Transcripts For ESPRESO 20240704

Were damaged there, and the remains of the furniture and, hmm, what was managed to be saved from the books were also badly damaged. That well, if the armed forces of ukraine even repress the body, although it is now very premeditated to do it, we are talking about certain raids, we are talking about certain well, there is information that the armed forces of ukraine broke up a group of russians near the cossack ee camps there are certain moments, but we understand that it is useless now to talk about any significant pushback of the enemy away from the left bank, deep into the left bank, therefore the enemy will continue to shell kherson with rockets and other means with their ballistics and artillery projectiles. And not only that it is a threat to the life and health of people, it is just a threat to the energy system, the infrastructure, etc. Well , in any case, and since it will be autumn and winter , it is also heat and electricity. I read here , too, that there are problems with electricity all the time in kherson and in the kherson oblast, and many more people, in your opinion, will now temporarily leave kherson. After all, having experienced such a difficult year in such an already vacated place, people will not be in a hurry to leave the city, you know. It seems to me that now the situation will more or less become who wanted to go after the tragedies that happened after the deoccupation, the shelling after the flooding of the kakhova hydroelectric power station, they had already made a decision, that is, a certain time had passed and people saw what they should do. Enough of us flowed with them. That is, we can charge ee power bank on solar batteries from the sun in december, that is, something that cannot be done , for example, in kyiv or lviv. Yes , that is, it is quite warm here, and people have already experienced one terrible winter. It is quite possible that e most likely, in my opinion and in the opinion of my friends with whom we communicate, it is unlikely that there will be a large exodus of people from the city, because it is very difficult to call home to those who survived in these houses and the occupation, shelling and flooding of the kakhovskaya hydroelectric power plant, a lot of those who survived the flooding even just uprooted the houses, but i stayed in the city because it was very difficult to throw away my own and it was difficult for me to go too, and i am at home quite often because, well , it draws me home , people will often come. Shelling, for someone to recover after the flooding, but to restore the ruins, therefore , in my opinion , there will be no great and lasting meaning, although again it will be very difficult , but one difficult winter, the townspeople have already there were more shelters that survived, for example, last winter there were almost none of them or they were demined, they were demined and are still being demined, some of the shelters have become more supportive programs, so most likely i think that people will still stay and at the bus stop i will ask here what they say the hard life of a traitor collaborator the man who seized power in the regional Childrens Hospital when kherson was occupied by the russians and then fled with his new masters from kherson. And now he is writing silver letters to moscow they say that he has no job, no money, and no one to give him money to go to barnaul, because he has a father with barnaul, he really wants to go to barnaul, he doesnt have enough money, and they wont hire him anywhere, well, in those territories where i go i understand that he is now somewhere in muscovy. Well, he doesnt have any work, what am i leading to . Well , first of all, do you remember this character . Or not to them now they are somewhere there they quietly sit and think to themselves, no matter what, or even maybe not quietly. Maybe you still know that they have gained courage and are already entering a new government, somewhere in a new job, some big wheel is not moving forward, please, now ask very relevant questions by the way, i know this gentleman, he is one of the collaborators he is a pseudohead of the Regional Hospital under the occupiers, who was also related to the removal of children , the content and children from orphanages, there were many investigations by the media about this matter , by the way, we were still joking during the occupation joked a lot about the fact that he will still complain about how bad it is for him in russia. Well, this time has come. In fact, there are a lot of collaborators who, lets say, have not been enlightened. That is, there are still supporters of the russian peace in the city. There are those who, in my opinion, the opinion of my friends and some colleagues are occupiers. They were simply left to observe. Perhaps they are tangential to the adjustment of the shelling , thats why the city is restless in the city. Its still a long time before they are completely cleared of collaborators. Little by little, they want to infiltrate the authorities, by the way, this is in particular the relatives of the collaborators, to whom there are no official complaints. I thank you very much for the conversation. Yevgenia virlych, the editorinchief