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Lied to our elders. Within a month, thats the latest. I will take stock. All they want is to be recognized in their own country and to be allowed to run the country themselves. Also can we help . United nations declares july the 11th on International Day of remembrance of b strep, and its a genocide putting it on a palm with a holocaust on the rwandan genocide, or by designating the 11th of july as an International Day of reflection. And come on ration of this ribbon and such mental side, we are committed to closing this gap and the institutionalized memory of this organization. Welcome to the de and manuel macro says he will delay reforms that sparked de is if that divides them a faraway french territory of New Caledonia. The french president slew nearly 17000 kilometers from paris to the archipelago, which lies east of australia. At least 6 people have died in more than a week, a violence of the times that would allow both french residents of New Caledonia to vote in local elections. President macro and said he would take stock of the situation within a month. And age and trip from paris to the pacific. Emanuel mccomb arrived in french world, New Caledonia with a clear mission. As one of the is my intention and that of my ministers and the government here is to be here with the people for every, to, into peace. Com and security. As soon as possible, you in the archipelago has been rocks by 10 days of riots in which 6 people have died and an estimated hundreds of millions of yours worth of damage has been done. The violence with spots by a buzzing reform, which critics say would dilute the voice of the indigenous kind of people who make up 40 percent of the population of chrome described beyond roost. As a totally Unprecedented Movement of insurrection, around 3000. 00 French Security personnel, or on the ground, some locals were hurtful. Mccombs visit could add weight to if thats to restore. Com, step isms of perhaps this will be some of the tensions we have on a daily basis. So i hope youll find a bit of peace in our country. On my phone, lisa announced the controversial nor change would be delayed despite insisting it is democratic. Your from showing gives us good substance. So i have pledged that this reform will not be forced through in the current context because we will allow some weeks to come. The tensions under enabled a resumption of dialogue to find a broad cold but divisions of a New Caledonia is future run date rolled from paris since being colonized in the 1800s. Many indigenous connex resigned. Frances power and want independence. The phone has signaled he wants the support for the more forms before pushing on and says he will take stock all of the situation again in one month. Lets explore this river, samuel groaner, who is an economist at the university of New Caledonia in conic a welcome to the w. What is it about these proposed focusing reforms that has so incense, so many people a toyota started the solution. Okay, you got the riser in the 1998th. We normally uh, according to our budget was for that meeting that them for people coming past or 1998. So you can vote out real quick nation. According to the provincial addiction, the section is button, i mean you can because we have this image showing that the guy that does that digital congress, which it would show and connected to roman. Okay. So yeah, for the roles and the government, but the people the vote at the spanish american votes, the vote for president should get a chance for your patients. But for the specific folder, its impossible for them to. And this was any part of it. Can you me, im among the present really so you can when you have because youve been just about g as a, dont want to be a middle retreat more, you know, which e. Okay, thats one way that the government does look, the edits are going to use that when were doing so it sounds like a power base has expanded the franchise more people on the island, people whove been there for 10 years or more on our allowed to vote so one of the arguments against that, that sounds more democratic, a special you kind of goes to lose domestic, but for, for you those people 0 where metrowood to you before the seventys. Uh so, so after that we have the regression of coming from friends and people last dimension. And thats why people gonna be potentially, but you can, yeah. And say, say that if we use the 1st row that people are coming back in 10 years and kind of wont get me the lives together. People are, wed be more and more in biology and also so these uh the scripture. So what weve had riots that weve had, buildings reduced to rubble. Weve had a 6 das president macro has blamed growing inequality full of base unrest. Im is that right . So, or is this more about these votes or reforms the, its easy stretch cuz we have new tires in, you know, thats the part of the social, anybodys. But weve come your keystone. So sure anybody gets much weaver at any point. So uh, when we bought a kind of people as an to be just one on the other, you are going to be both. So thats why its very difficult to separate what you can call so sure anybody is making in words. And this major restriction varies. Okay, so the size of, from what you said, it sounds like these changes in the, in who can vote will actually make the space social inequality was driving, make it better. Why you do you think this issue has been so important that the president macro has flown hot way around the