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africa it's the to have your company mani's president abraham. is now prepared to talk with the hottest groups in the hope of ending an insurgency that's made swathes of the country ungovernable human rights watch says last year was the deadliest since the start of the embraced in 2012 at least $456.00 civilians were killed and hundreds more wounded in central i'll be talking to an expert on monday after this report. showing force showing presence the mali an army is patrolling villages in the center of the country a region prone to attacks by jihadist groups but the area is not easy to control and people keep fleeing into neighboring book enough facile. change of the murder not a fortunately the jihad is continue to come beat the kill and people are fleeing here i've just received 600 who don't have shelter they sleep outside everyone here in this improvised refugee camp as witnessed or experienced trust cities. because they killed it's why we ran away when the attack the 1st time we thought it would stop but it continued and the last time the we were afraid so we fled since its limits insurgency in the north of mali in 2012 the situation has worsened despite the deployment of a french 4th and to solve 13 and a peace agreement in 2015 the islamists have still been able to stage attacks in central mali. the islamists also triggered into ethnic violence leading to massacres and destruction of whole villages. now of the mahdi and president. has decided to change his strategy. it's my duty today in my mission to create possible spaces. to do everything possible. by one means or another we can achieve some sort of peace. because the number of deaths in the saddle today is growing exponentially and to believe it's time that certain have been used were explored. he has sent a fall mama and president on a mission to talk with the jihadists to explore the possibility of dialogue but the chances for a quick solution of the conflict a fault 2 below scoring defy is west africa tyrants there at human rights watch has just published a report about the situation in mali and joins me now from there welcome to the africa corps reading in your latest report say that 29000 was the deadliest for civilians why has the situation cost and we're. well indeed it's important to look at to construct your lies our report and our findings within the context of a severe deterioration within the said hell in general that is mali burkina faso and the share as armed islamist groups are gaining strength and as the militias which have organized to counter the groups are organizing are gaining members and are engaging in these atrocities also within the wider context of the region there are a few dynamics which are really pushing serving to push young men into the arms of the jihadists and that is the lack of justice by as a result of the violence by the militia groups as well as security force violations mahdi's president says he wants to have dialogue with the jihadists what's your take on that. well we don't take a position for or against dialogue many people here feel as though it can reduce lead to a reduction in tension but we would say that it is no substitute for the importance of justice for the atrocities which civilians from all different sides have endured . corian here in mali you've spoken to people what they tell you about how they feel about what's going on in the country. well i can tell you people from all different sides have suffered tremendously from the violence i mean really the accounts that i documented that our witnesses told us were absolutely heartbreaking of women having their children ripped from their arms and murdered in front of them of people who saw their parents who were too frail and old to run away burned alive in their houses people taken off buses and murdered you know they're just horrific atrocities and these families want justice and there they represent all different ethnic groups all different sides of the conflicts they all want justice and we have found that armed groups in the face of impunity and you know feel as though they can apparently if they have an apparent no apparent fear of being held to account and that is in fact embolden them to continue to commit atrocities and to lead to the cycle of violence so dialogue or no door dialogue the families want justice for more and they want more protection as well to ensure the protect their families and indeed indeed. for the investigations into these atrocities you've also called on. to to persecute to prosecute. people what do you recommend the government does. well we're urging them to to invest to systematically investigate and hold more people to account since 2015 when the war really intensified in central mali i've personally documented almost 800 civilian murders by various different groups and there has been justice in only 2 of those cases one in 2016 and the other one at the end of last year so we're asking them to to apply their own laws to investigate and hold to account those responsible as well as to increase the protection of the civilian population through patrols and through the disarming of these abusive groups. thousands of kenyans packed a stadium in the capital to bid farewell to the country's longest serving bitter daniel. 24 year old kenya become a one party state was credited for maintaining stability by some and criticized for crushing dissent. reports from nairobi. this is the situation outside the national stadium inside their dignitaries who are already mourning and conducting a national service but outside you can see groups of people who've been here some as early as 8 am wanting to get inside and despite the fact that the stadium has a 30000 people capacity there are many who are still locked out and the difficulty here is not with the security services. the. just across from the stadium there are those who have seen the national funeral service of the former president as an economic opportunity not surprising ice cream is one of the most popular things on sale today it's quite quite another thing that's really hot on the market the kenyan floods more it was after all seen as a national hero by some and it's no surprise that the national flag is out on display today with most people wanting to be associated with it. very good so many businesses. who are the good president he has a good leader there was peace during his time and we're coming to celebrate that but on the side of town further from the national stadium is a more somber mood what's happening inside this room is people reading personal accounts of their interactions with the former president they believe him to have been responsible for crossfire lucian's against human rights forced imprisonment as well i'm here to acknowledge the people who lost their lives paid the ultimate price for the freedom of the democracy to free. that allows is probably going to take these this is going to never been possible doing waste time we just wanted to show that. it was legacy is complicated it's not one sided and to kind of create space for that critical remembrance report from nairobi now today 30 years ago nelson mandela was released from prison after having spent 27 years behind bars he's released in 1960 event in ending south africa's brutal apartheid system off racial oppression mandela had been convicted along with 10 other activists our correspondent adrian krishna with one of them. i. remember him coming out of prison with a wife winnie by his side. courting her. he was her 1st. and he made a speech. which was typical of no samandar ever your. character here where. there was nothing for me. here. we visited dennis goldberg at his home in cape town despite having cancer he wants to talk about the process his parents were british immigrants and opposed to apartheid when he was a student goldberg joins the resistance it was a time when peaceful protests by the black population were violently suppressed time and again. and there are many years. he's shaping up and he go on me and then she would go for technical training you know how to build bridges can you play. of course but. soon after the rivonia trial they were sentenced to life in prison mandela and the other black defendants were imprisoned on robben island as goldberg was white it was jails and pretoria segregation also applied to prisons they all work up in the middle. wondering where i. am i am. thinking about prison was my feeling anxious you had 22 years of a life but it was worse then as goldberg was released after 23 years in prison he then left south africa and campaigned for the release of nelson mandela abroad when mandela was finally freed and gave his famous speech rights you on the balcony of the town hall in cape town gold watched it on t.v. he now lives in cape town again and despite all the social challenges of south africa goldberg remains an optimist also when it comes to the fight against racism which is far from over we mustn't forget to. happen again no internet any form but we do have to. we will try responsibility of putting in a force. around the people enough. to reach this move on. things especially young people. all right and that's it for now from africa you can catch well stories on our website and facebook page table begin now with some music by grammy award winning grip ladies. joseph shabalala has died aged 58 extract i've. enjoyed. dylan to one official estimates more than 1200000 venezuelans live in colombia legally and illegally. i'd return to. visit friends i don't think i'd ever go back there to live you know where i live there again i don't know so i'm not sure. witness global news that matters. made for mines. he takes it personally you went with the place to make the game so special. true for. more than. a low and a warm welcome to our news from the world of arts and culture coming up on the program. brazil is the only one of its kind and a documentary 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