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Personally bought insurance for themselves fearing they would be sued because of the, quote, madhouse going on behind the scenes of the fbi, the misconduct there. The flynn probe was such a problem, it was a, quote, nightmare at the fbu, that the agent running it, quote, was obsessed with conspiracy theories. That person thought to be Andrew Mccabe. And so flimsy was the case against flynn, that the fbi planned to shut it down earlier than realized, in november of 2016, the day trump won. But top fbi officials kept it alive to satisfy the Obama Administration. Plus, ken starr back with us on this revelation, a key fbi agent who worked on both the flynn case and the Mueller Probe said he believes the flynn probe was part of a, quote, push to get trump, that trumprussia collusion was not there, it was a dead end, that the flynn probe was so, quote, problematic and based on such dumb theory thats a quote that he even warned there would be an investigation into what the fbi would do, and he threatened to quit. Also with us tonight former Trump Campaign adviser carter page. Remember, he was targeted by fbi agents who are now accused of deceiving that fisa court to get wiretaps to spy on him. Carter page on this new bombshell, that the main source for the debunked antitrump steele dossier, remember are, it was paid for by the democrats and the campaign, they helped paw for it and it was used by the fbi to get those wiretaps . That this guy was likely a russian spy who the fbi had already investigated for two years and deemed a possible threat to National Security. Also with us tonight, the hill media reporter joe concha on a new revelation. Just how many days has joe bide been spending off of the campaign trail . Not doing any Campaign Events . With just days to go before the first debate, and now this nancy pelosi again doubled down today saying cancel the debates. And detroits police chief on a frightening story, a family of Trump Supporters who had to flee their homes with their two infant children after rioters set on fire and burned to the ground their home garage and their vehicles. Why . Because they had a trump 2020 sign at their house. Well, thanks for joining us. Im elizabeth mcdonald. Weve got a jam of packed show, the evening edit starts right now. Elizabeth okay. Joining me on the phone now is Sidney Powell, attorney for Michael Flynn. Were going to start rolling on the f with wi text the fbi Text Messages that were revealed. Sidney, what exactly was president obama and the Obama Administration doing to put such pressure on fbi agents and analysts that they said they were glad to close the flynn case on the day trump was elected, then there was pressure to keep it open, they felt that they had to personally buy insurance because they thought they were going to be sued because of the misconduct going on at the fbi . What was president obama and the Obama Administration doing here . Well, obviously, they were exerting significant pressure on comey and mccabe to keep the investigation going, apparently particularly through comeys meeting with biden and obama and susan rice and sally yates on january 5th and apparently for a few days before either by phone or some kind of other meeting that i think is reflected in strzoks notes that were given to us a few weeks ago indicating that obama said he wanted the right people put on it and the investigation to continue. Biden mentioned the logan act. I think there was a meeting before the 5th or at least a conversation before the 5th that included that information. Elizabeth you know, are you going to take this to the Supreme Court . If we have to. Im hoping judge sullivan gets it right and salvages whats left of his reputation. Because hes, he was the hero of my book license to lie only to be a major disappointment when a different context involving a republican that was and a Republican Attorney general. Stevens, of course, was asked to be dismissed by eric holder, but that wasnt what happened in this case. Elizabeth the fbi Text Messages talk about how the flynn probe was based on, quote, conspiracy theories, was a nightmare, that basically, you know, if this ths becomes public, theres going to be tough questions through freedom of information act requests. William barnett, hes the fbi guy who work on the trumprussia probe and the sit right there, sidney, were going to cut to President Trump. Hes speaking right now. Lets listen to President Trump. [inaudible] well, shes outstanding, but i havent said that. Ill be announcing it tomorrow at 5 00. We are going to make a round table now, and then im going virginia, as you know. Were doing a rally tonight. And then well call it a day. I would say thats a pretty good day. [inaudible] in florida . Say who . [inaudible] no, i did not. By the way, a very highly thought of person, but i did not. [inaudible] amy coney barrett. Is that what theyre telling you . [inaudible] youll find out tomorrow. Shes very look, theyre all great. It could be any one of them. Could be, actually, anyone orphan anyone on the list. Theyre outstanding. But ill be announcing tomorrow at the white house. So were going for a round table now. We had an exciting day with hispanics and the africanamerican community. Were going to have a big round table now at the hotel, and then were going, i dont know whos going we me, is anybody going with me on this . The rally. Steve, you want to see another rally, i know that. [inaudible] go ahead . [inaudible] okay, good. [inaudible] well, i havent said it was her, but she is outstanding. But theyre all outstanding. Theyre all very outstanding people. Top of the line academically and every way possible. [inaudible] i did