Will be able to survive this year without any cataclysms on the front line, this is basically the main thing we are trying to achieve. Valery chaly, ugh, diplomat, former ambassador of ukraine to the United States, we will be in touch now, and we will talk about it with him, because now it is absolutely obvious that you and i are in a situation where the United States, as strange as it sounds, is under pressure from other countries, but today there is the prime minister. Of poland donald tuke addressed the speaker of the house of representatives mike johnson help ukraine, why are you delaying, in principle, however, politically speaking, it should have been the other way around. This is mike johnson, other american politicians should turn to the europeans and say, look, this is your security area, why are you delaying, why arent you allocate enough money, where is your interest . And it turns out that the europeans are now convincing the americans, and this is also some serious change in political orientations, which. Its worth thinking about how much , how much, uh, it could be, well, its also a symptom of the political processes in the United States itself, i think that more than staying in office and getting a corresponding warm seat under the presidency of donald trump, thats the goal of the speaker johnson, because , to be honest, you look at his movements and some strategy of his thinking, and not to the end you understand, he still is. Prefer to be a politician or a statesman . A politician, because it can be very difficult to be a statesman when you are not a politician, here is one and the other, it should not be mutually exclusive at all, but we understand that simply i think that mr. Johnson has before his eyes the experience of his predecessor, ugh, but we will talk about it right now with valery chaly, congratulations, mr. Valery, i congratulate you, glory to ukraine, heroes of words, heroes of words, well. There was this meeting of speaker johnson with republicans in the senate, new proposals for help , he puts forward speaks through the house of representatives , they will vote for them, that it will be a new formula for assistance, credit and lendlis, can you explain to us what, what is meant, well, with all due respect, i just joined, i did not know what you were talking about, but if in which they broke up, mr. Valery exchanged a few words, but look, this same soap opera. Ours has long since turned from a saga into a soap opera, so in principle, i have already talked about it many times for a long time. First, it was known in october and november that such a scenario would follow. Second, those who wanted to hand over the passport to putin, to delay the process, they actually did it for six months, giving him the opportunity to concentrate his efforts in the military plan and. Allowing, well, actually trying to block the supply of weapons, lets say it in plain text, i am not naming names, i am not saying that this was some kind of special agreement, no, it is done in a completely different way, there are political figures in Different Countries who want to give certain signals, to be liked, that is what happened, now, did she give opportunity completely block the supply of weapons, no, the administration . It was predictable, it was known, but they still found the will and mechanisms to give a package of 300 million now, and i will tell you that despite the statement that this is a unique package, it is impossible, i will say frankly , maybe, but of course it will not be the packages that we expect from this, that you asked for the unblocking, now regarding this decision, now i believe that this decision to provide assistance to ukraine. It can now be implemented, now this is what i am saying, they will wait a week, two, three, a month, but well, by the 22nd, before the holidays, it would be logical to finish it already. For johnson, but with such maneuvers they are still delaying time, and in principle, this is an attempt to delay time, in fact, these are all other conversations, the border, other interests there, these are all maneuvers, the main thing here is exactly who performs what role, now there is one more point, the militaryindustrial complex has completed all issues of lobbying its interests, according to my information, well, i cant even see it. With the naked eye from the text itself. Second, the issue of providing us with direct budget assistance the budget of ukraine, it is most likely realized through another option, loans or credits. Minister malyuska actually spoke about this in washington. And the white house, of course, repeatedly rejects such a proposal, but the ukrainian side does not officially reject it. That is, we need this help. Whether it will come now in the form of a direct grant, or if in the worst case , through the option of, well, a loan, but what kind of loan it will be, with what conditions, it is difficult to say , and we return to the issue of lendlease, this is a separate topic, but i believe that remove from it was a mistake on the part of the democrats to bring the issue of lendlease to the table as a negotiating tool, on the part of the ukrainian authorities, not to prompt our partners and. To sign a Bilateral Agreement on lendlease, which would clearly already contain conditions for not necessarily huge payments, but it would be necessary to do this in advance right , and now, now this group will impose the terms of the lease on their own, on their own principles, which donald trump has already voiced in part, they are not the worst, by the way, because he also began to change his rhetoric, say what it can be really. Some kind of loan, well, he said credit loon, which is strange, how is it here loon, well, ok, loon, then there is the question of the condition of its cancellation or return, there donald trump said strange things, he said, if it will be friendly to us the state, maybe it will not give a loan, well, that is, you understand that now this part, most likely money, it will not come as a grant, but militarytechnical assistance, i am sure it will be completely obscene on the part of. Including johnson its already time to hold back, so much so, well , all the benchmarks have already been fulfilled, now all thats left is just to get out of this situation, well , mr. Valery, please tell me, and this package of aid for 300 million, and an additional actually aid decree for 