A government like that still deserve the support of the west. Welcome to called lets go right last april donald trump showered complements on your main rival in libya really for after which clearly shocked you and yet you claim to come back with a message that the u. S. Was still behind you whats the evidence for that well being if we believe that weve been a us ally for quite a long time we were fighting side by side to fight and isis and libya times change the kurds thought that as well where time of change because we cannot apply what happened in syria and libya and im talking about how alliances come in. Mr trump said that he appreciated mr have to a significant role in fighting terrorism their shared vision for libyas transition to a stable democracy high praise from the leader of the western world for your main enemy isnt that standing by you its a pretty look almost anybody can. Say those things about you know we still believe that. The administration of united state that mr ation of the white house believed that some wrong mistakes so long messages have been around about have to and hes fighting terrorism i think the folks in the u. S. Is badly informed yes i think the president and by inform and i believe that the message bust yesterday from the Foreign Ministers would libyan Foreign Ministers and the libyan internal ministers that they want to see libyan staple and the problem in libya certainly through a political process yeah but they dont necessarily want you to win any more do they. The issue is not winning a war we are fighting for what you want to talk to have to really youve ruled out talking to no its not the lesions between the june a government and have to order a government of national yes then after our government we believe that the libyan people should went for bringing libya to stability to have a democratic countries to have a country which rules by law and not getting back to a military rule of for the good you says is really in june the just is life illiterate you flatly rejected the idea of talking to have to have stuck cant be trusted you said talking with after is out of the question we need a bar as what you said when you go to Peace Process you need abattoirs and it was after he wants you to talk so youre not on the same page there well why should i want you to talk no washington said that washington story wasnt a did not say that we want to they want us to talk with after wasnt and so. Said that the political process should be peacefully not through a military. You know attacking tripoli is not the solution they did say the state Department Official said in april the u. S. Is consulting with a broad range of libyan leaders as well as our International Partners to print press for stabilisation and bring Prime Minister else iraq and general hafta back to the negotiating table so they want you to talk this you think they stay in the same position after 888 months of fighting around tripoli after all the attack on hospitals and schools after all their lives there we lost from both sides on that i think the u. S. Message is completely different today i think they want to look at who are causing this war in libya and whos. Because in this brooks you warrant you hope its different but you have no evidence that its different in june we had the acting u. S. Defense secretary Patrick Shanahan also saying what weve said before what i do support is fieldmarshal have to support in terms of his role in counterterrorism but where we need to support is in building democratic stability in the region so theyre talking still talking about multi players talking to each other yes but at the same issue have to send a clear message to everybody that he dont want to democracy in libya he want all libyans for quite sometimes until he see that libya stable to go for democracy i think this is a conflict with in what you say from the Foreign Ministers or. The defense minister youve been pushing the message for a long time the g. N. A. S. Been pushing the message for a long time that you can win and that you will finally beat him back outside of tripoli and he knows the game is over it doesnt seem to know that the game is over why have you misled people like this will you think we mislead people i believe after 8 months he did not succeed to get into tripoli after 8 months of fighting with all the support that have to be getting from outside libya he didnt win that he didnt get a libya in tripoli he said that i would be in tripoli in 2 days and he said that repeatedly the g. And a is above the past now we are since the 4th of april was almost for 8 months he did not succeed and thats look at the way around the sematic whats driving this conflict isnt just the failure to hold talk its the fact that the war economy developed of many years has made libyas militia groups absurdly rich and they refused to give this up that and that includes militias that are allied to your government as well when we had a clear program. To clean up tripoli and clean up libya from militia and our program stop you havent got very far will we start in the february with our turnaround ministers but unfortunately have to attack on the 4th of april and make all disputed graham just stand and stop so its clear that he want to cause he want to use any excuse to attack tripoli does not the problem of militia is not a problem for economics when the june a government came to power the production of oil was just 120 better the day to day we are talking about 1001000000 200000 barrel a day when we came to bowen in libya the libyan country had a lot of problems lets. Talk about these militia groups because in october the world bank said there was now an open war in your country for power and