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The funds will be traveling to slovenia this year as guest of honor of the frankfurt books. There will also be meeting the 6 authors whose books were short listed for the german book, tries 2023. But 1st we come to someone who has long been truly committed to freedom of speech. Salman rushdie, the struggle goes on. Salman rushdie keeps on writing in spite of Death Threats and a knife attack. Hes a true believer in and a vendor of freedom of thought. At this years banquet books, there he was awarded the peace prize of the german book train. Watched us this price mean for you and, you know its, its, its, its a very important prize and award like this, which celebrates the value of fees. Is, particularly in a moment when there are 2 was going on. No, nobodys company, nobodys talking about ukraine. But thats still going on at the time of the conflict such so deep as it is right now. Its all the more important to restate the importance of the value of peace. First, lets talk about your current books, victory city, which was published this year. Victor cities tell us of the king and of his mega in Southern India that actually existed when men and women are equal and all face. Welcome. Some of the time that is not good, also parishes at the end because it abandons all its ideals. Is this a commentary on develop situation . Well, one of the things that interested me doing the research for the book was that its really true that in this very long ago period, this is the 14th and 15th century. Were talking about that to the place of living in society was very advanced in many ways. And women in every walk of life is when in the army, in the legal profession, or as much in traitors, so cetera. And i thought how interesting that 700 years ago that was true. But of course think about history is that nothing is true all the time. There are a moments when its liberal and told her and open other moments when it becomes a liberal and intolerant. Rusty grew up in india and the u. K. He has 1st hand experience of what its like to be the target of terrorism and intolerance. He was already a well known writer when his 4th novel, the satanic verses was published in 1988 for large parts of the muslim world. It was seen as a provocation. The Supreme Leader of iran had told the committee issued a buffalo against him in 1989 calling on muslims to kill him. The writer had to go into hiding for a long time, but he kept writing against religious extremism and censorship. His strong values have cost him a lot more than 30 years after the fight while was issued. He was attacked in 2022 and barely survived the bill that was shot when you were attacked and seriously injured more than a year ago. How are you today . I mean, as you see, im pretty much recovered. Um, i mean, im a little beaten up, but im right. I feel like a working rush it. And that im by no means the only riser in the world who has being threatened or attacked. And unfortunately, this is a phenomenon that is going on through history and it doesnt show any signs of stopping. So we have to fight against it. Thats the only thing to do, keep to keep going there. So the actual well between how much and is will what can literature a chief in such difficult situations and such difficult concepts . I mean very little. I just think there are things that woods cant do with what they caught doing. Stuff was what writers can do, which they are doing is to try not to correlate the incredible pain that many people are feeling right now. Thats probably the best we can do is to articulate the nature of the problem. Is next to nice meditations after an attempted murder is set to be published. Next year, Salman Rushdie continues to write and defend freedom of thought. 6 german language novels made it onto this year as durham and book price short list. Their topics include family, violence, and identity. We start with some to the financial details here. These are ones. How do you say dad, without there being a question mark . Its shot to you is the tells the story of a family torn down the middle after the father left and disappeared to turkey flying in a hospital bed. The grown up protagonist address is a letter to his father about drinking poverty, arguments and humiliation at the emigration office. About his lonely mother and angry sister, and of the struggle of women left behind. The sun talks to a father who never answers the holiday. The rules of the fathers here is to be projection surfaces until theyre gone absent, but they leave behind pain that the characters have to somehow deal with when a new person becomes strength. Dizzy of these book is about a generation of the children of immigrants who dont have the same opportunities, but try hard with what they have. A vision to whats important to me is to do the characters, justice and the 3 items so that theyre never just evict dentals. And even if the circumstances are harsh in on just the and also they are there for each other. When the world isnt a good you guys is a, grew up in western germany. He now lives in berlin and writes for the stage and loves music, which is evident in his writing voice. Fights at mon, for birth mart, shows us sometimes harsh reality. Its a family story and social call commentary in want full of emotions and radical truths. Very well. The world harp down about how we had no prospects, we knew the opposite was true. We had too much perspective. Wed seen things the other kids would never see what they were spooning, their parents pumpkin soup for it was easy. Its about finally seizing the narrative, telling his own story and being hurt. The wind is moving to stay with a man who humiliates and beats here. The protagonist of to raise the a more as novel grew up in provincial east germany. Shes 18 when the wall comes down. Attractive confidence in talented. She studies literature in berlin, london, and basil. And meets magnets her 1st great loan again in their twentys. The to started relationship, administer days, writing her was an easy access. The often this why cloud se salon, if i knew i could only write this character in the 1st person, so that i as a narrator would not judge her title one. But even then, it was difficult to forgive her for everything that i had described to her and get that to the top of luna is fascinating and disturbing at a university in vienna. The character researches female authors whose families immigrated and begins a doctorate on the construction of femininity. But you get everything up for magnus, including her friendships and career when he hits or she understands, and even identifies with her abuser. Lets keep it so this is on site admit that i screamed like on a spit to the new month. If someone had done that to me, i probably would have also pushed the mountain, slammed the door in their face when the 2 flame took not to raise you more suddenly explores the depths of an abusive relationship and appropriate tagging. Just as readers were confronted with our own and the authors prejudices, then obviously looking at this issue, thats when i realized that i had to have judge the victims. I thought as its their own fault or i would never be like that. But the truth is that i would be sitting in their place. Id be like them. I got to be a very so difficult truth in luna or half a life to raise the a more it helps us see how little we know ourselves of the the 1st time they see the woman in the glittering gold dress is on a train. The more than the dress, its the cover of her book that catches bends of i drift or could this be a new book by the indic matic director only think establishes novel is also called drifter. Its the story eventful and killer to friends whose reality begins to increasingly shift killer is struck by lightning after which everything starts to change. Killer leaves his wellpaid job and sleek apartments and moves back to the tower blocks on the edge of town where he and his friends venza grew up. The is the mysterious woman involved. Penzel caesar more and more often and learns that vicar might have been as an influencer with magic powers. She wreaks havoc on the lives of benzo killer and everyone else. She encounters its flowers and to see i think im intrigued by dysfunctional characters, who may be on some tours even obscure once. Um, its almost a mixture of a diabolical figure and a superhero, and perhaps also an anarchic character. But historically, such characters are rarely females kind of to set and by place reality and believes does all laughter visa shows up. The apartment block the 2 friends grew up and become so real pencil as baffled versus reality. What is reality . What is illusion . And how well can we tell them apart . How well can we separate fiction and reality and without giving too much away well say that venza learned something about drifters new book and finds that whats most real for him . Is his friendship with killer or the do any of us really know