126, for the shortterm perspective, how often can the United States use such a mechanism. Is it single case . I will tell you frankly, i have not checked whether these 126 under the act of 61, which allows the president of the United States to take without the control of congress from the warehouses, whether it is part of 300 million or not, i do not know, it is certain, so most likely, since i see, most likely this is the part that consists of what is listed there. And plus this, if this additional 126 would be great, are there such opportunities in the future, there are funds from those allocated by congress, but they are not covered, there is such a situation, in principle, the position of the official washington now is this, if something is provided from warehouses, funds must be provided in advance for the american industry to produce a replacement, this is not available, so they can theoretically. Can take that step, other countries take such a step, for example, i know for sure, denmark removes from its warehouses what do they need, in fact, what they have calculated for the protection of the country, they are added to us, there are other European Countries that do this, how do they do it, that is, it requires the political will of only the president of the United States in order to still provide, well, of this kind current aid, but in order to really give the right signal to the kremlin. To unblock a large package, it is not only money , 85 of the money remains mainly in america, there are a lot of directions, this is actually a plan of such actions, well, it was for a year, there are other blocks and directions, well, we will not talk about it now , but this is like a whole plan, if it is launched so holistically, it is really a plan to help not only the defense of the country, attempts to deoccupy, well, a return to. Active action, that is why this is the main question, that is why such packages as they are now, they are not will replace the strategic goal of the victory of ukraine, that is, they will not add to it, only turnover. And please tell me, mr. Valery, if we talk about what is happening in europe, you saw this meeting at the level of the weimar triangle, as far as it is possible to consider that between germany and poland no longer, between germany and france already are there not as many disagreements as there have been in recent weeks . Well, there will always be disagreements, its basically competition, i would say healthy competition in a situation where america is a little slack for active actions on the continent. Tried to show such initiatives, there were still leadership initiatives, Emmanuel Macron, his statements are quite so decisive, against the background of several statements of olaf scholz about taurus missiles, of course it looked a little bit like such an imbalance and i think worried the german side, so i think that there these moments these are purely removed. External perception, but it is clear that they are unlikely to finally agree on the basic things, well, to declare what we heard, some please me, and others not so much, because if first there are such french very active statements, and then it is said that so help will be maximum, in conditions where there is german intelligence that russia can attack germany, germany. Nato is already in the nato countries already in 2026, and i would say that, well, it does not take everything into account, i think everything will be earlier, at the end of this, at the beginning next year, because they dont take into account one factor, that russia attacks not when it is strong, but when others are weak, and they wont have time to prepare, so i think they are discussing these positions, in fact, well, besides, these the statement that to prevent escalation under. Which seems to me to be yesterdays speech, i was surprised to hear , based on the results of the meeting, to prevent another escalation, this is some kind of vocabulary that should already be forgotten, er, steps should be taken in advance, until i see what is behind this one the meeting would be preemptive steps, and the fact that they agreed on how to help the defense of ukraine now, it is, it is good, uh, that is, as far as we understand, Emmanuel Macron. Tried to convince olaf scholz to be bolder in taurus, and olaf scholz tried to convince Emmanuel Macron to be more restrained in his statements about the nato contingent in ukraine, well, okay, the french troops in ukraine, the place of donald tusk, given the recent difficult relations between ukraine and poland, and certainly, after that, his visit to the United States. Well you know statements that are coming from yesterday. Without the un was regarding the socalled russian elections or the harsh assessment of the elections on the territory of ukraine as another illegal act of the occupying forces. Such statements are very harsh, and they are already very clearly stated in unisontka. In washington, thank you, the same donald tusk, clearly stated the position and , by the way, regarding the actions of speaker johnson, it all looks normal. But i am now looking at concrete actions, regarding, we have bilateral issues, if we talk about poland, then donald tusk voiced what will be the meeting is bilateral, serious at the end of march, not even like that, the 20th, when the issues will be finally resolved, well , to put it briefly, the blocking of the border, and i think that the date is already suitable, the main thing for us to do here is to make general statements. In poland are in the same boat with us and they understand them very well, the head of the National Security bureau of poland clearly said publicly that russia is a direct threat to poland, and now and in the near future, so obviously we thank poland for its security support, but in total war all things are connected if ukraine is to be weakened institutionally for the benefit of some corporate or similar interests there. Interests of polish economic sectors there now, im sorry, but giving support in the field of security with one hand and taking away the countrys Institutional Capacity with the other is not the best scenario. Donald tusk is a european politician, he perfectly understands this problem, he puts, i think, issues of European Security above any personal political ones, so i am sure that he will take his steps in the near future, and after that we will draw conclusions. And