wealth capture and report after report has suggested that only the militia groups hold sway in your country that the Prime Minister has little if any real power over the whole country or indeed the forces which are a stance of under his control power rests mostly in the hands of the militia cartel this is the view of the small arms. Well a 1000001 side and one side the whole ward stand by dick cheney politically in public announcement but under the table many of these countries are supporting this militia and thats why we have the problems we want to clearance from the rest of the world and the country who are helping us in 2011 that there really stand by the governor austinite world is peeling you to cut your links with these corrupt militia groups who you continue to ally with yeah but still were going to show them some additional countries they make this will it diminish a stronger us and this is exactly what were looking for that better lean process theyd stop helping different identity than the government of libya whos helping whos helping these many countries which European Countries our neighbor countries and some arab countries so so youre blaming it on the on the europeans that you have close ties with murdering militia groups who extort who fire off their weapons against civilian areas its all europes fault is it and that they are deeply involved in the corruption of your administration well they dont trust the government they believe that some of the militia are stronger than the government and they made good will they improved that havent they well they dont prove it when they have to attack tripoli everybody was aligned with the government to different the capital from the military rulers who want to rule the country take the back are a battle and it was ordered by the g. N. A. T. Disband after its leader repeatedly involved in fighting at tripoli airport he took no notice the special Deterrence Force this is a group that detained 2 journalists for questioning and arrested others without warrant one of its commander said we cant act as if the government were in a position to give us orders in other words they take no notice of you so thats how thats how much influence you have on these militias we need time to bring. Our military together we need time to make our security protect you shouldnt of got into bed with these deeply corrupt violent. Bad and deal with this militia disbelief there was existing before the genie government even exist we came in by our would with more than 30 or 35. 00 militia in tripoli now we have only a few more less than 3 or 4 in tripoli and now under your government a cartel of 4 major militia groups have gradually divided up the capital between themselves and they now hold you and the government of National Accord ransom to their changing demands and this feuds and corruption well i think you have some good information but some of your information is quite old since that that after of tripoli everybody is united under the umbrella of the genii we dont have militias who are as both as you reported explained your own interior minister by shaka. He blurted it out during an interview in january he said his interior Ministry Budget falls under the control of militia groups by force thats what he set the ministries expenses have reached 300000000 dinars and widespread corruption was found so you say his Ministry Budget belongs to one when mr bush of our our ministers say that the holy war should say that he started a program to clean up his ministers from descriptive militia training and youre government is rotten to the core with these people involved in your budgets taking over your budgets by force its rotten to the core is no thats why we have a new ministers thats why he started his program in the last mars so Everybody Knows that you cannot clean up from 30 militia in one day you wake up and you have all things done you need times and process and the extortioners going on and youve let it happen and they have over the years the last 2 years there. Extorted in attempted to extort huge sums of money from the government you have to look at the whole story the government of genie came to power in 2068 was outside strip when it came to tripoli clean up a tree would you from a lot of militia start this war against. Insert after all after he says he is after reading your body. And i have to say you have to say you have to say that you clean a bungalow as he done there but never mention that that insert he done the job weve done the job after only 4 months of arriving in tripoli at the same time as your militia groups are extorting from you you know that exactly when the country is divided you have to work 1st and you have to have priorities which hour by hour to cleaning up the country from isis or fighting the militia mr matic if you dont stand for law and order and an end to corruption you dont stand for anything at all no we really dont we do but we get to our country and our country had a long war with isis for more than a year and a half once we done with isis we started up to rebuild our Financial Institutions and when we get to our Financial Institution we find a problem militia and we have problems with our Oil Production at the same time we find have to is attacking oil field and we dont want to go in conflict with him because we have our internal problem with the mission so we have a boy or at least as i explained to you we have ability i just issues arise in the production of oil making the life of libyans better and of course we have to clean up our country from the dishes and the controlling of our many dollars are usually wrong way round because these militia groups have carried out extrajudicial executions they