Vice president how milton were our welcome to conflict zone a few months ago you told journalists everythings under control we just dont know whos just how bad is the chaos in your administration. However saying its ok in our administration that was a kind of a joke that i used to say ok it was not very straight for war war that i put it was a joke ali a joke because here in brazil everything is ok. What sort of joke was it you had 2 Health Ministers who were gone in the space of a single month during a Health Emergency and Justice Minister resigned and Education Minister however is off to the us just days after stepping down from the job saying i dont want to fight leave me alone dont provoke me isnt that enough chaos for you now it is not things that happen in any government ok the way that theyre due cation minister went out well it was not a big problem for us ok and you know brazil is a very different country and well some things that happen here that happen in other countries its our culture so why did you write an op ed may the 14th you said no country in the world has inflicted more harm on itself than brazil and you warned that institutional damage was driving the country into chaos you were the one who mentioned the chaos and drew attention to it you said weve become incapable of the essentials in facing any problem sitting at the table talking and debating that was a powerful indictment of your own administration wasnt it because your leaders like you who are supposed to unify your country. Well the country is suffering what happens all around the war there isnt an excess of of true believers and politico the political sides all d ferdie that see pull our eyes i did a lot of polarization in politics but. Our administration is running the country well and so far as to day things are Getting Better and the relationship between the different powers are getting each day better and better so we had some difficult times some months ago but now everythings ok really and added to that the president his family and several associates are kneedeep in criminal and legislative investigations is that ok to. This question it is still under investigation and of course its than the hands of the judiciary system and we have to wait for. Us to get it sent. By warning about all this chaos as you did last may were you preparing for the military to intervene and start to dealing with the chaos in june the president openly floated the idea of military intervention saying the armed forces would not accept absurd decisions by the Supreme Court of congress is not was not a threat. Thats not a thats not true 1st of all them and force are aligned with their constitutional mission and they are not stepping out of the it syncs here in brazil. Are going to use moose and well and where we have to make it very clear that democracy is a value of not only for mr bozo not his government but us to our am and forced to so there is no any anywhere and there is no threat to the Supreme Court or of the jews that have system here in brazil and the fact that he attended rallies outside military bases when his supporters called for an armed intervention to get rid of governors judges and lawmakers who imposed lockdowns in response to the pandemic no threat there either i suppose well the question of the pandemic people have to understand that brazil its a very unequal country where were unequal socially economically and of course geographically so since the beginning of depend emic it weve been trying to deal with their health for we stay economic curve and we have this curve thats the way that mr bowser not a government dealt with this pandemic well he attended rallies which called for an armed intervention didnt he to get rid of governors judges and lawmakers whats that if not a threat to democracy you want to play i was thus is not a threat to democracy well the governor of south paulo thought it was good. The governor of south paolo said brazil i said wakes up every day afraid of aggression to democracy to the constitution to the congress to the Supreme Court president both scenario he said stop this endless aggression. This is happens because there is polarization in politics the government of some paulo opposed to mr bush on out of this is much more talk down there that say action when you see angels heres the happens its a new way to people behave. Not dangerous its dangerous to have power to do what you mean but nobody has the power to do what they mean we swards here in brazil plenty of people seem to think youre doing politics through fear these days eduardo cost of pinto from the federal university of rio he says this is the problem of having a government filled with military personnel during an institutional crisis the military will fight tooth and nail to stay in power and they have guns which makes political mediation difficult why fill the government with all these military personnel if youre not planning on the military taking over power 1st of all its got to be very clear that we are not a military government mr bowser not in ny where elected by more than 57000000 brazilians ok and of course we have some people into gaza that come from the military but they are here sinking for the good of brazil and respecting our constitution and our loss the federal audit cordys are investigating what it calls the excessive presence of the military and Civil Public Service and it is excessive isnt it the court said in june there were as many as 3000 military personnel in government jobs what do you need 3000 of the military in government jobs for. Well 1st of all its have to be very clear that any government in brazil has more din 2000 military in government jobs because we have a security cabinet that belongs to that a president that has more than 1000 military people and envious count of military people are those who work at the Defense Ministry so we dont have such a huge number of military people by. Simple jobs in our government that some kind of there is information that came through some different channels and are all these military personnel qualified to do the jobs theyre doing im thinking of the Current Health minister as well oh hes an active duty general who followed orders from the president is that his only qualification he doesnt know anything about health or drugs does he well you dont need to be a doctor to be the house minister why do you need to be its mandible understands the Public Administration and more that you dont mocked up with secular option and of course mr punch will loads are not about logistics that was the main problem in our house minister and he knows how to a baby orders more than the other Health Ministers does he mean those to do as hes told thats