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Are fighting, others help the front as much as they can, and some simply do not notice the war and continue to spend money on the purchase of expensive things, revelry, fun events, well, someone even more so earned this money dishonestly and unfairly, well, that is a matter for Law Enforcement agencies , we are talking about this now in the worldview program and we are joining, we are joining the conversation of vadym vasvytynskyi, a social psychologist, mr. Vadym, i congratulate you, good health, i think you have seen this video, we will now to show, in the course of our conversation, videos. Of loud celebrations and weddings, especially since this is not just a wedding, these are people, well, in one story there, people who held public positions and earned huge money for holding such events, well, in any case, this stirred up society and caused loud disputes, discussions, scandals , some say that they have the right to their money, they have a wedding, let them have fun, well, what about the fact that there is a war, so dont people to get married and all that, dont do such nonsense, others say thats it how can it be like that when. will die, somewhere the mother received a funeral letter about her son, or called that her son is no longer there, her husband is no longer there, and here it is, this is how it gets along in one society, what would you give a diagnosis , in short, because, how is it all. To call such a society during a war, at all, please, well, a society during a war, then i do not know how to call such phenomena, such phenomena in our society ukrainian, you know, well, there is such a fashionable word zashkvar, probably something, something, something around this term is definitely not scientific, but you know why this one, you asked me if i had to say that i must have seen, i wasnt specifically looking for this record, of course, but it was coming out from all over the place because it really caught on. Citizens, society and even though, uh, you are also involved in this, because , actually, really all these shots, they normally shock a person, i think that the problem of these, so to speak, hosts, grooms and such , the other thing is that this is theirs, well, such a colorful wedding, lets say this, it affected as many as three, as many as three painful points of our society, three, the first such a request for social equality, well, this is a request for, you know , there are rich people, there are poor people, the poor hate the rich, classclass hatred, this is very good , the soviet authorities knew how to fan it back then, we still have such postsoviet, but in the end, it is eternal all over the world, and it is also very relevant in our country, because a large part, we do not have a very large society, and a large part of such poor people are convinced that their troubles are due to the fact that life, government, neighbors, etc. Have not dealt with them. Second, second, second a question, this is actually also what you said about, it is a question about social justice, there is a government that must establish this justice, and here are just a few hundred representatives of the same government, exactly that, well, the Law Enforcement part of the government, like this, they had a good time, and here this is, then, class hatred for the rich, what such hatred. To the corrupt, the greedy, the wealthy, the rich , etc. , who dont just, dont just have, they have something to do, they have something, well, something to show off, so what do they really need to show off, that is, they need to be noticed, this is a rather primitive such an emotion, a primitive need, deep down it is a complex , a dissatisfied complex, of such inferiority, it is, if not by 100, then by 99 , and i think that the initiators, the master. Of this party and a lot of those who went there, i would strongly recommend to see a psychologist , although, although you know, if they do, then and there they will become less happy, if they are happy now with this, with this complex of theirs, with such behavior, it may not be necessary to go to psychologist, this is roughly how i commented, well, we also had comments , i will voice them briefly so as not to repeat, where the guys were asked on the streets of kyiv, young guys, what they know about the defense of tazovstal, the defense of mariupol, what happened there, they are not aware. Neither one nor the other, one just wants to live in good, he is not interested in the news, but the other just doesnt know, he, he doesnt care, this, this again, this, this is selective, so im not saying that everyone is like that, yes this is a sample, but it shows that it is so, and here it arises, you know, there are very good words in the bible, in my opinion in the epistle to the romans, if i am not mistaken, that weep with those who weep and laugh with those who laugh, this is a normal reaction, a normal understanding of how society behaves in the time of war, all the more so when one is in pain and it is difficult, or at the front, or someone else took this weight on themselves, and when you saw, you are carrying this weight yourself, or several of your friends, and others simply do not notice you, this the weight becomes heavier, how to motivate society so that, well, the weight of the war is distributed evenly over, well, approximately evenly on everyones shoulders and backs, then maybe it will be easier for others, or whether it wont be possible to do it, it wont be possible to do it, no, no, its a certain way to say, well, an illusion, which we would very much like, that this is actually the need for equality. For everyone to make their contribution, so, well, not exactly the same, because people have different, different opportunities, different, different strengths, but in proportion to their opportunities, for everyone to make this contribution, this has never happened and will never happen, uh, well, we we have a part of heroes who protect us, we have a large majority, the overwhelming majority of society, who are them support, so you cant say that society is very indifferent, that no one does anything, its not true, and when you see this. This, this video, well, its quite manipulative and not very smart, because in fact , i believe in statistical data, so if you ask a large, sufficiently large sample , then it falls into place, most people are