of the kherson edition of kavuncity e, was with us about the situation in kherson. Today is the day of mourning. People died as a result of enemy shelling. And one family was completely killed by the russians, now we will talk about the war in more detail with serhii zurets, director of the defense express agency of the world, why are we bulls , military summaries of the day serhiy, i congratulate you our viewers, today i will ask you such a tricky question while we are waiting for the taurus from the referees. I think everyone in ukraine knows everything about the taurus and the radius of the flight and the combat part, well, in general , its just that there are no taurus in the taurus specialists, but here we are getting an unmanned one from the rain Metal Company the luna air system is for luna or luna , i dont know if its right for air reconnaissance, what kind of monsters are these, how will it help the bolt well, its really a new intelligence complex manufactured by the rain Metal Company, luna is in service with the bundessphere, its a complex that can there stay in the air there for up to 5 hours, the range is up to 300 km, but now we are talking about a new version, which is even more advanced, which is capable not only of reconnaissance, but also of providing even radio suppression further away , the enemy has such a complex unmanned complex, but it is necessary i still have to wait, i hope that we will receive it by the end of the year. Well, in any case, this system will really help our armed forces to better perform combat tasks on the battlefield, and further in the military column. We plan to discuss now the dynamics of frontline changes, the difficult successes of the armed forces, the harvest, the enemys attempts to break through to kupyansk and the aggressor s attempts to block civilian vessels in the black sea , i will start with the fact that today the ministry of defense recognized a number of positive changes on the front line, where significant tension without exception , but today it was reported that during the offensive actions of the Defense Forces of the tauri direction, the liberation of the village of pozhdny is continuing, it is near the previously liberated staromayurska and it is just to the east across the river of wet trees that they cautiously say that the liberation continues, even though a couple of days ago the russian public was complaining about the fact that the Russian Troops had left the Harvest Fields located on the border of the donetsk and zaporizhzhia regions, including due to the fact that the ukrainian worked well artillery, but now we see a video that is quite blurry, but it just shows the retreat of Russian Troops from the south of the fertile area, along the road there are several dozen russian soldiers moving are covered with cluster munitions and the enemy is trying to escape, but the artillery is working effectively, this is just one of the signs of how important the use of artillery is and the amount of ammunition is sufficient to implement this tactic of squeezing the enemy from the territories that the enemy is currently occupying, and here i have something about the fact that there are two tactical units, a cascade unit, and the enemys 40th marine brigade was almost completely shot down under the harvest and, if you are interested, russian public and arrows about the fact that there is a brigade that was in the rear, this is exactly how the 37th russian brigade did not come to the aid of its units, did not give tanks or more, although there were such reserves, but they were drunk. Well, as the same russian Soldiers Point out of course, this story about the liberation of the harvest is extremely important , we understand that it was not given to us easily and in all areas of the front. Now we are trying to use the opportunities that we have as effectively as possible, which allow us to destroy the enemy and squeeze his enemy out of our territory and and although further we understand that we are already approaching the enemys main line of defense , this is just behind staro maiorskyi , behind staromivka. This main line of defense is just beginning and where we are also wedged into this defense of the enemy, which is very densely mined, and the thief took this time to somehow distract our forces from the south from the fighting around bahmut, trying to intensify the fighting around the line itself of the front starting from kupyansk to svatovoy and to krymina, if that is where it is happening now, we will talk to people who know you much better than we do. Now we are joined by the commander of the attack Drone Company of the 92nd separate mechanized brigade, yuriy fedorenko, mr. Yuriy, i congratulate you glory to ukraine glory to the heroes thank you for finding the opportunity to join our broadcast, as you know, your brigade performs tasks in several directions literally yesterday , the commander surrendered, then the troops, the syrian general personally praised the courage of individual soldiers of your brigade said that it is operating in the most difficult directions, but we also know that the enemy has intensified its actions around kupyansk, there are active combat operations of the enemy in order to advance towards