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Sea. Most certainly being watched the clues lead us to ukraine, where we track down suspects. Are you kidding me . Its the kind of attack that could have triggered a wide range and its one of the biggest mysteries of our times around the world. People are asking who could have done this, the were on our way to the crime scene. 120 kilometers off the german coast. We plan to dive to the spots where the explosion took place and see for ourselves a good just a few divers have carried out this attack of historic dimensions. Weve charter to dive boat and to professional crew to find out as of isnt yet. So were right at the spot where the 1st attack took place on north stream to southeast of going home. The sound shop here, this, the 5, this red arrow is where we are now. If you zoom in here, you can see this dotted line. Thats the pipeline we soon realize that nothing goes unnoticed in the baltic. Sea military vessels, petrol, these waters constantly. The world major powers, keep a close eye on one another. Here. A delta echo. Remember that must be the russian worship back there that we heard about us, which means are most certainly being watched here the, the scene of the crime lies more than 70 meters below the water surface. Thats why we brought along professional divers course specially trained for deep sea tides. For the pick up, ive been trying to convince myself that just a normal dive. But i havent quite succeeded because each diver is carrying around 100 kilos worth of equipment for deep sea tides. They need a special gas mixture composed of oxygen, helium, and nitrogen. A year after the attacks german investigators most promising theory sounds incredible, spectacular, active sabotage was carried out with the help of a sail boat in germany. The investigations are top secret. At 1st, not even a dozen officials were brief on the details of the investigation. Still we team from a r d and d type newspapers along with International Partners managed to find a few answers. The. Germanys federal chance 3 is home to a special tax proof room. Only those with the highest security clearance can enter it. Its here that the heads of germany, secret Service Provide government leaders with reports on terrorism wars and espionage. And it was in this room where not long after the attacks, a tip from the dutch intelligence and security surface came to light. It claimed that a special forces commando from ukraine blew up the pipelines and the bombers had used a boat which had departed from Germanys Baltic Sea coast. The search began the we were able to find out that the german investigators had been able to identify the suspect yacht and we were the 1st to report on it. And here it is. The andromeda, the vessel is the german investigators hottest lead to date. A good 15 meters in length. The odd sleeps 10 in 5 cabins. But what connects the boat to the north stream, blast investigator, se traces of the same explosive secured at the crime scene were found inside the drama to heres the reconstruction of events. On september 6th, 2022, a group of 6 people are thought to have kicked off the operation and ross talk. The 5 witnesses reports. Seeing a white van arrived at the cities who are due to marina they are the crew bored to the yard and set sail. Witnesses say that 5 men and one woman were on board. Some of them are likely divers, the smoke stream pine, some slices. Measles, the licks and the phone, and most of the men costs in spanish, hospital explosions in the area whether leaks were upset. At 2 o 3 am. An explosion was detected in the pipe bay of north stream to south east of the Danish Island of bourne home. Exactly 17 hours later, 3 more explosions were measured. Just the seconds of part. The blasts were so strong that they were registered by far away sized monitors. 3 days later, another link was discovered in north stream 2, north stream line was rented and completely inoperable. Just one pipe of north stream 2 remains intact. Investigations have been launched in germany, sweden, denmark, poland, and russia. In germany, the Public Prosecutor general is heading the proceedings. The legend of fences include anti and constitutional sabotage. Tests is so if you can find an answer back from this at any rate, its an attack of historic dimensions because it was all targeted against the countries infrastructure that has glaring and very far reaching after effects. So we really ought to speak of this as in a storage break question. Its the kind of attack that in past environments could have triggered a wide range in war. There are many possible culprits and motives for the attack because internationally, few projects where its contentious as north street championed by 2 friends, rushes, let americans and former german chancellor, gerhard schroeder, or the blow open these, this guy, we need this gas and its the most economical way to get it and everyone who deals with the Energy Policy knows thats 50 biased us. Oh, this cheap gas blow directly from the board, russian to meet in germany. A distance of over 1200 kilometers. The pipeline right through the baltic was a kick in the teeth for Eastern European countries who long earned good money from the pipelines running through their territories. Skip this one on from ukraine, was skeptical right from the start as it for so exactly, walsh. In fact, what happened, name made this bypassing of ukraine and of the countries like poland, which also sold the risks. And because they themselves had pipeline systems which supply gas to western europe. Time. And again, the us also criticized the north string project. Nordstrom, to which simply give russia an opportunity to put more of a stranglehold on ukraine and ukraines economy during this time of tension. And so we were very much against it for geo political purposes. Shortly before russia invaded ukraine, us President Joe Biden threatened to put a stop to the pipeline. If a rushing vase, that means tanks or troops crossing the border of ukraine again, then there will be no longer north steam to we. We will figure that following the attacks. This highly politicized environment led to the proliferation of various theories. A prominent one comes from seymour hersh, how america took out the north stream pipeline. The famous us journalist says hes uncovered evidence that the us did us, maybe divers planted the explosives under the cover of a needle exercise hearst claims his theory has found a ready audience. Some believe the us is capable of anything, but most