Theyre trying to clear the buildings. They dont think theres a Security Threat at the capitol right now. Martha chad, thank you very much. 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Martha she says its a completely flawed move. Jamie dimon said he thought it was ridiculous. What is your take . Were these guys in America In May when we had a Debt Ceiling Standoff . We dont know how to do budgets in this country. We havent for a very long time. If im fitch, i am thinking what took you so long. We have too much debt and nobody can figure out how to fix it. What is most telling, fitch down grades us today. What does the administration say . Its trumps fault. You want to know why fitch down graded us . Because we have an administration that says that instead of saying maybe well get our act together. Martha lets look at that statement. The white house blaming the gop for this fitch decision. More than two years in to the biden presidency. Its clear that extremism by republicans is a continued threat to our economy. Parse that for us. What fitch said is that were down grading the u. S. Because of deteriorating governance. That means the people that lead cant get together and take responsible action. They make that determination in part based on statements like that, which always seek to blame somebody else instead of taking control for what is happening. The Biden Administration fundamentally does not want to cut spending. So any action taken by anybody in this country to say hey, lets cut spending that is a threat to democracy. No, its not. Its living within your budget. Like what every family in america does. I think fitch is warranted in doing this. I dont like it but i dont blame them. Martha what country does a better job . Theres six or seven countries that have a lower debt to gdp rating. We can grow out of these problems though. But we have an administration that doesnt want to grow. They want to take your money and spend. Eventually people like fitch or s p says if that is your model, youre not the gold standard. 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As russias Ground Invasion grinds on against ukraine in the east and south of the country, an Aerial Battle is unfolding at a faster pace. After months of taking russian bom bombardment, the ukraines are striking back. Over the weekend, ukraine drone targeted moscow. Two nights against, more drones followed a similar path and were engaged by russian air defense, a high rise in moscow was hit twice no serious injuries were reported. Ukrainian drones have been targeted by russian positions in the crimeian peninsula. Russians launched drones in to southern ukraine hitting an alternate port for grain. This is a critical thoroughfare with the russians Blocking Experts in the black sea. Today Vladimir Putin and the turkish president spoke over the phone. Turkey brokered the initial deal to export grain. And russian is willing to strike close to nato territory. Martha . Martha thanks, trey. On a new inset of untold story podcast, we sit down with jonathan morris. We talked about a trip that we took to the holy land recently and how it brought The Life Of Jesus to life for all of us. One of the things it said, the word became flesh here. Its a reminder that it wasnt just oh, in some story book the word became flesh and dwelt among us. They said here, the word became flesh here. Always good to have someone that speaks lat tern and a theologian on a trip. The first time that jonathan went back to the holy land since he left the priest hood. He was with his motherinlaw and his wife. It was an extraordinary journey. We also answer some questions in this podcast as well. Its available at foxnewspodcast. Com. Thats the story of wednesday, august 2. Story goes on. Tomorrow expects to be a big day as well. We look forward to seeing you here at 3 00 p. M. Tomorrow. Have a great evening. Stay tuned to more on fox news. Your world starts right now. Neil all right. Things are going to look a lot different outside that building on the left tomorrow. 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