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Related to the grain grain corridor we do not have a signature under the monroe convention, but why is it not implemented there . It is written in black and white that if there are actions by the state that harm the economy of business in the black sea area, appropriate actions are taken and there is a coalition even but this is not done from here ukraine takes an absolutely correct position we must strive to implement the norms of International Law that guaranteed ukraines security after ukraine took the first, second, third, and fourth steps, from here it is necessary to insist on this only through this association, through joint participation, it will become clear who is the origin of this evil, who is the initiator of this war, and this will be transmitted to Public Sentiments because it is clear that Public Sentiments that do not understand what is happening, they are from this problem, blame these societies for nothing because they, i say once again, they are outside of this issue. They dont understand this war. Roman. Then i have a question for you. Look, if these people who dont understand this issue, dont understand this war, treat it like regional conflict, can it not be that after the victory of the real victory, they will treat this victory as a regional victory of ukraine, and then, well , natos entry into our nato will be delayed even further because, well, ukraine was able to win. Okay, we will simply sign with there are some agreements with ukraine that we, well, it is not known whether we will adhere to security, i have to Pay Attention to agreements on security guarantees and the like, if you say about it somehow in a conversation with you, i threw such a phrase that ukraines victory in this war on its own is not necessary, no neither ukraine nor europe nor the world because you are absolutely right in this statement when you are absolutely right because there will be no understanding of the role played by ukraine or the role played by the world in this war because some will say we gave you everything and others will say yes and so what you gave irons there, which are twenty years old, it is already elementary to see which have rusted a long, long time ago, you brought them here from here uhuh , you have to understand that we started the corresponding actions with you, that the form and content they must be so adequate and correspond to the purpose just as for the top Political Leadership of ukraine there is no answer to the question of what victory is in this war, there is none , including in europe, because some are worried about saving the face of the kremlin, others are worried about the fact that there are Nuclear Weapons and you need to know how to understand the limit, some also talk about the fact that the territory must be preserved well, and so on and so on , we talk a lot about this topic , and in fact, this is what makes up the complex of programs of problems that must be answered, and then the road will be clear and understandable, because when you do not know the goal how you will know what you need to achieve this goal. And imagine what state the military command of ukraine is in today when it does not know its resource, this resource depends on whether it will be possible to supply, agree on the supply of equipment , ammunition, equipment, etc. And this is very clearly visible about the comparison of how the actions at the front are analyzed today in many countries, those countries that helped, they are more silent, those that did nothing at all, they tell how successful or unsuccessful this offensive is. Here you go the answer is about how understandable the situation is for the world and for europe. Well, it is clear that those who are most affected by this understand the situation very well, that s why lithuanians, poles, latvians help so much, those who know what a scoop is, what a rake is and what can happen if the world does not unite its true, mr. Roman , we have to go for a short commercial now , stay with us and all the viewers, please stay. In a few minutes, we will continue this interesting conversation here. Watch this Weeks Program collaborators traitors in in robes, who planted the russian peace in the temples. Here it goes in the 16th year. They came here from dawn to meet you and how the holy fathers surrendered to the occupiers. Olena kononenko on the espresso tv channel this week in the program of judicial control with tetyana shustrava , the Disciplinary Service of the peoples republic of ukraine under the control of the judicial mafia changes to the law, which normal competition is launched and what corruption risks does the draft law contain about disciplinary inspectors who were able to get rid of themselves, watch on thursday, august 17 at 17 45 the judicial control program with tatyana shustrova on the espresso tv channel. There is no way you can rebuild it, like this house, you drive around and do something. You just forgot to go to them from zoloty. They did it in our country, and we also have to forever preserve the feeling of unity, the feeling of one people, one big family, when every ukrainian wants to be to those involved in our victory and daughter, do not give up and do not give ukraine to anyone because it is ours and we will overcome everything we will win you who are ukrainians will protect our land because we are strong, strong as the land documentary about strong