experts doubt the credibility of hersheys claims. They note his story is based on just one anonymous source, and that some of the details are provably false. The others to focus on another major power, the military expense and hot, and thats too much time left us as time is a g, u i. Sometimes a lot of experts say russia those who believe russia was behind to sabotage, mainly pointed to the movements of russian ships which they view a suspicious ship from russia is said to have been positioned very close to the sides of the attack just days before the explosions occurred. The what is bad enough to presume that russia also planted the explosives . Possibly even employing mini submarines. German investigators also analyzed the satellite images to see if theres anything behind the suspicions. But to date, they say theyve seen no proof. The attack was carried out by russian ships so the german investigators continued to concentrate on the ceiling and trying to reconstruct its route the after setting sail from wellstar. The electorate secretaries are thought to have made stops at vic on the island of including the Danish Islands of bourne haunt castillo, unzip, and co object imposed on and we discover the andromeda evidently dropped anchor at sun palm sweden too. Did anyone see the crew . We aimed to find out and track down one witness. This german yachts man says he met the enrollment as crew. There were 2 men standing there with short hair. Military, id say really short like buzz cuts, boots and a woman in the background down in the brunette. I saw 6 people in total company, but they were partly below deck with the bundle that their, their age. I dont much younger than i or 40 or so nobody was really young. Defined kind of guns to then incent home harbor tossed important observed something that quickly needed attention. A 3rd boat needed help ducking, but the legit bombers didnt nothing does he have a help kind of understood and they made no effort whatsoever to help get a seat. I got spent who sees Something Like that gets off his boat and helps. But they didnt do that, they just stood on the boat and watched. After that, i approached them and tried to explain that thats not what you do. How did they read that one translated for the other into an Eastern European language. I didnt understand the electric bombers didnt just raise eyebrows and sweden and co op jack to the harbor. Master remembers. The crew only arrived in the afternoon and the next morning they cast off again. The flag was german, but the accents were Eastern European. Thats what caught my attention and why i called the border guards. The polish Public Prosecutors Office Confirmed to us that the enrollment was here and that its crew was checked out. The german investigators figure theres even video footage of the crew in the harbor. But poland has yet to provide them with any images. Clearly, cooperation is lacking. The we meet with the Public Security of state, responsible for coordinating the Country Security and intelligence services. He suspects the russians are behind the attacks and isnt convinced by germanys findings and money. Were convinced that there werent any explosives or explosive materials on this. You want to blow nord stream to or one up with that means this operation, this unit and nothing to do with those incidents. And if i go into the oh, but thats as far as i know, they were just people who wanted to enjoy themselves. Definitely, and thats a, this trip had a purely terroristic character or something. There was no one on it to had even the slightest military or sabotage related training join. Yeah, im your product isnt and some of the how credible is it that the and drama that was chartered by ordinary tourists . Because fig passports were clearly used to rent the yacht. We know that a romanian and double gary and passport were presented. The bulgarian passport was made out in the name of the kind of pop of german investigators figure this has an assumed name. Apparently the skipper of the yacht used this forge passport. Another passport was issued to a man with a common romanian name. The photo was clearly exchanged for another the investigators believe the man who really is depicted the mis photo is named of a larry k. Hes thought to hell from ukraine. The photos on social media show him in uniform adding to the controversy. A good this mean a ukrainian soldier took part in the attack. And if so, whose orders was the following . Germanys Public Prosecutor made reference to a very k. In a closed meeting. We have succeeded in almost certainly identifying a person who being very cautious now could possibly be an accomplice the we decide to follow the suspects traces and look for, but larry k and ukraine to ask him, did you have anything to do with the attacks on the north stream pipelines, larry case, grandmother suddenly shows up. I think youve not seen him in a while. Not for a while. When was the last time . How long ago . Probably a year. Well, hes in the defense. You that i dont you serving . No. Yes. No. You dont talk to him. Well, you know, only during the real time she calls, he doesnt come home. Know is it him . So . Yes, you will hard to process right now. Hes under pressure from all sides season. I use it for more as a so hes being put down to ameliorate at least by giving pressure like that dont even get something which i dont know its oh, yeah, sorry. I dont want to talk further. His family says that, but larry k was on the front when the attacks on the north stream pipelines took place. We cant reach him to confirm this in the meantime, larry k is said to have protested his innocence to his family. Could it be that someone purposely used his identity and that the traces which lead to him were left deliberately . Would hardly professional bummer sweep, passport, photos and explosives behind the someone. Walk the investigators to find these clues minded coefficient in the day 4 months. Jones are to ship to my, my professional experience tells me or gives me reason to suspect or feel that its too good to be true. Yes. Ok. Even order me at the whos not to tell you where me that the person who comes from ukraine wasnt motivated by a Russian Secret Service officer to leave those red herrings right from the start. Piece of mind you. Thats purely conjecture. Of course well, well get back what i need to date. German investigators clearly believe theres no indication this was a false flag operation. But whoever it was, one things clear. It happened here best to another oxygen flow check on