not. No, i did not. I didnt. Have a good time, everybody. [inaudible] say it . Do you promise to appoint prolife justices [inaudible] is the goal to overturn roe v. Wade . No, no. Youll be seeing all of that tomorrow. We have not made our intentions felt, but youll be seeing tomorrow, okay in good. Thank you. [inaudible] and ill see some of you, some are traveling with me tonight. And i think i speak tonight at 9 00 in virginia, okay . Thank you. [inaudible conversations] elizabeth thats president okay, thats President Trump on the way to virginia talking about the Supreme Court nomination announcement will come together. Lets get back to Sidney Powell and our discussion of what happened with these fbi Text Messages revealing serious abuses of power going on behind the scenes at the fbi. Sidney, you know, theres also talk of, you know, just keeping it open by going after general Michael Flynns financial records through the use of National Security letters, that sort of circumvents subpoenas. In other words, do that, keep it hidden from Michael Flynn. These are major abuses of power. How do you hold the guys who are doing this accountable . Well, the ones who were trying to make up a crime against him certainly should be prosecuted for obstruction the of justice. The abuse of power that went into the extended investigation and the harassment of him and his son proposed violations of section 242, i think, abuse of power involving his civil rights, and those are at least misdemeanor offenses that should be prosecuted in this circumstance. Lawyers should, at minimumming lose their law licenses, and those who knew exactly what they were doing and working so hard to do it here should be prosecuted for their conspiracies and falsification of documents and everything else. Elizabeth you know, we just were showing Text Messages indicating that the fbi analysts talking about what was going on in the flynn case behind the scenes, indicated that they felt white house senior official were the ones leaking to the media. So thats parking lot of the story too, right part of the story too the, right, about media leaks coming out of james comey has already admitted that and white house senior officials, your reaction to that, in order to keep the flynn and the trumprussia probe going when there was no sure. Yes, we know now that the fbi leaked information at different times to put articles in the media that they could then justify whatever they wanted to do, and special counsel did the same thing. I think more evidence at some point will come out about that too. Of course, right after flynn entered his first guilty plea, the evidence exploded in the press that all the Text Messages between strzok and page indicated their affair and their hatred of President Trump. But that was, they managed to suppress that until right after the guilty plea. Elizabeth it just feels like when you put it all together, this was a topdown effort just to get, you know, President Trump and michael for instance. When you look at it in toto, you know, everything. Weve been covering it since 2017, fbi agents talking about, you know, behind the scenes people here are scrambling for information to support their theories, its a madhouse, you know, things like Andrew Mccabe was supposed to be, thought to be the, quote, worst offender of rabbit hole thinking and conspiracy theories about this. So, you know, when you put it all together, it just feels like a real push to, you know, to bring down and block President Trump to be elected on the part of the Obama Administration. Thats what i think thats what people want to know, how much was president obamas fingerprints on this . His fingerprints are all over it. Theres the reference in the new Text Messages about how his briefing went on january 5th. So it was a fullfledged briefing. And, of course, we have susan rices memo on it and james comeys memo on it. Theres a lot of information about that, and now we know that there are other people who need to be asked about it as well. And mr. Barnett, the fbi agent whose 302 is included in the governments filing last night, says it was a topdown operation. Hes absolutely clear about that. Elizabeth yeah. And he threatened to quit over it. You know . So well be staying on the story. Sidney, we always love having you on. We really appreciate your insights and perspectives, and well be staying on the general Michael Flynn case as well. Sidney powell, thanks again. Thank you so much, liz. Elizabeth sure. Next up, former independent counsel ken starr back with us on this revelation, a key fbi agent, William Barnett, who worked on both the flynn cause and the Mueller Probe, says he believes the flynn probe was part of a push to, quote, get trump, that trumps russia collusion was not there, or they didnt have the case, didnt have the predicate for a criminal probe and that the flynn probe was, quote, so problematic and base on such, quote, dumb theory, he even warned there would be an investigation into it, and he threatened to quit. That story next. But it turned out to be the opposite story. It was them who were dealing with russia. You think of people in a place. But when you have the chase mobile app, your bank can be virtually any place. So, when you get a check. You can deposit it from here. And you can see your transactions and check your balance from here. You can save for an emergency from here. Or pay bills from here. So when someone asks you, wheres your bank . 