ukrainians about us saturday , august 19, 11 15 Espresso Program world during the war returns to the espresso tv channel before continuing the conversation with the immortal novel i want to look on facebook to see how you answer the question does ukraine need peace talks with russia as well yes, yes, nine percent think so, 88 think no , and 2 have your option, write your option in the comments, and now we only have 705 people watching, please join, there is still time for you to hear Something Interesting from a conversation with an immortal diplomat politician plenipotentiary and extraordinary ambassador of ukraine to belarus in 20102011, mr. Roman , lets talk a little bit about the black sea grain initiative. I mean the turkish mass media have said that putin can go to ankara even this week within the next few days and it is obvious that one of the main topics of their conversation will be the resuscitation of the black sea grain initiative. I have a question for you. Tell me please, do we ukrainians need to revive this initiative now, because we can already see it, we have already made it clear to the russians that we can defend it ourselves, we have to build some alternative ways, and by reviving this grain initiative, we this is my opinion, lets help russia send its grain, its good potash, and so on. How do you feel about it . Well, the first thing you need to Pay Attention to here is that if you are part of some civilized society, then it is very important to compare your interests, lets say, to understand what National Interests are. The interests of ukraine, but there are the interests of turkey, there are the interests of many participants in the process in the black sea and the mediterranean region, and they must be discussed, they must be worked out in some way with a view to a common interest, i was once asked by about the fact that what role does fuhrer moskovskiy and erdogan, the president of turkey, play in this situation . To which i replied that , in fact , it is turkey that is trying to pull all this on itself, because it is in the first place, and its interests are being realized, and this is very important understand when we are talking about the grain agreement, and the second is definitely for fiolermoscow and the grain agreement and the fulfillment of those requirements that are talked about very little and they do not know about them, but in fact, the export of russian mineral fertilizers, the export of russian grain and so on, and what are they are seeking the unblocking of accounts in russian banks, admission to the settlement system, these are the prerequisites that the kremlin constantly sets for the reanimation of the grain vision of the grain agreement that operated from here, it is obvious that from the point of view of the interest and the economic interest of turkey, behind which there is definitely an interest, including erdogan himself his family. On the other hand, the political , military, and political interests of russia coincide. Moreover, remember the recent talks about the so called energy hub on the territory common turkey. Well, and many, many other things. Well, the relations between the European Community and erdogan, they are known to everyone, they are based on the phrase we knocked on your door , that is, turkey, you did not want to accept us. To the point that as soon as this situation arises , problems arise with the socalled other straits of the bosphorus and the dardanelles, because in this situation , according to the Montreux Convention, turkey plays the role of the operator, but the monroe bosporus and the dardanelles according to the convention, monroe is under international control. This is the result of many decadeslong wars , in which virtually all of europe participated in how the regime of these straits should work. It is so obvious that the topic, and here i am sorry, i touched on one problem, there is no one, you will not see sanctions from the European Union ah, the United States of america, actually, about sanctions in relation to agricultural products, about Food Products or mineral fertilizers from russia, they should have calmly exported them all the time, but here is the problem. Why did they lean against a blind wall aa insurance because the problem is what to drive. And if they cannot provide security, then what can they be, what can be the insurance from International International companies. By the way, this problem will remain in the future so that it does not happen, it will not be possible to implement it, it will remain and eh it is clear that behind this is pushing ukraine out of the international market. This is obvious because there are four parameters according to which the chicken farm is among the leaders of the world agricultural market. But will russia take this market . No, it will not because she has neither the potential nor the opportunities. But with that, the russians clearly dreamed in the head of fior moskovsky to tame the poor african states by starving. It is necessary to understand that hunger for the fuhrer, as for moscow, is a tool for achieving a political goal, and we understand this very well. We ukrainians who survived the terrible famine that was organized by the moscow communist leaders, now in relation to the countrys interest in this situation , even in spite of the fact that there is a war, the volumes of grain cultivation are huge by world standards standards, if last year, in