Transcripts For DW 1945 20240703

In naples in the house next door will remedy. Weve been evacuated from munich, black. Suddenly in the night, i heard terrible screams and cries, the other troubles i noticed like what had gone there because i couldnt sleep. Thats can yes. People had come and reach the women practice every night. Were so horrendous by this law. So the, this is so much and actually it was a nation wide catastrophe. One that effected an entire generation whole for the come kind of the t, the scottish desk. How often did i hear that 70 years ago . Because i was award shows like this boxes. Ok, the id network conveyed all the hor, i didnt realize that we always said i was taken when we talked about it then that would be useful to do so realty, you felt dirty game that i come on the help site in general. So you can see that not enough have to meet of the fact that all troops committed acts of Sexual Violence fixer and the provide talking all screwed tom. These are, we have to show the soviet army, the americans, the french and the british. Glover then via drama vibe. I think that if were focusing primarily on the violet august emitted by the red army dock and they are holding a meet so constant. And then what we mean stuck in a very simplistic explanatory model. Unclear on small special the think about doing is i did right. Theres an old cultural pass in war time. Psych with the vic to shows the enemy soldiers or the phenomenon. Protect your women, mina, and its a way of diesel entering the mens military on out if you think the just about i was searching for my identity for 40 years. That is crazy thing is that this rape is what led me to be in the live. The in europe, the 2nd world war had just come to an end gym and shes a in ruins. In 1945, the months between the end of fighting and the new beginning was sort of chaos, dispatch euphoria, guilt and head. But this was also a time that proved to be especially dangerous for women. The lineup, the need clicker set somebody conservative estimate or to set the work close to 900000 rates victim all the rapes themselves, could be much higher because many victims were raped. Multiple times for to go for the body to support women were raped by allied soldiers in the 1st weeks and months after the surrender of nazi germany violated by those who came to europe as a super rates, as American British and french troops and soldiers from the soviet red, tell me this highest best. This means theres likely no German Family or family that lived in germany at the time that wasnt effected in some way. I know why is it the front, the coffee either completely to their own assault, or at least to the fear that it could happen to their own family members for this, this, i can then from in, on good feeling plus young printer the only when she was a 2 years old student maximilian, a high goes mother in law, goes speak of childhood memories of soldiers, an awful screens in the spring of 1945 off to ad rates. The u. S. Army occupied the bavarian town of land suit, 4 year old mako, her mother, and the female cousin, so shell, to bring the cellar to fowling home to saw the women live together more or less without man. Im just done keeping. And then in april 19, 45 and 50 shots people. But when the bombardments of loans who became too severe house, they fled to a house and fog off right. Connected to the church, the c i me to kind of on where when the americans arrived, they forced their way into the house on this one the other day. There were several of them and they were heavily armed as how special they searching the house from top to bottom. And then in a cupboard in one of the bedrooms, they saw them locks uniform hanging on a hanger. Im really and then they asked, where is this man home . Donkey fox, where is this man . Where is the soldier long voice . So thought went on st. Pete max and then they were more and more aggressive and true the women into the bedroom dish off to make you 3 the once done comments in so then so this in the bedroom the us um yeah, i know that one of the soldiers through my grandmother steps onto the bed of spit, and tried to take her clothes off. Yes, its the mungo state sign and for decades in the family, no one ever spoke about the events that occurred at the end of april 1945. It was only her daughter and maximilian, who upon learning of her grandmothers right, decided to find out more about the time us troops entered this area. She began looking for witnesses to this history, especially in the villages and was met with the will of silence. As of this yesterday faith, this sort of ours, i feel that i worked wasnt a small rural area on the border between Upper Bavaria and lower bavaria. And the district is alternating. Wish to be very Catholic Community with a lot of social control. The backs in new incidents had occurred yet it took almost a year to find women and also men face. People were willing to tell me what happened there. Mean that a team have done it said it almost the story. I my home. Yeah. So, oh man, we were to so afraid of the soldiers through the russians coming here. So wed heard terrible things about them, but hopefully americans would arrive before the russians use this shorter. Yes, it was a 1st and we were at the native oceans to the virgin mary. You could hear the sounds of the tags and vehicles in the church. Certainly the priest said so that the enemy has forced its way into work. Village is in doors and get to go home to read. No women and girls were to comport themselves with dignity and sweets of the enemy be cut off of find they came upstairs to our place. 