Transcripts For DW The Day 20240712

Lives and brylin this is the day. Im absolutely delighted that today we can announce the fust successful Clinical Trial for treatment full of it 19 ok out it can help to one contacts of infected persons faster than was previously possible michelle and youll see it im a bit worried very worried i dont know what the situation will be like in future as we dont have much information that find out that. Even in countries that have demonstrated the ability to suppress transmission country smushed stay with the possibility the surgeons. Also coming up u. S. President trump says hes cutting u. S. Troop numbers in germany because germany refuses to pay more for defense tonight in case of a president cutting his nose to spite his face germany as you know is very delinquent in their. Payments to nato so were protecting germany and it illiquid that doesnt make sense. To our viewers on p. B. S. In the United States and all around the world welcome we begin the day with what looks like a made. A breakthrough in treating cohabit 19 and it comes not a moment too soon researchers at oxford in the u. K. Say the low cost steroids dexa methods could be the difference between life and death for people infected with the coronavirus in a major study the steroids reduced deaths by 30 percent in patients on ventilators and by 20 percent in patients receiving oxygen decks and methods own it was developed more than 50 years ago it is widely available and as a generic drug which means the cost is minimal when news of the lifesaving treatment comes as the pandemic continues to spread across the globe the number of new infections is increasing faster than ever before 100000 new cases are reported daily some of those new cases are in china where the pandemic began half a year ago and for the past 2 months there have been no new cases reported in china but now in beijing a new outbreak has set off alarms beijing authorities have closed all schools and they are urging people not to leave the city there have been dozens of new cases in recent days this latest outbreak has been linked to a host self foods market. Well it was have a year ago when china suddenly became the epicenter of the new corona Virus Outbreak since then the virus has spread across the globe and the epicenter has shifted with it from china to italy and to the United States and now the World Health Organization is warning that the viral hotspot has moved yet again this time to central and south america we have fast approaching 4000000 and the epidemic is not only in their reach or we have not seen transmission. Thats the case is almost all countries thats in america and if you will in the comment then our icing on my 1st guest tonight is an Infectious Diseases physician and scientists issac bug off stories me from toronto in canada dr but gosh its good to have you on the day so were looking at the steroids that weve used for half a century that could be the difference between life and death for coated 19 patients would you say this is the Biggest Development weve seen since the pandemic began certainly if it pans out and if the data that theyre reporting does is accurate reproducible it would certainly be a major Major Development in the treatment of hospitalized patients with copd 19 infections we only have a press release we actually dont have access to the data were going to be were still waiting for that peer reviewed. Publication to come out in a in a medical journal and when that does you can be sure that the medical and Scientific Community will pore over that to look at the strengths the benefits the weakness of the 30 and figure out how we integrate that into our routine clinical practice what we would do we know exactly how this stair would works and we know that steroids helps to reduce inflammation in the body how does that work then to fight against 19. Yes certainly if this does pan out of it this truly does reduce mortality in hospital eyes patients it would probably work by a couple of mechanisms number one as you point out is probably reduces the significant inflammatory response that occurs in the longer than probably elsewhere in the body with coping 19 infection the 2nd thing they can do is really dampen down the bodys immunologic response to the virus and we know that some people just have a very vigorous immune response to the affection and that can often set off a cascade that could be rather damaging to the body so it might work through both of those mechanisms you mentioned the immune system dr bogan is this steroids been better for older people who have severe coded 1000 because we know that older peoples immune systems tend to be more sluggish and they dont react the same way as a Young Persons would. Yeah im fortunately we just dont know it really we dont know a lot about this trial we only know basically how the trial was conducted and that we have early evidence of a mortality benefit but we really need to see the data and really pour over the data more closely that the you know who has enrolled how the trial was actually conducted look at there are the typical analyses to really have a much better understanding a more granular perspective of what this means and how we can integrate it into a clinical practice but you know at the surface if were talking about reducing mortality by about one 3rd of people who have a breathing tube and by about 20 percent of people who are just on the hospital ward but require supplemental oxygen then clearly this would be a significant help to the many of us who are on the frontline working on coping 90 and its certainly good to be able to report positive news in this pandemic for a change dr isaac book unfashionably this position dr because we appreciate your time and your insights tonight thank you. Thanks. Were germany has launched its official Smartphone App to fight the spread of the virus the technology can send warnings to users if theyve been in close contact with anyone who has been confirmed to have the virus the coded app uses Bluetooth Technology to determine which other smartphones are in the vicinity of a person and for how long if an app user with coronavirus comes near you for a certain amount of time that app since your app a warning message no data is exchanged and the data about it remains stored on your smartphone. Or germany is not the 1st country to see technology this way in the mobile phone as a way to keep the coronavirus in check its still too early to say if the apps are affected against the pandemic but there are concerns that the cost in terms of privacy could be too high take a look here in china as the Coronavirus Spread the government set out to fight it with the help of a Smartphone App launched in february the early play Health Code App was the 1st attempt to slow the transmission rate of covert 19 by tracking infected people digitally using information from their smartphones. The app analyzes personal data to assign a color