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Of an unknown country to destroy weapons that can be used against israel in an unknown place. Serhiy cholenko is with us on the air, mr. Serhiy, you know, i just read this one a story that shows how confused everything is in this world, and the question of choice, and the choice of civilization, i would say, the choice of values, it is very, very doubtful and very, very difficult, there is such a porn star, well, she has not been there for a long time. Was a porn star for a short time, mia khalifa, herself from lebanon, went with her parents to the usa, there she did some porn in playboy magazine, and then her father now supported the palestinians and was very happy there that they were killing israeli citizens, and only israeli there were citizens of other countries in israel and her for that they were expelled from the playboy, they decided not to work with her in the west, this is the story of a person who was born in one city, lived in another, then in another place, well, in a civilized democratic state, she achieved some kind of tattoo, earned money, well, there , whoever she is, well, well, a porn star, thats the thing, her choice, its legal there, yes, and now supports here, where people are being killed by palestinians who live in poverty by themselves, under the pressure of their leaders, hamas, and otka otka here is a mixture, both in my head and in my life, and where here, as clearly here, i am i am leading to the point that how to clearly draw the watershed here between democracy and dictatorship, first of all in the heads of the people themselves, because there were stories about that. That some people who were at this festival in israel also, well, supported palestine, that they have the right to something there, but then these people became victims of an attack by hamas militants, there is this watershed, there is some clear border, or is it difficult now name it, or point to it , if this watershed exists, then it is as wide as the dnipro river, so in fact, the Russian Federation, which constantly uses. The principle, not everything is so unambiguous, just using some historical, incomplete procedures, or some processes, including how the situation is very difficult in the middle east, we have been since 1948, after the declaration of independence and the creation of the state of israel, we see how many very controversial decades have taken place there, and now, for example, there are many, including among democratic countries, including democratic tools for contact, such as the same extwitter, which is over there social network a mask, which today is the foundation for spreading messages, what do you see, in 1948, israel began aggression, allegedly, and look how unhappy palestine is now, well, we see, in principle, now this issue is exclusively for to those standards, to the values ​​that guide citizens and subjects all over the world, it doesnt matter whether your country is a republic or a monarchy, but if they begin to justify the open aggression and open attack of terrorists, hamas, on the state of israel, on civilians, then, that started happening with the seventh according to october they have, of course, here we no longer see a reaction to a specific case, but here are all the layers , here the entire tenyear one, there the 50year one and so on, and so on, a retrospective in the minds of people, there is no single understanding in the world today, when the un was created, including, by the way , the state of israel, we understand that this is one of the consequences, friend. World war, as a result of the same holocaust that was taking place, it was actually the duty of the civilized world to provide such a piece of land from respectively for the jewish people, and thus, we see today that even the created system led by the un, it is not fully supported in a single understanding , well, almost half of the world, well, i wouldnt say there, even half of the fragmentation is much greater today, this polarization, well a multipolar world, indeed, it is being formed precisely at the level of values, and this is the biggest problem, because the stratification is not only there on the basis of religion, religion in general is happening in our country now, well, you know, we see that it is a tool for various terrorist organizations, recruiting the most radical individuals, it doesnt matter if its islam, and what were seeing there now with hamas, whether its the Russian Orthodox church, we see what s happening in russia, its not a question of specific religion, its about religion as a tool, plus again well. The economy, the economy is doing a lot these days and its clear that whoever pushed the last button to start this particular war in israel, i think its the same forces that wanted to raise the price of oil above 100 dollars a barrel as soon as possible, those who wanted to disrupt the new transport corridor from india, respectively through the same israel to the european union, that is, we see in the different readings of the economy, and in fact, in fact, all of this today is superimposed on a different geopolitical vision, we do not ba, you know, it is the impression that the United States still continues living in such a postsoviet period, trying to be the leaders of the western world, of course together with the european union, with great britain, and other countries today are trying to use all the weaknesses in order to redistribute this. We see it today at the level of the global south, and indeed all of this today actually rests on not even competition, it is already true , it is a duel between democracy and autocracy today , what we started with, and this is really, it is a huge risk, because you know, if we did not have a Nuclear Weapons in the world, thats one thing, but as we see, certain players who want revenge constantly raise this mace and this boot. What about Nuclear Weapons, and here the question is not even only in russia, because we see the same north korea, which introduced, in