our familys history . Do we know what happened when we were kids . In her novel, my mom, sylvie, shank, defense deeper and deeper into the story of her own family. The writer only recently discovered her mothers secret, long after her death. She had been adopted and knew nothing about her roots. But she carried that in clarity with her in silence for all of her life. What does a daughter do . What her mother doesnt speak . Again, soon as you get used to it, um and you speak yourself to a month, so you tried to listen to the silence crushing jesus try can nonsense at the very end when you write a book. Wonderful. Yeah. Born in france, sylvie shanks moved to germany, and when she was 22, in our search for answers, she kept imagining herself into the past. For instance, to her grandmother who was a prostitute. She trying to get as close as possible. Especially when i only began to understand it when i crept into my grandmothers bed and my mind and told her because im with you. Like a sucked up a screen, but i knew i couldnt just write. The story had to experience it and no food hub was the live. And so the strength takes us by the hand through time, all the while challenging her own perception and asking whether there even is one truth. She shifts length on the lives of her mother and grandmother. And at the same time, on the social circumstances upfront for her, the book is about laying her past to rest of farewell relieved of resentment. A dino was born into change 3 years before the fall of the wall in a town in east germany. Shes a child of the reunification. The generation born into the agony of the g. D r into a disillusioned world where the promise of socialism had already dissolved smokeless drawn in on a job as novel, english guide on click or the possibility of happiness. The g d r is gone, button lives on in peoples minds. The still young stina thinks this new germany tastes different, but otherwise not much has changed. She senses that her parents are unhappy in the newly united country. But silence generally reigned in her home life. For stina childhood was a dark time and there was little love. Her mother was cold and cruel, and that were beatings again and again from an early age. Steam and leaves for berlin as soon as she can. But the question stay with her. Why is there so much violence in the why so much patriot for foreigners attacks and harsh top listing. Hong kong is vanna and so many other places, student researches, she routes through archives and speaks with old friends just like author on top of that as well. So what surprised me in my research was that the topic of violence always came up, comes up to this. There was obviously the Political Violence by neo nazis. But also within families in open and ended all kinds of families confirmed in what role that the ged, yours founding generation play like steam as beloved grandfather powered for example, who was very strict with his daughters. Was it the 2nd world war that it hardened him for . Family members spoke about their trauma. Not with each other. Norwoods statement. This novel is a reckoning with miss and stories of the past and a call for truthful intergenerational extreme. And last but not least, this years winter coming of age novel by austrian writer, tonio, shocking tonia, checking out the and elite vienna boarding school. The most famous in the country, housed in a former hapsburg residence. Here in the mariana, the children of the elite are prepared for high level careers and political office. I guess what do you say . Its a world where appearances matter and you want to present yourself not only as rich, but as educated costs. So you want to have a pinch of education, sprinkled on tom. However, its not really about education, but about consolidating social status. Its sophistic. This is where to find himself after his parents divorce. Stranded between snobbish classmates and a despotic teacher. His name and tell us and someone who charges in and challenges authority from the start and then i can get you for. So if he tries to model through morgan, but as the novel continues, that becomes more and more difficult. You make accept the as time goes on till finds himself in the cross hairs of the administration, his teacher, and the antiquated educational system that his father dies till checks out diving into the world of age of empires to a complex Real Time Strategy get his grades in school plummet, even as he becomes an internationally successful gamer. But that means a little to the adults around here is like the tagging bus to see a thing. I want it to show what it means to be a game or needs to be and how hard it is to bridge the gap between till very detailed knowledge of his world and, and what his mother regards as knowledge. Look good to begin. Again stall on till science has passed at once, sarcastic and sensitive. The novel is an account of rigidity and rebellion, a 1st love in finding your own way, a compelling coming of age story. I think that theres a kind of freedom in seeing your fears become reality because when fears come true, they stop being fears. Hassan the next we travel to slovenia. The country is this years guest of honor at the Frankfurt Book Fair and home to a strong literature seat. The majestic and rugged mountains when some towns and villages and the capital lewdly on a warehouse for monarchy architecture meets mediterranean congeniality. For centuries today, slovenia stood under 4 and rule after the 2nd world war, as part of the multi ethnic yugoslavia, slovenia declared its independence and 1991 a factor in the years of war. That led to the breakup of the former yugoslavia. Today, slovenia has a population of just over 2000000 and literature is a key component of its national identity. These days, a broad range of slovenia and literature is available in translations and lilliana. We met with author whose new novel was recently released in germany, in 100 years of blindness, coal mine, animal z, not cast a story line through 100 years of slipping in history. Its a family novel with a blind man as the main character. Makia is born on may 24th 1900 in a mountain village. The same day the ground opens and swallows his families home. The earthquake was caused by a nearby coal mine where deep, underground tunnels are blasted out that wreck the countryside. The mine is both occurs and a blessing more than a stick with the to sit, they move, they had to follow the dictates of the cold. Im a little child correctional facility to coal decided what kind of community there would be and what industries with develop the industry of some of the, via the, to without them. And of course the people where the victim is to take off to this. And i used to put them all go on the other hand, walk through the big was also a blessing, say, old montana. Towns got bigger and grew together. Is all the problem you put of it was going to do is our new people move to them. So it was kind of goes a little bit and they could develop sort of pick it up. The quote of the whole thing might be after the disaster mathias father has to abandon the farm and like many before him go to work in the mind. Its hard work while the women keep house and family together. So my team who was born blind, the trials and tribulations of the 20th century, like the 1st and 2nd world wars, are more than just background noise. Mateo witnesses, how politics can drive which is between people, how old rulers are disposed of and replaced with new no less merciless ones. The 100 years of blindness tells of loves passion wars and the ideologies with echoes reaching into the present day. The story has also captivated in drago young char, one of slovenia. As most a world renowned authors. His books have been translated into many languages. In his hometown of marie bore, theres even a Museum Dedicated to him all be at a tiny one house in a former newsstand. Like many of his books, his most recent novel at the creation of the world is set in morrow bore. Its 1959. The 2nd world war is receding into history and a new age is daunting. But the war lives on and peoples heads and divide society and a former anti nazi fighters and former pro nazi collaborators. The main character of this novel is young, done yet. His father was once a partisan, now hes a broken man. His mother is devout and sends her son to Church Service and religious instruction. Tanya feels torn. Experience is death and loss his world to shake him. Young child experienced his own childhood in the 19 fifties and sixties and much the same way. My hero probably have, she says the good thing easily is every person is every wrapped around somebody who is quoting in the next chapter. Make some think about this, even though so good in a very good and evil i was targeting with the last and with the within the, the few, sorry. No to have so your, from in history as there are no, you know, so the solution in the single human being at the creation of the world as a