code that either grants users access to or bars them from buses trains and public spaces. South korea launched its own Contact Tracing Program Shortly after china requiring all International Visitors to download a tracing app at the airport but the countrys effort to monitor the virus doesnt rely on this app alone the south Korean Health authority also tracks infected people using surveillance cameras and credit card information. Singapore led the way in creating an app that can monitor the spread of the virus without government surveillance the countrys app trace together uses encrypted anonymous data to alert those who have come in contact with infected people australia has launched its own app based on the trace together protocol. In europe france italy and germany launched coronavirus tracing apps this month prioritizing privacy the italian and german apps use a decentralized approach they dont store users information on a server but rather on the users phones the french stop covert app however is centralized it does store data on government run servers but says the data is deleted after 14 days. The u. K. Is preparing to launch an app similar to the french model later this month. The European Commission has called for a common tracing technology across the e. U. But so far member countries have been going it alone. For my next guest tonight is dennis can she kept a specialist in i. T. Security law he is a board member at the European Academy for freedom and information and Data Protection he joins us tonight from the german city of braman its good to have you on the show let me ask you have you already dealt loaded this app. Yes at the moment only for formation testing purposes but this might change in the next week and ive tried to do that as well but i understand if your i if you have an i phone in your i tunes connection is not with the german i tunes store then you cant download is that true. Yes there are especially some problems and the 2nd question is you have to update the newest version of your i o. S. Ok so a couple blockades there lets talk about to the at being voluntary i read today that about 60 percent of germans would have to download this app to effectively trace and track infections do you think this app should be mandatory. And my idea the question is here how does. This state check and sanction this if that would be mandatory so this normally would require access to every smartphone then we would be in a surveillance state of course and no one wants that and i thought it was also have would be violation of the constitution in this case we know that the German Government said that it needed extra time to roll out this app because it wanted to make sure that the app meets the countrys high data privacy standards tell me what do you say does it meet those standards. Yes generally spoken i would say that this meets the standards this basically is the reason because. Thats not process any personal data at all of the normal case that the european and german Data Protection law does not even apply for you cases of if you. There is an opinion poll that just came al that shows less than half of the people in germany now are willing to use this app in april more than half are willing now less than half are willing. To how do you explain that in our people right to be concerned that the app could be used to basically keep track of their movements i know that there are some concerns about that but at the moment there is not really a situation to be concerned because yet this just one Building Block to fight against a pen demick and compared to the situation that we had 2 or 3 months ago is a situation that changes now that acute anymore now and if thats 1050 percent of germans would download the app and my opinion this would already be a Great Success ok we know that the German Government says that the data is anonymous you only stored on your smartphone let me ask you though as an id security expert you know that systems can be compromised right yeah you cannot be 100 percent sure that a system cannot be compromised as a suspect yes ok well lets hope that that doesnt happen dennis joining us tonight to talk about this new warning app here in germany to help stop the spread of the corona virus dennis came to thank you youre welcome good night. Present trump and i discussed this issue during a phone call last week and my message will start to the u. S. Presence in europe its good for europe but its also good for north america and United States the United States and the president has announced what they have announced. But it remains but its not yet decided how and when. This decision will be implemented now is nato secretary general you dont bag doing what he has done numerous times since donald trump moved into the white house trying to put a positive spin on the plans of the u. S. President that could be anything but positive for nato President Trump has ordered the pentagon to reduce the number of u. S. Troops stationed here in germany from 35000 to no more than 25000 trump says its not right for germany to enjoy u. S. Military protection and at the same time not increase its own defense spending will this hurt nato and German Security or will this move hurt the u. S. Most of all. For 70 years tens of thousands of american troops have been stationed in germany for europe their presence at bases like spangdahlem a guarantor of peace for the us and expression of its military might. On monday donald trump confirmed he would be withdrawing almost 10000. 00 of them blaming bear lens failure to meet its 2 percent need to defense spending commitments but he wrongly said it was indebted to the military alliance so germanys delinquent theyve been delinquent for years and they owe nato billions of dollars and they have to pay it so were protecting germany and delinquent that doesnt make sense but the u. S. Military presence in germany was a reginald a boo work against the soviet threat during the cold war and continues to be a deterrent against potential russian aggression trump decision threatens to further strain the relationship between the 2 allies. Germany since its serenity since 1900 is a very Strong Partner and we would like to be handled also even and that with the United States this is not the way you treat your close partners. U. S. President s have long called for germany to increase defense spending but some suspect the latest decision is a reaction to german chancellor Angela Merkel for fusion to attend the g. 7 summit that was to be hosted by the us president later this month donald trump seems to see. Not anybody else as his systemic rival. Therefore the impersonality does matter is this is also part of the neo isolationist policy so its less about the individuals or the. Individuals to matter it is a new self definition of what the American Interest seems to be its not clear if trump will be able to push through the troop withdrawal which faces stiff opposition in Congress