its legislation, a direct requirement to have such Nuclear Weapons, and this is really the biggest problem, because we are from this, not even a discussion, but a polemic about civilizational approaches, we are already going to the issue of security, the security of the whole world, and this is the biggest thing today, well, extremely dangerous the situation for our and future generations, because we do not see this stop and what is happening today in ukraine, of course, this demonstrates the general level, the general level, you know, such an average temperature in the chamber of this ambiguous perception in world, but if in israel today it is still possible to argue, to say, well, perhaps israel is somewhere innocent, somewhere guilty, somewhere or something else, well , different situations can exist, then if even on the case of ukraine today there is no single understanding, then this today is a diagnosis for the entire world order and says that if the old one no longer works, then we must evolve to something new, but not what is needed today, they cannot see the new, you know, there are such words in the bible , that my people are dying because of lack vision, vision there is no future, i have the impression that these people do not have, they are not able to create a vision of the future, you know, there was such a king david who actually conquered sinai there with his avenir and this group that he gathered in the desert of adalam among there bandits, criminals, gathered an army and took sinai, but when, but he built up israel and made it rich, that even the queen of shevska herself said that i came to see the wisdom of solomon, but solomon created it, david could not create a rich israel, well he, he got it in his blood there with all his minuses, but he was created by solomon, the same way it seems here now that there are no people who can see this future, what the new world should be, and you know, the most annoying thing here is that what are we talking about now about democracy, about dictatorship, but its banal, well, the war in syria started because there were also threats to russia, in particular, regarding the gas route through syria, well, lets start a war there, well, yes, from here now again saudi arabia, israel, well, as i understand it, through jordan, the oil corridor, yes, lets start a war in israel, ukraine, they found a lot of rare earth metals, which are very sweaty for the development of modern many devices, even more than in china, reserves of rare earth metals can be in ukraine, why dont we capture the south of ukraine, where it all lies, and you realize that, well, you know, it becomes disgusting from what you look at, and its banal, its money, well, the discovery of america, the destruction of the indians is money, the campaigns of christ are money, these are resources, and you understand that all these things that stand under the banners of faith, democracy or dictatorship, allah or someone else, some values, basically you understand that its just money and resources as an opportunity to control the world, so how can you do it so that even despite all these disadvantages, well, somewhere these ideas were , because when people. Accept as normal the shooting of people in buch or in mariupol and just as normal perceive the shooting of people in israel in the south in the south of israel in these kibbutzim and at this festival, well then, then it doesnt matter anymore these, then democracy as a civilization, then why is it, it should remain in in peoples hearts, how to preserve it, the most important thing, well, it is obvious that you really paid attention correctly, regarding wealth, lets put it this way, as one of the elements. Of propaganda and democracy, and now of those autocratic regimes that continue to develop, enrich themselves economically , even now the greatest oil traders, Pay Attention to how the economy of the United Arab Emirates or saudi arabia is being rebuilt there, you see that they are investing as much as possible in precisely the nonoil, non energy sphere, well, it means not redeemable minerals, and thus everything is equal, they do not change today in their own approaches, in relation to, and there relation to human rights, and indeed, precisely from the point of view of the economy and not only the economy, but also the wellbeing of future generations, i think that it should be a central approach, because in fact, today, in this General Information noise in which western society lives. And the emphasis on the general human development, where to go next, for some reason, you know, for example, is disappearing, lets say so the topic of space, now Pay Attention, and just totalitarian, states, there are generally selfcritical, especially china is betting on it to show its technological power, to demonstrate that what used to be there in the United States, now they can on it is spending money, and at the same time wealthier, accordingly, their population and the economy in general are rising, well, although of course not at such a pace and everyone is starting to talk about a possible recession there and so on, that india is now gaining momentum there plus 7 , gdp and so on, but nevertheless, its just that china has already reached such a level of development that it can afford not so active topics, further development, and on the same wave we see a total aging of the population in the european part of the world, look at what is happening in the United States, which is gnawing today, just are gnawing politically, and many of my acquaintances who live there even wonder whether some internal conflicts will start, and the Russian Federation is playing on this today, as much as possible, russia is fueling it with its own. Ganda, who constantly remind them and civil war, and this whole topic with the trumpists is now just a crazy field for them to work on and they are doing it, the russians , respectively, are doing it in the United States, for a lot of money, including, we understand that in general, just like