sinkivka, there is various information, etc. What do you now know about of combat operations around kupyansk, we continue to carry out combat missions in the last 7 days, only in short, narrow locations, six units of Armored Vehicles were destroyed, namely tanks of various modifications, respectively, you can imagine about the intensity of hostilities, if the enemy has more than a tank platoon, two tank formations have been placed on one short stretch, to take such short periods of time, respectively , the main resource that the enemy continues to use is manpower for a short tobitin of the front in one day , the enemy can lose up to a company, it is mainly representatives are mobilized as well as the socalled storms z. These are the persons who were deprived of their liberty in the territory of the Russian Federation. Now, for amnesty and wages, they went to kill ukrainians, to fight against ukraine, these are expenses materials that the enemy mainly uses for demining the territory, that is, they always go first, they may not be Armored Vehicles, the only thing is that before the offensive, of course, the enemy artillery worked out, therefore the power of the harrow works powerfully enough as an aerial reconnaissance from the point of view of detection, from the point of view of detection and control of artillery fire in order to to destroy the enemy s artillery and also to work for the forbidden house is meant when there is no opportunity to get directly into it, but the rent lies very close to them, forced to rearrange its cannon and, accordingly, the number of shelling on our positions and postfont cities and villages decreases because the enemy continues to randomly fire not only on the position of his defense but also on civilian cities, so at the moment, in heavy battles, the Defense Forces managed to stabilize the situation and not lose Tactical Advantage over the enemy. I am sure that the current line of defense is so much armor that they do not simply hold back the enemys onslaught, but are in active defense where there is an opportunity to renew the enemys position knocks it out of those positions, respectively, deals with the Defense Forces. In particular, i would like to sincerely thank every ukrainian who continues to help the Defense Forces move in unison, that friends, only together we can be effective in the fight against the enemy, and in order to live safely in our country, we have get victory right on the battlefield p yurii i would like to ask about the number of drones for various purposes at our disposal and at the disposal of the enemy , because now when we talk to volunteers or the military they say that drones are needed more and more, our government figures say that they are doing the maximum that they can do, they are creating conditions for increasing the number of drones on the battlefield, but what do you feel as the main person who uses drones for both reconnaissance and strike functions, it is necessary to start with the fact that the drone this is an expendable material, both a drone and a wing of the reconnaissance type act well, and of course shock events, respectively, as a result of the action of enemy rap as a result of the action of enemy air defense, as well as unfavorable minute conditions, even just small arms, a significant number of reconnaissance devices and striketype actions, the repeated use of which is lost in the separation conditionally, not two parts are you Unmanned Aerial Vehicle is being prepared in our country and is also provided by partner countries as part of military aid, here it is necessary to emphasize the fact that in the last 8 months about the objective number of Domestic Production volumes of this type of Unmanned Aerial Vehicles has also increased in ukraine it is probably the first country that independently developed and effectively uses the socalled night bombers in combat operations and the enemy calls it a babayaga. This is a sufficiently powerful weapon, due to which it is possible not only to exert influence on the enemys firing positions or papyrops, but also to effectively take out Armored Vehicles. It also adds up with its stockpile of ammunition for and mtz, the number of such drones, as well as the pace of their production , will be adjusted in the state, we can say that there is a positive in this direction the trend, and god forbid that it be maintained with such dynamics, a number of decisions were made that somewhat simplified the importation of components that we need for the manufacture of Unmanned Aerial Vehicles within the country, and all that needs to be done now is to increase the pace , and it is really being done. As for civil copters and which everyone is used to, including our viewers, this is dj magic 3, which can be used for reconnaissance at night, these are expendable materials produced in china, they provide an effective front monitor at the front line, they adjust the artillery of small caliber tanks, including large artillery, and at the expense of them, you can bring a gift to the enemys position. As for the life span of one tractor, it can be two days, it can be a week, it can be a month, but in individual cases in those areas where there are intense combat operations , in particular