preoccupied with the war, worry, well, there are data that about a third of our citizens do not help, do not donate anything and so further, they just worry, lets say so, but dvityny takes, takes a more or less active part, therefore, i think, the picture is quite stable somewhere. Society is involved. If we want even more, it is unlikely to succeed if we apply some such coercion, well, they do not work, on a large scale. We can force tens of hundreds, hundreds of people, a thousand, but we will not force a few million to do something there, so i think that we should approach this more restrained, calmer, understand that there will always be people, first of all, we still have a few percent of people prorussian, how can we force them to worry, they still worry, sometimes against us, lets say this, there are people who are simply afraid, there are people who are weak, they dont want to hear about it, and its better to bury their heads in the sand. As a psychologist, i understand that a person has the right to be afraid, a person has the right to be weak, a person has the right to flee somewhere, you see , thats why i dont condemn them when it comes to the scale of society, its a shame that not everyone rushed to defend the homeland, but we proceed from what is, now that we think, well, a few weeks already about israel, a lot a lot of information and a lot is shown about how they heroically defend their homeland, i am sure that there are people who do not do this, who are afraid, who can talk, argue about the proportions, where is more, where is less, maybe there is a difference , but in general this is the case with us and with them, so i treated it like this, well, a little more calmly , we need to talk about it here, but not without inflating some kind of hysteria around it, you know, according to the statistics of this year, it is a bit like this, well, it is indicative that a Record Number of cars was bought in ukraine this year, class, well, cars of the b brand. Its new, its not cheap, its not a cheap line of german cars, it just shows about the opportunities that have appeared in many people, well, about the dismantling of 30 of the military humanitarian aid that entered ukraine, about the opportunities that have appeared again some people, and about the fact that these people want to spend money not just like that, but in such a way that it is, well, demonstrative and highquality, these are also facts that exist, this is not about a wedding, this is about that someone continues to steal, again during the war, is unlikely a mass phenomenon, but it is, but it is, and here explain the grace of the psychology of these people , these are people who do not have empathy, these are people who are completely cynical, these are people who do not feel other peoples pain, i would like to perhaps not feel somewhere for my psychological health, because already the nerves give out a little and the heart, so to speak, betrays, but i cant help but react, well, there is a leader, and maybe there are just people who dont have this empathy, and you wont reach them, you wont convey , he will steal ammunition, realizing that somewhere out there, without this ammunition , a boy or a girl or a woman will die on at the front, and he is absolutely fine. Already, well, maybe there are such people, please explain from the point of view of a specialist, well, of course, there are such people, you understand what the matter is, i am at least a little bit from society, always in any such broad social phenomenon, there will always be found, fraudsters in particular, it always, never happens that everyone acts honestly, it doesnt happen like that, a certain percentage of them will always be found, what you said, lets say he stole and because of him somewhere indirectly someone died, you know, if it was right here, he took it and the person died right there because of this in his eyes, many, well, most would be deterred by it, but he easily justifies himself, what . Well, because it is, well, it is not my direct fault here, well, i took it a little to myself, someone will take it there, and someone will not take it, and all the same, there society, the state exist, function, and so on , these people easily find excuses for themselves, that is, if they are not so directly guilty of something. Its obvious to them that theyre not, so, so, so, so, they, they dont feel guilty, and here i would say, a little more important is not empathy itself, although, well, it probably does matter , but more, how much a person is inclined to feel guilt and responsibility, his personal guilt, his personal responsibility for what is happening around him, and if people somewhere out there yes, on the military and civilians, on the socalled front, they directly intertwine these events and their behavior very, very clearly shows, it is useful, harmful, etc. , then the people are further in the rear, they behave, well, we we cannot, even when we are very worried about ukraine, we cant only do what to walk, what to sing, the anthem, uh, no, well , you have to act, if youre worried about something, you have to act to, well, exactly, just like that, but act, act as , well, lets say, i can say, yes, i am a patriot of ukraine, i fulfill my duties, i am there, regularly, before some. Funds, but i work with students, carry out, do scientific research, well, what else can i do, i cant shoot, if i, if they take me, they wont take me anymore, maybe unfortunately, if i, if they take me , for sure, i would not refuse, i would not hide and i would try to learn to do something, although i do not think whether it would be much, whether it would be of much use to me, but i am already justifying myself, whether it would be of much use to me, and this is what many people do, especially men, so that im a peaceful person, i dont know how to shoot, ive never done it, i have a big family and yes. That is, people find arguments to justify themselves, and i, as a psychologist, also understand this, but you find arguments to justify yourself, please, within those limits, where you dont take risks, try to do. Everything from it depends on you, that is, at least to earn money, and this money, and to share this sinful , in general, to develop the economy, to provide for those around you, to provide for your own family and so on, that is, these things are quite obvious, but there are people, this actually, maybe