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Back in 1991 this was a death sentence. I was lining up, getting the will together, getting everything in place when i was going to die. But magic put on an epic fight not just to live, but to make a difference. I just want to, before i leave here, make an impact on this world. He did just that, reinvigorating the inner cities and diving into politics. Who is more impressed with who . Well, he loves basketball. Magic johnson, the man with the heart of a champion, continues to reinvent himself and redefine what it means to win. Whats up, harvey . How are you, man . Its so good to see you. Good to see you, too. You know what were gonna do . Were gonna do it this way. We might have to. Wait, youre gonna stand there and interview me from right here . Okay, so let me tell you what were gonna do. I have followed you my whole life because i was born in l. A. , and you were kind of the thread of my life. Thank you. So i wanna trace your life from childhood on and figure out how you became the guy you are. Okay. Lets get started. Lets do it. Okay, whats your object here . Well, these are keys. You know, my dad worked for General Motors for 30 years, and michigan is known for cars. Of course. Magic the big three in michigan, and so thats what i grew up really loving because of my father, and because of who he is and was has allowed me to become the man i am today, you know, cause i idolize my father, i always wanted to be like my father. Harvey your dad, my understanding is, never missed a day of work in his whole life. Magic thirty years. So i have that same mentality. So it rubbed off. It rubbed off. In so many ways. Harvey you grew up poor. You had ten kids in the family. Did you dream poor or dream big . Dream big. I didnt have poor dreams. I had big, rich dreams, and i dont know why. Right . And i was always dreaming that i would play in the nba. I was always dreaming that i would have a nice home. I was always dreaming that i would become a businessman. Did you believe in yourself . I believed in myself. You thought it would happen. No question about it. I thought it would happen because i was putting the work in. You know, i was putting the time in. And my mom was encouraging me and telling me that one day i could do this, i could go play in the nba. And that really helped. Tell me about your mom. The sweetest person on earth. My mother, shes a really christian woman, and we would go to the hospital, and when somebodys sick, she would take our last now, this is our last food and take it to them. Really. You gotta share. When you have something, you have to share. And i was like, wow, and now thats who i am today. Mr. And mrs. Earvin johnson. Without you getting me on that truck every day, every morning, making me go to work with you, i wouldnt really learn what hard work was all about without you. I owe you so much, and i love you so much, dad. Tell me about racial prejudice growing up. Yeah, it played a part because i lived on the west side of lansing, and it was predominantly black, and so here i am, you know, elementary, middle school predominantly black. Now i get bussed to a high school that was all white. Harvey and you were against that. Magic i was against that because it was a school that was only ten minutes away, sexton high school, i couldve walked to, and they were a powerhouse in basketball, and i thought i was going to be a part of that tradition. Every high school was bad in basketball, so its like, oh, no, im going to the losing school. And so i get bussed across town. First couple of weeks it was challenging. A lot of fights, name calling, the whole thing. It was i thought that maybe this wasnt gonna work and we would never make it through the year. Did it work . It finally worked, and sure enough im glad that i went to everett high school, to know how to work along somebody who didnt look like me cause my whole life ive been doing that. So that actually helped me for everything that i do today. So it was a blessing for me. It didnt hurt basketball either. No, it didnt hu we won the state title my senior year, so everything worked out for me. Commentator pass to johnson, hell go in for the. Behind the back stunt. Harvey did you feel that basketball was your destiny, growing up . Yeah, i really did. It was, uh, i dont know, i just loved to play. I dribbled that ball all the time. I took it to school. When we had breaks, i would be out on the Basketball Court playing, lunch time playing, after school playing. How did you get the name magic . So were undefeated, and people wonder, what is going on with with everett high school, and the sportswriter came in and said, oh, my god, i gotta give you a nickname. I gotta somebodys already called dr. J. , somebodys already called big e. Im gonna call you magic. And, harv, i never thought it would stick, you know . And the next day in the paper, earvin Magic Johnson. And