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Of certain insecticides something bear was keen to hush up they wanted to keep it secret they didnt want to publicize something which would be damaging for the company of a deer the city by the end was to stop the debate so they could carry on making money that was. Decent sector science known as mere niggas who arent have earned billions for the company a case of placing earnings of about ethics or gimmick by not known what isnt normal is breaking the laws concealing facts your guess should you shores up. How influential is the bay of group and to the authorities failed to exercise proper oversight. Blith. In southwest germany is a fertile region and hand to plenty of canola and corn fields because of carr who runs a bee farm here. Hes passionate about what he does his bills are like part of a family. It really experienced any problems with pesticides until one spring day 12 years ago. And you passed had appeared in the rhine valley and was threatening to devastate the corn fields to save the harvest the authorities allowed the large scale use of me or nicotine or eat on me and next as they are also now. For me out there i could see the farmer sowing his corn and from one moment to the next stop flying it was perfect weather the bees were out origin everything was wonderful but as the farmer sowed his seed everything stopped although these in their disappeared. Insecticide the seeds had been treated with resulted in a toxic dust cloud that killed 12000 b. Colonies in the region more than 500000000 being suffered an agonizing death. Thought the best way worst of been of a hit was the world our worst case of be poisoning by legal means since be conservation began it was very frustrating and very emotional. It really got me down but. It was about so it got so bad that i couldnt drive over to the beehives anymore every time i got near i was met by the stench of decomposing bees i just couldnt handle it anymore like stick it could. During planting some of the red pesticide coating the corn seeds rubbed off and was released into the environment. Just what it was a whats that that was sown this in the mice yes or corn seed stress with insecticide it beyond of the mice or cured with all what happened i think this is to order you see this red dust thats insecticide residue that is rubbed off the seeds and it was released into the air during plantation in the orbital gulf and stopped in the bees died instantly so what types of what if you look in of the that were those that passed through the dust cloud yes. But the worst of it was that the dust settled on flowering plants so the remaining bee is then gathered contaminated pollen i mean you know the pull of the summer at home. Rather than being sprayed on to crops like traditional pesticides in an example of an applied in the form of a sea dressing the seed coated with insecticide is then drilled into the ground using a seed plant or the toxins are affected from the root to the entire plant as it grows making it i mean to pests both in the ground and the field. Stage about burton bergen investigated what had gone wrong and what i scar to the computers amazement plane was placed on the mechanical feet planted as. The Agriculture Ministry echoed bears official line saying that had the seeds been sewn correctly everything would have been fine clinics were nevertheless banned for use on call in germany theyre still committed for other crops they offer 2200000 euros in fast track aid but only on one condition for the beekeepers. In return i shall seed all existing and future claims to compensation to the state or bottom of your to. The investigation the government has gotten gotten back had suddenly become a mediation the offer from bail was actually made by the Agriculture Department is learned by the river bank or no bay or state of bottom but they wanted to buy their way out of. It was touted as an emergency aid for the beekeepers because of what they were just covering themselves so there was a real push to settle the matter quickly where they knew the bees had been poisoned otherwise it would have taken a lot longer to get the money to fish that like so many of the beekeepers accepted the compensation and bear was left to learn the ban on the negative noise and corn wasnt a problem as they were still approved for many other crops between 19022017 around 3700 tonnes of the agent was sold in germany alone and they and other manufacturers like syngenta supplied various near nicotine though its to more than 100. 00 countries billions of euros scientists accuse the producers of making money at the expense of the environment. Because studies show that me and they get to know its actually impact entire ecosystem. Dutch toxicologists 1010 because it has spent years studying the substances sold by Companies Like they are. He believes near negative no into the most toxic insecticide ever produced when a 10 against at a clinic in the never. And even though he was undergoing treatment from the man you know when we saw him late last year he agreed to speak to us. You name it. Seems vasilios get annoyed or water soluble and relatively mobile in the ground with this sort of injury or neutered. So when it rains they are easily washed into the ground water and runoff water. Zomi for by disease this means they affect the whole environment and are also absorbed by wild flowers and plants via their roots. When does. The entire landscape becomes toxic for insects. Theres a group of them so its fair to assume that this will result in mass insect deaths were going to inject and if the insect disappear the ecosystem collapses. Thats why this is an ecological armageddon we are destroying the whole of nature. And tenet has believed that ne annex are the main cause of insect deaths around the world and that via the food chain theyre also responsible for the decline in the population of birds reptiles and amphibians and theres