the essence of this question that you are talking about is that each of us has a socalled hierarchy of motives, which is the most valuable for us, and here are the people for whom the very desire to earn, and to earn in any way, is an opportunity, there are people, the viewer of literally in the first place, and therefore when something passes by them, and they can steal, then they cannot but steal, there are not many such people, but such people exist at all levels, in politics, in customs, among journalists, among psychologists, among the military, unfortunately , among god, the word is great, well, everyone in all spheres, in all spheres of our life, there are such people, and we, and those who, who, who do not have such a dominant need, we are then surprised, it was possible to steal, but for this person it is not a problem of choice, it is not only a problem to do it so that it is not found out, thats it and thats all, but in front of her conscience, she is usually clean, and its easy, its easy to justify herself, someone writes in the comments to our broadcast on youtube, to be honest, before the maidan i was also a part of this population, after the 13th year my consciousness has changed, well, after the beginning of the revolution of dignity, i mean, in some it changed in the 22nd year, in some it has not changed until now, we have literally six minutes to the end. I would like to take this opportunity to talk with a psychologist, to ask, now my acquaintances, some colleagues are writing about what they feel exhaustion in that, they look for strength in themselves and do something automatically, because people , well, consciousness is controlled by adults, yes, but emotions, many do not feel, do not see where to move, well, that is, there is a certain, there is a certain state of society, plus minus yes, for almost almost two years of war, how would you assess the current state of society and perhaps what should be done, how should we act in order to give ourselves more resources to continue, well, because we have to continue, here how they say, the train is speeding, the train is speeding along the tracks, and here you cant, because to go off the rails is just, just crash, we have to reach this dream victory , please, well, look, this is a question you are asking me, it is still a question not for a psychologist, because i cannot give advice for society, psychologists are people, for a person, a specific person, and for a person, psychologists are individual advisers, i can tell you about this, but people. Very different, very different, there are people, for example, for whom it is useful, on the contrary, to reduce their activity a little, a little, because they burn out, yes, there are people who, well, there are, i would say so, there are such two, maybe three more or less universal pieces of advice, the first of them is, well, actually, when you already feel such an excess of all these impressions from all this, look for yourself such a rest, respite, look for yourself some such niche where you can to move away from this a little, how much to move away, how far, this is already the norm, the individual norm for everyone , this is what we are talking about, some people get tired, afraid, scared and no longer have the strength, for those, but the second, second way that is, unless you have a real one bright activity , what are you there, for example, benefiting society, etc. , just think about the people around you, help one, two, three people who are around you, help today. In a week, someone every day, someone once for a month, at least people who do something themselves do not wait for help from someone, but provide this help themselves , they always win emotionally in such situations , they feel more confident, it gives them some kind of selfesteem, gives them some kind of strength, thats it, well, probably the third is also, since we live in the information space, we need to choose the means of information search that are adequate for us, and a lot of people suffer because the information actually comes from everywhere, terribly contradictory, terribly changeable, then this, then this, then this and that , choose one source, a maximum of two and focus on them, those in which you at least feel some trust, which have not let you down there in the last months, lets say so, because if you grab everything, then it just leads to some such , e from nervous shock, to an emotional explosion and so on. Well, and very briefly finally, please tell me, if you monitor the reaction to such events, well, loud parties, spending money, maybe, well, i dont know how they are earned, but obviously there are, there are questions, but after all, society in the majority reacted in such a way that it is not possible, or can it be said that Ukrainian Society then looks healthy, that actually publicly, after all, globally, such behavior was not acceptable. I dont say convicted, we dont have the right to condemn anyone, we, we dont, no, not the court and not god, but it is not approved, does this again prove that Ukrainian Society remains healthy and adequate in this situation. Him in the war and the time in which he lives now . Yes, yes, yes, yes, you can say, well, there is such a term in the social sciences, health, society, sick society, it is clear that there are no absolutely healthy and absolutely sick societies, they are all different, i would say that our society, at least for the last 1020 years, even despite all kinds of political changes, our society is generally quite healthy, we have, well, we had maybe a little less now, but we really had such big political, political confrontations, in society, but we held back, that is, it is absolutely obvious that if it were not for the intervention of russia, then we would, we would have preserved this social peace, despite , that we have such significant contradictions between each other, and that our and our reaction , the reaction of our society to this same war, it is also healthy in my opinion, the situation itself is very traumatizing, that is understandable, but this is an injury to a healthy. Person, and thats why im in in this case, in this sense, i rate our society quite highly. Thank you very much for your professional comments. Vadyma vasyatinsky, a sociopsychologist, was in touch with us and we talked about this phenomenon, why some fight, others walk. Thank you, mr. Vadim, we