in kupyansk or bakhmutskyi, for more than a week, according to my belief, the copter does not live , therefore they are needed in quantity, the state can objectively fully cover all the existing need for combat dynamics actions are extremely large, therefore, for a certain time, of course, it is designed to support the ukrainian nation. Because the more things in the air and the opportunity to detect and hit the enemy, the more we save the lives of our infantrymen, who, i believe, perform an incredibly difficult job, boys and girls of steel, because where there is a leg of our infantry this land is objectively considered to be deoccupied. And can we say that these semiguns or attack drones are slowly trying to displace the artillery, or are they still not a proportional part of the combat forces the functions performed by artillery and attack drones no, the concept cannot be changed in any way because this is an additional element of the Defense Force , namely fpvt attack copters what did you say . It is still being imported from other countries, but it must be understood that one copter costs 500, if we are talking about bucket projects. He says , for example, it is capable of destroying an artillery installation that is worth over 5 million there , or we had precedents of impressions when managed to damage the buk antiaircraft Missile System or the torsr antiaircraft Missile Defense system worth over 16 million dollars, and accordingly, if it is hit, we did not even destroy it, we understand that it will not be in firing positions, a certain part of this gives us opportunities for flight corridors in order to fly in heavier , relatively speaking, reconnaissance means and how as a result, this leads to the detection of a thief, giving him a hundred percent impression , it is also worth saying about it, for now , i think that it is three to one, that is, for one of our copters, the enemy has three of his fvs but at the same time, according to the statistics that can be read, the defense village uses them more effectively, only the units that i have the honor of leading yesterday have two tanks knocked out, one bmp of the enemy, two urals , and an impression was also made directly on the enemys infantry positions approximately at that place you are antitank of the enemy , it is not bad enough. There were physical blows on the ceiling, how reliable is this system now, because there were reports in foreign media that sometimes the enemy tries to attack the starling, it is absolutely true , in some places it partially succeeds, but in general, thank god, the old women work and its functionality is also carried out by the engineering opinion that exists inside ukraine. I simply see it already. I am convinced that over time we will be able to make the rifles work even when the enemy is suppressed, because sooner or later he adapts to this after a certain modernization is already within our country, it will cost additional money, it will cost time for this, Power Capacity is needed, but the main thing is that there is an engineering opinion that has already been partially implemented in practice. And this is very, very good , it indicates that we will to have constant communication for the execution of combat tasks, both between units and directly, is the adjustment of artillery fire , and in addition, the functionality, which we will not talk about on the general air. Of our country for all of us and our viewers, i would like to remind you that yury fedorenko was the commander of a company of unmanned attack aircraft complexes of the 92nd separate mechanized brigade on the air of a class request, and then about another topic about the russian attacks on the ship that was a step okan it happened on the morning of august 13 various information that the russians opened warning fire at the turkish cargo ship, and there were also various video frames that they were trying to land there with their helicopter, and then there was information that this was not quite the case other nuances from the point of view of interpretation, but in any case, it was a pirate act of the Russian Federation in the black sea, which in fact violates all the rules of navigation in any water area. Lets talk with our next guest, we are joined by a naval expert of the defense express agency, the captain of the first morning of retirement , Volodymyr Zablotskyi, volodymyr. I congratulate you , i am glad to see and hear not reciprocated. I congratulate you , mr. Serhiy. I want to ask you if there is any extreme information regarding the assessment of the actions of the russians. Was it really the maintenance of the vessel by the representatives of the russian navy, how did the situation develop and what consequences could there be . Unfortunately its true they landed first they opened such warning fire along the course of the court which refused to stop at first and let me remind you that it was 12 miles beyond the territorial waters of turkey, that is, it was moving towards turkey, then it went into neutral waters, well or by accident or well, maybe they wanted to cut the course to get there faster, although in order to go to izmail and it was better for him to go directly through turkish waters well, but it happened