Social media app light. Take talk. Well take a closer look the my name is melissa chant, thanks for joining us. The Chinese State or pro badging proxy actors has started to target human rights activists to live abroad. They do this by making false bomb threats, against hotels and embassies, giving the name of the dissident as the perpetrator. So what happens next is the police, whether in europe or the middle east or asia arrests, the dissident. In some cases the situation is cleared up quickly and they are let go. But in others it becomes consequential. Most recently in bangkok, the wife and children of an exiled chinese dissident where escape in china and on their way to freedom in the netherlands when they had their e. U. V says were invoked following the bomb threat. Then ty, authorities did change them. Heres go, pung, the sun. We counting their experience was if you dont have ha, yes. Oh no. I was terrified and angry when i heard the accusation. Thomasville and i cannot accept their false accusations and slander or was it just what, what else . My father told me that they also asked the time police to arrest and what, what if we need a little issued a warrant type . Thomasons, i dont tie what type when he was joining us as bethany alan. Every human she is the china reporter at x. Hughes and was the 1st to report on this new chinese tactic back in the spring. She is also author of badging rules, how china weaponized its economy to confront the world. I mean, would it be fair to call that you officials in this instance useful idiots. I mean, they sell for it, right . The rowboat, these visas, and now we have a vulnerable chinese family in danger. Or you know, i think its a, its a difficult situation because the whole reason that you know what, what goals family believes and what other uh, you know, activists who have been subject to similar tactics believe is that the Chinese Government, that the Chinese State is ultimately behind these false bomb threats and, and to be clear, no bombs have been found in any of these instances. And, but, you know, there are such things as, you know, real bomb threats that are made against, against embassies against hotel chains. And so it already is you have to, to investigate. But without family in particular, its not clear, especially given my previous reporting follow up reporting from a and, you know, a very positive, very clear reporting environment in the netherlands. That with the this is now well known tactics. Its not clear why that, you know this families asylum application has not been reactivated. Lets talk about ty authorities. Um, how are they handling this . Well, the government of thailand is, is very close to china and that has been true for a number of years. If you look back on the 2010, the tide, government deported dozens of riggers back to china despite it being very clear that those rigors would not face any kind of justice there. And indeed those, those men who were reported to back to china have not been seen again so many pro democracy activists or training this of those who are outside of china. Dont travel to thailand for this, for this very reason that they know that the tire to words are not going to be on the side of sacks or justice, but are likely to do the bidding of, of the Chinese Government. Now you reported on this bomb threat tactics back in the spring, it doesnt appear as governments, particularly there immigration officials or Law Enforcement, or any more aware of this frightening development. And what have you seen in terms of reaction and response . All right, so the story that actually was reported back in march and april related to 3 different people in 3 Different Countries. While im seeing you in the netherlands, im assuming you tom in germany and bob flew in the United States who is now us citizen. And there were bomb threats made in their names against Luxury Hotel Chains in, in more than just those 3 countries. And we can confirm around 9 countries. And the authorities in Different Countries have reacted differently. Now, bob flew in the us is, you know, well known and well respected and us, you know, authorities. So if you talk to investigators about it, you know, he said that he spoke with the guys office of Trans National repression and through tongue in germany, told me that she has been working with the German Police on an investigation. You know, looking at who has been behind this harassment winding you, it has reported this to josh authorities. He has been not very pleased with their reaction and not the same is true for a, a dust reporter of a woman who has been also covering this. And she has also said that that your stories are not taking it seriously or not being proactive about investigating and not doing enough to help the people who are the targets of this kind of a threat. Now this is basically if, if the Chinese Government isnt the behind useful contrast, theyre essentially what the nice thing local Law Enforcement to try to harass and perhaps even get these wanted pro democracy activist deported back to china. And if thats the case, that is really an escalation and what we have seen in the Chinese Government tactics of extra territorial transnational or oppression. Try to bring a back people to china, Bethany Allen and abraham in thank you so much for joining us. More than 100000 migrants have made the dangerous journey across the mediterranean. Its so far this year and more than 2000 have died or gone missing. Many of these people are from asia, including bangladesh, afghanistan, and pakistan. 