evidence that the harmful to humans too. So why are these insecticide still being sold. In 2018 the European Union did at least ban 3 of the 5 near naked to no its because of the threat to beings but france had already banned one products containing the toxins back in 1909 it took 19 years for the e. U. To catch up so why did the french authorities act so much earlier. And paris we need scientists john mark from a town and a beekeeper only from whom. They have instigate the 1900 band. At the time be he was very experiencing mysterious dialysis but my time proved that the new nigga to know its produced by there were to blame. When the results were made public and the b. G. Was protested the company was swift to respond. Very quickly or started to exert pressure to get us to keep quiet in our example what they didnt want to be keepers causing problems the book in more tentative and they are sued for libel. I dont produce honey from sunflowers or canola and i was acting in my capacity as head of the National Union of hours. But they sent me as a private individual and i got your lawyer defended us and we wonder and bear chose not to appeal the ruling but i wasnt the only one here. Scientists also came under pressure the aim was to stop the debate so they can carry on making money when young people sentiments but the french government was also alone by the mass speed deaths and had commissioned a study thats what you would still do you think before we even started our research will bear began using the Agriculture Ministry to try to impose its methods and threshold values on us so that wasnt a good start if you look at then when we got our results they came into the lab to check my analysis and find any errors they were desperate to find a mistake people told me but i hadnt made any and because we had proven that a toxin that penetrate even the blossoms of the plant you know they were forced to accept our results when i later i mentioned the pressure exerted by bayer to the french media that i can receive 2 letters from a beer lawyer one addressed to me personally and one to the head of my institute yet i didnt feel they wanted to use their influence to force me to keep my mouth shut if they expected me a scientist to hide my results in order to protect their sales. But yes it was legal best it easy but that wasnt his 1st brush with. Works for one of the Top Research Institutions in france it was back in the mid 1990 s. That he was commissioned by the french Agriculture Ministry to investigate the mass the deaths. Suspicion had for an army or nigga to know it 1st made by bayer called i made a cloak print. Says that at the request of the regional agricultural thirtys they employees were actively involved in the 1st study. Of mad people but i believe its normal for a company like bayer to be informed if one of its products is being investigated anymore so fake. Hold your bosky to their feet but what absolutely isnt normal is when representatives of that Company Whose product is being assessed are not all of them determining details of the approach to be taken including the financing and even the publication of the final results youll bucky heap and a headache sure division. There was certainly a lot of money at stake for bear the investigation began. These were sent on the one hand to fields of sunflowers treated with me only get annoyance on the other 2 untreated fields for control purposes at least thats what drama rama time and his colleagues were told. They were only supposed to analyze the fields containing the bayer pesticides but later they realized that the control field was also contaminated with insecticides or knew some blood they called the junkyard unit we scientists complained when we realized that the control fields have been treated with fungus eyes and other insecticides have a good for hugh that they dont think he did it just isnt normal for an experiment of this loving all thats all the kitty ringback. Even a good bit of Management Committee for the study ignored or complaints by the new it called the your theres a good beat it beat it out of seeking a levy instead the results of this comparative study which we now know were worthless were taken as proof that a medical oprah is harmless for bees could you eat what is a big. Suddenly they as insecticides appeared beyond suspicion any possibility of a ban have been dismissed for now at least. But dont want time and his colleagues at the institute then carried out their own study on behalf of the beekeepers this time but it was not involved and the results were staggering. Level them all clear about the street to give it you were able to prove that everything relevant to the beyond is a big whether it was the corn the sunflowers the blow all of the nectar water who came at you everything was. Im unable to i mean yeah he only could you know even if you look within the levels of toxins in the open countryside were so high that they were sufficient to either kill the b. S. Or at least cause grave long term problem is to collar she said. In 1909 france then banned the use of nigga to know its but initially only for some plants that wasnt enough for the beekeepers. They wanted a blanket ban on all nearly get to know its so high the services of a paris lawyer but not before. He took up the case against bayer and other manufacturers. Eventually it went to the consent of town ranters highest court for administrative cases in full realize the companies had exploited weaknesses in the licensing systems to get their products on the Market League system dogma modest european directives refer to whats known as the hazard quotient. This quotient is exceeded the manufacturer is obliged to carry out a field experiment under realistic conditions to prove that the product is not harmful. Did you know. That your head that we discovered that this control experiment which was obligatory in order to gain approval it never took place. If the tests had