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Things abusive officials who accompany deportees such as speeding and biting is on the rise and with the same deportees inflicting injury on themselves is stressful. As it is. Try to avoid letting it get to me i think he doesnt mean me personally he probably sees Police Officers on the flight as representatives of the german state and she holds them in contempt because he has to leave the country that is how i just asked myself from the situation or. For me. The migrants from nigeria have long since landed back home for the time being they may not return to germany their dream is over. World war and remains a country deeply scarred by the genocide 25 years ago. About 800000 people were slaughtered in 100 days by ethnic extremists they were targeting members of the Minority Community as well as political opponents many of the killers mostly men have served time in prison but the genocide has had a lasting and devastating effects on rwanda with ethnicity still very much a taboo subject our correspondent melanie juried a ball introduces us to men who are trying to talk about what happened in the hopes of healing them so. It was awful when the mall today these men sit side by side in Community Based social sarah p. To share their experience of hearing on this darkest hour the 1994 genocide 25 years ago when up to a 1000000 tutsis a moderate hutus were wiped out interest 100 days but it would divide it among those who carried out the killings and those who survived it. Memories of being on the run and how his pregnant wife had to give birth in hiding of it. When we couldnt find a way that the baby would survive being with us but i still had friends who i was doing business with they helped me and they took my newborn mcknights to woman who run an orphanage and. The baby stayed there all but a few days later at the perpetrators when they had to look for him they took my baby and killed him one of them but i dont know what. Ive done now lives a peaceful life with his wife in the senate but he struggles with the guilt of not being able to protect the 12 members of his family who were killed during the genocide similarly from the release perpetrators like of at least to have served their sentence are still haunted by what they call the shame of their past he says hes guilty of killing 4 people including to members of his own family. I came to realize that i cant escape my judgment i accepted it and went to ask my father in law for forgiveness it was too much to hand over fact that i had killed my mother in law i was in so much pain. Many of the men returning from prison had struggled they found their families estranged their role as the head of the household challenged in the image of their very own masculinity destroyed. They say these feelings however cannot be talked about in public. And always has to be strong a man has to suffocate his pain and behave like a man. The way i see it a man should also show his emotions in rwandan culture i can accept it in public. Amounted to overcome its pain. Then swallowed it tears thats a local problem here in rwanda which reflect the dangerous side men are expected to deal with their pain and grief alone in silence and internally although the country is hailed as a role model reconciling with its violent past a toxic image of lets kill anybody and continues to have the healing process of its me a population. Away from social pressures. Im glad they have found a safe space to reconcile and work on the psychological. We do therapy helped. Because we used to favor each of the. Whenever i saw a person i had wronged. I could feel my heart racing. Around the city we have no problems with that work or try to say any more than i will that is there was certainly part of the families of social therapy. Say when we meet now we are the same we have the same heart the one i can miss you know. About it. But. The man of peace a new social Therapy Group hope to contribute to the healing of that country so that future generations 100. 00 peeved that mistakes by facing their demons together they set an example so that rundown men learn how to show their emotions and that society learns to accept that for a powerful story did talk about this process of healing im joined now from southern germany by dr thomas teaches a neuropsychologist in his work to help victims of conflict and trauma its good to have you on the show you have worked with conflict victims in rwanda congo and afghanistan to name just a few places how important is it in the healing process for for people to talk about past atrocities i think its very important to understand what has happened in the past and what is actually straight some dangers in the prisons and the only way you really cant process it is talking about it and you have to talk about your thoughts your motions your feelings and also about your sensations. We know that in the end in the fall well from the genocide of rwanda. There were in a massive changes in the Legal Framework of the country it is now illegal for example to talk about or to write about ethnicity in that Legal Environment how in the world can we expect people to open up about their nightmares that came from the genocide i cannot see how the legal frame but it really is the problem here you are not allowed to officially know this whether youre outta work to see but people still know if i asked the people how do your children know they said well one is a non toronto and the other one isnt so it is van only its just simply not good in birds but i cannot see how that would be an obstacle who are telling what has happened well of course you mention you are in general so i. Imagine you have killed people with a mushy eat where you have beaten them to death or you have stabbed them would you be in a position to talk about this to other people i think nobody would easily yeah i mean thats a good point to make and its hard to imagine to how people perpetrators or victims how they would deal with Something Like this especially when were talking about 25 years after the fact we hear that men deal with emotions differently than women is that true when it comes to dealing with a huge trauma like the rwandan genocide. It is true that men were primarily the perpetrators also there were also some women but the majority were made and they can talk about themselves in like in former club glue clubs of former combatants like veterans do in western