world to intervene personally . Because she can say that she, weve jo the, the role or not hes the one side now. And the students in the best, the decision was the by to the prime minister. But the, the sous tree tree is, it was the case and may need, it says, wheres the defense presenting to, to make sure that the discussion you kind of the talk, because new, can you read the name by, but presses on the mazda. Why dont we just as many might wonder why friends is so keen to keep hold of these tiny adults in the Pacific Ocean that are closer to us drive in europe. So they have any strategic importance . Are they still the, the attribute out goes in the investigative board tons of so thoughtful for, for faster government needs to so that you, okay, when your forms best of the majority of the population, youre still in favor of independence and thats why i was so we have a solution for them to list the most. You get a kind of people once in advance and the so the most of the completion of voltage, i guess it depends. Okay, so do we have an Independence Movement that is that as long as they lost the argument, we have growing social and any quality on an island where local people are poor and your appear in income as i have more of the money way has the big the emphasis full of a slow change come from why, what is problem said this, this push to change the the voting rules or its, its difficult to answer the question, but we the, the, the 1st and due to buddy diesel saw 4 people can vote new games one, yeah, im showing nation, this is whats called the kind of notice of decision. And with that, so to have a purpose, they can find jobs easier that people coming up phone for from, from dressing assistance. And thats why its so important. So, so should windows you because people are thinking that if you take open, did you get it to everybody and then we find a job, a positive it would be harder for them to find jobs. Thats why so, so theres a bunch of few, very important and bulldozers about carrying away the rubble of what the french present as described as an unprecedented insurrection. Who picks up the top for that and is the damage is likely to be repaired quickly. Because if it gives a new guy that has just now its many, many of the fact on the saw shops in burned. So actually um, nobody or insurance with the use. But the majority seemed to be enough. 4 to 4 sides firms to reopen again. And because its, its very hard to saw, so it is one of the here and of the defense going on. See this job. We had the, the companies under the country, the jacket, the bad to be i have to be. Josh is good. Okay, thank you for joining us on real good. All from the university of new canada. Yeah, thank the Russian Media had been reporting with the rest of the armies deputy chief of staff on suspicion of taking bribes and ministry cause in moscow or that the sanction of left kind of general by the measurements for 2 months while the investigations proceed. Its the latest in a series of arrest of senior Russian Ministry. Think this began in april a little. The kremlin denies that a pie just Ministry Officials is taking place. Itll shut me off is visiting fellow with a why the youre a program out there, your pin council on foreign relations. He focuses on russia, civil and military relations, russian domestic politics and policy making. You joins us from phil. Is that welcome to the w fighting ship . Modern is the full senior Russian Ministry commander to be arrested all moved in recent months. Is this a purge . Good evening. Hello, thanks for having me. This is a perch, but the question remains was kind of 1st, whether its political or policy or image. In my view, it shows that portion is really into improving, arises, knows that capabilities and the new minister of defense needs to update his team, both within the video in history and the general stuff. And this is what were seeing now. And so what do we know about the corruption that less kind of general sure modern is alleged to have been involved in oh, actually this case is still quite unclear because what weve seen from russias independent investigative journalist, maybe its gonna say that he and his wife owns an expensive car of around 100000. 00 and 2. 00 flats, to be honest by russian standards. This is nothing and this is completely normal for um, for military have to show us such a high rank actually was even a bit low. You would expect that others who would own at least the house or chalet somewhere and this person, the general, hasnt owned anything like that. So my view, actually, on the case of this general, this is more about clearing the cleaning, the general stuff from previous and military commanders under uh, disney, no sir, show a good enough sort of free space for the future military leaders. There weve come up under minas or below says okay, so the whole shopping carts and charges against a Deputy Defense minister. Im left ton of general jewelry could snatch off, who was head of the defense ministers of personnel directorate. So this, this new room really is sweeping quite clean. What do we know about the charges against them . Oh, yes, absolutely. Actually, i would just say that it certainly doesnt matter much what are some private charges against . Indeed, it was because in russia as another try to countries quite as easy to, you know, to invent that or to create a criminal case against any officials. Because the system is designed the way that these are a really highly firing official. You