Think his words today, this is the last chance. And nobody should doubt my word. That sounds like a red line to me. Sounds like a red line to me too. [laughter] you know, in a way this is not unusual. This deal is not a treaty, but in treaties often theres a provision for a 90day or 180day notice of withdrawal. That, in effect, is what he served today. Because the idea that congress and europe can somehow change the teal in a way that satisfies the president s concerns is simply not going to happen. Theres a small complication here. Iran is part of the deal, and they have to agree to it. Believe me, theyre not going to do it. Paul no. Theyve already said theyre not going to have anything to do with the renegotiation. Theyll be backed up by russia and china, so the pressure will be on europe to try to come to some accommodation with us. But i dont see them really being eager to do that, because theyre doing a lot of business with their companies are doing a lot of business in iran now. Well, precisely, and that was what the ayatollahs and the Obama Administration understood when they were crafting this deal, that if they could entice europe in particular into more trade and investment with iran, it would make it much more difficult to terminate the deal. But from the american perspective, i think the president has to say that this deal remains a strategic mistake for the united states, it was a bad deal when we entered into it, its a bad deal today. We should get out of it. I think theres been far too much debate over whether iran is in violation of the deal. Technically, id be happy to argue that point. But when george w. Bush withdrew from the 1972 treaty prohibiting National Missile defense, he didnt do it because the russians were violating that treaty, he did it because it was in our strategic interest to do it. Trump has to emphasize that and explain it more. Paul well, but if the europeans do not come to some agreement with us, what happens then . What does the president do . I would argue hes now committed. Hes got to pull the trigger on this, or his credibility will be shattered. He has to reimpose the sanctions or his credibility will be shattered over the next three years. Yeah. Well, i think one reason the europeans are so upset by the prospect of american sanctions coming back into force is that a lot of the technology and products they want to sell to iran is american. And their European Companies have it on license from american firms. So if our sanctions remove that technology from trade with iran, theyre not going to sell any airbuses among other things because theres too much American Technology in there. Paul so you think that might drive them enough to the table to cut a deal with us. Okay, lets say they cut a deal with us, then iran says no, all right . And they go about what do they do . I mean, i think iran probably stays in the agreement rather than rush to a nuclear deal. What would you, what do you think . Sure. Why should they change the agreement . Theyre getting everything they want and more, and theyll wait to see what we do. But thats what really is foolish about the whole notion that somehow congress is going to fix the deal. Congress can amend the corkercarden legislation which was a mistake to begin with, but were negotiating with congress. Itd actually be easier to negotiate with iran. The fact is that as long as iran can hold out economic prospects to the europeans or others particularly russia and china theyll continue along. Theyd be happy to pin us with withdrawing from the deal. I think thats a trivial propaganda point when you compare it against our Strategic Interests and irans continued progress toward deliverable Nuclear Weapons. Paul so the smart play would be to try to divide us from u. K. , france and germany and say were going to take your money, come on in, the waters fine, business investment, great. They need that investment in iran, obviously, in the wake of the protests to satisfy their population. You think thats the way theyll go . I think theyll try that, but i think the europeans are going to be hardpressed to do very much if the choice is do business with iran or with the united states. Paul okay. So you think this is a smart play by trump. It would have been a smarter thing to do on january 20, 2017, because theyll now have 16 months in total by may of sheltering under this deal. Now, a fair question, boris johnson, the foreign secretary of great britain, said, well, whats the alternative policy. And we now have an answer to that. The they were policy is regime change in iran. The people rose at the end of december. That protest is over, but they crossed a red line in iran too by calling for the death of the ayatollah khamenei, for the overthrow of the regime itself. Widespread across iran. I think this regime is weak. Paul okay. I agree with you, but how do you reform a coalition if youre trump to make that happen . Right. Well, that is the one advantage i can see of this, in effect, 120notice of withdrawal. You go to the europeans, you go to others, our arab friends in the middle east, israel and say this is happening, you know as well as we do theres no fix to this deal, now lets figure out how to try and get the band back together and move forward. I dont underestimate the problems, but hes got now 120 days to do it. Paul thats going to be a very