everybody just followed suit. Yeah. Yeah, thats how i got my nickname. Harvey i am honored to be in this room. This blows me away. Tell me about it. This is amazing. Well, this is my trophy room. It used to be the kids game room, so i couldnt wait till they got out the house. Get out of the house. I said, go. And so i turned it into my trophy room. I asked commissioner stern, at that time, could i really have the real nba championship trophy, from tiffany . He allowed me, gave me permission to call tiffany. And these are the real nba championship trophies made by tiffany. These are, over here, all my mvps, every year that i won the mvp, i believe. Fantastic. And then my Championship Rings are over here. So the five Championship Rings. And then what made it so unique and special, harvey, now, i had to have the floor. Right . Oh, this is this is my favorite. With the l. A. Lakers, of course, los angeles lakers, and of course we were known for showtime. Commentator kareem passes off to worthy. Its a fourontwo, middleman magic, right side worthy. Hes got it. Score. Thats showtime but the real thing that im also excited about is this case here cookie and i were on vacation in venice, italy, and we went where they blow the glasses. Harvey so this is blown glass . Magic this is blown glass. Pat riley, kareem, jamaal wilkes, michael cooper, james worthy, a. C. Green, kurt rambis harvey can i ask you a question . Magic mychal thompson.  harvey howd you win a championship in a white school . laughter well. I wasnt too bad. But so they did this, and this is it right here. Harvey its fantastic. Yes. There is an element of your personality that drew celebrities, fans. The lakers made more money because of it. It became the biggest ticket in town. It was littered with celebrities. You were the guy that was bringing those people in. Its all i wanted to do was to win and to entertain the fans. And ill tell you one of the greatest moments i had. I got close to michael jackson, and i convinced him to come to a laker game. It mustve been crazy. Oh, my goodness, it was so crazy. He told me, imitating michael i cant come. Theyre not gonna let me see the game. I said, you gotta come anyway. And he came to a laker game, and it was the greatest moment for me and for the team, right . So ive had some great moments, being a laker, no question. You had a big rivalry that started in college, at msu, but continued with larry bird yeah. There was a racial element to this. Oh, yeah. They called him the great white hope i think there still is a conflict between the white and the black, and i dont enjoy going to basketball and seeing all black players. Blacks cheering for the lakers, whites for the celtics. And so it was that element to it as well. And the lakers, we were most of our team was black. Most of their team was white. So it just it had to play into it. You are such a smart guy. Did people assume, ah, hes a basketball player. He cant be that smart . Oh, yeah, i got that a lot. Did you use it to your advantage . Oh, i did. I really did, too. They dont understand how many times i met with commissioner stern, how many times i met with dr. Buss. You know, i was meeting with ceos when i was still playing because i knew that was my next journey in life. You were thinking about that. I was thinking about it, even as a player. I wanna take you back to the day you got diagnosed. What went through your mind . I was just devastated. I mean, am i gonna die . What does that mean for cookie . That was the hardest thing i ever had to do was to drive home to tell her that i had hiv. [ scoffs ] if you say so. Im sorry . 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Thats why Xfinity Mobile created a Wireless Network that auto connects you to millions of secure wifi hot spots. And the best lte everywhere else. Xfinity mobile is a different kind of Wireless Network designed to save you money. Save up to 400 a year on your wireless bill. Plus get 250 back when you buy an eligible phone. Click, call or visit a store today. Tell me what that is. An olympic gold medal. Wow, was that barcelona . Thats barcelona. May i . Yes, yes. And the dream team. Harvey wow, thats fantastic. This was a big moment.  