deal with a lot of funds, Public Public money, and also you have some executive power. So whenever you sign off on a special document or reply to the room and document more or less, this sort of gives, gives the investigators or federal security disorders and reason to go after you once that they need it. This is how there are some of these specially some functions. Ok, but in, in a, a system that from the outside of pace to be as in the tories, me collect acrostic as russia. If a j o u for corruption, does that mean that youve been to greedy all the you, youre just stealing from the wrong people . It can actually mean both, but they are greedy and most of them are reading those core installed on the a, in the top excellence. But of course, once this decision is made to put someone in to get out, this means they ran against someone for whom they should have been gone against the so they think they are out of power in full. Yeah. Personally, now whats happening with the minister of defense, a 100 percent. Sure, that person is personally aware of this and hes sanction best contains against the military leaders. So tell us about the moms set to be behind this brush. This new defense minister andre a blue sauce whos not a military man as would normally be expected. But an economist, i didnt actually, i would start with the actually the 410. 00 was the one who began. Does the tradition of appointing civilian officials to the position of the media serve the task b, but since 2001 of the many. So you find out for that point is speaking about the hello. So i would say that she comes from the village family is dad, the letter was disorganized and beats you wouldnt be fine because the different forms Economic Reforms of 1965, jims day fellows like himself. Hes an academic policy economist. Hes been working on russias Economic Reforms, since late nines as early as seems late 198 as early as 9 to 9. This is also well known for being really religious. Like also thats christian religious box arrives from said since 2006, hes been in the federal government for the president ial administration. The famously predicted the Global Financial crisis of 2008, back in 2005. So 3 years before the, the process started, and in 2013, he joined the president ial history since you became the aid us, i would like, for example, under his diekama tenure of russias positions in the doing business. The global ranking moves from 123 to the 28th position, so he shows himself as a very capable taken product, mean assert, and economic officials that can achieve Public Policy objectives. So i think it is, it just brings a lot of support to came from looking at putting up with things. Now, especially in the rush of spend more than 7 percent of his gdc on the defense and dr. Complex and the meal treats that this person cant manage such a huge amount of money more efficiently. It can potentially bring reforms to their i should be able to. Okay, im glad you made that last part because i, i wanted to see if you could draw a line between this Defense Ministry clear out and volume. It approaches warning ukraine which has been nowhere near the lightning success that was hoped for in moscow 2 years ago. Yeah, absolutely, uh 1st impression guilty wasnt the fear for the war. They wont, they started, i think theyre really planned what they call a special meal transformations. But after a couple of months it turned out to be a global at regional war of attrition. And the music was not ready for this kind of task. And despite the realization of these mailers, under me, as theyre showing the military command also was too slow. And to be an effective, to adjusting the need to the needs of, you know, to the needs of the kremlin in ukraine. And also his president ial election goes in despite being fully, you know, a democrat and unfair. We can manage to consolidate the leads and now he has bowers to change top officials for the government and the for the minister of defense. And the countries come back from special r c. A war is one of the most powerful figures and in the russian political system. Okay, i must say id please go ahead and, but i must say this does not guarantee increase in combat the effectiveness in your brain because in the beam brush to the new address, i can defense on music generals. And now we are only seeing how they remove some of the military channels. Whats remains to be seen is whom theyre going to a point. Ok, so pulling all these threads together, some up for a for us, if you can appear into the mind the Vladimir Putin and guess what mission he gave, hes new defense administer, or they definitely want to increase the index down Domestic Production of arguments and theyve, weve been, they do want to increase the military skills stations here as commanding control and they want to improve the operation planning against you. Print. Also another form policy objective because there actually is a, is a officially saying that the area, its 4 bit west with the west and meter. I wouldnt exclude an option that they are also preparing for the voice. Worst Case Scenario is potentially expanding the conflict. I think the, all the scenarios are some where they are in the criminal and they consider it seriously. Thank you so much for joining us through that. So clearly carol shonda from the European Council on foreign relations. Thank you for in the to the un general assembly, which is voted to re establish an annual day to commemorate the strep. And it said genocide july, the 11th will be the International Day of remembrance of the strep, and its a genocide. Similar days of amendments held for the holocaust on the vermont in genocide resolution was adopted despite fear supposition from Bosnian Serbs and the sub in leadership was on that day in 1995 of bosnian serb forces, started to congress rep, brunettes, unsecure 8000. 