Were putting them on ventilators earlier than usual so. There is some good news the speed of new infections in spain is waning but that could change. Whatever the case madrid is back under lockdown a great deal of europe is reintroducing restrictions as infection spike is imposing a curfew from saturday parts of the city and now hotspots in germany daily coronavirus cases have hit a new high since april rising hospital raids have Health Officials wide in the u. K. The governments reviewing measures in iceland pubs clubs and arcade holes and gyms are closed there are fears the latest wave of infectious could be much higher than the 1st and paris has shot at spas but there is resistance. To. This is pathetic. When you look at whats happening with public transport people are crammed together in metros and buses. Is a 3rd i think its stupid its a political issue the government is constantly manipulating people left right and center with economic interests. Running an economy and keeping a pandemic a baby is a balancing act so far the virus hasnt overwhelms germanys hospitals but theyre in a better position to tackle the 2nd wave bruno table had just started working here at the hell eos clinic in berlin when the coronavirus pandemic reached germany. The younger sister and doctor is still impressed by just how quickly the hospital reacted in march. For example we reallocated parts of the central surgery area to be used as a new intensive care unit within 24 hours. Along with that entire coronavirus Treatment Centers were set up in berlin equipment was scarce and management were worried there werent enough ventilators many hospitals had to improvise the 1st wave of infection took the hell yes clinic by surprise. From the cup at the place far as testing capacities are concerned in terms of masks and protective clothing we are prepared we know where and when you talk about allies patients we can make quick diagnoses and quick decision was them. Everyone who arrives at the hospital is tested for corona virus before theyre admitted and patients are strictly separated those who test negative go to the green ward those who test positive go to the red toward a suspected cases go to the yellow ward. Feels this system is safe. We havent seen a single case of patients infecting staff since these measures were initiated now treating coronavirus patients has become routine. The applause once heard from german balconies has quieted down people seem to forgotten the significance of Health Care Workers but so many coronavirus deniers have taken to the streets in recent weeks is something nurses and doctors struggle to understand. Some people say ive never seen corona virus so i dont believe in it never seen electricity but i dont put my finger in the socket weve seen coronavirus here weve seen deaths. Bruno table has also seen the effects of the corona virus 1st hand but he knows that his hospital is well prepared for what the pandemic might bring. Gandhi is an Infectious Disease doctor and research or with the university of california San Francisco monica great to have you on the show what do the rising rates need lock down the latest preparations all tell you you know who we are either in a 2nd wave or more likely the continuation of our 1st wave and unfortunately we havent gotten on top of this calling pandemic the keys are still rising in the raising interim many and throughout the United States and in europe however death rates are staying lower than they were during the 1st day what do you call lock downs though a blunt instrument in the fight against the corona virus. Because lock downs are extremely disruptive to the economy to the poor to workers to sell many aspects of other aspects of Public Health and there are other ways that we can stay safe from infection and those pillars of pandemic control are essentially social distancing Wearing Masks hand hey jean ventilation doing things outside when we can and stay away from large crowds but complete lockdown are completely blunt instrument theyre both acted as a spectacle work out that were going to have ramifications for so long. Crowds weve seen huge protests also here in berlin against these lockdowns mean a justified or or is it quite. Counterproductive considering these people are all coming together and maybe nowhere musts so its completely counterproductive to be in large crowds without masks so there is absolute full knowledge many of the seriousness of this disease and we have to completely change life as we know it Wearing Masks unusual. Complete social distancing is unusual not having large crowds is different having settings where we are keeping to small cohorts of groups doing things outside keeping things ventilated all of this is different life is different but it is risky to be in large crowds without masks in the setting of a pandemic i was just talking to friends in sweden minot wearing mosques the boz a full why and they say relaxed. You know sweden is a very interesting piece that will be looked at for her for years in decades to understand what happened there is social distancing at the beginning there was sort of a recommendation to the public to stay away from each other there were a lot of deaths at the beginning very unfortunately because a lot of their vulnerable older people people in Nursing Homes died and whether there is more immunity in the population is being speculated i think thats likely true they do stay away from each other in general but youre right things are much more normal in sweden they took a different strategy they are in a different place but it was at how expensive the beginning if an interview you said how much virus your breathing is probably one of the most important determinants of how sick you get