magic yes. It really was. Never thought i would be able to play in the olympics. I gotta tell ya, if somebody wouldve told me in 1991 that id be sitting here with you interviewing you in 2018, i wouldnt believe it because back in 1991 for a lot of people, this was a death sentence. Thats right. I wanna take you back to the day you got diagnosed, when they told you this, because it was a routine blood test. What went through your mind . It blew me away. We were in utah about to play a exhibition game, and they called me back, got to the Doctors Office and he begins to tell me that i had hiv. And and i was just devastated. I mean, am i gonna die . What does that mean for cookie . Because thats what i was really scared of because she was pregnant with our son ej at that time and they said they didnt know until they test her. So that was the hardest thing i ever had to do, was to drive home to tell her that i had hiv and i remember like it was yesterday. We were right in that room behind us here and as i began to tell her, she just cried, and i felt i just felt pain and hurt because here i am making the woman that love me cry. She went and got tested the next day. She was okay. The baby was fine. Ej was fine. And then i can start working on myself. I was lining up everything, when i was gonna die, right . I was lining up getting a will together, getting everything in place. Right . You held a press conference, which it was, honestly, remarkable, gripping, shocking, sad. It just shook the nation. Um, because of the the hiv virus that i have attained, i will have to retire from the lakers today. Cookie and i, she wanted to really not go public. She was worried about what people gonna say and do to me. Harvey with good reason.  magic with good reason, right. And Elisabeth Glaser convinced her that the right thing to do was to go public. And thats what we did. And we wanted to help people and get the word out. I want people to know that were just normal people. Magic mmhm. Aw, uhuh, you dont have to cry. cause we are normal people. Okay . I think that you with this program, i feel that well be able to educate all your friends and everybody else. And you did and you were strong and you had a positive attitude in public. What were you like in private . You know, still thinking, am i gonna be here . Um, i was, you know, looking at her more and, you know, just like, man, i dont know whats gonna happen. Thats what really gets you, youre worrying about, hey, are you gonna be here a long time or how many years do i have . You know . And so i think that consumed me the first couple years. I was dealing with a lot and also not playing basketball anymore. That was that was the game that i love. And it came to a grinding halt. Yes, and not being part of the lakers anymore. So when you think about all the things i had to deal with, it was a lot on me. Newscaster once thought to affect only promiscuous homosexual males, aids is now spreading in epidemic proportions to other segments of the population. Harvey at the time, aids was viewed as a gay disease. Magic mmhm.  harvey and people started saying, well, magic must be gay. There were teammates that were saying that as well. Right. How did that impact you . Well, first of all, it hurt me. You know, you knew who i was. And, you know, when teammates start questioning you, saying Different Things that were untrue, that hurt me. But there were still other consequences. You had sponsors walk away from you. Kfc walked away. Target walked away. Did you feel like you almost had a Scarlet Letter on your head . Magic oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. I mean, everybody walked away, and so, okay, that was Something Else i had to deal with, you know . The disclosure really put your private life in the spotlight. Yeah. Yep. Your sex life. And all of a sudden people started talking about parties and women, and what came out was you had a really, you know, vibrant. Life in l. A. For a long time. Yes, i did, and i cant deny that. You know, i had fun out here in the best city in the world, and you just enjoyed yourself and yes, there were a lot of women, but at the same time, its so funny. I had that fun, but every time, harvey, i was empty, because i knew i loved cookie. So we had to deal with that, as a couple, and we dealt with that. I told her she couldve left. I said, i can understand if you want to leave. I would understand it. But she just she said, no, i loved you from freshman year in college and were gonna get through this, and we did and hows your health . My health is wonderful. I mean you look great. Im about to be 59, you know, and still going, and so that says something right there. Thats amazing. You came back to l. A. You went to the playboy mansion a lot. I did. You know, as a kid growing up in lansing, michigan, all you had was that playboy magazine, so you were like, look at these. It came to life. Exact so you were like, look at these. All right brad, once again i have revolutionized the songwriting process. Oh, here we go. I know i cant play an instrument, but this. This is my forte. Obviously, for auto insurance, weve got the wheel route. Obviously. Retirement, were going with a longterm play. Makes sense. Pet insurance, wait, let me guess. Flea flicker. Yes howd you know . Studying my playbook . Yeah, actually. So im guessing thats not a tiki torch that you have in your back yard. No, its not. You know, i was so blessed to carry this for the olympics for salt lake city, and i carried it in l. A. So this was 2002. 