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We will leave final table to 31st. Sentences. Will be. Pointless to do that this is a government with. No balls and as of today no majority. Also coming up bangladesh is threatening to send tens of thousands of our hindu refugees to a Remote Island a new home that there are a hinge a do not want to call their own. Thats not a matter we dont want to go to china because it gets flooded and then people die children will be drowned for them its another trap when they lose their minds if we go they will help us to stay here and if i get well lets. On to our viewers on p. B. S. In the United States and all around the world welcome we begin the day with that showdown in one. And britains new Prime Minister Boris Johnson faced a make or break parliamentary vote over breaks that tonight he lost the battle but there is still the war now members of parliament they won control today to set the brakes it agenda moving forward and tonight were learning that tomorrow members of parliament some members of Parliament May actually try to resurrect the withdrawal deal that was negotiated by a former Prime Minister the former Prime Minister to resign may heres what was said today in parliament. And of course i think one of the most remarkable things that took place just in this statement was to see the member for black no cost the floor Prime Minister you have lost your majority. My right honorable friend has a short me that is very keen to get a deal with the European Union last friday chancellor merkel of germany observed somewhat separately the 9 days into the 30 days that the Prime Minister had requests shes during his visit to believe that she had yet see the new proposals from the night you think what she also said what she also said is that there is no point towards what my friends across the e. U. Have said is that there is no point in having a negotiation as long beginning formal talks as normal as there is a rich parliament to make the decision impossible its not just chancellor merkel because of that no should stand to propose it has been put forward last week a the irish deputy Prime Minister has said and i quote nothing credible has come from the British Government and quote a little tentative to the backstop provided to the right preparations are on to taken by government business and individuals risks can be mitigated significant challenges can be met and we can be bridged to all for a threat which actually home zones many times more than those against whom the threat is supposed to be levelled is not as i say a credible negotiating strategy. All right now what you were watching there was the 1st battle over break so weve got complete coverage of what happened today and what could happen tomorrow and talk about that im joined by barbara vais all shes covering the story for us from london tonight and were brits of alice right here in the studio with me alex forrest wide and here at the big table. Well i mean today was a day that was full of Political Drama at westminster and there was an. Stored mary c. During Prime Minister Boris Johnson speech in parliament with a member of his party stood up and defected to another party i want to take a look at that because i think this is really a moment when the whole world was watching him was speechless so hes got the Prime Minister speaking of restoring our rhythm their feet you see right there the servant of philocles gets up and walks across the house. People realize whats happened including the Prime Minister who was. The old order. And it was a shock wasnt it was a shock in the way that he did it i mean theres been talk about philip leave to defecting for some time but he definitely chose his opportune moment to do that when the Prime Minister was speaking and he got up and he walked across to the Opposition Party the liberal democrats to make the point that he could no longer sit with a posse that he has been an m. P. For for many years and some of the lines that he said in the statement when he quit saying that the government had been using political manipulation bullying and to lie and that was why he could no longer stay a conservative m. P. And that was the start of the day where the Power Dynamics changed right absolutely because then Boris Johnson had a majority of just one m. P. And he lost that and that majority lets just remember includes 10 m. P. s from another party from the Northern Ireland d u p party theyre the ones who are propping up his government so its a very very difficult situation for the Prime Minister who is new to the job thats remember him was hoping that he could bulldoze his way through with support from m. P. s and has no time to very well and the for. The week that he has been Prime Minister today in parliament in the house of commons one m. P. Leaving his side to walk over to the opposition as barbara Parliament Today basically rowsley back you know the right to control the boards the agenda is that enough to prevent another deal brinson. We are no waiting for the vote that might be imminent because a lot of the old brick sit arguments have been rehashed here and polman did during the last hours bought also as alex already said there was a new layer of arguments and that was directed against Boris Johnson because his opponents are telling him you are lying to us and theyre giving. In order to prove that its not only that he says corrective negotiations are swimmingly even though they arent effectually