that rubber boot according to our so nor device north stream to should be located some 70 meters below our Current Location as they reach the sea bed. But where is the pipe line . The divers must use extremely bright lights to make out anything at all. It is not stream to the but wheres the leak . The here are the 1st traces of the explosion. The steel and concrete were simply ripped apart. At the pipe burst, the refund on the pipeline is easy to recognize. Its a random meter above the sea floor. The visibility got really bad. All of a sudden the ground was gone. So we were at the end of the pipeline at the exit point. You could really see how the metal was bent outwards at the dive is complicated and risky. The diving team knows the dangers from their daily work. Their verdict, planting explosives here would be tough, but possible and the whether were good. I need to call them a decent eco signed or what you could with such a craft. If all else worked, it would be doable. The german investigators have no more doubts either. It could have been done using i got the at the German Federal chance during the criminal police office. The b k presents its latest findings about the north string blasts and the yacht for investigators the explosives used were especially significant in analysis. Determined h m x, also known as oxygen was employed, gets an explosive use almost exclusively in military applications. Could this help identify the culprits . Octo gain is oxygen isnt an explosive. You can just produce a time in your garage. Foothill this to show the explosives typically used in terrorist attacks. The ones that can be made from common chemicals. By yet oxygen is a relatively complex synthesis because and teases the size. That means the terrace to blow up. The pop line must have forced it from somewhere. Now, pieces of the mangled pipeline life spread over hundreds of meters on the sea floor. The magnitude of the devastation res, doubts in the press as to whether an ordinary ceiling got caught up a week. Such havoc. Weve been modeling then both my colleagues in germany and in california and what, how much would we actually need of the explosive sion to produce what were seeing in the data we are saying now that you definitely need less than 50 kilos of explosives to produce the pattern that were observing its also findings like the split of let the andromeda to remain the german investigators hottest lead. So they followed the clue as pertaining to the way it was rented. The the yacht was booked via email. The german investigators believe that this e mail was also sent by a man from ukraine. We decide to follow the money, hoping it will lead us to the culprits. The yacht rental was paid for by a Company Based in warsaw. This is worth 50. I live over a firm that extensively makes its money from tourism should be located. Officially, the firm is headed by 2 women. But according to our research, theyre likely just acting as fronts. We find evidence of a man who is possibly behind the company. His name was stem a, hes ukrainian and does business with the ukranian government. Is he really the head of the company that rented the and drama to the we suspect that were stem a as in kia or team from a r d and su deutscher, indeed, site newspapers try to speak with the re stem a lives in a neighborhood with tight security we wait for the entrance to his courtyard until he appears. Hi. Can i have 5 minutes of your time . Are you kidding me . The does re stem a have something to do with the attacks on north stream . Or did he let the payment for the rental run through his company . The clues are increasingly leading to ukraine. Will they end there . And if they do, was the bombing a private operation, or what the ukranian state involved in some way, the 3 months before the explosions, the b, n. D, germanys for an Intelligent Service was warned by the netherlands that an attack on the north stream had been planned back in june. After the attacks this warning finally reached the chancellors office. In hindsight, it looks like a prophecy. The warning mentioned a boat and fig passports and the general, but larrys allusion. A commander in chief of Ukraines Armed forces was said to be involved apparently the c i a was aware of the plan to attack and warranty ukraine against it. Saying, if youre planning something dumped, did ukraine do it any way and launch an attack on germanys gas supply for the German Government . Any evidence of ukrainian involvement is sensitive, because its germany supports ukraine with weapons and billions of bureaus. And its more with russia that but why would ukraine take such a risk . Especially in the middle of a war. The Ukrainian Government didnt answer our questions, but the president himself has publicly denied his country, had any involvement in the sabotage. Okay, even though it wasnt ukraine, people only assert that to slow down a to us the memorial crane citizen the German Government wont comment on potential culprits. The vice chancellor says everything is still too vague when the shuttle is, it turns out that ukraine digit will they still be more weapons deliveries is really i dont want to speculate on that and im not allowed to either. Thats for the Public Prosecutor to clear out. And the german chancellor will lock shorts, declined interview requests, and didnt apply to written requests. A year on investigators are still looking for the saboteurs who bonds in north stream pipelines and those who ordered them to do it. It remains a case against persons on know what is known. Is that the and drama to return to russ talking a little more than 2 weeks after it, but to see and the electorate saboteurs simply vanished. They didnt even come to collect their Security Deposit of several 1000 bureaus. There are clues which point to people from ukraine. Yet it remains far from clear who set sail on the andromeda in september 2022. And what really happened on board and on the sea for many countries and individuals had a motive to blow up the north stream pipelines. But the search continues the news, [000 00 00;00] the, the we a here because he with the german colonial history is a book filled with for fine chapters. 4 generations of people share not only their stories, and their families is still about racism, survival and resistance. In 15 minutes on the d. W. The ground most it is guessing an extra in the know the in the, in states of how are ya know . Most of it is hard to come by and its awesome. Can use the energy. 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