as it happened after it stopped anyway, uh, a care team was dropped on him from a helicopter, which carried out an inspection, as we can see here, its fine, the helicopter didnt land on fuel , no, it didnt do anything like that, it didnt hang around, as we can see, the paratroopers, the Maintenance Group of the marines, ee , landed directly on the ships fuel, and here they are walking there, doing something, the team is sitting here that is, their pirates do the same thing and the samoli pirates, they drive the entire team to the deck and under the control of the machine gunners do their dirty work , lets say so, after that the ship was released and according to the latest data, it changed its course to follow the sulin, romanian well this may be an intermediate point of followup. Maybe, well, it is not known how. And as for izmail, well, we will see what happens next. Well, here it is rather interesting in fact , it is not where this vessel went, then it went to what the russians are doing, which they said is absolutely correct, how somali pirates arise the question how to counter what is the optimal way to put an end to such provocative actions of the russian navy, what are the possible versions and actions, well, what are the versions , firstly, the turkish ship, turkeys reaction , we have not yet seen nato as nato turkey is a member of nato and well, it could somehow react, and it doesnt react yet, unfortunately. Well, as for pirates, there are always more pirates, but this is the practice. I will remind you that we have means to destroy russian ships even in the area where it happened. I will remind you. That at least the last two attacks, including that of ivan kors, took place precisely in the southwestern part of the black sea, that is, lets wait. Maybe we will see Something Like that, and well, that will calm the point of view , because we also declared that we would counter our ministry of defense made a mirror statement to the request of the russians regarding the prohibited zone , the zone of navigation and control of vessels heading to ukrainian ports. Well , well see. Well, its not quite a symmetrical answer. But nevertheless, we cant take care of it. Unfortunately, we dont have such the possibilities of the ship heading there, but we can act accordingly asymmetrically, that is, with the forces that we currently have at our disposal. Since the 21st, there seems to be no end date , that is, a ban, that is, a zone, a danger zone around those six russian ports, navigation in relation to ukrainian occupied ports, it does not have the right to an end date, that is, we can still do it well up to until until until where it will be needed, here we see so it is on the course now , mr. Volodymyr, but regarding the action of turkey, it is now, well, the most such player in the black sea. It actually determines the nuances associated with this end of monterio and there is such a situation that if one of the countries feels there is probably not a danger there, because it is a serious danger, it is for its own economic interests, then the anchor has the right to block er, er, individual warships of this or that country, can we expect that turkey will go this way or another version is a return to this concept of creation, remember the blackforce, where there is a country, turkey , bulgaria, romaniaukraine, it creates the appropriate joint military naval groups that can solve joint tasks in the interests of the security of all black sea countries , so there are two versions turkey and the creation of the leciforce, what do you think about this . Well, i think that turkey is in itself and your body would like to trade with us in the future. It has a lot of profits from trade with russia. He also supports us there, etc. He, uh, well, he will not go in violation of the convention, travels and will not miss well, how will they miss if there is a need , uh, nato ships, but only for the period stipulated by this convention, that is, well, more than a month and under certain conditions, there are our even more so, as far as nato ships are concerned, at one time there was a proposal even before the annexation of crimea , back then, about the creation of a nato fleet in the black sea, that is, turkey, romania , bulgaria, they could create such a centralized nato fleet that operated within the framework of the same well, such a grouping for myself as part of the lexiforce wellknown wellknown annual exercises. Where did they participate . By the way, the partner countries, that is, ukraine and georgia, but this did not happen, not because of the objection of the bulgarian president , the great borisovich , who said that we do not need this, we are friends with russia, that we do not need a war for that that etc. , that is, both proposals have the right to exist, so to speak. But now i dont see any reason to activate any of them. Volodymyr, thank you very much for these explanations. I will remind our viewers that the film espresso is a naval expert agencies of the defense express captain of the first rank retired Volodymyr Zablotsky this is how the main wars were, the results of this day and more international and Economic News later from my colleagues in the great air, so stay tuned to the