existing but it is the yawn that he is sort of pursuing a heart breaks it in not telling them about his intentions that he won see do Something Else on the cover of talking about the European Union and that it needs to be blackmailed into submission mol this by britain in order to make enough concessions for Boris Johnson and his hard line is to be satisfied. After all this has been exchanged well see if they did all of service here is say the figures out there it will go through it will show that not only does Boris Johnson dogs have a majority bought the off was ition reinforced by rebels from his own camp cant just vote him down. And. Some indians are trying to resurrect a with strolled you know break the withdrawal deal that. You know was what shut down 3 times threw him in parliament the work of former Prime Minister to resign yes us. Right thats the irony in all of this where weve talked for months and months is a reason maze yes it seems to be dead but could it possibly be coming back in a different form they are labor m. P. s are they are opposition m. P. s they are m. P. s who are one thing to be bracks it they do not want it to be a no deal bright side but they are in favor of being bracks it because of the referendum so they want it to happen and they feel that the only way it can happen is if there is a deal so they want to try to change this motion thats going to be legislated tomorrow by m. P. s to say that the government the Boris Johnson must bring back the latest deal to parliament so they can get another chance to vote on it which will will be interesting as to whether that happens if m. P. s will agree with that and i think many probably will because they dont want to no deal pressures it but they many of them the majority feel the house to be bricks it because that is what the majority of brits voted for back in 26 did in that referendum i wish we could read the mind of theresa may tonight london where there was a break right now in europe is watching i want you to take a listen to what we heard today from the french secretary of state for European Affairs about what works. We consider that brooks it is not the end of history in the british islands well still be the 1st neighbor in the northwest of we will have to work very soon on the future relationship that the british people and the British Government and british authorities want to be a with the European Union and the people and the industries and the companies and the researchers and all the people that own the european continent well still be looking at the u. K. As a place to have exchanges and relationships. I mean how do you read that message there from france it is almost as if shes saying this is all much ado about nothing after breakfast you know history doesnt end. And frankly i couldnt understand you because theres so much noise behind us because the anti tears having a party here. Just before parliament and not challenging and saying as you can hear so i did lose you over it because theres a barber virtually were out of time but i think those people behind you i think theyve caught the spirit of the evening at least for this evening barbara believes will there in. I mean why did here at the table with both of you thank you very much. Well people in the bahamas have begun venturing outside and this is what Hurricane Dorian has left for them waist high water as far as the eye can see dorian the strongest hurricane ever recorded in the bahamas has claimed at least 5 lines but that number is expected to climb the storm not only slammed into the islands with winds at 300 kilometers an hour but it did it basically sat there for a day and a half dropping unimaginable amounts of rain. Meteorologists say that dorian earlier today was moving at one kilometer per hour you and i we could walk faster than that snails pace has apparently helped to weaken the storm dorian is now a category 2 hurricane and its on its way to the u. S. East coast the states of florida georgia and South Carolina have issued evacuation orders dorian is tied for the 2nd most powerful hurricane to ever be recorded in the Atlantic Ocean and it is one of the hardest to predict the models used by meteorologists continue to update and reissue the expected path of the storm which we see there but even now dorian could just as easily veer to the west and collide with florida instead of skirting the coast of the carolinas and going out to sea to die all right for more on this now we want to pull in the media ologists who is following the storm with us matthew compute she he is watching everything from washington d. C. Good evening to you matthew i understand correct me if im wrong there are more variables to consider. More than we would usually be considering when it comes to predicting dorians path weve heard of the bermuda high being a factor but thats just one of the what are these variables that are making it so hard to predict. Yes of the remuda high is off the east right now and its been sitting there and the question for a while was how close would that come to the coast that effects the steering currents that dorian will be susceptible to so theres that over the ohio valley theres a trough kind of a big area of low pressure and that screw story up the closest and look to be kind of a squeeze play as to where dorian would ultimately go which system would control it more right now dorian has just sat for a little while because no system is picking it up but now it looks