do you still stand by them. As you know we and others have been looking at that question of the viral dose or the viral inoculate the amount that you get it is proportional to how sick you get and weve not only been looking at this with part of virus this is actually been shown in missiles during the salmonella many other Infectious Diseases were putting together a review paper on this now but the meaning is that if this is true with chronic virus social distancing and wearing that mask reduces the amount of ours who get in and the likelihood that youre going to become ill and this seems to make sense in animal models and what weve been seeing this virus including the decreasing mortality in places that are consistent with facial masking monica 2 quick questions for you what do you think about your president s message that hes sending to the rest of the world. I think President Trumps message is dangerous and we did kill lists and he has been. Flouted almost all Public Health recommendations cept for testing he doesnt mask he doesnt actually distance he keeps large crowds he doesnt Contact Trace in the case of this disaster he didnt isolate it in encourage quarantining he just tested there is only one strategy of the pandemic and its not enough and lastly if you can sum it up in in one word whats going to end this pandemic. You know it is not being normal for at least a year plus the vaccine on top of it so it is Wearing Masks stay away from each other hand washing and then waiting for that safe and effective vaccine but not completely shutting down society you heard from Monica Gandhi thank you very much for being us are today. Here and now its their aquariums chance to answer your questions on the coronavirus if you want to look into something in particular just write to us on our future gen. If i free coverage from code 19 do i still have to wear a mask. Sometimes its easy to forget that that millions and millions of people worldwide have also recovered from coke at 19 and want to return as much as possible until life as usual but what does coming out the other end mean are you safe from the disease because youre immune can you still pose a potential danger to others do you need to continue to social distance and wear a mask its all questions that we still dont have a firm answers to we just have to guess and rely on what we know from other Infectious Diseases particularly those caused by other coronaviruses based on what weve seen so far with coke at 19 people do acquire some unity the problem is we dont know for how long on average but we do know is that with other corona viruses that infect humans immunity can wane pretty swiftly there are a number of studies that convincingly show that people can be really infected with some of them within a year and there have been a few isolated documented cases of that also happening with covert 19 also at least in some of those cases the people who were infected showed no symptoms the 2nd time around so were they infectious to others we dont know and to me it seems like in general that until we have better data when it comes to questions that we have to answer with we dont know we should be erring on the side of caution so in the face of this particular we dont know i go for the fallback position which is to continue to assume that masking up is a way to protect yourself and others even if youve recovered from covert 19. 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My husband went to peru because of the crisis. If he hadnt gone there we would have died of hunger. That sentiment down. Just starts october 16th. They say d. W. Nears a live from berlin with especially. Coverage of the u. S. Vice president ial debate with a just a poor weeks to go until Election Night on november 3rd democratic candidate kamel harris takes on incumbent republican Vice President mike pence in a showdown thats set to make history. Im Claire Richards and welcome to tonights a special edition of deja vu news we are Just Moments Away from what is perhaps the most highly anticipated a Vice President ial debate in a living memory incumbent republican Vice President mike pence will go up against the democratic senator from california harris with a less than a month to go until the u. S. Elections its being held in a Salt Lake City utah where the 2 contenders are set to take the stage in just about 15 minutes time this debate is of course being watched especially closely after President Trump returned to work at the white house after 3 days in hospital if its also an evening thats going to make history senator kamel harris is the 1st woman of color nominated to a major parties ticket and she set to make her debut on that stage and meanwhile trumps Vice President mike pence is set to face serious questions about whether he would be ready to assume the office of president given Donald Trumps Coronavirus Diagnosis we bring you the debate live in its entirety once things get underway but 1st lets take a look at the 2 contenders. But we are bringing a unique team of coverage tonight with our u. S. Correspondent carolina chernoi in washington d. C. And Stacey Bivins with me here in the studio from our u. S. Election team to give us some analysis but i do it want to start with you carolina this is a debate comes at the end of an unprecedented week in u. S. Politics what were the chances that this debate would it take place at all after all weve seen. Well its not really a surprise clear because this white spread concern over the virus a recent polling showed that a large majority of americans really wanted the bates to go ahead outs planned also this is an opportunity for both parties to present themselves in a more political and more president ial way than their