say goodbye to our guest, well, we literally have a couple of minutes left, here again, i heard the words i wanted to hear about the fact that our society is generally healthy. Nothing is perfect really, you know. In any war there is always someone somewhere in restaurants, in any famine, someone somewhere eats red caviar, behind strong walls, someone dies, someone is sent to death, even the commander, and the commander remains behind, this, this is life, and i think that Ukrainian Society, the key moment that it has reached now during these two years of war, that it has become much more mature and simply understands the reality, the reality that there are such people, there are other people, there is a sailor. Who blew up, a horse who blew up the bridge along with himself, tried to stop the enemy on the way to ginichivsk, there were heroes who, on one tank stopped the enemy armada, leaving time for his friends to retreat, yes, and there is a pensioner who fired at the enemy column in buch, gave time and then gave the artillery a shot, in fact, it burned this column and saved, perhaps, many people then, then in buch, and there is someone who surrendered to the enemy. Positions, ukrainian soldiers or ukrainian patriots in the occupied territory, people are different, but most importantly we understand that there is such a reality, and in this reality we become the ones who have to win , we become a nation of winners, despite everything, we understand, see mistakes , accept, do not accept, but we go and form into a nation of winners, i believe that we will form into it finally, our enemy will be formed into a nation of losers and losers. Thank you for being with us, it was the svitoglyad program, i. Vasima, i say goodbye to you until the evening, to the Big Broadcast, and for now stay with the espresso, because there is still a lot of interesting things ahead. Congratulations, today i will tell a very unusual story that cannot leave anyone indifferent. This time, we are looking for a child who has not disappeared, as opposed to the parents, the parents of this 12yearold a boy named roma kyriak. The methodologist of the childrens shelter in the village of rozhishche, volyn region, contacted our hotline 1163. She said that the boy was admitted to their institution on september 29, and since then, unfortunately, none of his relatives have been looking for the child. Someone may recognize roman, someone may have some information. Someone will provide, well, somehow bring him to his family, closer , we only rely on you, now with your help we must do Everything Possible to find the relatives of 12yearold roma as soon as possible, or anyone who may know information about them. First of all, i talked to the boy himself and at the same time did not ask him questions about his family, mother and did not ask about details that could psychologically traumatize the child, hello, please tell me a little about yourself, where you study, what is your real name and how old are you, my name is roma, im 12 years old, im from chernivtsi, well, from a small village, from the chernivtsi region, well, what i like more is mathematics and this. Language, and please tell me if you have any hobbies, hobbies, besides studying, what do you like to do well, i like to run. I ran 5 km once, its not bad, and i also like to play football , i like to draw, i often draw all kinds of cars there, and please tell me what are your Favorite Movies or cartoons, books, maybe, oh my my favorite, my Favorite Movie is there det garfil. Me too, by the way, i also love him, so, at the same time , roma told his story while talking to the educators and psychologists of the childrens shelter. So the boy was brought there by the police, who saw him unaccompanied by adults at the bus station in city of lutsk. Roma said that he was driving home without his parents from his grandmother, who lives in the village of nova volya in the volyn region, to the city of khotyn in the chernivtsi region. Of course , the police did not let the boy travel further by himself and transferred him to a childrens shelter, in order to establish his parents in the meantime. Roma said that he lives with his mother, brother and two sisters, and his father lives separately. The boy also gave the exact address of his residence, it is khotyn, 9 tolstogo street. Do they live there, mother does not have a place of residence, a house. Empty, neither the mother nor the children are in the house, the neighbors said that they left, it is not known where, so where the boys mother, his father, brother and sisters are now, it is unknown, their phones are switched off, the grandmother has also not been contacted yet , and for some reason none of them is looking for a child, at the same time we know the names of the mother, father, brother and sisters, so Olga Petrivna kyriak and eduard mykolavych kyryak are the parents. Brother mykola, he is 16 years old, sixyearold and nineyearold sisters, whose names are cherovima and seraphim. We also learned that all the children went to khotyn lyceum number one until september 14, but recently the mother took away the childrens documents and they no longer attended classes. The boy himself is feeling well now, both physically and psychologically, but he talks about his family reluctantly, there is an assumption that he does not negotiate, because all these days. He is the only one with us, we have asked him more than once, well, names at least the last name of your friends, at the school where you studied, what kind of friends there are, what are the names of the teachers, he didnt remember anyone, according to the psychologist who works with him more, he, even recently, has opened up more, makes more contact, wants to communicate, but doesnt really want to talk about his family, i really hope for. Attentiveness and carelessness, if you recognize the boy and know any, even the slightest information about him, his parents or relatives, immediately notify us on the hotline 116. 30, calls from all mobile operators in ukraine are free. Greetings, im olga len, these are the chronicles of combat operations, before we look at the combat map actions, i would like to remind you that the espresso tv channel is currently collecting funds for the purchase and modernization of a jeep for the Rapid Response group of the third sso regiment. 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