90 percent of migrants who enter the european union, k human smugglers who over promise and under deliver, often with the deadly consequences. Looking at the footage of these votes, you may wonder why people sign up for such a deadly trip. There are many reasons, but one is because of this information and miss information online. And lets get more on this from dw reporter finish java beans. How are human traffickers using social media . And its not bad or social media. They have presence on youtube, on facebook. Im very actively working on tick tock. Im often from accounts that appear to be of humans smart plugs. Regularly, video content is uploaded and on this video. So you can see migrate and sometimes getting out of god out of drugs, or sometimes walking into the country that they were drunk promised by human difficulties. And then some of the review of these migrants are getting testimonies and telling that, you know, theyre introducing themselves and saying that we have 50 reached austria or, or it lee. And then the human traffickers, us them about the services. And they use the system known as diem, which they refer to the in the can a journey that they get from the as you mean, like youve got gang, hes got game yes for basically human death because are no one by the game. And so they would say that, you know, his game is very professional, his game is very comfortable. And to also use words like donkey like dec fee for all of these terms are being used in this business. And human jessicas are making this convincing videos and trying to establish their credit ability that they are offering the best services off. Because migration this journey costs a lot of money, people have to save up for years before they hand over money. I mean, it seems like the smugglers are, are very convincing then. Yeah. And, and they make really more so videos. Its a tactic that they use often in these videos they put on job these rap music and some of the admitted, for example, i have given an example, one of the amused of the song that they often use implies. So that you, im not if you cross the border, so basically uh, illegals, migration is an october priority. Heroism, behaviorism. And one of the songs that another song that they use is it implies that it requires a lot of garbage and, and a big heart to become part of the game. Because who wants to suffer alone . Who wants to live alone, but to have to do it to provide for your family. So basically, visual mind the size, the concept of migration and, and this, these songs are not only used by human smugglers on their be to us, but also by migrants who are taking these journeys. And the lot of people are following these accounts and getting inspired and believing that its a fantasy worth of do you talk about a lot of people following these accounts . Would it be easy for someone like me or youtube to follow these accounts . Yeah, some other sites not for difficult actually. I did it. Um, so i created an account and i started following a few of them in small clubs and i contacted one of them and i asked for the particular service of the game. And i also, i use this word that is that our game will really be from one destination to another. And i was promised, and i was doors that you know, whatever. So with this i, which of meet up, you know, the able to be, they really provide me those services. And i was surprised how easy it was for me to contact the human smuggler, often on facebook and on you youtube. And also when picked up to see people commenting on these videos. And there is a communication going on between human smuggler and people administer. This is only one side of the story, which is very noisy and beautiful. But the reality is, a lot of people who take up these journeys, its a, its, its a dangerous journey. Thousands of people have, have died in these journeys. And we cannot forget what happened in june. The ship that gift the size of the cost of these hundreds of people died in more than 350. 00. Well from buck is done and only 12 survived. So lets have a listen to what wonder if the survive was towards d. W. About what his situation was when he was being helped by human jessica in libya, a heavy but almost go down. It was a really hard time and the thought of going home came to my mind. Many times i saved many, you with it, and i thought, what besides, how would i pay back the huge loan that i had taken off . But i knew these thoughts prevented me from returning something on the because the agent said 1600000, rubies would be deducted right away from anyone who return a lot of the guardian out of office me the one. So whats the way to stop this is a crack down on the human traffickers. I mean, this could be one of the strategies, but i dont think theres a solution unless countries like us gone this done like buckets on an Indian States like been job brew white Economic Opportunities the to their people provide Job Opportunities with the people. I dont think this crisis when and you can put all the human smugglers him and drop it goes into jail, but the demand is such high that there will be more people in the business and who weve tried to capitalize on peoples expeditions peoples dreams to have a better life, so that i dont see any easy solution because of this crisis is javan. Thank you so much for joining us. A good by the. Every jenny is far less surprises. Me is going to allowed to give you some one day in the course of the right people in your northern most count the police the free time, but still very much alive. 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