The moscow figure and the grain agreement and the fulfillment of those requirements that are talked about very little and they are not known about them, but actually the export of russian mineral fertilizers, the export of russian grain and so on and what are they are seeking the unblocking of accounts in russian banks, admission to the Settlement System , these are the prerequisites that the kremlin constantly sets for the reanimation of the new corridor of the grain agreement, which operated from here , it is obvious that from the point of view of the interest of economic interest, and that of turkey, behind which there is definitely an interest, including that of erdogan himself and his family. On the other hand, the political interest of militarypolitical russia , they coincide, especially since you remember the recent talks about the socalled energy hub on the territory of turkey. Well, and much, much more others well, the relations between the European Community and erdogan , they are known to everyone, they are based on the phrase we knocked on you, that is, turkey, you did not want to accept us. National interests to the point that as soon as this situation arises , there are problems with other straits, not the bosphorus and dardanelles, because in this situation, according to the Montreux Convention, turkey plays the role of operator, but the monroe bosphorus and dardanelles , according to the Montreux Convention, is under international control. The result of many tenyear wars in which virtually the whole of europe took part in how the regime of these straits should work, it is so obvious that the topic and here, sorry, i touched on one problem, you will not see it anywhere the sanctions of neither the European Union nor the United States of america are actually about sanctions in relation to Agricultural Products , about Food Products or mineral fertilizers of russia, they should have calmly exported them always, but here is the problem. Can provide security , what can be, what can be the insurance from International International companies, by the way, this problem will remain in the future, so that it does not happen, it will be possible to implement it, it will not be possible, it will remain, and it is clear what is behind this is to push ukraine out of the international market. It is obvious because there are four parameters according to which the chicken farm is among the leaders of the world agricultural market. But will russia take this market . Fior of moscow to tame poor african states by starving, it is necessary to understand that hunger for the fuhrer as for moscow is a tool for achieving a political goal, and this is very well understood by ukrainians who survived the terrible famine that was organized by the moscow by the communist leaders now regarding the interest of the country in this situation, even despite the fact that there is a war, the volumes of grain cultivation are huge by world standards, if last year in the year of the war , and the war, using everything possible, ukraine exported more than 30 million grains this without oil and oilseeds, you can imagine what this means for the modern world , it is clear that it is impossible to export such volumes by Rail Transport or interoperable through other ports without additional costs and infrastructure development. Therefore it is obvious that it takes time to compensate, as you say correctly, to deal with this issue on your own, it is obvious to me that if you fully apply the norms of the Montreux Convention, then at least do nothing , in fact, the guarantees of the implementation of this convention are in great britain, france, italy , which have repeatedly arisen in history when such a question was organized by a naval squadron and were the guarantors of security in this region, moreover, even from the point of view of turkey, and the convention provides that if any of the countries feels a threat own economic interests, then fires to what to block, not to let in there , and so on, and so on, ships and so on, from my point of view. And first of all, ukrainian diplomacy must return to consideration of the implementation of this convention aa, including whether within the framework of the meeting a and the socalled forum of the global forum of peace or positions, what documents will be there or separately within the framework of the implementation of the Montreux Convention as a completely separate meeting to gather and discuss this issue and through the fact that an International Squadron will be formed which will go into the black sea and displace all these russian boats that float on the black sea and, accordingly, will ensure the transportation of grainsports of ukraine. I really hope that the representatives of the office of the president of ukraine are looking at today. After all , why hope . I know that they are looking at that that screenshots have been repeatedly posted on the internet, they watch this program and they have heard you, your advice, and maybe maybe they do it, but somehow they dont really believe me, mr. Roman, and now i have a question well, i have to ask you, taking into account the fact that you worked for two years as the extraordinary plenipotentiary ambassador of ukraine in belarus, and therefore you know the internal belarusian cuisine. And it is probably the case that the wagnerites do not obey lukashenko, but they obey putin directly and they carry out the orders that the bunker gives them. And tell me, please, does lukashenko obey putin and is there any moment lukashenko will be able to betray putin if he is subject to the first ere, there was no independence in lukashenkas actions, there is none, and in principle there will be none. And now it is necessary to divide him and the actual troops, the infrastructure, the state system, and so on, it is completely autonomously subordinated to moscow , lets say the troops are managed by the general staff of the russian federation, the Security System manages the fsb, in fact, to this day, if you look at the agreements within the state of the republic of belarus , the republic of belarus, the russian federation, then there is one center in them, this is moscow. Next what it is also necessary to understand that even the military doctrine absolutely clearly states that the management of these security spheres is located in moscow; moreover, if you touch on the issue of finances, taxes, tax collection, lets say value added tax, then this is exactly how everything is collected in moscow and then distributed within the framework of the so called cast union, see to talk about the fact that lukashenko has the right to some independence. Well, if the roof is finally gone, he can rebel , but the situation he is in, he cannot take a single step without getting command or to agree with the moscow fuhrer, it is not by chance that he goes there so often because a number of questions arise and the economy is under manual control. In fact, this is the economy of the posttotalitarian collective farmsoviet system, so there are constantly questions on which he must go to the fuhrer and agree on all the