Interesting, here we are, im currently preparing a lot for a conversation with you, i listen to podcasts so much, but i started, i listened to a lot of things that ive never heard, for example, i listened to gogols mustache, where standup artists talk about books, i listened to ukrlit, yes, where comedians talk about literature, and i see that this is a new language, invent. A new language that can be spoken, thats what my generation didnt have at all, because before us they talked about literature as something very not given to everyone, yes, very kind of high, and about which three things must be talked about so a little quietly and very much with great respect, here people just walk in, and just open the door with their feet, so to hamlet, and they just very. Very simple such and such slang, this is how they talk about literature, how do you perceive it, how do you are you listening i perceive it very positively, it seems to me that this formality, which was imposed on us, is catastrophic, as soon as a conditional virtual chorus starts to sound from behind, you have to stand out, then wear a very long skirt, then immediately something is not okay, and i think its cool that people from. Are entering this new language, that this language is different, that its accessible, and i, as an editor, am constantly asked by Young Authors whether it is possible to scribble in the texts, i say yes, please, let me give some examples so that they understood that all this is possible, that we will have more registers, we will have even more opticians, we will have even more different views, then this will be a more interesting project, and i like it, i like it very much when new people come, who are not professional literary critics who are not mine. And it especially pleases me when some very youthful, teenage initiatives appear, when it takes off in tiktok, when we have a desire not only to steal the rock scene as a star, but also as a tiktok star, and this seems incredibly valuable to me, because t current is now doing literature to a large extent and can sell entire editions, and these are all very different methods, but everything. That works for the benefit of literature, i am for it with both hands, i think that podcasts are generally a very liberal genre and medium, so that even if we take our conversation with you here and now, we are sitting in the studio and the work of an incredibly large number of people behind the scenes is needed for our dialogue with you to materialize, and the viewer is not interested in this, he should not even think about it, he should be comfortable and interesting, and a rookie podcaster, he cant let… he has such a team, but very often he has a smartphone where he can experiment with recording, buy an inexpensive pocket, record a conversation alone or with a friend, edit it and pour it, try it, and how it will work, and you talked about gogols mustache, i know , that they started with two buttonholes, and they recorded the sound of turning the page themselves, it was a very budget product, but later, if success comes, if your language is read by your audience, of course you can afford more experiments, and just me very interesting to watch those projects that are growing, but they keep this very liberal spirit, sometimes they dive into the expert part, they involve literary experts in their projects, again, and there are such incredibly interesting interactions, but there remains this kind of breakdown. Very healthy on the other hand, i really like the cult podcast of Volodymyr Yarmolenko and tetyana ogarkova, and i think that the podcast medium also allowed them to be more liberal in theirs. Conversations, that is, perhaps those things that they cannot afford within the framework lecture courses or books, which they have quite formalized, this is a high shelf, unequivocally, but in the podcast they can allow a certain experiment, which may later also become expressed in an academic form, or maybe not, but there is a thrill from this experiment, which we, as listeners, can simply perceive with our ears, and this will already move our thoughts, and that is why i am very impressed by exactly this freedom that such genres bring. About shakespeare, about shakespeare and about hamlet, where they call hamlet, seems to be san of the beach, and ophelia to be a slut, and this, well, this is actually, its interesting to listen in this highway, and they mention you very often bohdan, they say no, well, its a smart guy , lets not be this smart guy, because its. Rather bohdan, not barak, let him deal with it, they are swimming like this on purpose, yes, they swim on purpose, thats the point, we send greetings to each other in this way, yes, but look, i understand this kind of point of view, and im very close to what it is, what its all about desecralized and deformed and that everyone can say, and im absolutely not a purist, but on the other hand i sometimes listen. Everyone thinks whether we are not simplifying in this way, whether some young person can or cannot hear it in this way, and it is as if it could be a spoiling of taste and optics, when too much of it is driven into very simple such low forms, i think that any good podcast, whether its really raunchy, or whether its more like really high shelf, its. To encourage first of all to read, to watch the source, that is, the main purpose of the podcast, why does everyone make you go and form your own opinion, and i really like it when there is resistance in the audience, for example, to my words or to my position, because i know that if there is resistance, it is means that they will go and look and express their position, so they will argue, they will discuss, maybe they will write a not very pleasant comment on youtube, but they will go, think and form. Their vision, so any good story, any good podcast and conversation, they have to encourage you to go and form your opinion, again, not to impose a readymade matrix, but at school we were imposed one matrix, and now we will impose another matrix, another board, in other words, but the same matrix, and to go and look for good podcasts yourself , they cope with it, even if their position can be undermined, then the very moment of undermining gives rise to an intellectual discussion, but in order for there to be an intellectual discussion and either, for example, something triggers