2 Young Americans looked at single measuring sticks and of course they saw my mother and my sister. Talk to him right away at point. The type of items unexcused rate is a weapon of war. And as long as Army Commanders dont take strict actions against that total of the affair, tolerating it, and perhaps even exploiting it for their own military aims exceed by 6 because the actual violent sizes in a certain sense, best so intimate that it can rupture, Family Structures the to them that connection nines, the social cohesion of a society in the long term im supposed to get charged around. Come, nanny, be honest, has written down the traumatic experiences. She associates with february of 1945. But then she, with the red armies rested advance into breast. Now the historical capital of science easier now known as the polish city of lots less feet. It was a shed implementing is a big cities were destroyed, but not for as low as any where we had air written warnings. You got the magazine and we always said, thats why were in for it. Now. The one thats funny and it was a disaster. The russians tend to ring around personnel encircling the c breast slow was around and it was a fortress. Im sure thats the ones that fist on the city was supposed to serve as simple walks and stops the russians from its on the same. So the order to event to h came fonts who liked the new need. The alice was just 14 years old at the time the divine in california were uncle reinhold center, and he was my fathers youngest brother. The say it was nothing regarding my mind. I can still see a sitting there in a circle like this. I sat here and my mother was next to me, a witness done on the moms other side set. My brother vince feed, my youngest brother and you into the sea stillman, i stormed in and we just sat like the dog is this size the i dont know if he screened or cried. We trembled sitting there. How does this come . I know one soldier came in the sea, looked around the mit saw me set and yanked me towards him. The look and mother cried out the spice didnt know exactly and how he threw me on the floor in the drawer and stop it happened that its done. I see it like the show in the spring. Imagine what the planning land one another on on saw issue of the land and 10 mazda were among around 1400000 women who were raped while fleeing east prussia or site. Easier often, more than once nazi propaganda about the red menace meant fever. The soviet soldiers was especially great not to me and felt like one more afraid of the slavic peoples, even in the because in the rid of this higher key of the time they were portrayed as monstrous months primitive. I couldnt have beast driven by physical urges, as best jim katasha as well and voss of accordingly they triggered more fears of colors. Angel fits on his own to roush, calculated their opponents, eventual or full revenge into that comes in his diary minister of propaganda. Yoseph gathers quoted, hit notice saying, not long of to not see germanys invasion of the soviet union in 1941. We have so much to answer for that. We must win because otherwise our entire nation with us, the tips head will be eradicated along with old. We hold the so lets get to work the direction for breaking in the nazi leadership. The heads of the van most and even individual soldiers was certainly conscious of the german crime, is committed in the eastern territories and they ordered them new about them, sold them more, even committed them. But you will too well. But if the red army came to germany, then god have mercy on us all at once. Cool. Still active, 1945, the russian army stood 80 kilometer as outside, but then and was preparing its attack on the german capital. Close to 3000000 people was still living that among the women, panic was growing. Many, so killing themselves as the only way to evade the enemy. In april, the number of suicides in berlin reached record levels that close to 4000 the on the 8th of may 1965. It lives no c gemini, surrendered. The last great best to lift the 2nd world war on european soil was now as the villages leading was one huge war trophy. The soldiers were given free reign to enjoy the victory, and even in the house can get the victims of this flesh of victory with the women. It said that a few Red Army Soldiers carried a leaflet with them, which said, crush the germanic womens racial pride. Take them as your rightful spoils, the civic nbc as well. Revenge was certainly an important motivated on perhaps what most important whitening but other factors also came into play, especially the internal military culture. And i read amin, a band on vacations, its like casualties. One cool collision system, bad leadership by offices and sanctions who kept passing the pressure down from the upper ranks with them. And then to relieve this pressure, theyve let their own troops run, wilds kind of off list the bus to the what i mean, what is this true for the red army us for the us army, was that troops had certain images of the more of the probity of German Society for andrew and women of deduction funds seemed to justify not applying any moral standards and their dealings with them on the document. In the, the, as