been carried out as european regulations dictated these products would never have been authorized and i read it if it that way its in part thanks to ben no forced persistence that france became the 1st country in the world to ban the use of all near nicotine or its in 2018. In germany meanwhile continue to earn wealth from the insecticides next were used on many different products as a panacea for all pests. The discoveries in france didnt appear to bother the German Authorities even though beekeepers here complained of heavy losses but a hate figure was until recently president of the European Beekeepers Association he told us of his organizations relief when germany finally announced a study on the decline in b. Population but the relief was short lived just thought we realized that the initiative only began once the threat was perceived of germany having to adopt the same stance as france. There was clearly great concern that the insecticides could be banned here too. Was the industry looking to preempt that move. It would appear that that was the reason why bayh and another next maker syngenta took part in the study other hayflick i soon realized something was very wrong you dont see our jobs yeah thats what every year there was an annual report and every year the findings would go through the media. The role i might which causes honeybee deaths is really terrible. But we found no crabs with pesticides and its perfect it was like a Public Relations coup for them im obviously we became increasingly critical of how the whole project was structured with the methods they were using and they wouldnt have found any link between pesticides and honeybee deaths anyway countries that were not dobby other manics have nothing to do with the mass being deaths that was the apparent finding that the find Public Opinion right up until the disaster in prescott in 2008 the industry had put huff a 1000000 euros into the be monitoring project womens safety for not doing this project when you look at how the project was financed its pretty obvious im the one who pays the piper calls the 2 minute warning the german be monitoring project was financed almost entirely by the insecticide makers. The Beekeepers Association walked out of the project in protest but by this point questions were also being raised about whether near negative know in time not just peace but other wildlife too. Which come to me an expert tanika gardens where we meet spanish toxicologist Francisco Sanchez bio he conducted a major study on the annex that attracted global interest. So when youre published youre going to be in the beginning of this year what was the conclusion that we found in this in the countries where this has been studied which is mostly European American but also countries around the world like the same or japan 40 percent of the species of insects are declining and among those one 3rd of them are really climate rapidly and they have threatened with extinction. Eaten says near negative noise play a key role in that trend and they dont just kill insects they damage entire ecosystems. By a proof that in japan where he studied irrigation rice fields over a 2 year period. These ecosystems are home to minute truthfully. Known as daphnia as well as crayfish when japanese rice fish called dhaka. One day the rice farmers noticed that much of this wildlife was dying apart from the water fleas the crayfish were especially hard hit a laboratory achieving university was asked to investigate the research is soon found the culprit the same near nicotine knowing that it killed the beings in france we know melissa of certain very curiously in the middle of the well in the in the medical some st it was exactly where all absolutely all a 100 percent of the fish were contaminated with but also on but our site and of course we put it down to the fact that. The only go to nights in here is the new system so its all species were sensitive to the insecticide except ducks. So the hole was then use of it so that was an anomaly and they are fortunate fact is that this anomaly had been used as the reason to say that this insect is i was say for the moment when he was a complete anomaly. The poison did not kill the tiny watervliet but it did affectively exterminate much larger species that weaken their mean system so severely that they were easy prey for parasites. The results were in this peaceable or so centuries buyer thought but he hadnt reckoned with the format they assigned to it actually helped to develop me an x. The day i explained the results for the 1st year measure course on studies to the whole group and to the faculty. At the end he just couldnt understand the resource himself and he has me so whether you want to do with these results and i said work the 1st thing i want to do is to publish them because its not in nobility and he really. Didnt know what to say he was speechless and said do you really want to publish it insidious i think its important to let the world know whats happening. But they wanted to keep it secret they didnt want to publicize sanity which would be damaging for the company. The toxicologist says the laboratory then terminated his contract but he published the results anyway. The events he witnessed indicate that at least one bayer scientists knew right back in 2004 about the kind of devastation many illiterate annoyed can cause an ecosystems. For virus search it clear that they are tried for decades to prevent any kind of universal ban on near negative noise. In front the company sought to intimidate beekeepers and scientists and played a leading role in a questionable study on b. Mortality that exonerated the insecticide. And germany insecticide makers funded have been monitoring project it led to the widespread belief that ne ne get annoyed had nothing to do with mass be deaths. And in japan it would appear bayer employees even sought to suppress the publication of a crucial study scientists and proven atlantic