difficults task diplomatically, given the way donald trump is viewed in the world. Well, my take on the arab countries of the region is they understand what is driving the united states. They dont want iran to have Nuclear Weapons any more than we do paul right. Or israel does. And i think they understand that the north korea is a major factor here. North korea is very close to crossing the finish line to getting deliverable Nuclear Weapons, and whatever technology they have iran could have the next day. So this threat is becoming more imminent. And honestly, our european friends have to wake up to that too. Paul well, its going to be a wild 120 days as we see this diplomacy going. Rex tillerson and h. R. Mcmaster have their hands full. Thank you, john bolton. Thank you, paul. Paul when we come back, President Trump complicating efforts to reach a bipartisan agreement on immigration, so is a deal with democrats still possible . I thought that we might get a bipartisan agreement approved by the white house. Died yesterday. If youre 65 or older, you may be at increased risk for Pneumococcal Pneumonia that can take you out of the game for weeks, even if youre healthy. Pneumococcal pneumonia is a potentially serious bacterial lung disease that in severe cases can lead to hospitalization. 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Paul President Trump complicating efforts to reach a deal on immigration late this week after he reportedly use an expletive to describe certain is countries in a closeddoor meeting with law makers. Thursdays outburst came just days after a bipartisan gathering where the president struck a decidedly different tone calling for compromise on an issue that has divided the parties for more than a decade. Weve been talking about daca for a long time. Ive been hearing about it for years, long before i decided to go into this particular line of work. And maybe we can do something. I feel having the democrats in with us is absolutely vital, because this should be a bipartisan bill. This should be a bill of love, truly, it should be a bill of love. And we can do this. So im appealing to everyone in the room to put the country before party and to sit down and negotiate and to compromise, and lets see if we can get something done. Paul lets bring in wall street journal columnist and Deputy Editor dan henninger, columnist kim strassel and Editorial Board member alicia finley. So, dan, where are we here at the end of the week after the love fest there earlier in the week, and then weve got this controversy over the president s words or on haiti and other countries . Yeah. Weve just been through another week of Donald Trumps magical mystery tours. [laughter] tuesday the clip you sew. Ed you showed was the good trump saying hes going to produce a bill of love, and later in the week the meeting with the senators, expletive deleted, that was the bad trump. And throws the negotiations somewhat up in the air. But i think we can identify the terms of an agreement if theres going to be one. There has to be something done for the dreamers either with or to without legal path to citizenship paul thats about 800,000, give or take a couple hundred thousand. The president s insisting that a wall of some sort be built. Thats whats known as Border Security. They want to do something about chain migration, the idea that people who come in here can bring their relatives in. They want a modification of that. And they want a modification of the visa lottery system which allows people to be given visas from underrepresented countries, which was kind of at the center of what trump was talking about when he expletive deleted which countries he wants included paul all right, those are the outlines of the deal. The president tweeted late in the week after the reports that he used it, he said the language used by me at the daca meeting was tough, but this was not the language used. What was really tough was the outlandish proposal made, a big setback for daca. Hes talking about the proposal made by the senate democrats, alicia. Is this going to be, you think his comments are a passing storm, and theyll all get back to focusing on this compromise . I think what weve found is over time that most of trumps tweets eventually blow over, it just depends how quickly. And i think some on the left will be tempted to use this to try to block a deal. The people or the democrats really dont want a deal, want to bludgeon republicans through the election on this. Theyll use this to, as a cudgel. Paul and you think, where does the split among the democrats between those you described and those who actually really do want to do something about these people . Lets face it. If we dont get a deal on this, theyre in legal limbo. Notwithstanding a court order this week that temporarily said that it has to be in force to stay here. I think thats going to go away eventually, so these young adults will be in trouble. Right. This is a humanitarian issue. These kids would end up or young adults would end up being sent back to a country which they may not even speak spanish, they may not know anyone there paul because they came when they were 4 or 5. When they were 4 or 5, and they dont have any family, and this is really going to test the sinner thety of democrats sincerity of chuck schumer, dick durbin, nancy pelosi and whether theyll come