his main qualification is it well he has the qualifications and he has been do we have very good job and this has been that tested about all their secretaries of the different states here in brazil they are all very pleased that we stayed job that mr puzzle has been doing because all the necessary support for it to fight in control depend them has reach it every point in our car and our country. Mr Vice President mr paulson r. O. Has never hidden his admiration for brazils former military dictatorship do you share that admiration well we had a period of a military presence that lasted about 20 years they had they did a very good sings for brazil another sings they didnt go so well and this is history and history can only be judge it. Time pass we are still some 50 years away from that period we need some more 50 years so that the spirit can be judged well well during the vote to impeach former president Dilma Rousseff mr ball so not a dedicated his ballot to one of the regimes most notorious torturers this man was convicted of torture during the 21 years of military dictatorship last year your president called him a National Hero 502 cases of torture were identified in the unit he ran you have nice heroes in your administration these days dont you. First of all we have done we dont agree we started torturers is not. A politics that our country simpatico to it and of course when there is a lot of people that fought the euro but guerrillas judy in the late sixtys and beginning of the 7th of last century and many of these people have been wrongly accused of being torturers so colonel Carlos Alberto was wrongly accused the new also think of him as a hero do you despite the cases the 500 cases of torture which were attributed to his unit. What i can tell you about a man Carlos Alberto brilliant used to he was my Commanding Officer in the late seventys of their last century and he was a man on or and a man who respect the human rights of his subordinates so bent of sings that people tell about him i can tell you because i had a very close friendship with this man thats not true so he was wrongly convicted then of torture was a it was all made up while the trial was fixed 1st of all. Im not aligned with stuart and of course many people are still alive from that period and all and all of them want to put sings in the way that they saw thats why i told you before that we have to wait for all these sectors to disappear so debt history can make its part and of course what really happened during that period that pure come through well given that you and your president are not prepared to condemn the torture is only torture can you not understand why so many people in brazil and internationally doubts your commitment your administrations commitment to democracy and you understand that well democracy its one of a national of our National Chairman and objectives we dont see brazil out of democracy our Main Objective today is make of brazil the most britain democracy in the 1000. Really and with people like al gusto hell a no minister of Institutional Security another retired general hes on record as saying he believes its up to the military to put this house in order this house meaning brazil another threat you have all these people who are prepared to make threats but you say there really isnt a threat im confused mr Vice President gore. Like i like ive been telling you this makes parts of the discussion that we have the polarization in politics ok its must really wards then actions because you want name one single action from mr bozo not a government that was a real real real scratch to democracy here in brazil but words matter in politics dont they you play its all down but even the Supreme Courts chief justice d. A. s tough only warned in june about the president s dubiousness about democracy he said dubiously thats not a great characteristic for a democratic leader is it hes dubious about democracy. I think there is no way to sink. Get there is that some dubious of feelings of the mr bowser nodded to democracy including last saturday for instance mr bowser not and mr taft fully aware if thing together in a dinner so if mr copley had any doubt about the way mr bowles on how to behave they would not be together in the heat in their house in his house back apart but that. Your former Justice Minister sergio morrow accused the president of interfering in an investigation into his family basically attempting to obstruct justice this is a highly damaging allegation from a minister who used to be well liked and respected by mr bowles and wasnt it well mr morell may dislike you say chanst views are being investigated through their Supreme Court we are waiting for this investigation to come through ok of course we have to wait for dead it is process to end i myself. Will walk im side by side with president bush for not admitting all this time and i can tell you that he did not interfere in the federal police to do work a defender of police so that he could help some of his sons that are being accused of some wrongdoings how do you know he didnt did he tell you that he didnt have i know that well well ive been with mr bozo not. To tell us and weve been working closely together and i can tell you he is not interfering in the work of the federal police a federal police is doing our job they are investigating all the skates and our system is investigating the problems that one of his sons has so i see that this process is going their way all process go here in brazil. Mr Vice President how important is truth in your administration lets take the issue of deforestation and the fires this year in the amazon august the 10th you said government agents were executing urgent measures to contain deforestation and fires a day later president both an ira said the exact opposite you wont find any spot of far he said nor a quarter of a head deforested the report that the amazon is burning is a lie in fact it was his statement that was the lie wasnt it because the amazon was clearly burning at that point well i dont and i what happens and weve been working very hard to stop any illegal deforestation and illegal fire that happened in the amazon what has been clear is the forestation has been increasing since to tell us and 12 accelerate the last year since that 2nd half of this month of june last june deforestation has been decreasing so their work is beginning to pay now and of course we still have the problem of the fires we are in the dry season that i see is one year to year is beginning to be very bigger and bigger and of course we have to have more resourceful have to put more a source in the fight to hand against the legalese that happens in the amazon area yeah but when mr bowen so