have attacked civilians and civilian properties and abducted tortured and disappeared people maybe you should have started with them all we have the law and the hold on. The hold they have on your government minutes we have a problem is with our borders we have a broad brims with the refugees we have a problems of Illegal Immigrants we have a problems to make our libyan currency for the 6 millions for libyans their life betters to improve their economies we have to find a way to have you know step one at the time we cannot do it all at the same time how can you claim them to be any turned of legitimate to authority when your own affiliates murder and steal their way around your country with absolute impunity none of these militia groups have been brought to account theres no intention to bring them to account is that of course you could have taken some of the leaders you could have put them on trial if you were really serious about doing something yeah and you bet your capital your own capital at the risk at the same time there isnt a terrorist attack in other city libya so but then we were going to ask at the end of the day are you worth saving as a government are you really worth it. Of course we are worth of we make the life to have been better we saved a life people uncertain we live for you we make the life of the libyans and study of having what 1. 00 for 40 dollars today is for dinner is for one day you know what when will you live better than a 3rd of your people want to leave the country well a lot of them want to leave your country well because the people who are out of the country who are helping the other side attacking the capitals and making the life of libyan worst and causing a proxy war in libya and what about cleaning up the appalling treatment of many thousands of migrants in your country in june the un high commissioner for human rights urged you to launch an immediate investigation into the disappearance of more than 150 migrants from the Detention Center under the oversight of your department for combat in illegal migration fact is that 203 people were delivered the may the 23rd by june the 7th the facility reported that only 30 were left what happened to these people when we have a lot of immigrants in libya was not staying and that center says particularly disturbing in the light of the fact that immigrant migrants are being sold into forced labor to smugglers who promise them transit to europe and theyre being sold from the other homes and that libya alone cannot deal with him a concession of this is you cant deal with slave this is no no you cant do is low this is a reward have done we have no proof of it ok and we work closely with our you know ministers you have not i think you know this is going on youve known for the last 2 years it was good no this is not right this is not this is false information we have no slavery in libya we have no what sort of call a slavery issue libya we have to work with the International Community what is their interest what is it you are your own as long as your is not what all the reports have been saying that only people are being sold to people trafficker traffickers. And women are being sold for Sexual Exploitation you denial that you we have no information as a government otherwise we do our job how come they have much more information than you they are better informed than you were as they are when the government is working closely with the International Community to save the lives in the middle of the mediterranean seas where does this reports when our coast guard would just very few visitors that we have we saved 1000 the fly every morning and every day where dissolute boards when we try to help this immigrants and the middle of Sahara Desert bring their life to more stable and leave libya we have more than 800000 women into libya and live close to what libyans with all of the reports weve been do you know a lot weve been working a lot to save the life of immigrants we believe that we should have bitter reports and bitter understanding of the problems if the International Community is committed and willing to work with the libyans not sending audio messages about steven in libya we have been promises a lot on the lot from europeans but nothing been done many of the since 2 so your said i was sponsibility for the so im not denying responsibility of something to happen and we are responsible for it as a government of libya we will do our best and we are committed to work with the International Community the american the life of the immigrants is better but what they will be and what the International Community done or this why they are accusing the libyans is the way why they did not do what they have to do with the libyans when we as it is of we ask for help to do our real bit of graham they have theyve been giving you plenty of training in no has been given nothing of training and you and you and your coach they are yours european and European Committee many times a Commuter Community many times that there are promises its very very very low than what they already were almost us if you were doing so much yourself why do you continue to him. Ploy people in your coast guard have been sanctioned by the u. N. Im thinking of one of your coast guard officials and the rock month. According to the sanctions listing from june last year he heads the regional unit of the coast guard in zawiya that is consistently linked with violence against migrant and other human smugglers while you still employ these people i think there is a report coming from our minister of interior saying clearly that he is not an employee for minister of internal the u. N. Panel of experts claims that he and other coast guard members