2002, yep. And it kind of underscores the whole thing. Hey, i may have hiv, but i m alive and im well. Alive and well, healthy, and i think that we had somewhat turned a corner on the fact that people was forgetting that, hey, this bad thing happened to Magic Johnson. He can still live with hiv, and still be accepted among people. It wasnt defining you any longer. Exactly. Exactly. So im taking you back to msu. You were a celebrity on campus, and my understanding is you really enjoyed that. Well, i think that you would love the attention. Um. You see the smile on my face. Yeah, no. Im reading the subtext. I loved it and i loved the fact that people recognized me and knew my name, and then i even had donuts named after me and things like that on the campus. Is that a double dribble donut . Double dribble . Never saw it. But the main thing i never forgot is why people recognize me. I was in the gym 24 hours a day. I loved to practice and play. Harvey those were your training wheels, in lansing, in michigan, but when you came out to l. A. , jerry buss not only took you under his wing, but you partied with him. Hard. Hard. I mean, i remember the stories, being totally on the outside, but it was epic. We had the best time, and i tell you, he loved to dance. So we would be at night clubs till 2 00, 3 00 in the morning, and he and id be partying, dancing, with all these beautiful ladies. And the one thing he did do for me, which was the thing that i had to do first, introduce me to hugh hefner. You went to the playboy mansion a lot. I did. Youre not supposed to tell everybody. Listen, i had heard it from the outside. Im serious. I did. And i had a ball, and when i met hugh, i almost fainted, right . cause, you know, as a kid growing up in lansing, michigan, all you had was that magazine, that playboy magazine, so you were like, look at these women. It came to life. Exact and it did, too. And we had a good time. And hugh was a big laker fan. And he even came to a lot of games. Were not even gonna talk about the forum club, are we . No, no. Its real legendary. The forum club. There will never be a place like the forum club. It was a place you could eat, dance, meet people, meet ladies you know what jeanie buss said about the forum club, right . What did she say . If you cant get laid in the forum club, you cant get laid. You cant she said it. Shes right. It was wonderful. It was a part of the l. A. Scene and a part of the laker scene. You didnt have to go anywhere. The party was already right there. So, being a celebrity is intoxicating. And one of the things that happened was you tried a talk show. And you said it right. Tried. Yeah. Announcer its the magic hour. Harvey that one didnt work so well. Magic mmmm. Mmmm.  harvey why did you do it . Was it just that everybody was saying, my god, youre Magic Johnson. You can do anything. Did you kinda drink the koolaid . Oh, yeah, and overdosed on the koolaid. Too much sugar in the koolaid. Yeah. And i tried it and found out really fast that i wasnt good at it, and it was a lot of hard work. See, thats why i dont have my brother or sisters on this show. cause they would be arguing about, man, magic, why i should say earvin. Earvin, why your dressing room bigger than mine . Magic right away i knew i wasnt good at it and harvey you saw there was a skill to it. Magic man, i mean, incredible skill set you have to have to be a talkshow host. You. Embody los angeles in so many ways. Why the hell dont you run for mayor someday . Oh, harvey. Im serious. Oh, man. Never crossed your mind . You know how many times people have asked me to do that . A lot. Run for mayor, run for governor, and im like, no. I like the flexibility of doing. Everything. If im out on the outside, in the private sector, i can help them more than being one of them. I saw a picture in your home, several pictures of you with president obama.  magic mmhm. Harvey and i looked at these pictures and i watched him look at you. And i started thinking, who is more impressed with who . cause he is really impressed with you. Well, i do you feel that . Yes, i feel that, but im more impressed with him by far. I wonder what hed say . Well, he loves basketball. And hes so smart and intelligent, and the things that he did for this country in eight years were truly amazing. Im just blessed. Cookie and i are blessed to be able to do the things that we do. And i just want to, before i leave here, make an impact on this world, and and thats what all im trying to do. You got back into sports in a big way. Cookie was like it was really funny when i told her, well, they want me to run the lakers, you know, on the basketball side. She said, you might as well. Youd be sitting here cursing at the tv every single time theyre on, so now you can really do something about it. But some give their clients cookie cutter portfolios. Fisher investments tailors portfolios to your goals and needs. Some only call when they have something to sell. Fisher calls regularly so you stay informed. And while some advisors are happy to earn commissions whether you do well or not. Fisher investments fees are structured so we do better when you do better. Maybe thats why most of our clients come from other money managers. Fisher investments. Clearly better money management. They feel likehey have to drink a lot of water. Patients that i see that complain about dry mouth, medications seem to be the number one cause for dry mouth. 