narrow august 11th said there is no fire the report that the amazon is burning is a lie that itself was a lie wasnt true was it simply wasnt true so by lying about these things what happened. What happens in the amazon for the question of fires its very clear we a lot of people we have some more than 500000 farmers in the amazon area and some 5 percent of them know about some 25000 farmers they work their fields with fire and thats why our thats a very. System to work the field so we have to make them we stop this so debt. Dont grow year to year the fact is these are the worst 5 in a decade down day in september you know satellites recorded more than 32000 hotspots in the rain forest 61 percent rise over the same month last year and in both september and the oldest when you would tell the president was telling us there were no 5 the blaze matched all suppose last years single months high so the science director for your Amazon Environmental Research institute said we have had 2 months with a lot of fun its already worse than last year satellites can see it why do you deny its worse than last year now we dont deny it we dont deny anything ok september of 20 has been a war since september last year but like i told you before some 70 percent of these fires are raging atheist that have been over read it before has been many many many years ago that are occupied by farmers only one search of them are happening that they wouldnt do should not to happen and we a fight and then since the beginning of their day a green brazil 2 appreciation that we lounge and since the months of may where we stopped at some 6000 points of fire so we have been doing our jobs youve been doing your jobs but. Not very effective. Vly it seems according to reports on the ground is the fires are that bad and there are still 32000. 00 the hot spots in the rain forest the 61 percent rise over the same month last year thats not very effective is it well like i told you this season is very dry so its a moment that fire happens and of course you say 32000 hot spots 32 does the hot spots in 185 median square kilometers i think you are can agree with me thats not so huge are people watch telly around the wood ok because the amazon is very huge so whats been passing through all around there were that the whole amazon is in fire and thats not happened there fires happen like i told you in ages that have been already before asked that since many many years ago mr Vice President the accusation from human Rights Groups is that your ministration has deliberately undermined the efforts by your own federal agents to stop deforestation Human Rights Watch says that while federal authorities impose thousands of fines for illegal deforestation a president ial decree has allowed most of them to go on paid whats the point of doing that no we dont comply weve seen the galaxies in the amazon for instance our. Environmental legislation say that any property in the amazon can export 20 percent of it sadia they order 80 percent has to be preserved but if you let we will be edging away with not paying fines you let people get away without paying fines why almost everyone gets away with not paying well lines well. So if people dont pay fines that theyve begun pay they fight defiance their land that they have is going to be arrested but so far as today we have a problem of regulation of the land tenure we need to regulate these this is a big problem that we still have in brazil ok. We are dealing with this in the National Council that im the head of the council and thats one of my Main Objectives ive been working together we say our culture minister so death we can go ahead with this because its very important that we solve this problem because only repression against people who are making a sings wrong it will not and they legalities we need to advance with their land can you regulation but why should these criminal groups involved in deforestation stop when the when your penalties are taken away and theyre not even obliged to pay fines means everyone gets away with it with no penalties which is exactly what you wanted a mr ball scenario made no secret of his intentions he openly attacked his own environmental agencies which he called industries of fines and promise to end their festival of sanctions so he made it quite clear that he wanted to take away the sanctions take away the punishment and let all the illegal logging go ahead he was quite clear about that. As to both of those spoke about that when who as a candidate and a candidate you know it speaks about a lot of scenes oh i was there it wasnt true it wasnt true that is. All the reports are going to be around say thats exactly what hes done we put in some 300000000. 00 in fines thats a lot of money ok so our environmental agents they have the freedom to do their job they are putting fines on everybody that are doing illegalities well thats not the reports coming from the ground mr Vice President final word on the pandemic when it comes to the corona virus you have around 4700000 confirmed cases the 3rd highest in the world after the u. S. And india more cases than all of europe not a great record is it well all like i told you before brazil has a lot of when equalities ok we are not an equal country we have problems and assertion and economic and then job you know of course we have our jobs to feed here in brazil so we try to fight the best way possible we regret most 150000 brazilians that we lost their lives but we have cured more than 4000000 people here in brazil so why i think that despite this number of cases and number of deaths we dealt very good with to spend democrat us how much how much use wasnt for the president to call it just a measly code and say to people i think almost all of you will catch it one day what are you afraid of about being afraid of dying or having how Long Term Health problems or blood clots not much he has not much sympathy for his people have seen. Of course we prepare i wouldnt is has been always concerned about the people the president since the beginning of the pandemic said it very clear we have to take care of their health and we have to take care of the economy because we know that a lot of people you brazil they well they have very difficult to wear and their money because we are not we live in a period of a crisis that we dont have jobs for everybody people are leaving one formal way and from night to day just people lost any chance to have some kind of revenue so the president who knows the Common People knew that about all right Vice President how will tomorrow thank you very much for being on conflict thank you. Of of of of. Of of of. Give. Of. Good. It. 2020 u. S. 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