like joran will start to meander northwards eventually as it connects with that High Pressure theres been a lot of talk about the predicted path. Of the hurricane and what it means and whether or not people are misunderstanding what the cone is supposed to represent or to me a little bit about that i mean are people misreading what the media ologists are predicting. I think the cone people look at that most say ok if im in the cone danger of an out of the cone no danger at all and in reality the cone has nothing to do with how confident we are and we look at that we might think oh this is a range of possibilities instead the cone is just based on historical error from the National Hurricane center so they look at all the paths of the last 5 years how well their forecast did and then thats how they determine the width of the cone so it really just shows different areas of the storm might go based on Historical Performance but torrence been tougher to predict than most hurricanes so dont take that cone too seriously take it with a grain of salt because dorian is much more unpredictable than that and you know i spoke with a climate scientist earlier today and he said that represents the new norm for the Hurricane Season that because the atlantic is warmer and also because you have more polar ice its melting them combination is fueling stronger storms and he told me tonight you know you can expect at least one dorrian every season now i mean thats thats thats sobering news right because theres no way really do to make that not happen. To me that sounds a little bit extreme what i will say is that storms are likely to become stronger so have a couple of greens were watching you mentioned the warmer ocean waters hurricanes feed off this fuel this warmer ocean water is really getting going so more of that will favor stronger hurricanes in the future were not seeing a trend for more hurricanes but those are forming will be stronger and in addition you mentioned Sea Level Rise so now if you have the ocean water rising slots say half a meter over the course of 5060 years all of a sudden its a lot easier for coastal areas to flood with the same storm so not only is a flooding in all the side effects getting worse but were also seeing the storms get worse so theres that in addition for every degree celsius we increase in temperature of the atmosphere can hold 7 percent more water so when you have storms like dorian stall they have that much more rain water to tap into and you can get some extreme rainfall totals like we saw in 2017 with harvey so multifaceted threat Going Forward but the storm dynamics are really shifting and Climate Change is part of the costs. Will we know the a lot of people especially in the caribbean in the bahamas on the eastern seaboard of the United States theyre going to be watching to see if theyre in that cone to see what this hurricane goes for the next couple of days its all right its good to have you on the show we appreciate you taking the time to talk with tonight thank you matthew. Well the government of bangladesh is threatening to send tens of thousands of or hinder refugees to a Remote Island by force despite warnings from environmentalist and rights groups. Because of the accommodations there on the island of boston shore and they have been especially constructed for the refugees the government says that it will offer a new start for the rich but the low why an oil and which is in the bay of bengal you can see right there it is vulnerable to erosion and flooding and critics theyve condemned the plan so how safe or unsafe is this island our correspondent naomi conrad was given access to the island she files this report. In the Worlds Largest 50 g. Camp in southern bangladesh fear is rife 2 years ago that government welcomed the influx of breaking a feeling me and mom today it is planning to send tens of thousands of them to an island in an area apprentice slightly. Thing thats not a matter we dont want to go to. Because it gets flooded and then people will die children will be drowned for them its another trap where theyll lose their lives if we go they will die help us to stay here and get it back it limits but i dont we lost our parents here to save on minds dont send us to pass on char just kill us here. Off to lengthy negotiations with the authorities d. W. Was taken to pass on charge by Bangladesh Navy which is overseeing the Construction Works to out us day we were accompanied by naval offices it took us 3 hours to reach present on a naval ship the sea was choppy but relatively calm so this time of the year. What is the longest period that you think ships might not be able to reach the. And indeed one really bad weather condition leave the 2nd to a strong warning that maybe one or 2 days or 3 days max if not more that. We have more than ever she will never stop nobody will be evacuated from this. That is because the navy says they have built sufficient protection against floods under roshon including a 3 metre high in bangkok meant. Inside this space 4100000 housed in clusters of identical shelters human rights organizations fear that refugees may be contained on the Remote Island for years. Sometimes this island is described as a jail does that offend you yes. The people who. Make floating island. They dont understand that i learned they didnt see the island and they do more about. Providing. The islands 120 cyclists in shelters can be used as hospitals primary schools and Community