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Harvey so you bought a Radio Station.  magic yeah. You got a request, just call in. I take all requests. So your m. O. Was to eventually really invest in the inner city. Yeah, yeah. You had trouble finding investors. Exactly. Nobody at that time wanted to invest in urban america, inner cities because . Because they thought they couldnt make money, you know, in black america. You know, when i started Magic Johnson theaters, the first theater came in the topten highest grossing theaters in the nation, proved people wrong. You got popcorn shrimp, chicken. crowd cheering . French fries, and some hot sauce. You talk about knowing your demo. Thats right. And i love the way you viewed your starbucks investments, that you didnt wanna do an ordinary starbucks. Thats right, thats right, because it wouldnt have worked in my community. Because . Because we dont eat scones. We probably dont know what scones are. So i had to take the scones out of my starbucks, put in sweet potato pie, peach cobbler, things that resonated with the urban red velvet cake. Red velvet cake. Thats right. And then i had to change the music. We were just talking about motown. Because they had elevator music. They had elevator music, so i had to put in motown, and the urban consumer went crazy. It was they loved it. Harvey you know, Howard Schultz talked to shaq about it, and shaq said, black people dont drink coffee. Coffee. And so he passed. Uhhuh. Thanks, shaq. And so the rest is history. We built 125 stores. It was truly amazing. And we made a lot of money. Harvey you also invested in tgi fridays. Magic mmhm.  harvey gotta ask you, favorite thing on the menu. I would say the barbecued chicken is definitely the favorite thing for me. And we were selling a lot of it, too. Chicken and ribs. We were selling out. And you were also able to make a lot of money doing some really good things in the community that was underserved. Exactly. And that must feel great. It feels wonderful. I shouldnt be getting an award for something that i should be doing and that we all should be doing. We all are from the hood. Dont never forget that we are from there. So you invested heavily in urban america, but then you got back into sports in a big way. Head of basketball operations for the lakers. You were an owner of the lakers. Was this about money or l. A. Pride for you . L. A. Pride for sure. The franchises i grew up loving, that i care so much about, my wife told cookie was like, like it was really funny when i told her, well, they want me to run the lakers, you know, on the basketball side. She said, you might as well. Youd be sitting here cursing at the tv every single time theyre on, so now you can really do something about it. And so ive never told anybody that, so that was really funny, so i said, im gonna jump in there, honey. So thats what happened. God is so good, and i know that because im standing here, a dodger owner. Wow. Harvey so why the dodgers . You couldve bought another team. Why the dodgers . Im a big baseball fan, grew up a tiger fan, of course detroit tiger fan, so when this opportunity came, it was a great marriage for us to come together, to buy the dodgers. Weve been number one in attendance since weve owned the team, the dodgers fans are happy. Weve invested in the stadium. So the Fan Experience is a lot better than it was, and the team is a lot better. I have the best life we were leaving, cookie and i were driving from the staples center, and i looked at her and said, can you imagine two kids from michigan met on the campus broke, and i looked at her, i said, isnt this something . Were sitting here, just left the team that im the president of. Two weeks later the team that we own is about to open up against the giants. Mls, the new soccer team, lafc, that we invested in, and i said, this is how are you and i. Its just crazy. So what a life we have. And were just blessed, man. I heard there were athletes coming to you asking if elisa was single. Yes, its very true. Has she done it . No. That you know of. Yeah, exac that you know of. Here i go again on my own goin down the only road ive ever known like a drifter i was born to walk alone . Barb you left me hangin on the high harmony there. If you ride, you get it. Geico motorcycle. 