Even members of his own party opposed the plan or more now im joined by col of story cesc mr george test who knows both worlds of diplomacy and security he was a stony as ambassador to the u. S. And the scene and he spent part of his career at the Estonian Ministry of defense hes now with the International Center for defense and security and he joins me tonight from the estonian capital tallied mr choice its good to have you on the day you are in a stone a small baltic country your next door neighbor is russia now when we talk about a reduction in u. S. Troops in germany who security is weakened more by that germanys or a stone leans. Leading i think that. Trumps this if it will be fully implemented it will certainly increase the security of nato in general but secularly the Baltic States and poland who are on the front line but also that germany so the implications of trumps plan are. Severe in terms of political terms and in military terms 1st of all it came out as a surprise because the pentagon has. Been a scheme that the preparations started already in september last year but no one was informed not even germany as the host country and this severe cuts of American Forces in germany and was not discussed either at the nato h. Q. In brussels so this is a very bad political signal a new crack in the alliance and im sure russia has detected this and will readily exploit it on the other hand if the numbers of u. S. Troops in germany are are diminished by about 30 percent that means that the weak reinforcements that the Baltic States and poland have to count on in case of a crisis are not there and and perhaps lets say a 1000 or 2000 troops from germany could be redeployed to poland eventually that is one option perhaps in the future and that might seem to suggest that the defense of the Baltic States and poland will improve but this is really not mr story because i mean let me if i could just interrupt to me what youre saying. Here is if this troop reduction does take place your country you know the baltic countries your security is going to be endangered by this are you and your defense people are you going to nato are you going to washington to the white house or are you sounding the alarm and saying hey europe you know youre turning us into the future victims of a russian invasion well actually even our own minister of defense he gave an interview today you know rick and he clearly said that we are very ashes about this this isnt by president shop we dont know if it will be lamented or if it will be implemented its only. There are only 4 and a half months until the u. S. President ial election we dont know who will be the next president and even if president tom and in use for another 4 years perhaps we we may see a repetition of the syrian scenario there to president chomped promise to bring back to the u. S. All the american troops from syria to bring them all back but as we see we are partly there they didnt let syria so in the same fashion it could be so that trump ordered that about 10000. 00 troops would be pulled out from germany but in reality only a few would be actually moved back to the states and some to poland maybe and then in that as he may claim politically that his decision has been implemented where the damage would be limited yeah well we will have to see it as you say there are only a few months until that president ial election in the u. S. And that election could change everything we will see mr call the story chester we appreciate your insights tonight thank you. Well its been a football season like no other into germanys bonus league or halted for more than 2 months because of the coronavirus and now games are being played in empty stadiums but one thing it seems. Just as the folks in bavaria byron munich always wins the variance are champions for the 8th time in a row after defeating very brave men just before the break you see robert love adele scheme put by in a head which was all they needed to secure the wooden leg and else he was having a career year also leads the league in goals by urine have now won a record 31 this league title. It is stadiums theres more action here at the big table with Chris Harrington sure that he did this thing despite wrapping up their 8th straight title here by n cs and it really wasnt that great was it a brit you know byron munich did not coast to the title they spent a handful of weeks looking up at their rivals in november frankfurt hurt them badly in the nico kovacs had to go sadly out of nowhere a hottie flick suited became the man starting off better than any buying coast before hand despite taking a few blows byron had more highs and lows live in dos he led the league in a career year thomas moved his assist numbers left defenders in fear rising star Alfonso Davis remember the name his speed left the opposition feeling shame this season was a roller coaster ride for sure showing the s. And downs buyer could endure the question remains how many will buy and win in a row 91011 brett you know and really you know its great it shows you the power of a pandemic when youre buying the unity right yes so what does the future hold then for biron and ponzi flick well the flick you know they were searching for a coach in a replacement hodgy flick definitely proved he fits the bill when you look at the numbers that hes pulled off he started better than any other bank notes up. We have a graphic we can take a look at you know 90 percent winning percentage that says it all that outdoes names like Pep Guardiola you know how is he is a players coach the players in 11 he gets the best out of his players and clearly they have their sights set on not only completing the double digits leverkusen the german cup but a potential trouble to win the Champions League you know they are in a transitional phase right now but under that leadership you know who knows how much they can accomplish chris talk to me what does it do to the players you know we saw images from the game tonight i mean you cant see it really there but you know there are no there no spectators theres no one watching the game there next to the pitch but what does it do then to to the game and its bittersweet of course you know there are some teams that have you know hired the services of sports psychologists is just to deal with the absence you know of that reaction if you know from your fan base of course its a bit sour you know not that the fans you know but theyre on autopilot and the players do this regardless and im sure theyll be very active on social media in any way they can to celebrate with their loyal fan base but of course you know this is the new norm we have to deal with yeah one is theyre getting paid im sure they are willing to deal with those in the stands right Chris Harrington its always chris thank you very much ok are the days almost done the conversation it continues online join us on twitter either you w. 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