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I want to focus just very briefly on mr. Barnett, a respected fbi agents indictment, as it were, of the special counsels office and their fanciful theory of collusion, all made up. The theory of the day. Andrew weissmann having the here theory of the day being, hey, weve got the evidence of a quid pro quo. It all happened on a yacht near greece. And then that socalled evidence doesnt develop at all. And that theory is forgotten within a day or two. And that attitude within the special counsels office, bob muellers office was were not out to get the facts, were out to get trump. This is a terrible indictment of the special counsel. Elizabeth yeah, its totally poison for the american system. Again and again weve been saying, you know, the viewer out there has to understand that we dont this is, using the Intelligence Community to go after an opposition candidate. William barnett told the u. S. District attorney he didnt want to pursue trumprussia collusion because it was, quote, not there, there was no criminal basis for it, that it was supposition based on supposition that it was, quote, a dead end, that this was basically run by lawyers from the top down, Andrew Mccabe, james comey on down. It was a fishing expedition, you know, basically searching for facts to fit a crime when they didnt have a criminal basis to start the probe to begin with. Thats what William Barnett is saying. Whats your reaction . My reaction is shame on Andrew Mccabe and shame on peter strzok. And likely, although comeys name is not all over this particular 302, but the leadership at the fbi or is very much to blame under james comey for all the bad things that you rightly said happened, and thats at the fbis feet. Again, the last part of the 302 goes on to his service, mr. Barnetts service, in the special counsels office, and that is really disturbing. They werent professional. Read the 302, and you will come away, a fairminded person will come away that mr. Barnett, a career fbi agent, integrity unquestioned, saying lack of integrity on the part of bob muellers team. They had a theory. They, again, were not out to get at the truth. Shame on them. Shame on them. Elizabeth yeah. What they have put this country through is, if its not a crime, it certainly is a travesty of justice. Elizabeth yeah. Its a theory in search of a crime. And William Barnett is indicating that, you know, the mueller team and the fbi officials are basically acting as if they were part of something bug, they wanted to be part of something big, theres the evidence out there, we just have to find it. So instead of just letting the facts and the evidence take you to the conclusion, they had this umbrella theory that didnt pan out. Your final word on this. Yeah, exactly, didnt pan out. Instead of doing it in a professional way, doing precisely what you said, lets find out the facts and assess the facts, instead they superimposed a theory. The president of the United States is essentially engaged in traitorous acts, and that was so unfair and unfounded, and he was blowing the whistle all throughout. He wanted to be taken off the investigation, it was so unprofessional, and he thought, in fact, there might even be danger of charges against those who were involved in the investigation. So its a very damning insight into the special counsels office as well as the fbis leadership. Elizabeth ken starr, its great to have you on, sir. Come back soon. Thank you. Elizabeth coming up, Detroit Police chief james craig with us on the frightening story of a family of Trump Supporters who had to flee their homes with their two infant children after rioters set on fire their garage at their home and vehicles. Why . Because they had a trump 2020 the sign out front. That story next. 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Do you believe fbi director Christopher Wray, Christopher Wray testified yesterday that the fbi is now probing who is funding and who is financing the rioters in antifa, do you believe that theyre doing that at the fbi . Oh, absolutely, elizabeth. I do. Lets face it, this is not that complicated. When you look across our nation, and weve been into this now in excess of a hundred days, its well coordinated, its planned. Is and so when you see it happen in every city, while im so happy and excited to report that we didnt have the looting and burning. But make no mistake, there were individuals on the ground, outsiders who were trained to incite violence in our city. They just couldnt get the traction here in detroit. But we saw it in other cities. So it begs the question, whos doing it, whos funding it. And more importantly, we know its coordinated. And so i believe that the fbi, i have tremendous respect for director wray and the work that the fbu is doing, and i know fbi is doing, and i know theyre working this case vigorously. Breathe. Elizabeth who do you think is funding antifa . Whos funding it, who do you think . I dont know. I dont even want to speculate. There could be any number of places, there could be smaller groups that are funding people who are sympathetic to the agenda. But i wont even go on and say who i think specifically or what groups are funding it. But i can tell you of course its being funded. The fact that they have lawyers, theyre getting out of jail when weve made arrests. Its planned. I just tonight know. I dont have that i just dont know. I dont have that level of intelligence. But certainly ive watched with diligence whats going on in all the cities across our country. If it happens in los angeles, certainly some of its going to touch us, philadelphia. Ive seen it, ive just seen it over the hundredplus days. Elizabeth you know, sir, you have done, you and your team have done such a good job of protecting detroit and the environs there, you know, because we know that detroit has been through it with riots in the past, and it can really hurt communities for generations. You know, so fbi director e testified