parable of slovenia and society under yugoslavia and communism. Its also an amalgamation of stories, young child heard as a child today as an author and as a, as hes a partisan for democracy and for europe nowadays, your for, for muslim from temper your, uh what, what Group Connect it without over economy, follow the politics and pretty my pics of solutions and i believe this is a, this could be literature because if somebody from the other 5 in europe can read through a, through my, theres her experience of a nation or surrounding that i would. But i think so this is a kind of a automatically for, for understanding. And then suddenly we are closer because of this, our board today, this new bookseller carries a very distinctive choice selection. One of the proprietors is on your goal of the shop is an attempt at making a stand against the big monopolist, tonya, go up as a publisher and editor as well as one of slovenia as most celebrated poet, the, you know how degrading it is when im invited for example, to berlin, and then people see and then people come to me and, and basically say to me, yeah, but your german is good, you know, we understand you just like, go so seriously. You know, i am here, i am here because i saw that you want to speak to me about money that youre not because you want me to not because you want me to present something to, to check out because i am because i am the from, from sylvania or because i am, im married to a woman on your call up as a public figure known in slovenia for her work as a columnist and her political engagements. Yet her poems are not political more than anything. They are simply poetry. For me, this is the sense of 43. Yes, of course it is political, but i dont think that in my point to i dont believe that this is something that why i write it. But this is a part of me and is a part of me. Its a natural thing that it will come there and it will be there is the most natural thing that comes like this. Goal ups latest poetry volume tells at the end of a great love. Its intense fraud with pain and in places almost harsh vision and push of the to and for sure. And. And for through verse pros, history and demotion, slovenia as literature is strong and diverse, and more accessible than ever to international readers. That brings us to the end of this literature, special thanks for watching. We hope you enjoy your next book. The he left his home country of some africa to do what he does best. The i went there with law job probably like 500. 00 in my pocket. Cost is way around the world. And i was taking the techniques and the philosophy and i was forwarded back to south africa. One day my boss filled the mutation of african both to create a free mac, a team 30 minutes on the w to the point strong and clear position. International perspective. For us is under the lot of pressure with fighting going on. I mean by driving china is busy expanding gets into and so to the point were all on this frame. How many your contracts come to us copeland to the point in 90 minutes on d. W. The shannon, the last thing in the searing, emphasizing the Award Winning offer is available to every language that in german has never been some new to the in many countries. Education is still a privilege. Property is one of the main causes, some Young Children walk in minecraft. Instead of going to class others can attend classes, the minions of children of the world. And we ask why . Because education makes the world make up your own mind on the late phone lines the. This is dw news line from berlin, rossa crossing between egypt and gaza has reopened. Vital aid has started to enter the palestinian territory around 170 trunks with a Central Medicine food and water for people and cause i have been stuck there for days. Also coming up, International Leaders are in egypt for a summit on the conflict between israel and palestine in milton, who has it states, prime ministers as well as for ministers, are hoping to find a way to prevent a wider regional war. Un secretary general, antonio tennis is also attending, plus him off release as to american hostages, held in gaza. Mother and her daughter were a month to more than 200 people kidnapped during her mazda is that deadly attacks on israel 2 weeks ago, the a Marietta Evans dean, welcome. The roof of Border Crossing between egypt and gaza has reopened for humanitarian aid. And vehicles are entering the palestinian territory with vital supplies. These pictures are from the egypt side of the rock of crossing, which is the only entry point into the territory from outside these realm. The crossing has reopened in the past hours and are humanitarian aid conroy has entered into gaza carrying food, water and medicine. Foreigners have been waiting to leave. The enclave have also gathered at the border. Its not known how long the crossing will remain. Open carino, the laurie is a journalist based in cairo and earlier he told us more one wife was detained and that is that theyre only allowed 20 trucks to come in. This is the agreement and to now it seems like the trucks already into the on the other side, a no unload. It was forklift this on to smaller trucks. It was in the gaza strip into then be distributed. But the, we talking about 20 trucks for 2300000 people. It really, if it is just already said that this is a drop in the ocean, you need to know that you and its saying that it needs about a 100 trucks, a d, in order to keep bring the most necessary items into the gaza strip. And before the war and there was already is there any locates limited locate where they there were 450 trucks coming every day, 2 cars. And so just you understand the relationship of 20 trucks. This is why notice the moment the 1st 20 trucks enter the discussion started that of course, that needs to be a more sustainable and the amount and big amount of 8 thats coming in. As he sent mentioned, theres hundreds of trucks waiting while the other side, the jeeps, the site in order to enter. But they didnt know is no agreement between egypt is really about the for the each company is International Leaders are in egypt for us on that on the conflict between israel and palestine in militant groups. More than 20 prime ministers for ministers. The regional leaders are attending the meeting and cairo is aimed at the escalating the conflict and providing humanitarian aid for civilians in the gaza strip. The conference is being hosted by egyptian president of delphi to ill cc addressing the summit president l. C. C, said, egypt condemns the killing of innocent civilians. Sure. If you have anybody, and at the same time, it expresses the amazement at the same moment, silence father to announce that the world is actually in probably embodying right now in the midst of what is the 1500000. And thats what we are being asked and are being collectively punished. Why are being forced to about how to help them. These are the things that are the nurse and the word by the International Community that you took me to give you a reminder if you could. And for more im joined now by the ws middle east analyst, and he was on is who was in the studio with me, get to see you, show me. So ill see. See, is clearly positioning himself as a mediator with this summit, but can his country egypt really play that role . Well, he, he has, for historically played a role mediating between palestinians and israelis, which always puts him in a very precarious position with his own people. You know, with this great support and understanding of the importance of the Strategic Alliance between is really the egypt about amongst the population. There is not such a wide support for israel among his people. And this is exactly the pressure that hes under in the last 2 weeks. He wants to push away the palestinians because hes afraid of what that might mean for his security to security of egyptian. But that at the same times hes pressure to help those indians. And hes drawing now with this summit to set the boundaries and to put the, you know, the world into the picture and say, this is a problem needs to be solved by a wider alliance and cannot be just put to, to the feet of, of egypt. And jordan to solve. So this is what were saying im trying to do now in the very fact you brought all of these allies together, but thats to show the support this cause has for in the world is very well the summit open to just a short time ago. Weve already heard some remarks from the leaders who were attending. What else, what has stood out for you so far from what weve been hearing. So of course, is it humanitarian issue. Theres a lot of rage within our countries. They feel like theres great, you know, to place the teeth in the west of the world. They have heard and seen the unequivocal support. Israel has gotten no after they have a respect acts of the attack come off, but they feel like theres a differentiation between jewish blood and arrow blood they for want to say, you know, the horrors of, you know, kids being