on the says of the us army from the west seem to worried the german population less. In march of 1945, the americans cross the rhine and by 8 pull, theyd already reached the range you inclined. But to know if the village priest wrote him release, the americans coming, theres excitement, but no frights and excitement between frightened joy. But leaning more towards joyce, the a quarter of again later the troops would withdrawal. The 9 months later conrad was born right off to his boss, his mother pushed him in foster care. When he was 8, his foster system told him the reason why news help me out to your son. So she told me in 1945, the americans were in eisenberg and your mother got involved with one of those americans. And hes your father to hospice, to ensure thats how you came to be with this part of me at 1st. That was actually more of a relief than a shot xt. I got it. I bought the car and truck as well. I mean, i know i like where i came from its full voice. Bullshit the shuttle holder. Huh. I had red hair and gaps between my teeth, distracted from an early age. I had a kind of inferior already complex. I didnt belong. I didnt know where i was at, and i had no protection, no one to protect me. No one supported them. In my childhood, no one ever took me under their wing need and ill get them. Comrade was a cheeky kid too soon became a thorn in the side of the east gym, and School System is 3rd grade report card states that he constantly interrupted lessons and was proud to be a foreigner. His family was employed to take action before its 2 lights. Above off him for me, my father was my anchor and guy i had a secret that belonged only to me is one that gave me strength. And so i really was like i was on a kind of mission. Is the dust. Destiny is this, you, im in america, youre one day ill leave here enjoying my father and america. Im just the resume, big of getting a hotmail. I got them. Im far from the us soldiers. Wenches, widely fee it. And they were expected to abide by the military leadership strict code of conduct. Germany was conquered enemy territory. And they were supposed to keep that distance from the gym and people training films were shown to prepare american soldiers the do a lot associated with german men. Women, or children. Every german is a potential source of trouble. Therefore, there must be no freedom ization with any of the german people. Randomization means making friends with german people on line or friends, can advise you in general, armies forbid, rationalization. I out of concern by informal contact as august suitors have with the domestic population men to contact the lead weakening. Is that the army prefer oklahoma. Com . Thats the association with the on me. As soon vincy done as much as you can, so if they start to have personal contacts and for example, you have a beer to par, to give them the evenings for them. They could lose sight of the Occupying Powers goals often play but the us, so just advance didnt, to waste goes smoothly. The liberation of bavaria took several weeks, well in some places, jim and surrendered without to fight just a few kilometers away. Hitting this last contingents would continue to protect us from assistance that includes the i got some of the young people of would take up arms and try to fight the you with soldiers less so dot. And so that came from a see to also it appears that the place is most resistant to being taken over with the ones most affected by sexualized war violence have dish me just on july. So toward a gain to run on that that gets the most for take most book near fries, english clicks. There was a big prisoner of war camp there and was with the us troops moving in could see how their comrades had been treated in germany. This in particular seems to have triggered a lot of anger in the us soldiers. But then that led to an especially large number of sexual assaults which were carried out systematically hottest. Apparently they made marks on houses, it presumably inhabited by women, essentially declaring them to be afraid to clear this report about the troops arrival, received by the priest of the town. As most book states on monday, the 1st news about rapes reach the rectory. Its not possible for this context that to provide any numbers here. Several goals jumped out the 1st floor window onto the street and laid that in just the, at the time rec, trees were among the few. Gem and institutions still functioning, said the bavarian priests, reports on the allies arrive, will remain an important source of the historians generalists like maximilian, the hagar, to the home here in buddhist us. Here we have the report from the Saint Nicholas parish in bod. Right. And how, oh sorry, i was on the one hand, it makes the blanket statements that a large number of women and girls with violates the 2 monks. But in parentheses, the tier is being added, but this to give them 200. Thats what a 100 times for this formulation. So priest makes it clear that he has no personal knowledge of the mass, right . But its just for laying what the towns focusing on home to be the room. And then comes the frequently confirmed information thats all off to the americans marched in there was relative peace could we stop with. But then the french troops were advancing ice cream and cut off. And the word was they were committing terrible crimes and sickly. Namely in moral terms, they committed