it annoyed were responsible for the collapse of entire ecosystems. So what does bear say to all these allegations that Research Results we spent weeks trying to communicate with the company and were then denied entry to its premises. Bev representatives refused to talk to us on camera our written questions went unanswered instead the company criticized what it described as unfair treatment by the media and many centers fis general statement. He remains convinced that the use of munich it annoyed to say for humans and the environment provided they are used responsibly and in accordance with the instructions for use. Only get annoyed only kill pests were told. By a studys claim that not even long term use is harmful to be other insects or fish. As for the allegation that bay employees sought to manipulate other studies no comment. We return to dutch toxicologist hank tannic as he spent years studying these pesticides during that time he discovered 2 studies carried out by day on the findings of which are astounding and one scientist describes the effects of the 1st me a nigga to knowledge of the nervous system of a species of fly these are facts are described as irreversible. Amid a cloak produced the 1st highly effective insecticide that works on the principle of almost completely blocking receptors in a way that is virtually irreversible. One of the bayer studies was completed in 1901 so one year before the product was granted in the right approval when tenet is confronted by it with these studies and was taken aback by the response. They are now claims that the blocking of the receptors in the nervous system is reversible so theyre contradicting themselves. If the effect is reversible it depends on the concentration and so you can define a threshold level or govern. If the market is irreversible you cant find a threshold level and so the effect is cumulative zones so it was rumored 03. Be virginal beta study is key because if the toxins remain in the nervous system that can lead to death even if the insects were only exposed to a small doubts so if they knew that why did the company take no action in your cloak in medical open alone generates annual turnover of nearly a 1000000000 euros or sources so i think that led them to just claim something so they could keep selling this pesticide work and. If theyd consider the impact this substance has they would have had to take it off the market mark. We also asked the bayer group about these studies carried out by it and scientist and once again the company declined to comment. Theres enough evidence to prove the dangers and the annex but authorities have either been slow to respond or taken no action at all if we take the European Union for example a look at how pesticides are authorized is highly ready willing. First the active ingredient is approved you white use it the manufacturer can apply and any Member States france was chosen for the 1st knee or negative. But only the manufacturers test the substance for toxicity and environmental impact. The authorities just do the paperwork. In germany best the federal office of Consumer Protection and food safety along with 3 other agencies none of them test products. So everything depends on studies carried out by the manufacturer as the European Beekeepers Association points out its a system that all too easy to manipulate. Just think the manufacturers can intervene at all levels dont even get a say in how any prescribed tests are structured for tests did. You see of us done on the horde girls up until now its also been the case that the studies that a manufacturer commissioned or under took up remained a Corporal Cesar for a time as does he well. The advantage they could be published on and damn it also steamed me so no one else could tell what the licensing authorities actually checked. We had to drop proof taht just matters that makes life easy for the authorities because no one can really question their decisions and try to. As well as them there is a very very convenient relationship between industry and regulatory authorities would you rather. To this day remains a distinctly sickly system what if independent poetrys were to carry out tests prior to approval instead of these powerful Chemical Companies wed like to discuss this with the German Agriculture minister yulia kleck not the weeks we tried to get an interview when we finally got an appointment we were told that we couldnt use our camera and that the minister had no time for us instead we received a statement saying that the ministry was committed to continuing to develop the approval and licensing procedures on the basis of the latest developments in science and technology and yet and a directive aimed at tightening the approval regulations for pesticides has been stalled for years but germany among those standing in the way. Critics like french lawyer ben awful say its the result of successful lobbying by manufacturers like they are. Looking for but now youve to search it a lot we mustnt be naive object the goal and purpose of these companies is to make money with these products your supporters dont even know them are good and thats what they do building with all means at their disposal if thats normal. Such a. All of all circulate by not mom what is a normal is breaking the law concealing facts playing for time. Do they need dollars dont in order to prevent products that are harmful from being taken off the market would you be the local sticky so ne. Even though the evidence is clear near nicotine or into still one of the most widely used insecticides in the world. They on the one hand has influenced scientific studies and intimidation dont seem just critics while on the other lax licensing rules and all floridians who have ignored deeply troubling studies have prevented meaningful controls and meaningful changes will Mean Companies being monitored more closely and warnings he did. 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