killed in gauze are just as her sick, and theres the fear also, the bigger fear is that this would be some sort of an excuse of what they would call the 2nd knock by trying and to push against palestinians out of gauze us. And then there is no way back for them. So we also see the past, the new president who the boss talking about the need to find a solution to the palestinian problem that is not about a taking them works pele them away from, from gaza. Um lets, lets hear that. Their house. Yeah, thats the one of the yeah, im of the danger of been busy with the basement of our civilian instead of from their houses or the smiths from the west bank or from jerusalem. We wouldnt have never really accept of this possible displacement campbells town hall on our land despite the what we want from the time we have asked for the stopping of this sort of a model various and ill just send that right away and to open up your my notes here in court orders for you, so i will, i will ask me what your monetary and, and the relief a that to get into the gauze of the trip solution a what is being discussed as a possible solution for the benefit of palestinians. But what weve seen rise from the ashes is a 2 state solution. This is something that is rarely as have been pushing aside for quite some time. That to now himself had very little interest in promoting or extending the process. And under trump, he also had no inclination, you know, american reason to, to push him for, to do that bite. And in his arrival to the region has, has mentioned that several times we see, you know, also the directions and the to damians mission mentioning that i am not sure how feasible that is. But there is a clear understanding by the americans also within, you know, the many countries sitting around the table and kyra today that needs to be. Now when we look at because of the, the end game should always be in mind. What would be the long Term Solution where will godsons palestinians find themselves in 2 months and 2 years . So, you know, after this conflict, the immediate conflict can solve that. This is whats at stake here. And were seeing some of the key players and all of this are absent from the summit. I mean, this includes israel, iran the plays a huge role. Also the United States and not send any senior representatives of his government. So, mean what is likely to come out of this summit in concrete terms . Well, the so dar itself, the, the, the missed the message sent to the arabs and then to the albums, which are the main audience for this is quite clear now in solidarity with pulsing, invest for itself is quite important for the students to need moderate countries in order to calm down a little bit of the rage and the anger and the frustration theyre seeing out there on the streets. But if were talking about practical solutions, of course without israel, without the americans, nothing will work out. Maybe a little bit more pressure, especially when tearing support may be we have the categories at the table trying to bring in some Solutions Connected to the, to this hostages. We know that menu of p and hostages. We know many european leaders are there or, but this meeting as important as may be, will probably not be the one pay you know, paying the pass, pay pass out of this horrific situation where so just looking at some Common Ground then shiny. What can the participating countries at the very basic level agree on they all agree with the suffering and guys is quite dire. I mean, are you a pin countries have have said that as well. They wished to hear more condemnations from the arabs to the atrocities committed by him us 2 weeks ago. They have not heard it so far. If there could be many good excuses considering the popular sentiment it within the world, but it doesnt matter that the policy level, this is now an attempt to try and find a solution to the passing and problem and gaza. That is a long term one. Beyond what you know as well, or just as we dont want to have anything to do with gaza in the future, who will take a hold on this just to so piece of land that is there to be seen in the dw is middle east analyst on the rows on us, great to speak, to great to hear your insights. Youre welcome. Well, israel is planning to evacuate. The Northern City of caveats. Mona near the border with lebanon. Thats following days of classes with has the law fighters. The city is home to 20000 people and is just 2 kilometers from the border. Is really, authorities had been steadily evacuating communities along the northern frontier. Seattle, i need to goldstein have driven up to k yet simona to pick up the father level to take him to south and out of range of rockets 5 across the border by his beloved. So my father is revealing that thats one of which i can take on the big picture to my home and try since ive this is why the leaving sirens wail is a power outage of rocket streets towards israel from 11 on to yet shimoda has already been hit by those munitions. You hear me say its time to go because this kind of about q ration that allows v i d f to expand this operational freedom to act against the hezbollah tire business. Several people. Many residents have in fact already left before the enforced evacuation for the confident no return or actually the situation hes here right now, is there a difficult like my brother say . But you know what were going to in . No one is can be tough. Thats it. No one is can be done. This is not all over the world. They dont understand. Youre going to fight and fight on residents splitting the law. So now joining tens of thousands of israelis who have left their homes in the south near a garza and were not joined by peter learner. Hes a spokesperson for these really defense forces. Mister laura, thank you for speaking to us again. So israel had delayed, allowing aid to be taken to gaza until inspections could verify that this aid would not be going to him. Us is the id as now satisfied that this will not happen. You know, theres a clearance done that there will be abuse of the age that goes in. Weve seen in the past that from us has no problem stealing from the United Nations fuel and spend medical supplies that happened just a few days ago. And one of the compounds where are you in Relief Organization actually announced it themselves. Its close to human to turn age and a means to reach the people in dire need not the terraced organizations that will but for babies in their bedrooms where you mention fuel. And its clear that fuel is necessary to run the emergency generators at hospitals. For example, so will israel allow fuel to come through on the trucks because we understand that up to now no fuel has been allowed in . Yeah, i understand the need to pursue the question of humanitarian assistance. That is not the idea goal. We are focused on destroying how mazda is capabilities. That is our mission. Our goal regarding your monitoring issue is to differentiate between those, the, the civilian, the people, the, the, the people of gossip out of the house to harvest organization in our strikes in our ground operations. If that indeed develops into that. So yes, while the human to try and wrote a going in and that is that the, the issue was determined by the diplomats doing diplomacy. Our all the ideas, the role is to make sure that we continue to strike and destroy and dismantle from us as a governing authority. That is abused all of the civil entering, not in order to conduct their tourist activity, right . So if israel does have the right to respond to these attacks by how mosse its still under no obligation to adhere to International Humanitarian law, which has the idea of at least hold of error strikes on gods a long enough to that only allow the transfer of aid at the roof of crossing, but in fact, to make distribution of this a possible, i know the expectation that is always waved for white flag and not defend itself in liable. As far as the terrorist attack, a brutal massacre. All men, women, children, elderly, is not going to happen. Were continuing to go strikes against us as they are continuing to conduct the taxes against us as they continue to hold them. I dont know if you go across this number 210. Is there a reason for our national, instead of being held hostage by home, us as we speak and, and, and just so that is why opperation is continuing. We will not see saw operations. And so how much is destroyed and can no longer pose a threat to the people of israel. Israel are in dates of war against this organization. This is not a, an organization you can negotiate with this as an organization that has no regard for human. Life is riley and i understand, and that is why we are determined to destroy them. Well, we are of course aware that israel has said is preparing for a possible Ground Invasion into gaza, which is why israel has been warning gardens to flee from the north of the enclave to the south. So wouldnt it actually be in israels interest to allow more