terrible crimes against women and goals. You see if a Rhodes College americans use guns violates to force that way. Unit 9. And this is, it was fairly typical to mention the skin color of the soldiers or fine who is doing the plundering, sort of looking for a thank you. Call me in good. The french regiments, which included soldiers of north african descent, made a particularly strong impression 50 cool trooper from the gulf troops for barbara street. They sold and rob did chased after the women. And the young girls locked themselves in the attic, and the silver soldiers couldnt come in. The 1st differential me also kept tax of sexual violent secrets. But when challenges were pressed, the military court stole down particularly harsh sentences. Defrances colonial troops. Thats this most of the racism of societies back then, not just the german, but also the british, french and american ones. If she is reflected in the numbers of convicted and sentenced and perpetrators and is a foot and on foot what it was clearly so that for instance, in the us army, the black culprits were charged more often with id also received much pressure sentences including the Death Penalty as possible. But since the to discover differential occupied the territory near the french gym and pulled up here in southwest in germany. It was mainly the french, occupies most of us retaliation thats burned into peoples collective memory fronts. What will happen often operate on the train and the 2nd was reputation with the german people on that apply only to prove that folks also see it. That could be reprisal included as revenge for the full year long term and occupation upfront. And due to the facts, there were many sexual assaults when the french marched into south west in germany. If you look 50 in the french occupations, and children follow that by french, so just have to be registered by orders of the military governor. So its on record that most of the rates will not, in fact commit to, to, by colonial troops. The goals, the item one in february 1946 was one of these frenchmans kids. She grew up with her grandmother in a village near concert. She knows nothing about the events surrounding her conception. Only that her father was a french soldier. At the age of 10 ana, who was, i was suddenly sent to from because she was deemed to be a child of the french state. Of the moment royce vic most from the moment i had to leave. I wasnt shocked as a deer, was this tama the own slow by was sent unprepared from foreign country and was a Foreign Language by or live with nuns. Thats why i was that was a dramatic change for me. Is more stuff once i had to learn french. But i was there for 3 years. One became a french one. Is punters. I was a forced frank, a file hockey, the unique cock. While i was never asked what i wanted, excuse me, and nothing was ever explained to me. To do some type, pulled me up to the point in time when i learned that there was an archive coma in clermont, in front of the french archive, i knew nothing at all on each rod on. Then i was outraged that i was an honest, familiar timeframe. Each box for the console isnt. So the, as i said, i know it certainly existed and the french archives exist to like the guns and all of the children fathered by french soldiers. So dot and good, so were archived on the orders of general kennedys unit. I cruise from this document on a wholesale also lent her fathers name full bath. Yet shes never been able to find him. Many thousands of women soaked as being right to the friendship to patients by the summer of 1945, the consequences of that Sexual Violence had become old to clear. Many women wanted to have an abortion, but to be granted when they needed to have previously reported the rate is this gynecologist noted in the vast majority of cases, no report was made to deal slower cheese out of shame and to see a disgrace. Consequently, in almost every case, an incredibly time consuming investigation was necessary to differentiate in the wheelwright cases from the site to ones. The viper, male sexuality was basically viewed as unreliable or less as the cost of divisions that when in doubt the ruling always went against the woman. It was always thought that the woman seduced the man, that she didnt have her own sexual desires under controlled as he bought. The more that she was meant to realistic and wanted something from the soldiers. And that she then gave herself or sold herself to get it cost on the hoses. Mount the monica also contravene the moral codes at the time in spring 1945 near the gym and the city of casual that she met the french soldier who would become, i know, who was his father mine and what the law i mother was a very reserved woman involved is what kind of did issue wasnt someone whod have taken the initiative of mind and with that, so i think my mother had the opportunity to earn money from the french can to put in. But and console isnt often, monica unexpectedly became pregnant by the french soldier. She was known in her home village as the frenchmans darling. Eventually she was forced to leave the treat after the war. Women normally werent permitted to have a relationship with a frenchman. No, im in northern america in nor an englishman, nor a russian deed for him and friends, the shape, the women table and cheese and through the villages on their stuff. And it was no different than germany. Induction