president ial candidates did steering the last president ial debate and the outbreak of the current i was in the white house and the infection of the president also of course served as an important reminder of the main role for a Vice President that is to be able to step in and lead in case the president is ill or dies and this is why even though Vice President. As you already mentioned are not really the focus during a president ial campaign this debate is definitely crucial to the American People and i would even say especially after what weve seen so at the same time that hes going to be trying to convince voters that he would be ready to take over the role of the presidency Vice President hence is also going to have some work to do it to move the topic away from the president s health state lets turn to you and ask what can we expect to see from mike pence tonight well its going to be impossible to move away from the coronavirus its front and center on stage youll see the plexiglas youll see that the contenders are 12 feet apart or more than 3 and a half meters apart. And kemal a harris is going to be her job to keep the focus on the co Foreign Affairs a matter how pence tries to pivot now he is a very good debater and hes very skilled and hes a loyal soldier so hes going to stick to the script hes going to defend. President donald trump and hes going to force Camilla Harris to defend her record as a prosecutor and to defend joe bidens record specifically the crime bill. Thats right so weve got an experienced debater in it mike pence but also coming to harriss experience as a prosecutor that well be seeing play out on that stage and of course this is the one and only Vice President ial debate but there were meant to be 2 more president ial debates and i want to turn to you now carolina because that has come up for debate a little bit after Donald Trumps diagnosis but the coronavirus casting some doubt on the situation under what circumstances do you think a team biden would agree to further debates going ahead. Well indeed biden said to say that there should not be a debate if President Trump still has called it and he said this does hours after donald trump said he intended to participate in the next weeks president ial debates in miami and biden also said that his decision would be guided by the Cleveland Clinic doctors and that both candidates biden and trump should follow the guidelines but as we all know mr trump usually thinks differently and he tweeted he will attend even as he remains infectious and will have to wait and see what the center for Disease Control and prevention say is and if the commission on president ial debates really keeps to that and announces the debates are not. All right after this week i imagine that biden must be feeling quite confident what do you have the polls say about that those days i dont think there biden is too confident and they need to talk confidence i think because we saw what happened with the last campaign so i think that theres still a search to try to get people to come out and vote and to vote early most importantly and the polls show biden in the lead and nationwide some polls have him up by 9 points others have him up by 12 Percentage Points and hes up in the states that really matter iowa hes leading wisconsin hes tied in ohio which is a really important state as far as Electoral College goes and bias for a meal in the lead and florida pennsylvania and nevada so hes up but we know how these polls can go the numbers can be traded people can say theyre supporting one candidate and the clip and you another or theyre stay home so we have to wait and see what happens as you say 2016 was a huge shock for the pollsters as im sure people are taking that with a bit of a grain of salt but of course tonight is not entirely about biden it is about his running mate kamel a harris and her performance against mike pence apparently not lets go back to you im curious if you can tell us exactly what shes going to be trying to get across tonight. Well i say she said the pandemic is going to be really in the focus of the debate tonight and 8 minutes is going to start not only donald trump not only because because of the in terms infection but also because the corona virus has killed more than 2210000 people in the United States and this is something that we have maybe forgotten that it has been shaded because of the infection of the president of the United States but this number is still increasing in some states and also from the economic point of view since a pandemic hit the United States millions of people have lost their jobs so both candidates will have to talk about the pandemic and this is going to be definitely in the focus but they will also have to make the case that they are ready to overtake the duties of a president of the United States all right carolina chinmoy in washington d. C. And state events here with me in the studio well be coming back to you both after the debate to get some analysis but for now were going to turn our attention elsewhere. So we will take a look now at a key demographic for the trump ticket prolife even helical christians like Vice President mike pence of course a major voting bloc in the United States and for them a candidate stance on abortion is often crucial she visited the midwest state of indiana to meet young religious voters who have no doubt about who theyre going to vote for Chris Uhlmann ring needs fellow activists they are all devoted to the calls christian found inspiration in the bible which she takes this route. They are on their way to an Abortion Clinic to try to persuade women to keep their pregnancies. Angelica looks like her make up 25 percent of u. S. Voters most of them share a central goal