15 minutes could save you 15 or more. Theres a company thats talked than me jd power. People 448,134 to be exact. They answered 410 questions in 8 categories about vehicle quality. And when they were done, chevy earned more j. D. Power quality awards across cars, trucks and suvs than any other brand over the last four years. So on behalf of chevrolet, i want to say thank you, real people. Youre welcome. Were gonna need a bigger room. To the wait did frowe just winners. Prouders everyone uses their phone differently. Thats why Xfinity Mobile lets you design your own data. Now you can share it between lines. Mix with unlimited, and switch it up at anytime so you only pay for what you need. Its a different kind of Wireless Network designed to save you money. Save up to 400 a year on your wireless bill. Plus get 250 back when you buy a new samsung note. Click, call or visit a store today. Well, i kind of know what that is. A bible. Whats the significance. I grew up in the church, and cookie and i were just blessed to have bishop blake as our bishop west angeles is our church. We go to church every sunday, and its been a real blessing. Wanna take you back. You and cookie go back to msu. What attracted you to her . Cookie was walking one day and just had some jeans on that i just had to find out harvey, who is in those jeans . Right . And so i met her, and i found out she was different. Because i wanted to marry somebody like my mother. And sure enough i got a woman just like my mother. She cares about people. She has a big heart. Shes a caretaker so she takes care of me, ej, elisa, and andre, and she never wanted the spotlight. There was a point where you two broke up. Tell me if this is right cause i read this, that the deal was she couldnt see other guys, but you could date other women. Yeah, that howd you get that deal . Well, i thought i had that deal, but it didnt come out to be true. I saw her. I got a call. Cookies going out with somebody. I said, what . I was speechless and breathless and mad and disappointed and couldnt believe it, all rolled into one. And that told me i better get on top of my job cause the woman that i really care about, i might have had fun with a lot of women, but i didnt care about them. I care about this woman. And so that changed everything for us. It really made me have to Pay Attention to her, get back on my game with her. Lets talk about ej. There were signs that he was growing up different from what you expected.  magic right. He was wearing Disney Princess dresses in preschool. Yeah. How did you react to that . It was difficult in the beginning because i thought he would play sports and do the things that i did, like his dad, and then to see him in dresses but also wigs. So i said, okay, is this is who he is or this is some play phase. Play dress up . Right . Yeah. And so then we got him into sports, and he hated it. He hated everything he played. Right . I said, okay. So then it came a time toward high school that cookie was like, you know, you better have this conversation with him. I already know, but you need to know. And then he just came and told me, you know, that he was gay, and i had already seen the signs, and i said, hey, listen. The only thing i want for you is to be happy. Right . And be safe. Thats the only thing i want. So im good. Im gonna love you no matter what. Harvey and hes achieved a lot.  magic achieved a lot. In a very short time. And hes his own person. We go to events together. This is whats really weird. We come down the line now, oh, we want ej by himself and youre pushed to the side. Ej ej ej what im the dad. Whats it took me a long time to get used to that. But im so proud of him. And cookie just she nudged me and said, look it. You two are just alike. Now, andre worked for you for a long time. He became a big part of your company. Magic andre worked for me and still we do things together. And actually he negotiated the laker buyout, you know, cause i wanted to give him some experience. And then my baby, elisa, thats my heart. Harvey yeah, i can tell.  magic yeah. Harvey i heard that there were athletes coming to you asking if elisa was single. laughing thanks a lot oh, man. I think this is true. Yes, its very true. How do you feel about her dating an athlete . Oh, my goodness. Thank you, harvey, for putting this out here. I was so upset. Im like, wait a minute, not my baby. No has she done it . No. That you know of. Yeah, exac stay away from my team. Stay away from them. Because i would hate one of them to break your heart. Then i gotta break his back or his neck. I gotta cut you now. You were the target of a racist rant by donald sterling. He didnt want you or other black people going to the clippers games. When you first heard that, what was your reaction . sighs brad, ive gotreaction . An idea for a song. Nationwide has this app. You can pay your bills, even start an auto claim. So what i was thinking. Let me guess. Start a claim right from your app. Have you been looking in my notes . [ text notification now that you have] new dr. Scholls massaging gel advanced insoles with softer, bouncier gel waves, youll move over 10 more than before. Dr. Scholls. Born to move. Sleep number 360 smart bed. 