you, or you disagree or disagree with something, yes, you must already know something, and if it is, for example, a very young person who has not read anything, and here she is told in a very simplified form, and she seems to have the feeling that, well, i already know it, i already am, i mean , it can be such an effect, yes, when, when in such a banal plan some stories are told. Are they reflecting on some things, it can also be like this, i think that now is a time when we really feel the importance of curation and the importance of those people who offer us the keys to various doors, such well, lets call them intellectual doors, lets say there are a number of series of classics, and these comments before or after the text are important, where we understand what vira ageeva, Rostyslav Semkiv or yaryna tsymbal will say. Or other literary scholars whom we trust will tell us something about the author and the text. Lets say, im thinking about the figure of Lesya Ukrainka and how a person forms a private relationship with her, or Something Like that, which was rejected by you all the time during school in the School Program, but i hear a lot of such thoughts, well, roughly for my generation its like that ukrainian literature, teachers of ukrainian literature, it was something. That, on the contrary, turned us away from ukrainian literature. I wonder how it is now, whether something has changed at the school, or do you know any of the students from whom i can find out how , for example, Olga Kobylyanska or the same Lesya Ukrainka are studying there . Yes, it has changed, i never refuse to meet with schoolchildren, because it is an opportunity to actually hear what they live, the change of the School Program helped a lot. And how it was reformatted from Junior High School and later, it helped a lot that many modern ukrainian writers were leading, that now they read the fairy tales of halla tkachuk, volodymyr. Arinev, there is tanya stus and other living, real writers who write on current topics, that you can read olga kupriyan, being a teenager, and not to read, as they imagined a teenager in fitka halamitnyka, well, none of the city schoolchildren will be moved by a boy with a cow walking through the field, well, no one is interested in this cow, and it seems to me that such a change in the program and a decrease in the number of benefit of slow careful reading of the text, it works very well. It works at the school level, it works very well involving different formats, films, discussions, discussions, invitations, living writers, talking with them, i think that my School Program was very overloaded, it was necessary constantly read huge volumes and i liked to read well, but it was not easy even for me, and when they chose mathematics between mathematics and literature, because mathematics is more important, it will be needed in life, because it is the exact sciences, and. It was there christomatya is a retelling, if so huge volumes are there, and no one can cope with them, they had to be reduced, and now i see these trends, and when i come to schools, i really like that students very often have their own opinion on this topic, what they can tell me , no, this poem by Taras Hryhorovych is useless, so, so and so, and i really like that they are ready to argue with Taras Hryhorovych, because i, for example, did not have such courage in my 12 years. And they have, so i think that todays youth, they are very critical, they are very demanding, and it is a very good demanding. I i found out, bohdana, that, it turns out, children are currently studying shipmaster yanovsky in the School Program, and i was amazed that how much children like it, that is, it is not a simple book, it is not a simple book by yanovsky, and you dont ask for it, you need it too, regarding understanding. Knowledge of the context is also necessary, but it is on the one hand, on the other hand, it is love, and adventure, and an absolutely certain atmosphere of the romance of the sea, eh, how is it and why, we all the time talk with acquaintances, what can schoolchildren love for ship master yanovsky, for example, in what, in what can there be a secret . I think its quite simple, its adventure, its this flirtation. The sea, its cinema, but also remember the novel itself, theres something that never happened, uh, theres an old cinematographer reminiscing about his youth, and its something about what would we dream for ours, those who were in their 20s, yes, for those who survived, for example, for dovzhenko, his memories were completely different, they were much more bitter, they were. With completely different problems, this is some kind of, i think, a big dream that did not come true with that generation, and the reader still feels it this is the feeling of a dream, and this is a gift that yanovsky left, but it is important for me to Say Something else here, that recently there was a study by piza, which showed that ukrainian schoolchildren do not read very well, and the level of reading skills is falling, after that i communicated with. With the kyiv teacher artur proydakov, who invests a lot in the idea of another reformation of School Education and in particular the approach to reading, and he talks about things that are scary for many, this is, lets say, not a chronological approach, but a thematic approach, and this is a reduction of works that are read, this the opportunity to stop at the texts and read them in full, and not to run through this city in two hours, but to. Try to immerse yourself in, for example, certain types of descriptions that are there, and then watch a video or go for a walk with your class, if you in kyiv, and this is what i dream of, in fact, i wanted it in my own school years, but i am convinced that today it is just extremely necessary for us if we want reading to take place for real, not to imitate reading and. The child had to remember who was in the red shoes, who is in some kind of quilted jacket, and this is apparently enough to pass the test, for the child to do what bohdana just talked about, said what she likes, lets say shevchenkos text, and maybe she doesnt like something at all, well, yes, that is, to learn to read from some work, from some work to learn to read and to think critically, and i, as far as i know, in the west from. America, in america they will study for a long time, for