together to compromise. What has eluded democrats and republicans has been compromise. Paul they want to use it as a political eshoo. Kim, lets talk about the debate on the republican side, because as soon as the president gave his comments about we need to do something about daca, even with the terms and Border Security that he set, a lot of people on his right flank said, wait a minute, you know, sellout. Donald j. Trump, the j. Stands for jeb, as in jeb bush. This is betrayal. The betrayal caucus came out. How is this going to complicate things . Amnesty, am necessary i think. [laughter] amnesty. Yes. Look, this is going to be one of the real tests of whether it gets done. Theres a lot of talk about how the left would like to use this as an issue, but there is a determined flank on the right that for them any changes in the immigration system, anything whatsoever and even the dreamers amount to amnesty. And theyre going to be putting a lot of those people, by the way, are Donald Trumps base. So theyre going to be putting a lot of pressure on him not to go there. The test again is can they get across the point that this is a much more targeted and smaller compromise that everyone is talking about that will end up, if it passes, with a lot of priorities that donald trump had promised that base, and there is something in this for everyone. But the right at the moment is determined to make sure, the far right, that this does not happen. Paul and trump said ill take the heat. Well, okay, then take the heat. Do the deal and take the heat. But he seems to be bending a little bit under pressure from the right. And i think kim is right, theres a basis here for a deal. Most americans want something done on immigration, and certainly something done on the dreamers. And i think the big question here in the coming week is going to be which party snaps first. Which party starts breaking down and fighting internally and saying we wont go there, because i think whether its the democrats or the republicans, the party that causes this bill to fail is the one thats going to take the political blame. Paul and if donald trump gets a deal, alicia, he can say, you know what . I solved a problem that george w. Bush and barack obama couldnt solve. I think this is a big political winner for him. He can show he brought a bipartisan deal, brought republicans and democrats together, and they wont be able to use it. Again, democrats wont be able to use it against him in the next election. Paul all right, thank you all. When we come back, fallout this week from Michael Wolffs explosive, if dubious, new book on the trump white house. So is talk of removing the president through the 25th amendment as come as wolff claims . Well tell you what the people around the president really say next. Coaching means making tough choices. Jim youre in but when you have high Blood Pressure and need Cold Medicine that works fast, the choice is simple. Coricidin hbp is the 1 brand that gives powerful cold symptom relief without raising your Blood Pressure. Coricidin hbp. Its a like, a dagger . A worm a tiny sword . Bread. Breadstick . A matchstick a lamppost coin slot no . Uhhh. 10 seconds. A stick a Walking Stick eiffel tower, Mount Kilimanjaro ding time sorry, its a tandem bicycle. What . What . as long as sloths are slow, you can count on geico saving folks money. Fifteen minutes could save you fifteen percent or more on car insurance. Paul steve bannon stepped down this k as executive chairman of Breitbart News following a public fallout with the white house over critical comments he made about President Trump and members of his family in Michael Wolffs new book, fire and fury. That book also reopening the debate over the president s fitness for office with wolff claiming that talk of using the 25th amendment which would allow the president s cabinet to remove him from office is a concept that is, quote, alive every day in the white house. Were back with dan henninger, kim strassel and bill mcgurn. Bill, lets step back after a week of reporting about this wolff book. What do we hi the fallout ultimately has been think the fallout ultimately has been . I think actually apart from his specific allegations in the book, its a reflection of the reality of the First Six Months or so of the Trump Administration. Just kind of no one in charge, a reporter wandering around [laughter] talking to people off the record paul hey, can i stop in. In some ways its a real tribute to general kelly, i think, you know, if you look. So much centers on paul hes the new chief of staff who came after that six months. And right when he came in, steve bannon challenged him by calling up a reporter on the record and trashing his colleagues. So in some ways i think the more interesting story is what came after, but i think its part and parcel of what we had in the first few months, no one really people sniping at each other. Again, i dont know if hes accurate in all of it, theres a lot of questions paul im sure that a lot of it is not accurate. Right, right. But it reflects a time in the Trump Administration. Paul okay. This dan, lets step back. We talked about this 25th amendment. There are a lot of people who, for their own reasons or sincere views or politically motivated views, are saying trump is unfit for Office Despite the election, and we need to invoke this 25th