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And there was only one patient, only one person staying there. And i was up in arms. I said, why isnt this thing full . Theres all these people who i just got a chance to speak to, and they need a place to stay. Well, they have to have this certificate. I said, what kind of sense does that make, that they, what, that gonna have to go apply, and it takes them how much time . They said, well, sometimes years. I said, oh, this is this is not for me. I quit right then and there. I cried. So you thought you could do more good on the outside than working on the inside. Exactly. And you did. I did. So i went and formed the Magic Johnson foundation, and we started raising money for hiv and aids organizations across the country. We started partnering with great hiv and aids organizations all across the country and giving them money that they couldnt raise themself. So that they could take care of people who are living with hiv and aids, buying their drugs for them, on and on and on. We continue to care for people with hiv and aids. Weve already given out over 15 million to different hiv and aids organizations. I want to talk to you about all the work you do in the inner city, all over the country. We are sitting here in this beautiful home in this amazing area, and yet you have this deep connection to your past, to a city, to a portion of the city that isnt yours anymore, but you keep it yours. Yes. And a lot of people dont do that. Ive never forgotten where i came from, and i never will. I was once one of them. I went to be hungry at night. I know what that feels like. I understand, uh, racism. I understand being discriminated against in a different way when i was growing up. So ima always go and try to help and give back. To try to help somebody advance their life. Help their family. When i think about my journey in life, its not gonna be about this. Its not gonna be im not gonna be remembered for this home or what cookie and i have built here. Ima be remembered by how many lives ive saved and touched, right . And so, i want ive been blessed, and cookie and i have been blessed. But we want to bless other people. You were the target of a racist rant by donald sterling. When you first heard that, what was your reaction . Ii was just blown away. Ive been to his house for his annual malibu party two or three times. And he never. Treated me like that, right . And you called me and said, this is about to come out. I said, what . I cant believe him. You know, to to say that about me and didnt want me at the game, so i said, hey, okay. You dont want me at the clipper game, im fine with that. First of all, im not a clipper fan anyway. Im a laker. Thats not exactly the point. Yes, it isnt. But what bothered me was basically youre saying you dont want any black people at a clipper game or latinos at a clipper game, but you want us to make you money. You want us to be on your team to fill the arena. When we broke the story on tmz, when i spoke to you before we put it up, i remember it was almost like a slow boil. That you almost had trouble processing it. Yeah. And then as the day went on and the reaction came in, i felt you got angrier and angrier. Exactly. I did. And then i called doc rivers, his coach, and i called chris paul, i talked to him. I said, this is the guy that youre playing for. He really dont want you, but its almost like a slave mentality. And so im glad that commissioner silver did a wonderful job of jumping on top of that. Effective immediately, i am banning mr. Sterling. For life. Im glad he had to lose his franchise because its, you know, you cant treat people that way or say things about people and dont think that nothing wont happen. Im a person who love people, no matter what their race is, no matter what their gender is. I just love people. And then theres other people in this country just driving racism. It just it just makes me upset. And its too bad that we still have to deal with that. Well, i will say, for my part, there are few people in my lifetime i admire more than you, and i am honored to have been able to sit with you and do this interview. And this is really unique and special, so thank you. Right back at you. Thanks. Youre gonna make me cry up in here. laughter [ cheering ] the original hoop dream. These really are the rules here 1891, james naismith. Granddads signature. Incredible. One familys heirloom. You think your greatgrandfather could ever envision that the game he developed could be what it is today . Goes on one wild ride. He starts looking around and thinks, oh, my goodness. Where are the rules . No. Its a National Treasure with a big price tag. You paid more than the emancipation proclamation. Yeah, well. [ door creaks ] [ wind howls ] [ thunder rumbles ] [ bird caws ]

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