age to be brought into the south because that perhaps would encourage more gardens to evacuate their where they can get that 8 that they need . Yeah, i think weve exhausted the debates about the age, the i guess this is not the organization or the but the cut, the communicating or negotiated thing or the facilitating our role is to destroy from us and that i think we should move on from this issue all right, well you say that your goal is to eradicate how mosque, but even if you are to achieve this goal in whatever form that you imagine it to be, what happens in the long term, what is israels end goal for gone . So if im off is gone, then who feels the vacuum . So we are in the process of no dispatch and they called us as a, as a company organization, as an organization that has utilized all of the tools of government to exit unprecedented desks and destruction is really society. We are still shaken by the images of brutality that the terrace that were funded by this organization, trained by this organization equipped by this organization and government, and instructed by this organization to come dot 1300 more than 1300 people have been butchered in margin hands both from us. We are still conducting funeral, some 200 funerals a day. And i also, and there are still the numbers are increasing every day because were still finding bodies of victims that come us left behind. And so the end, the goal will be for, for some know him us who will go from the golden strip of the words will probably be determined by the people that because of the palestinians, not as well. But we dont want to manage all govern or control gaza. We wont cause it to be a staging bro, for atrocities and crimes against humanity of humanity, of our people. All right, that was peter a learner as folks person from Israel Defense forces. Many thanks for your time. Thank you. Marina thomas has freed to american hostages for what it calls the humanitarian reasons. The mother and daughter were among some 200 people, abducted by him off during his terror attacks on israel. 2 weeks ago, he was President Joe Biden spoken the phone with the to american citizens and said he was over joy by their release as a mother and daughter walk to freedom nearly 2 weeks after being taken hostage by the is the most militant group him us to american citizens held by him us since october 7th were released at least 2 americans are now safely in the hands of his really, authorities in his room. We expect the team from the us embassy to see them very shortly or the coming hours. They will receive any support and assistance they need and of course, were very anxious to be able to re an item with their loved ones. 59 year old you to turn on and his 17 year old daughter and naturally were visiting a couple whats new because of buddha, as positive a trip to israel to celebrate the jewish holidays. They were abducted by humph gunmen as part of a deadly rampage. And to israel that so around 200. 00 captives dragged into gaza. Judas, rabbi in illinois, spoke of his communities relief at the news of this safe for time. The phone didnt stop ringing every 2nd and all the community wanted to know if this is true, people reaching out from all over the world. So clearly people are very touched by this and we are beyond over joyed with this news. At the same time, its important to reiterate that there are still over 200 hostages in the hands of terrorists loved ones. A very still missing says how to is a 200. 00 empty places at us about dina. Intel are viewed praying that soon they too will be coming higher. Were turning now to our top story about the roof of Border Crossing between egypt and gaza, which reopened a few hours ago as weve been reporting trucks loaded with food, water and medicine have now been allowed to enter the palestinian territory. That quote, crossing has been closed for nearly a week. However, its not yet known how long the crossing will remain open. And joining me now is United Nations assistant secretary general in hastings. Shes also a visual, monetary and coordinator in the occupied palestinian territory. Welcome to dw, so russell Border Crossing has been reopened. You have been warning that the Health System in gaza is on the brink of collapse. So will 20 trucks of age make any difference. Thanks brianna, and yes, it will make a difference to those few people who do receive, but its a drop in the bucket. What we are calling for is a stain increasing daily deliveries of Going Forward in the next period. So these 20 trucks. Yes, welcome start. But not nearly enough. Can you perhaps walk us through the process of mediation that led to the reopening of the roof of Border Crossing . So i know the talks were going for quite a long time. Why did it take so long . A part of the reason of course is because theres a number. Busy of different parties involved as rileys egyptians, the partners who are trying to deliver to military assistance, various maam other member states, etc. So theres a lot, as i said, different parties who are involved, and thats a big part of the issue. Another part of the issue, of course, is every member state or party has some of their own interests, but also just different requirements, etc, which really needs to be settled. And unfortunately, because you monetary assistance should be unconditional. And what about those who hold foreign passports and the thousands were waiting to leave gauze time . Could they be allowed to leave at some point in the next couple of hours . I dont know. There are many, many rumors around again theres a number of different parties who were involved and that we need consent. There, safety and security issues, of course involved. And again, each member state has a different methodology in terms of dealing with their own national stuff. I do nighted nations, we are hoping to be able to get some non essential stuff out. But we also want to be bringing in other staff to replace those people who have been in guys are under very, very difficult circumstances. So they can rotate. And so that we bring in new staff who have a are, are exhausted yet, and will be able to contribute and support the Ongoing Operations as we state and deliver or un secretary general is among those who are calling for a ceasefire. What can you tell us about efforts to achieve this to so weve been calling for his military and ceasefire for several days now. Its needed for us to be able to deliver assistance. Without it, we do have other mechanisms called a notification system whereby we inform the car argues that were trying to move. But what we really need is a humanitarian ceasefire to be able to deliver assistance to where people are. That was the un assistant secretary general lynn hastings. Thank you so very much for speaking to us at dw. Thanks very much. I to all right, lets turn our attention now to some of the other stories making news around the world. Another of Donald Trumps former lawyers has agreed to testify against the ex president as part of a plea deal. Kenneth test pro pleaded guilty to filing falls documents as part of efforts to over trop, overturn trumps 2020 president ial election loss in georgia. Hes been sentenced to 5 years probation as well as a fine you, as republicans have dropped a gym. Jordan as their nominee for house speaker, thats after the hard line. Trump ally failed in his 3rd bid for the job with a growing number of members refusing to back him. The house has been paralyzed since Kevin Mccarthy was listed as speaker more than 2 weeks ago before. 3 people have been killed in britain as storm babbitts, batter, scotland and Northern England too were swept into rivers. A 3rd was hit by falling tree. Emergency services and scotland are struggling to rescue families trapped by flood waters. Storm damage has also disrupted flights and very services in scandinavia. Authorities in columbia have seized a property that belonged to the late drug, lord pablo escobar. It has a Popular Museum devoted to the narco traffic, or the Prosecutors Office said escobar voss building, and middling, using a drug profit to a Russian Court has extended the detention of a journalist, accused of violating the law and for an agents. Ill su 4, my shavel works for radio, free europe radio, liberty, which is funded by the us. Shes the seconds us journalist to be arrested in russia since the innovation of ukraine. Wed now like to take you live to the cairo summit where an international to some of this under way leaders from the air world and from around across the world, our discussion will be ongoing conflict between israel. Hum us german 4 minister on the box is speaking. Lets look very unclear. There is no doubt of all civilian lies meta just the same. And let me be also clear, the costs of all the suffering of these past weeks, the suffering that brings us here today, the suffering of the little girls, the mother of the families, have a name. It was homeless. The brought during this terror, but