if talk about how much this european situation affects the United States, how much the United States is generally interested in europeans behaving, lets say , how . Scholz or like macron, what do they need . Well, actually, why did europe wake up , how much did we call for it, yes, it woke up because of the signal from washington, as soon as it became clear in europe, and this happened sometime in october, november of last year, that there will be such a situation and sagging in america, then they immediately understood that they had to prepare for the worst scenario, and this one. Well, maybe it hasnt ended yet, that is, aid is now aid, and most importantly, what will be the strategy of the United States now and after the elections, that is, they realized that they need to take more responsibility and started to take concrete steps already, so that washington gave a signal that woke up paris, berlin, well , the baltic countries should not have been there , or poland or romania, which are close to us, but. Yes, he woke up this capital even more, and in principle, now that there are such initiatives in europe, already on the other side atlanticists watch with some jealousy, because the euroatlantic space has always believed that the leader of the ramstein format from the United States is really important and the only such format that unites the countries of nato, the european union, and other countries of the world in support of ukraine. The usa is the leader, every time the first aid package was announced to the usa, by the way, on march 19 we expect the next ramstein and personal participation, god bless him, the head of the pentagon, he will again announce the first package of the usa there, but when the french president started talking about his initiative, it was placed on the capitalist hills, so its not just statements, its actually a gathering of leaders. The United States, but at the level of the head of the department of the specialized Foreign Policy department, but then there was no representative of the United States at the next meeting of the ministers of defense and foreign affairs, as far as i know, so there will be no replacement of ramstein, although such an attempt was made , and it is obvious that this pushes the Us Administration to be more decisive. So there are influences, there are influences, and transatlantic unity with such actions, it is back on the agenda again. Thank you, mr. Valery, valery chalyt, diplomat, former ambassador of ukraine to the United States of america in 20152019 was on our air, now we will talk about something more eastern, the region of our Foreign Policy such application. Mykhailo yakubovych, orientalist in nask, congratulations, mr. Mykhailo, good evening, but zelensky was in turkey, now putin is going there after his socalled elections, what does president erdogan want . Well, thats why they called zelensky, including so that it would be possible to legalize putin later, that is, to declare that we are mediators, we are negotiators, with erdogan. Now there are also local elections on his nose, which mean a lot, but in fact he has somewhat different considerations here, this consideration is to continue cooperation in the energy sphere, in the security sphere with many countries, and ah , having noticed the weakness of the west, and the delay with help and the possible Second Coming of trump will play on this. Field, thats why he really expects putin, although everything is possible, even there are such versions that this visit can be postponed somewhere, and again postponed, postponed and postponed, so it hangs slowly. Mr. Mykhailo, what would you call this format of our relations with turkey, when we understand that erdogan has his own interests and is determined to adhere to them, wants to be a mediator for ukraine and russia in ours. Conflict, right . On the other hand, we see and understand how extraordinary the cooperation between the ukrainian militaryindustrial complex and the turkish militaryindustrial complex is. If i recall, specific name, then this is also the turkish analogue of haimars, which is not officially confirmed, but osinters note that he works in ukraine. Thats a huge amount of kirby cars that our marines use. Well , if we recall the story with the byraktar in general , and not only in our country, the corvette will appear and it will be powerful after the war, but we are also building it together. Turkey, and this is again a certain level of trust and cooperation. What is this, what is this relationship, and should it be divided into two planes purely political and purely economicmilitaryindustrial . There are several points worth noting here first, a very good example is erdogans relationship with the netanyahu government in israel. Erdogan Sells Everything to israel, despite the fact that the flights. He makes extremely antiisraeli statements, but he sells there from food, products that go, including the Israeli Defense army, to components, to airplanes, to various radar equipment, most importantly, everyone knows this, and in the middle east everything is absolutely normal, just as active azerbaijan and saudi arabia cooperate there, but thats a little different. Reality with ukraine, we see that this cooperation, it has a huge perspective, why . First, erdogan is a predictable politician. The only thing is that we cannot know how he will react to such an unlikely, but nevertheless, version that the United States will withdraw from nato if trump is elected there, whether erdogan will back down if nato is really the statements he is making. At a more or less official level, whether erdogan will try to advance into ukraine somewhere will say you know, we will come out better from nato and sit in neutrality, but at the moment he is a predictable politician, and if the rearmament of the Ukrainian Army will take place, specifically in terms of aircraft, then turkey can be very useful for cooperation on the f16 and very a lot of other things, they have a lot of. Experience, including the experience of deploying field bases, even using the same tanks and german and american and Everything Else to counter them, the reb means, the drones there, they are extremely useful for of ukraine, that is, we see how great, albeit not public, cooperation is, and at the same time, we do not have information that the turks would establish military cooperation in the same way with