the year of the war, and the war, using everything possible, ukraine exported more than 30 million grains thats without oil and oilseeds, you can imagine what this means for the modern world , it is clear that it should be taken out by Rail Transport or interacting through other ports without additional costs and infrastructure development, such volumes are impossible therefore , it is obvious that it takes time to compensate, as you correctly say , to deal with this issue on your own , it is obvious to me that if the norms are fully used the Montreux Convention is to do nothing. In fact, the guarantees of the implementation of this convention are great britain, france, and italy, which repeatedly in history, when such issues arose, organized a military naval squadron and were the guarantors of security in this region, moreover, even from the point of view of turkey, and the convention provides that if one of the countries feels a threat to its own economic interests, then fire to that. What to block, dont let there and so on. And so on. Ships and so on from my point of view. It is necessary to return to consideration of the implementation of this convention aa, including whether within the framework of the meeting aa of the socalled forum of the Global Peace Forum or the positions that will be there documents or separately within the framework of the implementation of the Montreux Convention as a separate meeting to gather and discuss this issue and through the fact that an International Squadron will be formed that will go to the black sea and displace this elk the russian flounder that swims there on the black sea and will accordingly ensure the transportation of grainsports of ukraine. I really hope that the representatives of the president s office ukrainians are watching today. After all, why hope . I know that they are watching because screenshots have been repeatedly posted on the internet, they are watching this program and they have heard you, your advice, and maybe maybe they are doing it, but somehow they dont really believe me, sir roman and now i have a question that i just have to ask you, considering that you worked for two years as the extraordinary plenipotentiary ambassador of ukraine in belarus, and therefore you know the internal belarusian cuisine. Well , you probably are one of those who know best it is lukashenko. Please tell me, i heard an opinion about that and it is probably the case that the wagnerites do not obey lukashenko, but they obey putin directly and they carry out the orders that the bunker gives them. And tell me, please, does lukashenko obey putin and is there any moment lukashenko will be able to betray putin if he submits to the first ee. Lukashenko did not have any independence in his actions and in principle will not. The autonomous regime is subordinate to moscow, lets say the troops are managed by the general staff of the Russian Federation with the security system, the fsb is actually managed by today if you look at the agreements within the state of the republic of belarus, the republic of belarus, the Russian Federation, then there is one center in them , this is moscow. Absolutely clearly says that the management of these security spheres is in moscow, moreover, if you touch on the issue of finances, tax collection taxes, we say value added tax this is exactly how everything is collected in moscow and then distributed within the framework of the socalled customs union, he is talking about the fact that lukashenko has the right to some independence. He is there, he cannot take a single step without getting a command or agreeing it with the moscow furore, it is not by chance that he goes there so often because a number of questions arise and the economy is under manual control. In fact, this is the economy of the posttotalitarian collective farmsoviet system, that is why there are constantly questions about which he has to go to the fuhrer and agree on all the necessary things up to the internal financial balance of the banking system, e. E. Social payments and so on. Of the government of belarus when it is not now but when it is 1011 years ago why did you come to me, go to moscow and agree on these issues, and these are things that were related to absolutely economic problems of contracts between ukrainian and Belarusian Enterprises from here it is obvious to me that there is absolutely no possibility of the right to independence when lukashenka is there, if he starts to uh , jerk off, they will simply remove him, well, he will choke there when during breakfast, thats why it is obvious and clear to me here that the story with the wagnerites, uh, is included in the situation moving to belarus is not lukashenkas proposal ; moreover, lately i have read that the wagnerites can leave, that they are not financed by moscow, if the fuhrer says to finance lukashenko, he will not pay pensions and will finance the wagnerites, so in this case lets say it is necessary to proceed from the fact that the goal was set in front of you with pencils and their stay in belarus and then answer the question of who is financing, financing, how much will be financed, because well, we are not at the same level. People, we understand very well that even 75 or four, as they write being an instructor and training so many people is not necessary for a 40,000 strong ground army and a 17,000strong corps well, a specialist who is a contractor well, i really had to