you spend on october 7th, committing atrocious frames like any another country in the world is right and has the right to defend itself. And to protect its people against this tara, within the framework of international law. Thats why the German Government strongly stands and solidarity was useful for germany. The security of the state of east road is non negotiable. What is also clear is that the perpetrators of this terra do not speak for the palestinian people. They speak only for themselves. They speak the language of tara, the post union, mothers and fathers in gaza, struggling to find Drinking Water for the children. Do not speak the language of tyrell, their brothers and sisters in the west bank, in jordan, or 11, who are afraid of regional escalation. Do not speak the language of terror. We hear in this room do not speak that language. We speak the language of international law, of you will need a t of peaceful co existence. Thats what unites us. In this sense, i appeal to everyone to stand up against terrorism. So i appeal to everyone to distinguish between terrorists and the civilian population at all times. And i appealed to everyone to not fan the flames of hatred because that is exactly what, how much and this ones, those want to risk further regional escalation, to divide us this terrace plan must not play out. That is why the fight against homos must be carried out with the greatest possible consideration for the humanitarian situation. For the innocent men, women and children in garza, that is also why we must not now join. Please step up. Our efforts to help those most in need, gemini, has increased its humanitarian a to gaba, by 50000000 euros. We encourage all this, including from the region to join this cost, as some have already announced to do so. It is crucial, stepping up our humanitarian goods. It is crucial that humanitarian goods can now go into java. Why a russell . And i would like to think you the objection, government and us partners, as well as the United Nations for your efforts in this. But we know that more help will be needed to evaluate the suffering. And im glad that here in this room, we agree that ultimately this region needs a new piece process that will allow both is released and palestinians to live peacefully and securely side by side in a 2 independent states. This may sound far away today to but only adjust its last seams. Solutions would also mean the ultimate defeat of from us and its playbook, which is based on a complete rejection of human energy of diplomacy. The object, this is really goals, the mother in gaza. The families and 11 and then need us know they need us the International Community to speak the language of humanity to call she can see the unity of focusing for youth in menu. All right, if you are just joining us, weve been listening to remarks by germany is a foreign minister on a lena bear fox, who is speaking at assignments, being hosted by egypt to discuss the ongoing conflict between israel and palestinian militants. Joining me in the studio for some analysis about all of this, including the german 4 ministers remark is the double use, middle east, and also on 8 rows on us. Any good to have you. So very strong words from an atlanta bear box. She opens by expressing 1st in germany solidarity with israel reiterating its right to defend itself mentioning that is real, security is non negotiable and then she also spoke about the men suffering of gaza. What else stood out for you . Well, 1st of all its, its a brave move, you know, its, its not to be taken lovely in such a core when one of the things you mentioned is when we, she was talking about, is there a way to defend itself with, in international law. You know, this is something also fighting has been expressing very much a clearly linking is repeating again and again. And we see also coming out from, from bad bulk and other european partners, they support is around the right to defend itself. They understand and need to go to an attack now, to counsel how mazda is attacks on israel, but they ask israel, youve got to add her to international law. Youve got to keep, you know, some i, we, we know you feel all rules, have you broken, but you dont have the privilege to break all the rules. And this is also where we connect to the humanitarian crisis. You know, this is also part that is important for you repeated partners to allow you many turn aid for suffering thousands in order to, to, to stick with international law. So these are the 2 things that were seeing trying to be a balanced here in this, in this conference. And a one had a for babel to support israel, but then at the same and also say like, um, maybe impression that ads have received before we understand that that no, all lives are equal or life or pressure pressure. So we dont find, you know, she, she ends up saying that the kids and nothing and the kids and because of the kids in israel, they all deserve the, you know, the dignity and humanity at bringing together. It is free friends enough by mistake because israel now we often focus into what happens in gaza, but israel is on a daily constant back and forth. Weve left on with his ball, and this is a shy it for us in the north and in the southern part of lebanon, which is, are shooting rockets at israel as a proxy off ron. So shes tries to say less all the escalades, like old, prevailing lets, lets take the model. It forces you know, come together and agree on what we should all support to humanity and being the wellbeing of, of all citizens of the region. Yeah. So her appeal to israel then was to differentiate between him off and the civilians and gaza horror stuff immensely under is really bombardment. She also was appealing to the other countries in the region to stand up to terrorism and to clearly distance themselves from groups like come off, especially because the goal of hamas and other militant groups is indeed to fan the flames of hatred. Correct, which weve been seeing in the region for far too saying now its not, but this, this is what weve been hearing from a to refuse, new jersey, you know, talking to their counterparts also with last 2 weeks, asking them to be more outspoken with their you know, not equivocal, you know, contamination of, of the horrors that where you know, conducted by homeless on that day on the 7th of october and as well. And you choose to test it again in this, in this form, which is definitely noteworthy. Im another angle that we need to look to look at what we seeing repeatedly coming in this in this, in the talks in the last hours at, from cairo is the need for you monitoring ceasefire. Weve also heard that from the you and representative which you were speaking to earlier at. Theres a need or theres a push for him and terry and cease fire in order to allow for a to come in. But also maybe, hopefully in order to allow for the release of some more hostages, this is in the back channels. These are messages sent as a constantly if you allow that, we might be able to achieve more progress with having more hostages just released the sign that we were giving from us overnight after they, they could always manage to broker the release of the, of the mother and the daughter with the American Jewish background is just a, its a promising sign. Lets try to go down this path and see if we can get more out of her mos on that aspect and so forth. So for now on that for so for now, hold on to any further escalation or Ground Invasion. Well, Something Else that uh, the German Foreign minister of bad bach, touched upon and of course is all. So the goal of this summit is to avoid this conflict, which is already horrible enough in gaza and israel, northern israel, from really spreading into a wider regional more. And i, you know, i think thats in the interest of all the countries in attendance at this summit. What are some of the things being discussed in this regard . What can be done to really prevent a further escalation . Well, we need to keep in mind whos not in the room. You know, we have a very minor american presence is a very symbolic one. We dont have anybody who was the mover and shaker some the americans there. We also dont have these relays. We know theres the wish for everybody to talk about the end game as such of leading eventually somehow to a new piece process to use it to stay. Solution was also bad for care. Mentioned at right now, im not sure that the is really side is ready for that. Im not sure theres somebody on these really side right now whos willing to hear this, but theres definitely, i think we will see more and more of of the world pushing israel there. And seeing united front of i have countries side by side to do a pin. Countries pushing for that thats for itself is somewhat of an use situation as well as not quite used to in the world is not used to so we can maybe find some encouraging signs there. Well, i know in a bare box that it just now in her marks that only adjust and lasting solution