the russians, that is, they. After all, have a certain vision and a certain strategy in this regard, so we see that there is no criticism from zelensky, well, except for the period when he was not yet president , towards erdogan, and it is unlikely that there will be, so even if putins visit really takes place, then i dont think its ukrainian the government will react very sharply to this, especially since. That erdogan will definitely remind about the situation of the crimean tatars, about many other processes, and the only thing he clearly says is what he always said, that without russia, no peace is impossible there, but since russia is the main initiator of the conflict, well, in principle, the realities are formed somewhere, that is, this phrase can be interpreted as you like, therefore erdogan is a politician with such experience that will be projected for the future, and it seems to me , that for ukraine he is rather, in spite of everything remains a positive ally, rather than some such dark leader who stands on the other side with iran, north korea, china, well, even though chinas opposition is ambiguous, but erdogan is still in some ways more friendly and closer to us. And what does putin need in return . In your opinion, well, putin needs to continue the moments of nonimposition of sanctions, lets not forget about those tankers that transport oil from the base on the black sea coast of russia, everywhere, and these oil terminals, there are new russian ones, others, they work, and it all goes through the bosphorus, but here erdogan, again, erdogan looks at what kind of sanctions. These sanctions are imposed by the west, and the west is fighting this export of russian oil with such steps, well, here we are fighting, here we are not fighting, it purchases through third countries, then cooperation on nuclear energy, that is, these are the resource and technological approaches that turkey will more of a beneficiary, and it feels in a position to impose certain conditions on russia, for example, to demand gas at a discount. Require further investment in the nuclear industry, until by the way, no fullfledged sanctions have been introduced against rosatom, i will remind you that russia has built a Nuclear Power plant there, but there are no strong sanctions against. And therefore there are no strong ones, some countries have only tried to introduce them, such as great britain, well, there are probably some agreements regarding the zaporizhzhia Nuclear Power plant , and the safety of Ukrainian Nuclear in this regard, this is classic, so that there is no escalation, because the topic is not only nuclear weapons, but Nuclear Power plants, it is very sensitive, annoying and timid for the west, that is why it is quite normal for erdogan, well and in syria he has. Now there are processes that are a little problematic, the fact is that the part of syria that is under the control of turkish troops, the international confrontation has intensified there, and it is possible that not without the influence of Bashar Assads special services, because he wants to regain control over that territory, so somewhere the turks have to look at the balance of power and use indirect approaches, take into account the russian presence there, and, well, there, too, they have a security issue that goes back to the roots of 20112012, eh, therefore erdogan must to Pay Attention to this Southern Front in conversations with putin, because putin can create problems for him there, just as erdogan created problems for bashar assad, but at the moment there is a plus or minus shaky truce in syria. And tell me. Mr. Mykhailo, in principle , if we are talking about the very distribution of forces in the middle east, then there is russia in the interests of syria, there is turkey, there is iran, along with this , russia and china are carrying out joint military exercises, this should worry turkey, i i dont think that it worries her much, because there is no deal with iran now very bad relations, they have their own relations with china, with russia. In principle, here is the issue of the black sea, at one time turkey applied the montreux convention, and zare is constantly trying to talk about the fact that it will apply it, and, by the way, independently building warships for ukraine, with this washedout wording after the war, and this is how and when, all the more so from the point of view of international law, that it is happening at all now, that is. I do not think that these ki chineseiranian there are other studies, especially the turks, like no one sees how the russian ships in crimea were relatively well beaten, and the forces, the naval forces of many countries are now undergoing a somewhat similar rethinking, that is, this naval component has become extremely vulnerable to missiles, drones, and Everything Else, despite the fact that for its maintenance, it simply needs huge. Financial investments, i would say that the turks will now rather study countermeasures, including the protection of their naval forces, so these exercises are being monitored, but maybe even with those positions, show us how not to do it, so that in the future we do not lose our fleet in some conflicts or lose our flagships, because turkey still positions itself as. A leading maritime power in the Eastern Mediterranean and even more so in the black sea. I cannot get out of my head one thesis from the mouth of mr. Volodymyr putin. He gave an interview there to the Russian State Assembly on the eve of his elections in russia. And he said that we are technically ready to use nuclear weapons. Why do you think he emphasized the question technical readiness . Well, that is, earlier all kremlin propagandists shouted about political readiness at any moment , radioactive ash and so on, and now they emphasize the technical state of this entire system, their nuclear triad, and how china can and should, given its traditional position, react to this . Well, for one thing, china is also rearming its nuclear. I mean, not that theyre building new warheads, but that theyre testing and upgrading missiles. By the way, most programs for modernization and reequipment of this Nuclear Component in countries such as france, great britain, the United States, china, and russia began 57 years ago. It is possible that there was a premonition, an actual increase in value
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