democracies, such as in ukraine, but we still have to understand that the independence we proclaimed in 1991, we can consider ourselves a new democracy. It is precisely on our territory that in the future we could achieve a certain synergy in terms of the development of democracy without falling further into authoritarianism, although, again, we had there were such cases when yanukovych was returned to power there, but we had several revolutions that were able to correct the whole matter. Ukraine can become such a center today of both democracy and further economic development, thanks to its transit opportunities and the existing Resource Base in terms of minerals, and of course human potential, and that is why i think that just such a salvation for world democracy, and such the kremlin also saw the possibilities, and that is why they started this largescale stage of the war, because they realized that it was not will only be a salvation for democracy, but also a certain mirror for russia itself, that there may be another option for development, and that is why we have what we have today, but for ukraine, of course, this does not mean that we need to turn 180, we we must continue to develop our own democracy, the question is only under what conditions, for example, the topic of elections is very relevant now, eh. And which one we see that even the western partners are actually betting on it today, but how to conduct them, for each of the forms, for each of the forms of voting, there are questions that preelectronic, regarding voting by envelopes, that again the question is to come directly to the polling station, when we have a million mobilized, that is, we understand that in such a situation, it is a very difficult path, but nevertheless for ukraine, i think that if we go to global, at the macro level, ukraine today can really be a defender of democracy in the confrontation with autocratic regimes, the most important thing for us today is to defeat the Russian Federation. You know, well, in history there were such battles that actually determined the next stage of the development of civilization, lets say there in 331 the battle of hamels, when alexander the great defeated darius ii, in fact, the hyminian empire was destroyed and began to develop more actively hellenistically. The world, although then, of course, from a Military Point of view, alexander the great had much less power, but he was able to defeat darius , well, lets say, we can talk about 770, in my opinion , the year Charles Martel and the knights, the crusaders, the battle near the city of tours, when the invasion of muslims was stopped, on europe, on france, well, but on europe, in general, then in fact it was stopped and europe remained christian, then there were such decisive battles in history, and there was the second world war, lets remember, but, well, this battle is also going on now, the only question is that maybe at that time people had visions, i dont know what they are fighting for, ukraine knows what it is fighting for, for its land , for the safety of its people, for the opportunity to be itself and to be ukrainian in general. How big should be the role of ukraine today precisely in communication, i ot i am now looking, in romania they canceled the speech of the president of ukraine in the parliament, you know, you can always treat president zelenskyi differently as a politician, but we all. Supported him as our president , as a representative of ukraine in the world, so it is unpleasant for me, and the romanian deputies themselves, who wrote that it is a pity that he will not speak , this is just a word about communication, we literally have two minutes, but please tell me what possible communication ukraine should give to the world today, why we we fight in fact, it was us who started this war, it was us who was attacked by the monster , well, unfortunately it has already spread, what do we have to say, for what values ​​and for what, what do we see in this war, what are we going for, well, in fact death, so exactly, please, it is obvious that we should be a model state, a state where corruption has an inexorable trend, where, despite everything, the rights and freedoms of citizens are preserved, of course, within certain limits, on which martial law is imposed, but that is not less, it is all stored and where adequate is stored political life, because in this way we show today that, despite everything , today we can talk about the further development of democracy, and what exactly are we, you know, here is a strange situation, here is the Russian Federation, which attacked us, but they really continue today the further narrowing of the rights and freedoms of citizens, and even the topic of security today is absolutely not carried out by the kremlin regime, but russians applaud vladimirovich and so on, ukraine from today is a completely opposite country, i will not talk about antirussia, because it is a throwin precisely russian propaganda, ukraine is ukraine, and it builds its politics, it is so fruitful today, i generally believe that we were able to withstand these one and a half years thanks to a strong, deep state, ukraine, the same as the deep state in the United States, this deep state was born in ukraine, and Civil Society, together , of course, as todays best representatives in the Defense Forces of ukraine, who defend our state from russian aggression, so today we must continue to be this example, because in the future and in european countries, in the United States, elections will take place, there will be an absolutely objective polarization of society , but nevertheless we must remain today as representatives of the light, this watershed that we talked about must be preserved, we cannot blur it the advance that the world gave us and that already. Not an advance, but the result that our defenders on the battlefield and our Civil Society earned, for this we have to fight, thank you very much for your comments, thank you very much for joining, igor chelenko, political and