that cities that cooperated and got help from the government did keep protests peaceful. You guys didnt need to go there, but hes pointing out cities like portland, oregon, the cities that rejected help, they got hit with violent riots. These professional anarchists, opportunists used in the protests as an opportunity for mayhem, and theyve done it, and weve seen this break out around the world, this is whats been happening. Your reaction to that. Well, its clear to me whats happening. First of all, youve got political structures in some of these cities who are appeasing these anarchists, and theyre just not leading. Im just going to say it and ill probably be criticized for it, but its true. Here in detroit, though, its very different. A couple of things, one, we have strong relationships in our community. Theyre not going to tolerate this anarchy. They dont want it. These folks do not speak for the city of detroit. And so the mayor of detroit and myself are in lockstep. Were just not going to tolerate violence. And thats what needs to happen elizabeth yeah. And and i think thats the real key. Elizabeth no tolerance, yeah. And, you know, we now have shocking images from a story we reported yesterday, a family of Trump Supporters in a town called brooklyn center, minnesota, they were attacked wednesday night. Why . Because they had a trump 2020 sign. Rioters burned to the ground their garage and vehicles, and attackers spray painted biden 2020, blm and the capital letter a. This family had to escape with their two infant children, aged 2 years old and 5 months old, and they had to rescue puppies that were in that garage. Knocked out the familys surveillance camera just before fires were set, but police apparently have footage from other surveillance cameras. This is whats happening, going into neighborhoods now and burning down property . Of peoples homes . Your thoughts about can this be stopped . How do you stop this . Well, first of all, we must stand united. You must have people who sit in seats of leadership stand united. As ive often times said on maybe your show and many others, what happened in portland or, no, seattle, this whole business of summer of love, lets just let them basically break the law. You have to stand together united, all of us. I dont care if youre a council person, chief elizabeth yeah. We stand as one. Were America Elizabeth they threaten i hear you. But the thing is is, they could have killed this family. It is outrageous and a disgrace, what happened to this family with two infant children, they had to leave their homes because arsonists set it on fire. Your final word, and then weve got to go, chief craig. Let me just say this, were americans first. Secondly, this is not about left, its not about right, its not about a what race you are, its about this mob, news domestic terrorists who have an agenda, and they, if you talk against their agenda, then theres a problem. Bottom lewin, we need to call it what it really is bottom line. Elizabeth all right. Chief craig, its great to have you on, sir. Come back soon and have a good weekend. Thanks for your service to our country. Thanks, liz. Elizabeth up next, the next revolution host steve hilton joins us now. Progressive democrats now want new legislation to put term limits on Supreme Court justices and saying they want a new bill the president can only pick two Supreme Court justices in a fouryear term. 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I want your reaction to hardleft progressives talking about introducing legislation next week that would put term limits on Supreme Court justices and president s should only have two scotus picks for a fouryear term. Whats your thought about that . You cant do this kind of thing through legislation. This is a massive change to our constitution. If you want to make those changes and, by the way, i can see the argument behind it for wanting to depoliticize the Supreme Court but lets remember who politicized it in the first place. It was the democrats originating the first time with the way they treat treated robert bork all those years ago when joe biden was there. Theyre the ones that caused the politicization. Now theyre coming along saying lets put in these new rules in order to depoliticize it. Fine. Then argue for it the proper way, a constitutional amendment with all the thresholds you need to meet in order to secure that. You cant just write a piece of legislation on a friday afternoon to change the constitution like that. Its completely ridiculous. Elizabeth you probably need a constitutional amendment for what theyre talking about when it comes to judges on the Supreme Court. You know, so you bring up, you know, it was joe biden who basically got the ball rolling in 1987 with robert bork hearings. Coining the term forking because it was so nasty, so ideological, the Washington Post ended up saying, hey, joe biden, what are you doing . Youre acting like a prosecutor, not a juror here. So it seems like can you stop things from progressing from that to where it is now, steve . How do you stop it . Because now the democrats are talking about walking out of the hearings, you know, the confirmation hearings or, you know, boycotting them. So how do you stop this . Well, i think the only correct position is to follow the rules as they are laud out and followed laid out and followed in the constitution and elsewhere which is what the president is doing, which is what Mitch Mcconnell is doing. And thats the only sensible way. You cant just make it up as you go along as the democrats are trying to do. They can protest all they like, they can use the maneuvers weve been hearing about, but its not going to change the fundamental position which is that