amendment. Isnt that, basically, a fantasy . Its ludicrous, its absurd, its pointless to talk about it. 25th amendment was enacted in 1965 led by senator birch bayh in light of the jfk assassination. They werent clear whether bj was alive or not lbj was alive or not, he wanted to get established if the president was physically incapacitated. His chief of staff at the time, jay berman, said it has no application whatsoever to donald trump right now. If youre going to do something with trump, that would be impeachment. Paul that is in the constitution. That is in the constitution. Paul for the political process for doing that. Yeah. I think its a stocking horse for impeachment. I agree with dan, the actual invocation of the 25th amendment doesnt apply, its ridiculous. But it shows the fever to get rid of donald trump. And in this election, this is something that he has to take paul the 2018 election. 2018, i just saw a pew poll, quinnipiac, and it said the advantage was 17 points in congress. Paul wow. Thats unheard of. I think its clear if theres a democratic house, he will be impeached. So he has a vested interest in not seeing his party decimated at the impeachment requires a majority vote in the house. Right. Done deal if they take it back. Paul twothirds in the senate to oust but to beat, you only need a majority vote in the house of representatives. In the house. Paul kim, lets talk about this issue of fitness for office, and i ask this because its clear the white house took some of this seriously in the sense that they then rolled out the president to meet with congressional leaders this week about immigration. And they have an onair tv discussion for nearly an hour led by the president where instead of, you know, having a two minute clip and then going behind closed doors, they were negotiating in public. And the president i think the white house wanted the president to do that to show, in fact, that, look, he can lead, he can negotiate, and hes very much in charge. Yeah. It was a very smart call on their part because he did look as though he was confident sitting there leading negotiations. The democrats looked utterly confused by what was going on in this entire hour that they were sitting there. But this is you talk to people within the white house, yes, if youve gone to work for donald trump, you have taken onboard that he is an unusual president who does not follow norms. But the idea that there is this active, aggressive conversation going on every day about how you get rid of him, its that is also just pure fantasy. So they have a challenge right now in trying to change the perception that is out there, but it isnt as if there is some personal coup going on at the moment for everyone to get rid of donald trump. Paul the phrase that i often hear, dan, and you wrote about this week, you said trump proves hes sane, what i hear from the people who work for trump, hes a difficult client. Thats a quote ive heard more than once. Hes volatile, hes impulsive, he changes his mind. He doesnt have a lot of fixed north stars, so he can be bounced around. Thats a very difficult person to advise. But the madness of king donald, what do you make of that . Well, as i i think bills right, its a stocking horse for trying to just push trump out of office. But, look, weve been through a year with donald trump, and theyve passed a major tax reform bill. Theyve passed a whole host of deregulatory moves across various industries, energy and so forth, appointed judges, appointed a Supreme Court judge. Look, you can agree or disagree with all of that. As a liberal, you could say i would have resisted every one of those things, and i hate donald trump. That is not grounds for impeaching this president on the basis of his mental capacity. We should get back to real politics. Paul yeah. Even if you want to get rid of trump or check him or whatever you do, lets let the normal political process work, right . Its called elections right. Well, so much of today is about not letting the normal whether it comes to congressional investigations or investigations of the president or impeachment. Everyone wants to go around, you know, make an end run around the usual process. Paul all right, thank you. Still ahead, senator Dianne Feinstein releases the transcript of a congressional interview with the cofounder behind the antitrump dossier. So did we learn anything new about alleged trump column run collusion, and will the collusion,how do you win at business . Stay at la quinta. 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The transcripts release comes amid reports that Robert Muellers team would seek to interview the president in the next several weeks, something mr. Trump refused to commit to this week. Well see what happens. I mean, certainly, ill see what happens. When they have no collusion and nobodys found any collusion at any level, it seems unlikely that youd even have an interview. Paul were back with dan henninger, kim strassel and bill mcgurn. All right, kim, so you have slogged through all 300 pages of that Glenn Simpson transcript. What did whats the biggest takeaway that you have . The biggest takeaway is that even mr. Simpson is not able to corroborate anything in his dossier, and that came out very clearly as he was grilled by the Senate Judiciary committee. Basically, this was his attempt to paint his motives for putting