example, shakespeare, they can study some one work there for several semesters shakespeare. Yes, i had such an experience, i taught a course at one large platform. My cultural project for adults, which was called slow reading, close reading, and we didnt read, we read a whole text, and then we read a separate small passage together and tried to apply to the passage all the possible tools that we have, what we studied, what we know from our experience, and it turned out that adults are very interested in this, they are interested in stopping, allowing themselves to be within a paragraph for half an hour and talk about this paragraph, and this is something that they really lacked in school, not individual yes captured details, but to immerse yourself in the fabric of the text and to be with this text in dialogue, i think that at school it should be, to get high, to have time to get high from the text, in particular, and i will finally ask you about the conflict, about the conflict, it is not generational conflict, its rather Something Else, we already talked in this studio with Lyuba Yakymchuk about this. Who prepared such a wall, the Creative Association of moore, and this is a musical called shot, the word you is a romance about the shot dead revival and the shot dead residents of kharkiv house of words, therefore this project, some people talked about it with great enthusiasm and spread and very rich with many epithets. Beautiful, and others were very indignant. For example, halyna kruk, the poet, is wonderful, she said that it is dangerous, she was angered by this project, because, for example, for example, she says that the penis is presented as a pale, pathetic servant who bows before the authorities to become a minister , and Mykhailo Semenko teaches listeners, listeners with a cheap provocation, this is what i am quoting. Now here are actually phrases from this project, and critics of this project called and called its creators kvnschiks and poorly educated people, the creators of this project called, lets say , such critics as naphthalene schoolgirls and there some dinosaurs that do not reach, cannot reach a wide. Audience, this conflict, its all something unavoidable, yes, its absolutely something predictable, do you see, or actually, actually, because actually i m sad too, yes, the way the stream is presented, because its such a massive project, because its the wrong optics about the stream in my opinion, maybe its not right, or its something, what is it anyway, what this is a story with this, with this scandal, the discussion around that romance. I will speak for myself, i had a restrained attitude towards this project, i saw a lot of enthusiastic reviews, but i wrote then that attitudes, because i understand that i am absolutely not the audience of this project, that it should not be directed at me, that this its not my story at all that i read yarina tsymbal or rostislav melnykiv there, or read a lot about our 20s, our Publishing House publishes a whole series of our 20s, and thats why i didnt expect it, they gave me some reasons. Individual musical compositions, sometimes it was very simplified for me, sometimes there were moments that seemed to me to be successful, that is, somewhere something was successful, somewhere something was unsuccessful, but in general, in general, i did not perceive this project as something that should resonate with me or be close to me, for me it is a project that, ideally, should once again prompt us to reread the article, reread semenka, look at and compare semenkas rebellion there and the rebellion there. Find some common ground, i. E. If this has led someone to this process, thats great, but, well, it wont be me, ugh it is clear, yes, but this, it is clear that this is not about our bubble, but the actual claims of galina kruk are that it is a mistake, regarding the current, regarding all these people and so on, what do you say, bagdan, eh, to me actually i liked that this project appeared, and i will explain why, it seems to me, it is very noticeable and symptomatic that such names are becoming part of Popular Culture the other day, a new composition by Volodymyr Dantes was released, and he says something in it, saying that it is better to read from tus , i could not imagine such a few years ago, you were also shocked when this heard, in a pleasant way, i liked it very much, and i can comment on a specific album, you are a romance, analyze. Compositions, but i am not really interested in this, i am interested in Something Else i feel the passionate desire of the people who were involved in the creation of this album. To really answer the question about the testicle, agree, it is not easy, and if to this day there are people who think that the waveman killed his mother, then it means that all these questions, they still scratch our hearts, both readers and just just like us we learn about these figures, so for me the appearance of such an album is rather very positive, because i want us to discuss within ourselves in social networks and in the news, not the details of how ukrainian tabloids are writing about alla pugacheva, or about the news of a russian show business, any others, finally we are arguing about how who interprets the generation of our 20s, i dreamed of living in such a world, our dream is being fulfilled right before our eyes, god, i am downloading dantes album today, listen, thanks, girls , very very interesting. Conversation, i would like to spend a little longer with you to talk, but there is no time anymore, and therefore i thank Bohdana Neborak and bohdana romantsova for this wonderful conversation, thank you to everyone who watched us, who was with us and who will now take up the reading, thank you, see you next week, thank you, vasyls great broadcast in winter, two hours of airtime. Two hours of your time, two hours to learn about the war and how the world lives, two hours to keep up with Economic News and sports news, two hours in the company of your favorite presenters, presenters who have become kind to many, as well as distinguished guests of the studio, events of the day in two oclock, vasyl zimas big broadcast, a project for smart and caring people, at dinner at espresso. Information viruses, almost alive. Creatures that destroyed entire nations and civilizations. 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