the president has the right to nominate someone, theres no time limit on that within the time hes in office, and the senate has the right to discuss and have hearings and then confirm someone. And thats going to happen irrespective of what the democrats do to make a protest. I think in the long term what youre going to see if you get more conservative judges on the court, youll get to a depoliticization because what they believe in is actually making sure that more of these contentious political decisions are decided by the politicians through elections and legislatures rather than by the courts. And thats the key to it. So in a funny way, if you confirm more conservative judges, that itself will take the politics out of the judiciary. Elizabeth well, yeah, and right. Finally, thats the issue with borking. Joe biden was said to be trying to turn the Supreme Court into a leftwing Super Legislature for the Democrat Party, and that was the issue. Its thought to be amy barrett, shes already been vetted, to replace Justice Kennedy who also, you know, Brett Kavanaugh took that seat, so well see tomorrow who the pick is going to be at 5 p. M. Eastern. Okay, steve, always great to have you on. Catch steves show, the next revolution, sundays at 9 p. M. Eastern time on the fox news channel, and we thank you again, steve hilton. Hell be back on the show. Next up, the hill media reporter joe concha on new revelations about just how many days joe biden has spent off of the campaign trail not doing any Campaign Events with just days to go before the first debate. And look at this, nancy pelosi doubling down again today saying, you know what . Cancel the debates, dont do them. Joe concha next. Somebody said, oh, he wont do well at the debate. I said i think youre wrong, hell do fine. Theyll give him a big shot something, and hell go out this. Hell have a lot of energy. Hell have energy, hell be like superman for about 15 minutes. Thats what my dad does. Good job, michael ok, lindsey now tell the class what your mommy does. My mom has super powers. Its like she can see the future. What . its like she time travels in a rocket ship. Thats cool and then she comes back saying try this or try that. She helps everyone. 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That will not prepare him for what hes going to get from Chris Wallace which will be questions hes probably never heard before. He gets defensive, he gets angry, and he gets incoherent sometimes in terms of getting his thoughts. I know the Trump Campaign is trying to raise expectations in terms of bidens performance, i think were going to see for the first time joe biden being challenged and not handling it very well. As you said, hes only been on the campaign trail 15 out of 25 days in september. That means hes taken 10 days off right before a president ial election, six weeks beforehand. Youve got to want the job. And it appears thats not the case. I mean, 7 out of the last 14 days alone he hasnt campaigned or taken questions for that matter. What does that say in term of the campaigns confidence in their candidate when theyre hiding him on an almost daily basis . Elizabeth you know, whats really interesting, the Democrat Party chair for the state of texas said the Biden Campaign is saying theyre talking about covid19, thats why hes not taking fripps. The party chair taking trips. The party chair said, well, he has his own plane. He can get on his own plane. And then you see President Trump making 24 trips to 17 different states. Listen, were not advocating for either candidate, were just laying out the facts. I dont think weve ever seen anything like this in a president ial campaign where the presumptive, the democrat candidate isnt out there taking questions from reporters. I mean, again and again, are we going to be in for fireworks on tuesday night . I mean, could this be a knockdown, dragout brawl where joe biden starts yelling instead of answering the questions we know that President Trump has taken reporters to task, but this is something different. What are we in for for tuesday night . What do you think is going to happen . Were going to see super bowllike numbers in terms of viewers. Hillary clinton and donald trump four years ago, their first debate was viewed by 85 million on tv, and so we expect around 100 million watching this, and for many itll be the first time many viewers will be seeing joe biden because hes done so few press conferences and getting out there. Joe biden has made 12 visits outside of delaware since august 11th. 12, thats it. That is an incredible number. And if as you said, trump 24 trips, 17 states, he is outworking his opponent, and right now joe biden is being defined by the Trump Campaign and not defining himself, elizabeth. Elizabeth breaking news, fox news reporting that the president s choice will be amy coney barrett. So well hear that announcement likely 5 p. M. Eastern saturday. Well be looking at that to come up in the debates too. Joe concha, thanks so much for joining us. Come back soon, okay . Happy friday. Through. Thanks, elizabeth. Elizabeth you too. 