this together in a good light, to sort of buck up his credibility and that of Christopher Steele who was the actual author of the dossier. But we dont come out of this necessarily with any greater insight into Donald Trumps actions during the election year. Paul okay. In the transcript itself, did Glenn Simpson get the story straight about what triggered the fbis interest in the trump russian ties . No. And, look, by the way, he had to issue a correction. He came out, and he got everybody excited. The press was all over it saying when they turned in this dossier, they were simply back up information that the fbi already had from an internal source within the trump camp paul thats what he said. If that were true, it would be huge. Paul thats what he said in the august transcript. Yes, in the august transcript. Paul okay. Then after that came out, the transcript came out, the media goes wild saying, look, someone within team trump was telling the fbi the same thing. Then we get a simpson correction saying, no, thats not really what i meant. I meant that australian diplomat that had tipped off the pbi about that fbi about that campaign aide, george papadopoulos. The point is, we do not have any evidence of an internal trump person talking to the fbi. Paul okay. Bill, meanwhile, the House Intelligence Committee had struck a deal finally late last week with the fbi director, christopher wray, and with deputy a. G. Rod rosenstein to turn over documents that theyd been seeking for a long time and that those gentlemen had been resisting turning over. What are we likely this is important, right . Right. Paul what are we going to learn from these documents . Well, were going to learn about this investigation. Isnt it interesting that we want this investigation into donald trump and russia, but no one wants to see what the investigations telling us . I mean, the only information we really have so far is the steele dossier which is sort of the Rosetta Stone for this. Now, i know a lot of people accuse fusion, say, well, its a piece of opposition research. Im more interested to know is it true or is it false. I think director comey said it was salacious and unverified a few months ago, and i think assistant director mccabe, the reports are that he testified only to clarence pages trip to moscow paul that was the only thing that he publicly verified. So the question is, i mean, the question is and so many people dont seem to want to know the answer. Was this used in fisa warrants to spy on members of a president ial campaign team, and was it used knowing the information was unverified . How did the fbi present this. So i think we need to know these answers. Congress is the appropriate place to get these answers, you know, and get them out in public. So they have the documents now. Theyre going to interview only only some of these fbi some of these fbi witnesses under cote oath, but the public is still largely in the dark. Paul yeah, dan, i think this would be a very big deal that if, in fact, a piece of disinformation if thats what this turns out to be ended up motivating a warrant for spying on a member of a president ial campaign . Yeah, i think you put your finger on it. It may, indeed, be misinformation. Theres kind of a spy versus spy thing going on here between the russian intelligence services, i think, and the American Security service. And i think the American Security service, especially the fbi, have gotten themselves to a point where they were humiliated by the way the russians were using this disinformation, and that is what they dont want paul so you think theyd be embarrassed by i think theyd be tremendously embarrassed if any of this came out. But the American People are wondering whats going on inside this hall of mirrors. Its gone beyond a simple question of institutional confidence. And to dan and kims point, Christopher Steele, i mean, he was briefing reporters, but hes so reluctant to talk to congress. If this stuff is true in what he found, shouldnt he want to set the record straight and explain it . Thats whats so troubling. Paul kim, what about the likelihood that these documents that the House Intelligence Committee now has are going to become public at some stage . Do you think thats likely to happen . I think its highly likely, because thats what everyone is now understanding, is that the spin out there has become monumental for those who support the dossier, speculations, outright claims that its true when theres no evidence that it is. Republicans worried about the fbi motives. People are coming to understand that the only way you get answers to these questions is to just put it out there for the mix to see. So for the public to see. You know, be nice to think that the white house would step in here and declassify. Its probably not likely because theyre worried about mueller and his investigation. But watch to see if congress doesnt exercise its authority to declassify. Paul all right, thank you all. When we come back, democratic governors in hightax states are scrambling to preserve state and local deductions for their residents as the gop tax overhaul kicks in, but will their strategies work . Copd makes it hard to breathe. So to breathe better, i go with anoro. Go your own way copd tries to say, go this way. I say, ill go my own way with anoro. Go your own way oncedaily anoro contains two medicines called bronchodilators, that Work Together to significantly improve lung function all day and all night. Anoro is not for asthma. It contains a type of medicine that increases risk of death in people with asthma. The risk is unknown in copd. Anoro wont replace rescue inhalers for sudden symptoms and should not be used more than once a day. 