00 amount, boston mostly men and teenagers. In july 1995 of buston and sub and serbian forces, rounded up and executed. 8000 boston yakima slim boys and men in the town of strep were needs uh, most of the victims are on. Um the United Nations had declared the enclave a Un Protection zone, but peace keepers space and they failed to intervene to the International Criminal tribunal for the former yugoslavia in the hague lights, a rule that domestic constitutes a genocide. Under a settlement to end, the war bosnia and herzegovina was divided into 2 semi autonomous zones. One for buzzing. The axe and cro ads and one for boston in subs, known as republicans steps. Got relations between the 2 entities are often tens and republic a sub scully does a calling for succession from bosnia and the union with neighboring serbia. The resolution was proposed by rolanda and germany and co sponsored by 15 countries, including the us. Proponents say it will promote peace and reconciliation, but it could have significant implications for the future of a country teetering on the edge. The. Lets go to what you and had causes in new york for the Washington Bureau chief, n s. Paul, joining us also from mazda in Bosnia Herzegovina is the w report that i, that still fits sally beg of age, a welcome. First, lets start with you. Eat us in new york. A took us through holidays and vote unfolded. No. The resolution was accepted by only a simple majority said bet means to the next year on the such as the anniversary of the massacre. That will be an International Day of comma ration. Um, i think its worth to have a little bit of a closer look to the vote. Only 84 countries voted in favor. So that means its, as i said, just a simple majority under this kind of interesting, thatd be, ron, for example, voted in favor and didnt stick with a russia because of the Muslim Brotherhood understand that you rush out of course was one of the 19 countries which oppose the volume to other countries throughout china, hungary and a serbia. Of course, what is interesting is how many countries of upstate and 68. 00 countries didnt vote in favor or oppose the resolution saying, as of the united arab emirates, for example, saying or arguing that they didnt want to deepen. The tension in the region either suffered sally, bank of hedge and both it has the government took us through political reactions to or yeah, well a survivors of the genocide in the family here because i said that this is the, the 30th to send justice, the chairman of the presidency oversight of students has one, but the, basically the 1st guy has quite a different opinion um, prior to the sky, which is the entity in the holding. I said uh on several occasions today. He was, its certainly such a day and he said clearly allow me the genocide, he didnt have time to insert it inside for days or so he has been talking about i close to peaceful separation and a 14. Okay. I mean she needs that. Like i said, well just see from the see the going out. This is something that hes been signing for many years. He mentioned that the resolution is more reason. Uh because the resolution uh he plays the blame on the assessors as they are marks as a genocide organization. So to say it was dw and what was the idea . So if its not that big of rich joining the area from both, it has the governor and Washington Bureau chief and his pole in new york, and that is the day more of close to dw i news with the w dot com on the web. The dw at social media at cdw news. What out best software have a good day the to the points, strong opinions, clear positions, international perspectives, buttons by the fall into and shows no end from being open the aggressive when you train to using hybrid meshes and countries like model law in georgia on to the point we are discussing rich strategy as working better for pointing to the point the next on d. W and conflicts with sim sebastian, the chief prosecutor at the International Criminal court. And certainly speaking arrest was for his really needed for the come back to the war in gaza. I guess this week from kind of leave is dennis ross form, especially a system to president obama and for more than 12 years. Its keith. Claire shaped the us policy conflict. In 60 minutes on d w. The music can be destroyed. You can try, but its impossible. She performed for head lice in housemates the was the nazis. The 2 musicians who lived in the Savannah Office austin about this sounds of power and inspiring story about savant music under the swastika starts may 25th on dw brand reporting has been openly aggressive and ukraine for more than 2 years now. But as far as concourse is not confined to you, hes also clearly exhibiting influence on other fama. So if you have states as well, for instance, in georgia and model of georgia has falls to controversial legislation that labels non governmental organizations as foreign agents leading to be so heavy. But that the legislation is being regarded as a copy of a similar russian law. And model of all which is due to lords president ial elections and a referendum on joining the length of this year. Russia is being accused of targeting the publics