Centers to provide security there will be police posts and cameras monitoring the island we were in part something to. Remember it probably a life. We have if they come here it is paradise for burma is there no doubt about that from what weve seen conditions here do seem to be better than in cokes bazaar but questions remain around what daily life might be like will there be secondary education for young people what will they do will they can the refugees earn their own living and will they be able to leave the island without a special permit and of course what happens here when a cyclon hits. Didnt exist 20 years ago islands in the bay of being called by sediments and make up an ever changing ecosystem we showed the footage we took to an expert in sea invasion. Now do it. So it can be in orbit it can. Be. Do we. Without an embankment but on char would be too dangerous for habitation experts t w contacted disagreed with the barriers high enough but the government seems adamant to relocate trucking get to the island the myth told them that we dont have space here. If theyre not really for them. And once the decision has been taken refugees could be relocated in a matter of weeks even against their will. And with me here in the studio now is naomi conrad who filed that report good to see you naomi i mean when you when you see these pictures you think well i mean you know the refugees get brand new living accommodations its much better than what they have right now right. Well if you only look at the settlement then show its a lot better im in the huts and cox bazaar where we also spent sometimes are you know stifling the hostility and you know an hour or 2 in some of these huts for interviews and it was really difficult but once you look at the Bigger Picture which is that this is a very low lying island in the cyclon prone area then suddenly the picture is quite different i mean then we have questions of is the embankment high enough experts disagree so i cant give you a yes or no on that one but with rising sea levels and Climate Change cyclons are most likely going to increase in frequency and intensity so there are a lot of questions than diffuse you know look at the Bigger Picture its less clear whether the conditions would be better in spite of all of this i mean its not up for. A decision i mean these people will be moved you spoke with. The foreign minister about the relocation plans and he suggested that the rigid you could be moved to the island even if the United Nations objections was nobody told you. What is the most extreme step you could take if the u. N. Disagrees would you kick the un agencies out and i wouldnt do. That since we will do so to be clear if they dont support your plan of char you will tell them to we have to make a decision them well talk to them and see i mean that is Straight Talk coming from the foreign minister but hes telling you we will forcibly move these people what have been the reactions to that from the International Community theyve been quite muted so far in fact it was still waiting to hear back from the United Nations theyve declined to give us a comment so far because diplomatically this is incredibly sensitive. As we have i mean bangladesh would have the power to kick out all the un agency is but on the other hand theyre footing the multimillion dollar bill. Hows the refugees to feed them to provide education so i think its unlikely that they will actually fall striking affair but what theyre doing is more subtle maybe theyre making a Living Conditions in cults as on the refugees camps at the moment very difficult so they just yesterday they announced that they were forcing Telecommunications Providers to no longer provide internet and sim cards to refugees cuts them off from the rest of the world exactly and from relatives that may still be living in me and mossy you know there are other ways to force refugees rather than send in tanks full of the army and if the coercion doesnt work and there arent enough volunteers i mean how would the government go about forcing the are we talking about talking about tanks moving in or soldiers moving in and forcing the people picking the people up and moving i can do that politically i dont think well see well see that happening but what is clear is that its a very difficult very tense situation the aid agencies havent taken a decision yet by november they do actually have to decide on whether to include this in their planning for net. You know theyre under incredible pressure at the moment thats what u. N. Sources told us off the record so its a very fluid situation but i think a decision will have to be all will be taken off of the monsoon finishes which is in a couple of weeks you know very quickly and we cant i mean we thank you. Well the day is almost done but the conversation continues online your find us on twitter either at the w. News or you can follow me at t. V. Dont forget to use the hash tag the day and remember whatever happens between now and then tomorrow is another day well see you then everybody. In the. Placing. Of the worlds population is going to and from. 100 to 3. To. Many people can be. Analysis. Can still be uplifting. Hundreds off in my columns. Where i come from ride your im a. Its an important moon soft transmitting mules and for bush and when i was young my country was glorious confidence the war Strong Enough to keep. People would cause our own drug use if. 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