for peace between israel and the palestinians would mean a defeat for from us. Are others attending the summit likely to see if the same way we have heard that weve heard that the, the addiction in the, in the didnt is talking about that we heard also my boss is a representative to official representative of the palestinian authority. Hes the president of the palestinian authority. Hes situated in the west bank. There is a long and bitter risk between the mos who sits in gaza and the palestinian authority, led by my home to boston. The fact of movement there in the west bank, and this is part of the reasons for this great tragedy. The palestinians were not able in the last 1520 years to come together for the cause of palestinian unity and palestine in independence. When one of us speaks and when the world talks about the 2 state solution, the hopes is to leave that without boss. But he has an elderly, a politician whose he had better days and he has not been a no, theres not been elections for the palestinians. And over 50 the, towards 15 years, almost. So the leadership of who is leading now, the palestinians on both sides and casa, and either west bank, its, its, and its old reminiscences, old institutions own leaders. And we actually dont hear the voice of the people, all the petals because people they havent had a chance to, to voice their real opinion and the democratic way. And maybe this will also be part of what needs to be worked around when we try to find a long Term Solution for palestinians. But is there any kind of indication of how much consensus there is . A willingness to really take steps towards a 2 state solution. I mean that idea has essentially been dead for at least 10 years if not longer than that. But it requires both israelis to acknowledge that the palestinians arent going anywhere and for the palestinians to also acknowledge that is rileys, arent going anywhere. How much readiness is there even in the wake of this horrific war that were seeing unfold right now . How much willingness is there among the populations or for the thats how things are still quite dynamic. Day is really, society has been completely shattered and we dont know what would be the outcome on the long term. Will it actually encourage those who feel like theres nobody to talk to and theyre all savages on the other side just as explain why. If you will receive that strength then well we, we actually see a reckoning. Ok enough for enough bloodshed force has not taken us far enough so far in israel. This could be an outcome. Its too early to say. Same goes with the palestinian. Weve been seeing on both societies in his real, under the posting and both territory is addressed to more and more ex, extra msm and far away from political diplomatic solutions. And will this re shuffle with this shock, you know, with a deep crisis that it, it unfortunately brings to both people. Will it be enough to have enough voice as enough brave forces to come from the to wake up from the shadows and say to, to you in and say this is time to move on with a new solution . Hopefully too soon to tell. We also should bear in mind that some of the key players who could perhaps put pressure on israel or also who are behind many of the militant groups operating on the palestinian side. Iran are absent from from the summit. So could there be any steps towards reconciliation or a 2 state solution or some sort of longer term prospect for these 2 nations to live side by side. Unless you ron stop supporting the terror terrace from us and other militant groups and is really leadership is pressure to, to finally take steps in the direction of real statehood for palestinians. So the personal in the america then these rarely is, can only be applied. But the americans are the only want to actually have a say, especially after the support that weve seen them giving israel and the last 2 months. And as long as there was a democratic regime, we will probably see this session. But in 24, were expecting a new uh, you know, it does be election and in the us we dont know whos going to be the next person in the white house. Will it still be fighting or it was going to be the event regional, republican count of our republicans have shown recently in the store thing less push for the 2 state solution, the support for it. So thats and he is really inside the ring. And here actually also do not matter much in the sense of the, of the, of the political a, solutions because were the, what the americans are trying to build is a moderate sunni excess. That includes all the saudi arabia. We heard the talks about this lot. Now it feels so long ago by the american president and we have egypt, we have a jordan, for example. These are all players that have a great dismay to your on theyre going to be very much happy to see you around to see did and, and we can. So in that aspect, these, all, all these process of work against iran, against pushing a runaway and the problem is right now, things are to dynamic to fluid. The blood is boiling, its 2 to into student to say how much of real chance is there for Something Like that to go is middle east analysts, shiny rows on us. Um, great, see here all of your insights. I know well be speaking again over the next coming days. This is not going away. So unfortunately, it doesnt seem like it is many thanks. Indeed. Youre watching the w news coming to from berlin. A quick reminder of our top stories. A are off of Border Crossing between egypt and gaza has reopened for humanitarian aid. Its hope that for nationals will now also be allowed to leave casa, where is really airstrikes continue. Agents. The egypt is hosting an International Conference to discuss the escalating war in government between israel and thomas jefferson, president , l. C. C. Has called for a roadmap to and the complex and revive a path to pizza amorianna evans team. Ill have more news for you at the top of the hour from me and the entire team here and roland, thanks for watching the, the, the, youre watching the w news. Welcome. Weve been bringing you live coverage of a peace summit under way in egypt to address the ongoing conflict between israel and palestinian militants. The conference is host country, egypt has been central to the ongoing conflict since the creation of israel with the roof of crossing into garza now the focal point for humanitarian efforts. We have this look at egypt. Rule as mediator and border guard a neva. Its a gaza and israel, egypt holds a strategic and historical place and the conflict cairo opposed to the formation of these. Riley 1948 and the 2 states afford several was sections of land passed back to the faults between flareups. Egypt took control of the gaza strip when its waters were 1st thrown in 1949, but less than 20 years later israel claimed it during the 6 day war. At the same time seizing this united name to us. In 1979, cairo was handed back the peninsula and the 2 states signed a peace deal. Egypt became the 1st arab country to recognize the states of these ro, the 2 nations have had mostly peaceful relations since and of cooperated on issues like security. Past governments of mediation between israel and from us, which has historical ties to egypt. The militant is the most groups began as opposed to me in branch of the Muslim Brotherhood which was founded in egypt. The Muslim Brotherhood briefly held power of to the egyptian revolution in 2011. That was an ousted by current president of delta o. C. C in a who the, the group has been outlawed in egypt for him to despise cooperation with these rail sentiment amongst objections is largely fold. The palestinian coats and crowds in cairo has been rallying against these rails bombardments of gaza with an election due in december. The government is standing sun on borders and security and says it will not allow a Mass Movement from gaza. Egypt fee is a crude to become responsible for millions of palestinian refugees, like lebanon and jordan before it cairo who said palestinians should not be forced to flee. The lat does advocated for a 2 state solution. The government said it rejects the killing of any civilians. It is urged restraint and said israels response to her mazda is terrorist attack now amounts to collective punishment. Egypt is working to mediate, along with other International Partners and to create a humanitarian lifeline for civilians and gaza. How much has read it to american hostages for what it calls to monetary and reasons the mother and daughter were among some 200. 