was only gone this the fall and the women werent allowed to have lesions with the enemy of a just that, that didnt stop relationships from happening off to the 0. Alice struck mocking gemini surrender. People wanted to forget about the past. German women rates by soldiers were often held partly to blame, so most didnt press charges to great was the shame and the feelings of guilt towards the husbands and signed the lease as well. The mice and most of the women liked we never spoke about it, not even with their husbands when they eventually returned. Plus there was no intact infrastructure that could have dealt with it. So there was no Legal Framework whatsoever from the German Police or the german court. To take action against it. In this respect, there was no systematic registration system, much fossil. Its estimated that between the early summer and full of 1945, at least 110000 women and girls were raped in berlin and loved many of them multiple times. These figures around me estimates this is done using old patient records and registration phones, like those found to be all kinds of fun in school, but University Files from the empress of goose to victoria house. Childrens hospital, for instance, showed up 5 percent of the children born between the end of 1945 on the summer of 1946 had russian fathers. And many of these cases, the only entry on the line for the father is russian. And in parentheses, the german word for right in the entire sylvia talked to patients and historians estimate that more than 500000. 00 women would rates during the fast paced while he is american soldiers adult, to have committed over a 190000 sexual assaults. The figures are still on notice of the British Allied troops. The allies divided gemini, and by then into full occupations. At a time, the occupiers became the liberators. From then on love affairs with allied soldiers. When the longer rad soon no one was talking about the crimes committed in the weeks of to the was and is the victims with us when long its show for a long time. But even to these a day, people dont like to talk about crimes committed by the allies for the day, for 2 reasons. First, theyre out presence a allies all and 2nd, because especially on the german side with all the crimes carried out in germanys name during world war 2. Its hard to point a finger at the allies because very quickly, well, you can reach on relative izing and off assessing to them and kill clicking breakfast with of the use of rationing and shortages germans longed for stability. 1948 proved to be a decisive here. The americans have been preparing the currency reform in the west and zones. This effectively split gemini into 2 economic divisions and kicks down to the economic miracle in the west and the Political Division followed just again later. The republic of germany held its 1st parliamentary elections in 1949 on the election post as the christian democrat, some c, d. U. Used to stereotypical images of the enemy to stare up fees of the red menace. C d u candidate to conrad ida. Now i became the 1st chance and the new republic realize who wagner got to the occupation status and data at odda, now its height is country site to the west. Now at the latest, it was also in west. Germanys political interests that the guilt for crimes committed by the allies was placed solely upon the soviets harfers, especially during the war. So in this kind of shakes and in the store in west germany, western europe and the last 6 and the Sexual Violence committed by Red Army Soldiers. Peers was often scandalized. Id as allegedly be, especially in civilized or brutal port type. As with the student, the voices as or memories. Yeah. Those really impacted as well as their perpetrators. I went on heard, come down from me for the only in 1992 to the documentary. Once again, take up the controversial topic of rates committed by allied troops implies told gemini, concordia was one of the contemporary witnesses. He recounted the story of his desperate search for his father, the in the science on to the side, to also known as liberators. Take liberties direct to have cars on the talks to victims, perpetrators and children born of rank. What the phil makes clear for decades German Society knowledge. He blamed these women and children for the faith deputy, forgotten to overall by their deceased, excited by ensure the film was viewed as a milestone one when it came to confronting this history. And without a doubt, that was also because up to that point in time, there to hardly been any kind of reflection about it. And what to about ended my mothers case. My step father did everything. He could this oppressive a plank got damaged. I can do some shopping examples. Why was this such a to boot topic for so long as i live on the firstly women want a custom to talking about their own interest inside. And i think thats the decisive factor to mock by the disposal, and no one made it easy for them because if they tried to talk about it to other speed, wind up being punished all over again. Is really like a visa. See many women instead of a conflict with their own relatives afterwards with a much tougher to tape than the rape itself. So hes not the conrad yonce. Very existence was proof of the so called shame. The 22 year old cl naji student was made to carry the blame for something over which he had no control. In 1968, the rebellious young