economic expert, i am at the very end, you know what i will tell you, our dear viewers, thank you very much, mr. Igor, we say goodbye to you, and i wish you a good day, i will say at the very end, you know, there is such a film, passion of the christ , mela gibson, there James Caviezel plays christ and he walks with christ on his back, he is beaten, he falls, it is at vio delas on the road with. Tears and maria approaches and says what are you doing, by christ, and he says i create everything new. I think that ukraine is in this war and all, well, most importantly, it is such an image of christ, who creates. Everything new is coming on our calvary, we believe that a new world will emerge from all this, because it cannot be otherwise, well, that is why wars start, wars are always the consequences of mistakes, it is when there is no development and then war happens, and as if war must start something new, well, this is the logic of history, its just that this time we found ourselves in this epicenter, we found ourselves, we are not to blame for this, actually, but we found ourselves and we believe that this new thing will be created, and the values ​​for which our people are fighting today warriors, they will be approved, i thank you for being with us, this there was a worldview program, i will continue to stay in the press. There are 20 discounts on amicitron at podorozhnyk, bam and oskad pharmacies. There are discounts on voltar forte of 20 in podorozhnyk, bam and oskad pharmacies. See this week in the judicial control program with tatyana shustrova. 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So, sasha and nastya disappeared in mariupol in the first days of the fullscale invasion, and for a long time nothing was known about their fate. We made a number of video programs about the search for girls, but unfortunately, no one saw it sisters and could not report any information about them. We suspected that sasha and nastya were no longer in ukraine and got drunk on the territory of russia, and this version was confirmed to us by osind investigators, who, thanks to their own technologies for searching for information in open sources, established that sasha and nastya are really in russia. As we managed to find out, sasha and nastya studied in one of the boarding schools of mariupol before the war. After a fullscale invasion, they ended up in donetsk. Here is a photo from social networks, in which sasha and nastya are actually in temporary accommodation occupied donetsk. This is most likely the spring of 2022, already in the summer of 2022 they were taken to nizhny novgorod, again there is a corresponding photo in social networks, and the sisters are still together here, but after that no more photos of sasha and nastya appeared together. It is not known exactly where nastya lipunova is now, after the last photo of her in nizhny novgorod, it was not possible to establish the girls further whereabouts. It is possible that she. Was recruited in russia, but this information has not been confirmed, so officially, nastya remains is missing and the search for the girl continues, but more is known about her sister sasha, investigators have found out that sasha liponova lives in the city of lukhovitsa, moscow region, and on september 1, 2022, she even entered a local technical school. And here, for example, is a photo of sashis with a diploma for an award in a poetry contest. And here the girl reads poems. Or on one of the city squares. There is also information that sasha lives in a foster family or in a local hostel. Of course, everything we learned about the girls we immediately passed on to to the police, but until these data are officially confirmed, sasha and nastya will be considered missing. Currently, we do not know under what circumstances sasha and nastya liponova ended up in russia and whether they became direct victims of deportation. In general, as of now, more than 1,900 ukrainian children have been deported to russia, and this is a nonfinal figure, because the aggressor country refuses to provide complete lists of children deported from ukraine. In particular, many ukrainian boys and girls were deported before the fullscale invasion began were in the temporarily occupied territories in residential institutions, such as sasha and nastya liponovy. Deportation of children is part of the crime of genocide, so i would like to note that if you personally. Know about any crime against a child, in particular about abduction or deportation, do not remain indifferent and immediately report it to the police, or report it to our website stopcrime ua. You can even do it anonymously. And the very end, please go to the website of the childrens tracing service. All these boys and girls are missing are missing, so if you recognize any of them, please call us on the hotline at the short number 116. 3 00 calls from all mobile operators in ukraine are free. We have created a resource that allows you to report any crime against a child, anywhere, anytime. Just go to the site and report, and we will launch all possible mechanisms to punish the criminal. Stopprime ua. See this week in the collaborators program. Traitors from the south. As a blogger from melitopol , he is looking for a rich and active life. If expose in general to the side. Who and how intimidates teachers and doctors in the city of gola prystay. Greetings, im Olena Kononenko and this is the collaborator program. New faces from the council, who are already waiting for suspicion and cameras, are asking that the whole of ukraine learn about them. Our task is to make them known, so that after the end of the war and our victory, these traitors do not sit in the corners, pretending to be lawabiding citizens, but sit down for their crimes. Immediately after the start of the fullscale russian invasion of ukraine , changes to the criminal code were adopted regarding the establishment of responsibility for collaborative activities. The law defined such a crime and became a safeguard against. Citizens in illegal actions,