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Paul scott hodge is president of the tax foundation. Welcome back, scott, good to see you. Thanks, paul. Pa. Paul the lets talk, basically the states that are mainly affected are the states with really high income tax rates; new york city, 12. 7 , state and local combined, california, 13. 3, some others. So lets think through the responses theyre making. First of all, theres a threat of a lawsuit that theyre going to say that this tax bill is illegal, unconstitutional because it discriminates against certain states. How do you see that playing out . Well, its kind of ironic that theyre complaining about this when there are already provisions in the tax code that limit the state and local tax deduction. One is the alternative minimum tax which is created by democrats. The other is the limitation which limits or actually scales back your itemized deductions for high income people. That was also created by an ohio democrat. So there are already provisions there that do discriminate against hightax states, but this is, obviously, directly hitting their highest income people. Essentially, their donors, and i think thats why theyre complaining the most. Paul but basically the tax bill, the provisions of the tax bill treat all states alike. I mean, every state faces it equalizes, yes. It really levels the playing field, which is great. Paul right, at the federal level. The difference is state law. So theres no discrimination at the federal law, its a state law which they can change. Right. Sure, and theyre welcome to try these schemes, but they really are [laughter] theres a great irony here. You have people who were once decrying the tax reform bill now coming up with these ruin goldberg type Rube Goldberg type schemes to benefit the wealthiest by giving them a e duction that was taken away from them in the tax bill. Paul first, what theyre talking about in california in particular which is the new charitable deduction so that if youre a california resident, the state will give you a dollarfordollar deduction as a charitable contribution to defray any increased federal taxes. What to you make of that . Its probably illegal. The whole purpose of charity, or one of the principles of charity is that that Charitable Gift cannot materially benefit or financially benefit the giver. And this clearly would. Its really a scheme, a tax payment by any other way. And a lot of Court Decisions have actually upheld this principle that a Charitable Gift cant financially benefit the giver. This clearly does, i think itd be thrown out by the courts. Paul and would the irs approve it . No. Paul theyd have to make a judgment op an individual basis for it to go through. Theyve won decisions on this basis before, so i think they would challenge it, and theyd win. Paul all right. Now, lets take the other proposal that weve heard a lot about which is the payroll tax change. So andrew cuomo says well rely less on income tax rates, and well substitute it by imposing a new, higher payroll tax that the companies would pay in the state. Employers would pay in the states to compensate for it. Does this make sense to you . Well, they states are certainly allowed to create a payroll tax, but unless they fully eliminate the state personal income tax, they would essentially have employers paying your income tax. Which the irs would see as income to you. If a third party pays your income taxes, thats really income on your behalf. And so it would actually increase the tax burden on working new yorkers. So that probably wouldnt fly, and i doubt that most employers would want to pay higher payroll taxes on behalf of their employees. There are a lot of mechanical problems with this too, and trying to create how do you create a progressive payroll tax . Thats very, very challenging. Paul well, and if youre an employer and the payroll tax goes up on any individual employee, youre either going to have to absorb that higher cost, or youre going to have to reduce the compensation to the employee. Sure. Paul now, i dont know a lot of employees who would sit well with a company saying to them, you know what . Were going to have to reduce your compensation by 5, 7, 10 because of this tax law change. Thats going to to be politically difficult as well. Yeah. I think this is really thrashing about, and states are really facing the fact that the federal subsidy has been dramatically limited for their tax and spend policies, and they are going to have to get in line. They are going to have to control themselves. They can no longer shift a lot of their burden off to washington with, and theyre going to have to compete equally to other states. Especially the lowtax states like texas and florida and others that dont have an income tax. Paul so the simple solution here is cut your tax rates. Yes. Paul cut the so that your citizens basically want to stay as opposed to moving at the first opportunity they have to a lowtax environment. It was very telling when Governor Cuomo actually expressed the worry that a lot of these high income people would leave the states. Thats extremely telling that he understands how tax competition works and that people can simply vote with their feet and leave and go to lower tax jurisdictions. Paul okay. Scott hodge, thanks for being here. You bet. Paul still ahead, Oprah Winfreys golden globe speech igniting speculation of a 2020 president ial run. Could the talk show host outtrump the donald . Our panel weighs in next. I dont think shes going to run. I know her very well. Nick was born to move. 3 toddlers wont stop him. And neither will lower back pain. Because at a dr. 