man once again drove to compass to see his mazda and finally line his fathers name. God inch for the sixtys, i mean the kind of plan to bring this american into play bought or so she asked me to come into the kitchen and sat down to the shit i was just about to start when the door was thrown open and her husband was standing in the kitchen doorway when your mutton stunted decoration to you and he started yelling with not getting out of here. Good. Get out here. How data do you have no business here. No reason to be here. Justin and leave our mother and cheese one last was on. What do you to we have absolutely nothing to do with him. Leave the room, scramble for leave our home and never come back for that. So im going to give you the, the for years now to come. How do you received a left . So with a clear message the it was written not by his mother, but by her husband. The so destroyed by look for the blame and yourself not in others. We, there are no responsibility whatsoever for you, and thats the letter. This is deputy, the, the lifelong search for an unknown father for ones own identity for love and acceptance. These things of also left on know who is the with deep psychological scars not the mothers proceeded. You always have the sense that house of kids missing as well. Im tired and you always have the feeling that you dont belong anywhere. Mccook new things that you dont belong to friends and you dont belong to germany. The phone cars wants to kill them just enough to trip. In 1948. I know who was his mother. I got married to a frenchman. He to the ever so i know it was a, as the child born into shape as i was playing with strict, always very strict, but we didnt have any real relationship with him once before a storm, shortly before he died, he told me that he never had the end me are obviously the own. I said why . I was always a good kid. So it was like an electrical shock with through me from top to bottom. It was that simple. 3200. 00 children, but one of rate poorer officially registered in west germany and west berlin. Still the number of unrecorded cases was suddenly much higher in west germany. The politicians on Society Denied responsibility for these women and children. The women was recognized as victims of war and thus had no rights to compensation. Thus, what does a slot from death was off the table right from the start because the state couldnt have afforded it and didnt want to be there. And boy, and it would have put women equal where essentially civilian war victims on an equal footing with war disabled soldiers. 6 busy at the farm. In east germany, rates conducted by Red Army Soldiers were also to be told make time and time again comes at the present to the communist doseover at chase. In 1986 east german officials decided to deport him to the west. The day before the protestant minister was forced to leave the country. He drove to compass one last time its wide on either mine and what offs i wanted to visit my mother one last time. I am signal for the sole purpose of having her telling me the name of the american homicide on the scene. And she started to sob and cry something awful. And i tried to kind of trust. I have no idea of what you want as to why youre telling me this. There is no american, not on the on its the, wasnt as developed our truck, xbox. I was at the black market trying to try to pair of shoes or food to come. Then a truck drove and filled with the russians or despondent. They jumped down and conducted a rate on the large good engines and made me a host of and they drove me out to a field. I fell on me down on the ground on one of them and held the machine gun into my temple while the other tore off my clothes downright. To me. Oh, theres something from life. Give us an obviously think about it is or done. The other ones turn done to the fun. Give us the yes. In order to within 20 minutes, i became russian for 2 of us. The time its all coming from what are my years long dream that i was american when buster so i mean i call them i can try it out. Yeah. Right. The course of events in the month of february, the june 1945, the way i beat them at the time these assignments and from the perspective of an almost 15 year old and a fast since sitting here thinking maybe all of us lived in the age of 94 at the end of her life, she made her peace with the Sexual Violence. She didnt do it at 40. She says she became a happy person. Thanks to then nothing past the about. Yeah, yes. And he was very loving, very loving. With any new i was afraid of mr. Wright to cut it. Yeah. Yes. I also was afraid of the right guy or that mission, but he never pressured me. I said and even when we were engaged. So i said thats a really long time. Yes. The, the reset davis, my name, i have my husband martin and my mother to thank for this. Thats the issue that i owe to my own surprise. If i just can speak about it. I wait for you a gun, the the conflicts with sarah kelly 5 months into the war and gaza and sadly chaos around and aid con boy has glaringly highlighted the desperation and climbed the desk for a month civilians. My guess is sweet on complex phone is not responding. Form exists and foreigners are and long time diplomat, at what point is you just have no choice but to consider opening a folder to thousands onto monetary in ground conflict. In 30 minutes, d w. 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