to ban abortion. We are kind of the the last stop before that abortion we want to reach them one more time and so thats why were here its my duty to do what i can do here to persuade as many people to not have abortions as possible but ultimately thats and gods hands and one day they will have to give an answer to god. She and her fellow activists believe donald trump is as committed as they are to banning abortion abortion is such an important issue in our time and i cannot trust a president who believes that abortion is ok without the right to life we have nothing so if were taking away innocent lives no one has right the right to life is so important and im seeing that from him and thats why i will be voting for him. Politics professor laura vinson from the university of indianapolis has been analyzing trumps supporters the evangelical vote is critical to Donald Trumps reelection theyve been essential part of his base since he began running in 2016 and even though sometimes the president has wavered on policy issues the evangelicals have never wavered on their support for him theres no generation gap in terms of the evangelical bloc you see this with Younger Voters obviously with older voters in their support as well and you dont see a difference in terms of age. Christina studying to be a nurse or a spare time shes already trying to save lives one way talking with people about abortion another way she says despite voting for trump theres a lot about donald trump that i dont like that i dont agree with but in the areas that he does promote truth and justice i pray that god would bless his administration heavenly father we thank you that you are of offer of life and that Prayer Office crucial support for her and her friends they are also praying for donald trump but he recovers and is reelected to fight with them against abortion. And we go now to g. W. Washington bureau chief all who brought us that report shes been on the road through midwestern states and she joins us now from Cincinnati Ohio and as i understand youre at an election watching party there whats the feeling at that bar downtown. Right we finally found a watch party because most of them are taking place words really but you know we are into spar just out of cincinnati and people are slowly getting excited i just talked to a woman next to me she said it just cant be better than last time i asked her who she thinks is going to win and she has no dollars that this will become a law is i talked to another guy here hes i think rather little bit more on the penn side thinking that he with his experience as a debater might be the one who will be the winner of this nights debate we shall see and sounds like an interesting place to be watching from we dont just see your report on angelical christians in indiana how important would you say they are as a voting group in that crucial midwestern region. Well they are you know they are 25. 00 of all voters in the United States kind of are part of this group they are kind of single issue voters the only thing which is for them is that the president is in the white house who is against abortion and mike pence tonight will take this stand right. Hes kind of fighting for that cause is about from the very beginning on and thats probably a reason why dont trump picked him so if you talk to people in the streets there are many maybe not only im jelly called cults also catholics who say this is kind of the most important topic for him and we have to keep in mind donald trump was the person 1st president ever joined a prolife march in washington so this still plays an important wrote. From the people when youve been talking to at the bar what have people told you that they are going to be looking out for in the debate aside from and and question. Well tonight they probably will really see. How. Come on the hair is kind of positions her in these rather more conservative issues because i mean they are also swing voters on the more republican side or lets say on the more. Conservative sides and given the fact how dont trump handled the cold with 19 crisis how the economy is going down and how many 1000000 people see here in the United States are suffering they have lost their jobs some of them are losing their homes so i think some of the rather conservative voters who watch her very very closely mike pence in that regard has it easier he just has to do to deliver and has to kind of prove that you still is the mike tends. To be used to be since many many years we were just seeing pictures in there of a Salt Lake City where the debates going to be taking place but you know i also wanted to ask you more about the issue of abortion particularly in this president ial cycle because its always a flashpoint in the United States and a hot topic but its really taken it more of a center stage in a 2020 why would you say that is. Well because this is kind of a safe ground for donald trump. You know he needs to keep at least like the hard core support of him as everything is shifting and not looking so good for him so hes reaching out to those then he is then hes reaching out to throw those to those voters who just one another Supreme Court justice implemented from donald trump so these are 2 very very important issues for this sitting president s. All right you know as a poll in a cincinnati we will be coming back to you a way that reaction after that debate. Well there you see it the stage where comma harris and Vice President mike pence will be having their Vice President ial debate any moment now theyll be the 1st and the only Vice President ial debate we know of that the moderator will be susan page who is the Washington Bureau chief of usa to
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