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I know her very well. You know, i did one of her last shows. She had donald trump. This was before politics. Her last week, and she had donald trump and my family, it was very nice. So i like oprah. I dont think shes going to run. Paul were back with dan, kim and alicia. I love the look on dick durbins face there [laughter] what do you make of oprah as a plausible candidate . Well, i dont think we should rule anything out after 2016 and trump, because nobody would have thought wed have President Trump at this point. [laughter] but, you know, i think she would, actually, unite the Democratic Base paul really . I think she has brand name recognition on par with donald trump. She has her own tv network, a business that she started and has been very successful. Oprah magazine on. , o magazine on which she has appeared on the cover multiple times, 2. 4 million subscribers. Extremely popular. Paul but would the Democratic Base, dan, tolerate her given that her per sew that is not very id lodge ca and that, basically, the Democratic Party has moved left. What do you to do on singlepayer health care or climate change. Yeah. That raises the largest question, the Democratic Partys identity. Democratic Party Professionals understand that the new base which is so far left really wants Bernie Sanders as their candidate. Bernie happens to be a socialist. Hes not a democrat. Paul and a proud one. [laughter] and a proud one. But thats what they want. And so they are probably going to start attacking oprah, and some of them have already done it from the left saying that shes really like a pal or harvey of harvey weinstein, stuff like that. I think shes going to pull back and let these professionals carve each other up. Paul but alicias point is good, shes likable, shes popular, shes in many ways the emotional opposite of donald trump; that is, shes not divisive. Shes somebody that says cant we all just get along . Ive got a car for you, you know . Theres a sort of good feeling about oprah, and people like to like their president s, believe it or not, or at least we did once. [laughter] they do, but they also look, i think one of the biggest criticisms of donald trump is that he doesnt necessarily have a lot of policy chops on some of the subjects he talks about. [laughter] i think that youd probably get an equal thing in Oprah Winfrey and, in fact, youve already seen some of the potential people that might run on the democratic side Elizabeth Warren coming out to poohpooh the idea saying, you know, we dont need another celebrity president. So that would be one of the measures. Shes also, by the way, got a few controversial things in her past like her views on vaccine or some kind of quack Health Things paul right. Which could come out and dog her as well. Shes not a riskfree candidate in that way. Paul and shed be in a big field, alicia. Who else, Elizabeth Warren is putting the right. Camilla harris, the california senator, kirsten gillibrand, new york senator, cory booker from i mean, Everyone Wants to run because they think President Trump is eminently beatable. Paul so its going to be, its going to be around the block and maybe around the city, the democrats line and its going to be vicious. The mayor of new york city, bill de blasio, is obviously thinking of running. I think we have a kind of survival of the fittest. Some of these margin allocates are in because they think the the big candidates are going to start or knifing themselves in the back, and its going to be the last person standing for the nomination. Paul well, and this is also what happened, by the way, in 2016, because everyone assumed donald trump would fade away. So you had a lot of margin allocates or a lot of people got in, nonetheless, trump rose to the top. I wouldnt discount oprah. Paul it may be that she has, oprah would have a Little Shield from the ideological attacks because people would say, well, thats not her. Thats not why we like her. Again, i think shes almost another obama. She could rise above all the animosity. Paul all right. We have to take one more break. When we come back, hits and misses of the week. Before i had the shooting, burning, pinsandneedles of diabetic nerve pain, these feet. Grew into a freewheeling kid. Loved every step of fatherhood. And made old cars good as new. But i couldnt bear my diabetic nerve pain any longer. So i talked to my doctor and he prescribed lyrica. Nerve damage from diabetes causes diabetic nerve pain. Lyrica is fda approved to treat this pain, from moderate to even severe diabetic nerve pain. Lyrica may cause serious allergic reactions, suicidal thoughts or actions. 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