directly involved in the sinking of migrant boats using firearms the un says this coast guard is consistently linked and you say you know nothing about it no i said our minister from terminal they have a clear statement that this man is not an employee by the minister of internal so who is employed by the coast guard then well you have the coast guard calling according to the sanctions listing says that he collaborates with other migrant smugglers such as mohammed catch lafe who sources suggest is providing protection to him to carry out illicit operations related to the trafficking and smuggling of migrants several people in criminal investigations have stated they were picked up at sea by armed men on the coast guard ship called tele ill used by millet and taken to the Detention Center where they are reportedly held in brutal conditions and subjected beatings he of course denies any wrongdoing. Of course if Something Like this happen we as a government condemned all of this kind of actions and if hes working with our minister of interior or our cause he should be banned and killed in 2017 the u. N. Secretary general appealed to your government to investigate reports of slaves being sold in libya and you personally you personally announced the setting up of a commission of inquiry to investigate where is this commission of Inquiry Commission the un has never heard of it yeah the un had on the whole report about it and i want mr instead of justice read this commission and have a clear winner ground thats why so thats all you know really nobody who we talked to including the un has ever heard of this commission that was set up you say no we said it and the headed by them one minister frontier not and theyve done 2 public announcement about the whole report about slavery about that is dont think its liberty in libya and this is was or for that simply in direct contradiction to all the reports that are pointed to it well thora 30 of reports maybe maybe you got only the 1st part of the report you dont follow up with the rest of that you cant even tell me where these people in comms went when you were contacted by the un and asked pacifically earlier this year where did these people go to well you are talking and they disappeared you did not disappear and they went out of their center well they said theres more than 800000 women couldnt leave in libya outside the centers so you cannot claim disguised as went out of the center and theyre not leaving Good Condition in libya. The u. S. Embassy says that the endemic corruption in your government and the militia influence over government ministries has contributed to your inability to address trafficking effectively you have some responsibility for this you have responsibility for these migrants many of whom are kept in the pool in conditions indefinitely subject to abuse beaten up some in conditions that amount to torture are you prepared one day to go into a court of law and justify why you kept people in these conditions as long as we have a formations about whats happening in this interests and thats why we have a regular visitor from a commissioner from new and different places we are doing our best to keep this up to standard its not so i wont do that without sometimes sometime it is difficult to deal with this when theres somebody attack in hospital and school in your town and your country you cannot. Talk about immigrants and their problems i know its an humanitarian tragedy and were pretty if we will do our best despite that there is nothing been done from the International Community that has not been done that is nor do you have what you hear its easy always to blame someone no im not blaming them were not of blaming them with you we have a large want of the responsible we are we are we are an african nations and arab nations and the mediterranean and there is a responsibility lie on our shoulders as a government of libya but we are in time for and conflict and thats why we need the International Community to stand by us helping us to manage this fight its a big fight libya cannot deal with this fight alone and thats why we ask the International Community standards didnt get rid of the militias of course we need 20 what we did get the flu shot we need to get rid of the military rulers we need to have a better life of libya when the government of national called has been look at what the government of National Accord did look in 34 years name one government in the world then liberate a city like sirte from isis without any water on the ground helping the libyans the libyan did it alone the government beyond the war and that tack of half tours of the capital as we have a bitter financial. And you have a long list and you have a long list of failures as well of course the history here long im something im not found go to even use the back is a big reforms im not you agree last year yeah i think fuel subsidies all the thing unifying the central bank failure to settle the teachers is not our failure to invest in basic services no electricity no no i said i said its very clear for me that we had a lot of Success Stories and we have a failure. We have a Success Story that we can brow different we are very proud for the government but the same times we have a problems because there is there is very limited time to do all was there was a problems with conflict in libya there was always that the country has or doesnt want to be stable and there is a big challenge for government overall during a conflict and during the president of isis on target and in the country ok i quit my take Good Conflict so thank you very much weve run out of time thank you. To to. Get. Our. Top. 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