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Elizabeth lets welcome back to the show former Trump Campaign adviser carter page. Hes the author of the book abuse of power, chronicling how he was a target of the fbi. Great to have you back on again. Dud you have any idea whatsoever that a what government documents show now, that the main source for the nowdebunked antitrump steele dossier was, quote, a likely russian spy . Did you have any idea about that . No. And i have been fighting for the truth for years already, liz, and its really unfortunate that were finally finding out about this just 40 days before the election. So this is just an extraordinary level of corruption that has just been uncovered yesterday, and i, like i said, ive been trying since the very beginning to get the truth. No luck. Elizabeth so you had no idea, you had no idea he was a russian agent who the fbi had investigated for two years because there was a potential threat to National Security because of his ties to russian intelligence. You didnt know any of that, and the fbi was told about this, you know, in december of 2016 before they got wiretaps on you. Finish you didnt know anything about that. No. A although they say it was possible he was a threat to National Security. We now know that he and his colleagues in the Democrat Party funded by the dnc, they did become a threat to National Security in the leadup to the last president ial election and throughout the initial years of the trump administration. I was getting almost constant Death Threats related to all these false allegations that this subsource was distributing or was helping Christopher Steele and providing Christopher Steele, the dnc consultant, just to talk down President Trump. Take down President Trump. And my name was a attached to this completely madeup story, so its truly extraordinary. Elizabeth so this source worked at the brookings institution. He also was asking a lot of questions about u. S. Military vessels. He was also this is, it gets worse with. In may 2009 he tried to recruit two individuals who were close to a Foreign Policy adviser to president barack obama saying that if you, if you get a job in the government, you have access to classified information, you may be able to make a little extra money on the side. So when you see information like this given that and, by the i way, turning to, switching now over to hunter biden and that story, have you ever been wired any money whatsoever from overseas individuals . No, never anything like that, thats for sure. And, you know, its exactly, its funny about that quote that you just cited. A little bit of extra money on the side. I mean, that 3 million plus from a senior oligarch in moscow is really bringing that whole concept to an entirely new level. And thats another example of how weve been waiting, and i know several senior members of congress have been pushing for the truth for years just like ive been pushing or calling for the truth since the last president ial election, and were finally just getting some initial clues about the extent of the complete corruption and just how far these people will go to line their own pockets. Elizabeth so how do you reconcile in your head that the democrats, including the Hillary Clinton campaign, helped fund this antitrump opposition research, the steele dossier, that was using as its main source a russian intelligence, a russian spy that the fbi had already investigated and that now critics warn, saying basically this is russia disinformation coming into the steele dossier, you know, basically that fbi was pursuing you based on russian disinformation that. s what we heard, republican senators have been telling us. How do you reconcile this . Well, i think it is we are going through a reconciliation process. But unfortunately, that entire sham was pushed by the democrats colleagues in the mainstream media. Theyre the ones that were broadcasting this russian discuss information for years and years on end. So unfortunately, there does need to be a reckoning, and we are not quite there yet. And, unfortunately, were now less than 40 days from the next election, so i think its really important that americans know the full truth. Elizabeth you know, senator graham called this most stunning and damning revelation his committee has uncovered in the review of the trumprussia probe. Senator graham said, quote with to me, failure of the fbi to inform the fisa court that the primary subsource for Christopher Steele was suspected of being a russian agent. This is a breach, he says, of every duty owed by Law Enforcement to the judicial system. Had you ever had any indication that the fbi was not telling the fisa court about this agent, this fbi this thought to be an fbi, excuse me, a russian spy, that they knew about for years and years and years . You had no word about that. Absolutely none. And, unfortunately, when this whole doj Inspector General report calm came out, it was recontacted. Again, this information which was originally released in december of 2019, were just learning about it today. And in terms of chairman graham, he is a National Hero having fought so hard for over two years to get to the bottom of this, and the fact that were only now just getting in, i think its a quantum leap forward, but there clearly is a lot more to come, and there should be. And im really looking forward to next wednesday when chairman graham has former fbi director james comey on his, come to the committee. Elizabeth right. Theres, obviously, going to be a lot of questions that need to be answered. Elizabeth all right. Carter page, thanks for coming on. Well have you back on. Carter page there. Its good to see you again. Thanks for joining us. Im elizabeth macdonald. Youre watching the evening edit. Thanks for joining uss and havea good weekend. Lou good evening, everybody. Riots and more violence in louisville. Police arrested dozens of rioters last night including a state legislator arrested and charged with rioting. Businesses and vehicles were vandalized by the leftwing mob. The Citys Library set ablaze, the citys 9 p. M. Curfew extended through the weekend. The suspect in the shooting of two Louisville Police officers wednesday were arranged today. The suspects name is lorenzo johnson. He pleaded not guilty to two charges of firstdegree assault on Police Officers and