countries now but they would not talk if you if you meet somebody from a war zone lets say a german soldier an american soldier they dont talk you about with you about what has happened in the war how the killed other people and the same thing is true for rhonda. I dont think that it is really much different between men and women women dont talk either they dont talk about their perpetration of they dont talk about their race. The incidence of very difficult situation you have to create the space for them so that they can open up well dr thomas ever we appreciate you taking the time to try to help us understand this is valuable insights tonight into a very difficult subject dr Thomas Albert thank you yeah thank you for interest. Then finally the brazilian president has raised some french follicles if you will after he reportedly skipped a meeting with frances foreign minister to you guessed it get a haircut so youre bill sinatra was due to meet with the French Foreign minister but he cancelled last minute only to be seen a little later wind streaming on facebook from the barbershop its all being seen in france as a deliberate snub by the hardline brazilian leader he was at aunts with paris and many other nations over Climate Policy theyre calling it the blow dryer blow will. All right the days almost done the conversation continues online your find us on twitter and you can follow me at t. V. Dont forget to use our hash tag the day every member whatever happens between now and then tomorrow is another day well see that it can. Enter the conflicts. Plays in populism uprising in venezuela. Called protests threats its lucky. The world is in crisis mode just this week weve pushed back to the key interviews of the season the point is that people want change they can fly zone to me on channel every now and then sending them to you. Know for 60 minutes. Ha ha i felt he was. Declining my treehouse wait a 2nd if you want the whole trisha out facts is that of a good idea shift deliver us. From a measure to reality to cryptocurrency your topics for live in an ever changing Digital World lets talk to digitize a show their shift. On d w. A quiet melody resounds michael lighten the mood. And its. Resonate with and its on. The mind and the music. To open 1st bond 2019 from september 6th to september 29th. This you know i mean in your minutes im going yes. What im focused on him is you know what im on what didnt work and i said im not going to set them. Up once here its as if to say as it. Went on ive only said that are going on there and finding. The money. As expected the u. S. Federal reserve cut Interest Rates leaves many scratching their heads the u. S. Economy is strong why the need for even cheaper money is. Also on the show no breakthrough no progress no deal for 12 rounds of u. S. China trade talks ends with the same result as the previous 11. And the new british Prime Minister brings new worries for business with the breaks that brinksmanship ends in a much dreaded no deal. This is your d. V. D. Of Business Report im stephen bears in berlin thanks for watching its a modest cut Interest Rates that has some scratching their heads the u. S. Federal reserve has lowered rates by a quarter percent despite strong Economic Indicators in the country officials pointed to softening Business Investment and muted inflation its been a long time since the last rate cut almost 11 years in fact that was december 2008 on the tail end of Federal Reserve efforts to prime Financial Markets during the recession its only gone up since then in line with the recovering and eventually booming American Economy now compare that to the European Central bank with a deposit rate has long been below 0 and where policymakers are still cutting and thats putting even more pressure on the fed as rate cuts devalue the euro against the dollar affecting trade balances and then theres the pressure from u. S. President donald trump hes repeatedly pushed for a larger Interest Rate cut in fact saying today that fed chairman Jerome Powell had let him down. Jerome pauls delivery was in line with a dry and factual toland fed chairman have always displayed yet there was a hint of caution as he explained the committees decision to cut the benchmark rate for the 1st time in over a decade for the federal funds it is intended to insure against Downside Risks from weak Global Growth and trade policy uncertainty to help offset the effects these factors are currently having on the economy and to promote a faster return of inflation to our symmetric 2 percent objective that trade policy uncertainty would be the result of u. S. President trumps ongoing fights with china the e. U. And even his north american neighbors any criticism of trumps policies might have been inappropriate for a fed chairman but trump himself had unrelentingly attacked the feds policies demanding larger rate cuts support pledging to act as appropriate to sustain the expansion of the fed signaled possible future rate cuts for the wall street however did not immediately react as such action had been widely expected. And lets go now to our financial correspondent jose luis de haro in new york was it there you are so the decision finally made how are the markets reacting. You know it will stephen especially after listening to your own paul giving context. Was more hawkish it done investors anticipated he was a very clear is stating just a meat cycle policy adjustment meaning its different from the start of a long cutting cycle as we saw for example in 2007 obviously did not see it well with the investors so we are still seeing. 2 more rate cuts before the year and so we. Will let everybody down with the decision. The fed likes to say that its decisions are data driven did powell in that press conference lay out a Strong Enough argument for why. Why hes cutting rates despite the strong Economic Data frankly in the us. Stephen he was really begun to regard so was the. Statement in both cases the outlook for the u. S. Economy remained favorable while the current expansion was to find the staying power will mention it that we should expect that job growth to be slower down last year but the fittest still sees the usa growing 2 point one percent in 21000. 00 on employment near record lows that this year old so inflation should catch up with just be loaded 2 percent goal a situation which makes it harder for sound to justify the

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