necessary things to the internal financial balance of the banking system, e. E. , social payments and so on. Well , you understand, you are talking to a person who had to hear from the deputy prime ministers of the government of belarus, when is it . Not now, but when. 1011 years old why did you come to me, go to moscow and agree on these issues, and these are things that related to, well, absolutely economic problems of contracts between ukrainian and Belarusian Enterprises , from here it is obvious to me that there is absolutely no possibility of the right to independence when lukashenka starts e they will simply remove him, well, he will choke there when during breakfast, that is why it is obvious and clear to me that including the situation with the wagnerites, their movement to belarus is not lukashenkas proposal anymore i recently read about the fact that the wagnerites can leave, that they are not financed by moscow, if the fuhrer says, er, to finance lukashenko, he will not pay pensions and will finance the wagnerites, so in this case , lets say that it is necessary to proceed from the fact that the goal set for the vamiryulites and their stay in belarus, then answer the question of who is financing , financing, how much will be financed, because well, we are not naive people, we understand very well that even 7 thousand five or four, as they say, well, in order to be training instructors, you dont need so many people the 40,000strong ground army and the 17,000strong corps. Well, a specialist who is a contractor. Well, i really had to ask you this question because i knew that you would answer it like this, almost an insight. However, you also gave an insight regarding your meetings with the ee vice vice prime ministers, did you say yes or no, yes . Well, now lets listen to one direct speech. This is the minister of war , as long as the russian federation, as well as the federation serhii shaigu said. Question there are plans to create on a regular basis the socalled polishukrainian union ostensibly to ensure the security of western ukraine. In fact, for the subsequent occupation of this territory, novels, why are the russians now dispersing the topic of the possible polish takeover of western ukraine . Hungary ukraine romaniaukraine israel and it hurts me a lot when i read polish experts there or ukrainian or hungarian or romanian or israeli and who actually respond to issues from the point of view of the discourse of relations there, ee, ukraine, hungary, ukraine, romaniaukraine, poland, and they do not see that all these tragedies, all these historical torments in our bilateral relations are usually generated by the kremlin, and from the biggest and most painful topic of the volyn tragedy to ukraine, israeli relations. I was so lucky that moscow and all this scumbag, which is strictly moscow, would not have participated here, and such problems would never have arisen. Do you understand that we will either come to our senses and understand that all this was generated by the imperial chauvinistic policy of the muscovite state of muscovy, the empire of the soviet union, the current russian empire, and so on, and about him, we just need to put him in his place and say that all this is a product of that what role did moscow play in the fate of all these peoples, remove it and Start Building bilateral bilateral relations from here. Well, who does not know that the common ukraine has a lithuanianpolish battalion that has existed since 1998, who was it occupying where he held, and so on, this is an attempt by joint efforts, uh, somehow you arrange the realization of your own interests. In lutsk, and here are the obscenities at the burials of the sagittarians and eagles and so on. Well, i will name for you a person who, lets say , knows all this subject matter in order not to take up time. A russian trace can be seen i really ask you to look at all these things from the point of view of what russia is doing, what we have now heard from this russian minister of war is another attempt to throw into our discourse with you in relation to the poles of lithuanian lithuanians the topic of some fascination there and so on , it is clear that this is another a provocation in order for people, normal people, to spend time answering it, explaining it, and so on , and why does it matter, too . It is clear, because in these things there is a state level, there is a political level, there is a legal level, and there is a household, and there is everything at the Household Level, because as it is written in the holy scriptures, everything is everything and it is necessary. But one thing is the Household Level, what they talk to each other in the kitchen. It is a completely different matter it is between state relations, but forgive me. When i see that an issue from the Household Level rises to the state level, it means that well there is a mess. Well, we, on the example of this minister of war rashynskyi, saw how they take this topic, which was actually created by the russian imperial policy in relation to two peoples , the clash of these peoples, and drag them in on the surface, but i was forced to tell you. The question is asked in order to get exactly this answer from you, so that the audience hears about this very thing, that this is an attempt by the russian imperial power to clash us with the poles, the essence of peralism is that ethnic groups , national groups, and so on are actually clashing with each other, because this is what they their capital is persian and it has always been like that. Well, i can talk endlessly about how the squads were formed that suppressed the uprising there, or in poland, or vice versa, in ukraine or in belarus, even if the situation there relations with hungary and so on. Well, whoever dealt with these issues knows the historical background, you understand that there was no place without imperial racism here, and this imperial racism, now we are resisting and will defeat it in the end. Roman, thank you very much for participating in todays program. Thank you very much for your experts as usual answer roman immortal diplomat politician extraordinary ambassador of ukraine in belarus in 20102011 was a guest of today s program they talked about a lot and i heard a lot of interesting things even insights well whats up now. I have a few minutes left, you know, seconds. I looked at youtube. 1030 people watch us on youtube. This is on a separate channel created for the world during the war. Thank you all infinitely. 219 people answered the question of whether ukraine needs peace talks with russia. Yes. Believes 10 , e no believes 85 , and your option five percent is your option i really hope you wrote in the comments so that i read them and so that everyone who will watch this program is forced to do so due to lack of time finish finish just now lets meet next monday there will be new topics there will be new guests but it will be interesting as always until the meeting in ukraine at 2 p. M. And for your attention the news release on the espresso tv channel in the studio iryna
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