ask you this question because i knew that you would answer it like snow and almost an insight although with the rest you gave an insight regarding your meetings with the vicevice prime ministers, did you say yes or no . Yes , well, lets listen to one direct speech. Shaygu said last week during one of the meetings with his followers, lets listen to his questions, there are plans to create a regular polishukrainian union, ostensibly for the security of western ukraine, essentially for the subsequent occupation of this territory романы, why are the russians spreading this topic like this, the polish takeover of western ukraine is possible. Pay attention to such a thing , the relations between ukraine , hungary , ukraine, romaniaukraine , israel. Answer the question from the point of view of the discourse of relations there ee ukraine hungary ukraine romaniaukraine poland and do not see that all these tragedies, all these historical torments in our relations are bilateral usually generated by the kremlin, and from the biggest and most painful topic of the volyn tragedy to ukraine, israeli relations. If only we could imagine that such happiness would happen, that moscow and all this bastardry that is strictly muscovite would not have taken part, and such problems would never have arisen. And now, when you read there some information attacks , you understand that we will either come to our senses and understand that all this was generated by the imperial and communist policies of the muscovite state of muscovy, the empire of the soviet union, the current russian empire and so on and about him, we just need to put him in his place and say that all this is the result of what role moscow played in the fate of all these peoples, remove it and Start Building bilateral bilateral relations from here. Well, who does not know that the lithuanianpolish ukraine the battalion has been in existence since 1998, who did it occupy , where did it occupy, and so on, this is an attempt by joint efforts, er, in some way, to arrange the realization of your own interests. From the point of view of even your own experience, remember all those shots at the consulate in lutsk, and here are the obscenities at the burials of the archers , or the eagles, and so on. Well, i name for you a person who, lets say, knows all this subject in order not to take up time e words that you understand. No matter where you look, you will see the russian trail everywhere, so i very much ask you to look at all these things from the point of view of what russia is doing. What we have just heard from this russian minister of war is another attempt to throw into our discourse with you to the poles of lithuanian lithuanians, the topic of some fascination there and so on. It is clear that this is another provocation so that people, normal people , spend time answering it, explaining it and so on, and why does it matter, too . It is clear , because in these things there is a state level, there is a political level, there is a legal one there is level a, give a Household Level, and there is everything at the Household Level. Because as it is written in the holy scriptures, everyone has everything, and it is necessary. Relations, but forgive me. When i see that an issue from the Household Level rises to the level of the state, it means that it is a disorder. Here we, er, on the example of this minister of war rashensky, i saw how they take this topic, which was actually created by the russian imperial policy towards the two peoples, the confrontation of these peoples well, they are being dragged in on the surface, but i had to ask you exactly this question in order to get exactly this answer from you, so that the audience would hear about this very thing, that this is an attempt by the russian imperial power to push us together from the poles of realism, it is actually ethnic groups, National Groups and so on, because they make Imperial Capital on this and it has always been like that. Well, i can talk endlessly about how the squads were formed that suppressed the uprising there, whether in poland or vice versa in ukraine or in belarus, even the situation of relations with hungary and so on. Well, whoever dealt with these issues knows the historical canvas, you understand that there was no place without imperial racism here, and we will now protest against this imperial racism and we will defeat it in the end roman, thank you very much for participating in todays program. Thank you very much for your professional, as always, answer. Roman, the immortal diplomat , politician, ambassador extraordinary and plenipotentiary of ukraine to belarus in 20102011, was a guest of todays program, they talked about a lot and i heard a lot of interesting things, even insights well whats up now quick while i still have a few minutes left you know seconds looked on youtube on youtube we are watched by 1030 people it is on a separate channel created for the world during the war thank you all infinitely 219 people responded to question does ukraine need peace talks with russia 10 think so , 85 think no, and your option is five percent your option i really hope you wrote in the comments so that i read them and so that everyone will read them who will watch i am forced to complete this program due to lack of time , complete only now. We will meet next monday. There will be new topics, there will be new guests. 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