00 people, abducted by him aust, during his terror attacks on israel on october 7th. Dw was funny for char is falling developments from jerusalem, and i asked her if there was hope that more hostages could be released. Of the release of these 2 american hostages suit me raises hope someone is really swat desperate for any information may be as little as, as, as it is at this point to answer the questions about their that seems to who they are exactly in gaza strip. But also in which condition they, im to both questions is pretty much no Information Available at this point. And its like a lot of people have been taking through the street in tel aviv, in recent days, ever since in fact, 2 weeks ago and october 7th. How most many things unleashed that horrific terrorist attack on these re lease. Theyre asking why the government is not doing, you know, so theres a level of frustration and the level of anger. Because from their perspective the government could do more. Also, just when it comes to sharing information hold, they are trying to get the hostages out. What is exactly the plan . So clearly that a lot of variety of all frustrated and they have in fact, trying to unite amongst themselves. Many of them are taken most of his social media to meet it when his ations sharing pictures of the loved ones. And so how the trying to find out themselves what could be done to help the return of their relatives. While at the same time, the very fact that is be assumed that at least 22 countries are affected by this, that the citizens of at least 30 countries are believe to be held captive in gaza strip. The hope is that they and their diplomatic efforts may put some pressure diplomatic pressure, specifically on israel to make sure that all hostages are being released. But that is still unclear at this point. Just as it is on clear when a potential ground defensive may stop and hold, that also will then influence the dynamic forward from here and the, the situation for the hostages didnt cause us. Right. All right, funny, so a bit of hope, a lot of frustration. But beyond that, how has the mood and israel been affected by the 1st release of at least 2 hostages . As i just pointed out, in that respect tremendously a terrible i tourist attacked by his militants. It is, its just 2 weeks ago. So thats a very short time spending for people to even just come to town terms with what exactly has happened. They have very much traumatized, and they also say they didnt really have a lot of a time to even more because shortly after as well as the cleared. Its where and how most militants as a result, to try to come to terms with their or security, especially people who are jewish and these are out. And they told us very, very different ways. In fact, they told us how they are preparing to either leave the country or staying is well being torn in between this question. What is secure right now being jewish to stay in these route or to go elsewhere. But where, lets have a look at a report showing you could be living her happiest life. She and to a friend know both recently became others for the 1st time. But being safe as jews in israel no longer feels like a given. Im 33 years old. I never felt like i need to be ready to go. Is there any, is my country is my home. I its, it was always like history. It was always stories. Stories that happened in the bath that never happen again. By now or yeah, now its its, its our lives the one to be able to leave if they have to. So they are organizing paper work for their babies. Calling me doesnt have a passport here. So were preparing that. We saw earlier. This is maxine nation. Thats, thats how this off from leaving a for we need to leave. The womens conversation revolves around the question of whether to stay or go. They say many people are toward israel is made of us, the jewish people and it will all leave nobody to be left and so so very sad to think about it here in tel aviv hardly any one feels like swimming, they move the somber. Everyone is on edge. This is our country. We dont have any, any other place. So im, yes, im scared, im afraid. But im not leaving. Never a lot of conceptions we had. And stories that told ourselves about our Business Security just broke 2 weeks ago. Now we, we are trying to establish news stories to tell ourselves what it means to be these people are not alone in their concern before october 7, a strong element of these really, society wants trust. The state, good logic, keep people safe. Despite the regional hostility, that has changed a recent pull suggest that 2 thirds of his release are extremely concerned or frightened, and would in full 5th see the attack as a failure of the government. Those pull numbers, sound shocking, but are they . Donnie ashamed . Lynn is a Public Opinion analyst focusing on peace and conflict research in israel. They are pretty shocking considering that its very rare for israelis to have any sort of consensus. This is a perennially divided society. Its been politically and socially divided since just started statehood. But then again, we are in unusual times and i think its really hard going through that together. And the sense of the state has let them down. Getting out of israel has been difficult since the time many flights have been cancelled. A little bit for nurse as well as our leaving, even if only for a while. New and shiny, dont know yet where they might go. If they decide to to our considerations is that the government is and is pro is ran and the population is, it was like most, most land christians, jews where we have in is read like a big is rarely community. Those wouldnt be the consideration we would take. Its ironic that now we need to find the safe place outside of his rad. Um and these are so big dilemma, because in our store we do feel safe here. But in reality, its not safe to do is to is to raise their babies in peace. But they say growing anti semitism worldwide means it is increasingly difficult to say where that might be funny. In your report, you mentioned that many flights have been canceled out of israel, so what routes are Still Available for those who would like to leave the country and where are is really, is going. It certainly is getting more difficult both to leave israel, but also to get into this country. But yes, there are still flights available limited, but its possible also im, ive been hearing by very sees what hes saying. Is there no flights . Well then theyre just going to go buy ship, go by sea, basically from a high foot towards cyprus. A lot of people ive been talking to also said that cyprus and breeze are pretty much the main option. Theyre looking at right now to be close to israel. To have an option to come back and it really explains the situation of being torn up many of us, many of them actually told us they dont want to go on camera and say they want to leave because they say that just going to help us militants in the or contain to scare is wally. So they actually want to send a strong message that theyre saying hes, well, it really seemed to me uh, as i spoke to people in the streets of philadelphia and that reports that people are really caught in between of being frightened and the spinning of these are no longer in their view being invent so invincible, being frightened and ready to leave, but also not wanting to leave. So that come us doesnt. When that was the double use funny for char reporting for us from jerusalem funding. Thank you so very much. I and youre watching the double you news coming to from berlin. A reminder now of our top story. The roof of Border Crossing between egypt and gaza has reopened for 2 minutes. Hearing aids vehicles are entering the besieged palestinian territory with vinyl supplies. And a convoy has entered into garza carrying food, water, and medicine. Its homestead for nationals will now also be allowed to leave gaza berries really air strikes continue. German 4 minister on atlanta, fairbanks, has called for a new piece process and the middle east at an International Conference in cairo to discuss the escalating, more engagement between israel and some of the conferences being hosted by egypt. President s i just thought ill see, see who also urged regional leaders to find a new roadmap for peace. Israel and tomas are not attending the summit. Youre up to date on the w news, a Mary Anna Evans dean from me and the entire news team. Thanks for your company. The kid talk is changing. 6 years ago he said he cant get any was to, but he does guardians of truth. This time excel gen this chimed in. Dar meets the voices of the 3 talking alter as the other one had to flee into exile. I knew the police would search my house. Courageous people are trying to stem of the turkish governments all sort of tammy calls of some kids. But really its a crime is addressed and the path of trying to take systems ability for his action. What about freedom of to print and freedom of expression . God uses truth starts october 28th on d, w. The. This is the w news, live from berlin. The roof are crossing between egypt and gaza has reopened vital aid has started to enter the palestinian territory around 170. 00 trucks with essential medicine, food, and water for civilians. As casa has in stock fair for days. International leaders are in egypt for a summer to discuss ways to de escalate the conflict between israel and palestinian militants. Heads of states prime ministers as well as