Berlin is back after expunge thought i had of the a. F. To use parliamentary faction thats you know except that her party needs to tone down some of its highly controversial rhetoric. They are welcome to convert so. The new European Parliament is in session you are going because youve got 11 percent of the vote in germany youre going there in greater numbers but not in the numbers that you hoped for why not. Well i think it was the the election came out as a huge success we have been there in the last in the end with one i mean pay now were sending 11. 00 and over all the whole campaign was of course not easy for us which are 2 percent down from the federal elections where we actually what we had nationally you know 2 percent ok and what we have to take into account is that the companion of course what money is it was an international can paint in favor of you make Climate Change and then the austrian video from strahan came up so it was really a very tough fight for us the scandal that were down the u. S. Government so this has been put into account and for the alexander government was talking last year about 20 percent was in the survey shows between 70 and 20 percent of the f. T. C. Is well over 20 percent and youve got 11 yeah so as i said one has to take into account that the campaign was not easy and so in the end we ended up with 11 every piece there and i think we have part of it over of a bigger group to a 9 points behind the greens who were on 20. 5 percent they were the big winners here in germany with that and its hard for you to compete with them because many germans see them as coalition material they dont see us coalition to the world this is this is this is the campaign where were facing at the very moment this is true and you want to talk about Climate Change and this is not our main issue were picking up on that. The 90000000 ill xander girl and youll coleaders as the greens will destroy the country and our job must and will be to fight them this is pretty apocalyptic terms of the of the politicos coming from the greens they are saying we are gonna die some something more years if you do not you know stop any imitate c o 2 and i think this is they are trying to make everyone being in panic they are language of this holy Center Greatest i want to get the people and panic and i think were the ones to to put facts again you dont really only thing we. Im not going into that panel talk well talk about different kind of publicly later but around 46 percent of those polled in germany so that they wish to see an alliance between the cd even the greens and that means if that goes ahead an open literalistic society protecting minorities as opposed to close the border party like you telling people to cover their heads who cant well of it if this will end up like a law in this pretty possible that the christian democrats are going together with the greens or even with the far left and i think this is this maybe but we think this is a problem within the country and they hold your opinion here but if it comes to germany we talk about germany is moving towards into a completely wrong direction we want to stop it and we will have elections regional erect elections by the beginning of september in sex and the and in brandenburg and we will see how that will end up because it might be the necessary of the Christian Democratic Party to choose whether they want to go with a little far left so the former communist party the s. C. D. From from g. R. Or with with us and them and this is what we have we have to to think about and i think this is why they are panicking so what they dont seem to be much doubt that you would do well in the east but preentry you now actually is that the majority of germans simply dont want to live in the kind of country you in visit do well this is this is this is a country where the majority if i could just say the same question almost 60 percent still view immigrants as a strength rather than a burden and you want my group refugee numbers severely limited because you feel your culture is threatened this is true 81 percent think membership of the e. U. Is a good thing that was in october last year when they dont so and you are threatening to leave if you dont get the reforms you want whatever that means well were were having different positions on different opinions so its Something Like 40 percent of the germans think islam does not belong to germany so this is also supported not by a majority but by a very strong mind. Already and this voice in a democracy has to be represented as well and if it comes to islam when it comes to migration when it comes to the ever closer European Union when it comes to your rescue packages to to save the euro all these all these items all these issues have to be covered from both sides weve got a huge overall coalition of all the other parties who are going towards ever closer union when it comes to the European Union want to rescue the euro both german taxpayers money who want to take in why koreans who think israel you want to lean on and youre going to pull the country out of the euro and all of those all those all those issues when it comes to that were having a different opinion this is true and its 83 percent of children support the euro you will pull the country know and there are others who dont and this is in the in a democracy it was ours it wasnt its never that its 100 percent agree its not 100 percent agree for breath or for not breck said its more 5050 and why was the migration issue is pretty much all you have isnt it you know youre a one trick pony and im going to doubted you would and were not going for i mean this was the speech years ago when we found at the party and now we are because then we were on the year rescue policy the only issue then we have a General Program with all the details i was speaking about about your opinion your rescue that was on the government admitted its not so good last year he said i think the governments welcome policy for refugees was the main reason for our success but it was the only reason for your success was and no we this is this is not true what you said was untrue it is it is not true that this is the only success it is true that there was a momentum into a bow and 15 the former head of our secret service mr marson just today or yesterday in the built side and said he didnt join the Christian Democratic Party to take in 1800000 arabic people into germany this is what he said hes from the c. D. U. And i think this is a very this is a very important point because this started all in 2015 and of. Of course in 2015 when marco close didnt close the borders open in whatever way take it but let in all those people into our country and this was of course a moment when a lot of people the very unsatisfied that there is with the politics and i didnt they they did want to have a change on that point and this is such a way off was that there was supporting us but thats not the only reason for us to just supporting the point i made which is basically that this is your one policy last summer it became pretty clear in interviews that your coley the alexander government gave that you really dont have policies on many issues affecting ordinary people there were no policies on germanys retirement system he said we have no determined concept no policy on digitalisation particularly important with young people he said that has not been voted on in our Party Programme no policy on how to protect local renters from Big International Holiday Companies big topic here in berlin. It is your it is your one topic isnt it migration thats it no its not. You oppose your partys grievances and shit you actually have very little to propose but you seem to offer purses few alternatives for a party thats called alternative for germany i think you have a probably have youre just not aware of it i dont blame you for that you have not gone through our program youre just picking up on some you know mainstream wording which is up in the air but if you prepare for an interview like this you should maybe go through our program and then realize we have got an overall Problem Program which is basically having solutions for different kinds of issues for almost all the issues so the political signs to sue said that you have little in the way policies around political scientists that kill university for instance yes sums it up when he said people are just concerned about immigration or crime or security also concern about pensions and Climate Change legislation and you know if the leaders have nothing no you know we have a were trusting 1st problems 1st it is true that we have not served the end of the. Pension problem we are facing but were making one point were saying this problem is ongoing for decades already we know already that this problem is a severe one and has to be self but 1st thing we have to address is who is responsible for that and this has been all the other parties mainly social democrats and christian democrats because they knew already 2 generations again that this system is about to break apart and were addressing it were having a debate in the party at the very moment were taking it very serious were taking our time and well come up with something but we dont you know we want just not react on the attacking us for not being able to solve the problems which has been caused by all the other parties within the last 50 years or more that were not having a solution for all the disaster they have put into our country i think this has to be honest this is this is this is a debate we will not take i wanted to. Good look at your partys rhetoric because it seems carefully calculated to make people terrified of muslims and angry at the government for letting so many in in one of your political manifesto that says if the views islam is a great threat to our state our society and our values due to it spreading and the steadily growing number of muslims go on repeating this and you might as well paint a target on their bad moments you know we were thinking islam is a fan of our culture is something which is dangerous for our culture and we dont want that we will have a debate you can be different opinion you can think islam is ation of our culture is good we think its bad and you take the no responsibility for the fact that in 2015 alone with your warnings about rampaging muslims going viral across the internet that there were some 1000 attacks on refugee shelters in germany 5 times the number reported i dont know anyway the way they have numbers for but then stay a problem isnt the problem is that we have weve got rising and jumping numbers of criminal rates within those those in the within hours into attacks on the few jews shelters you get this is really we draw any 2 years over that yes we do yes we can a lot of them we condemning all of violence in every in every area in general no not in particular in particular every single one but its not hard to work out what you go beyond saying muslims are equal threat was an equal threat over and over again in that not all muslim log some people are going to react badly and some people do turn violent ugly we want to keep the german in germination they dont even the European Union but were talking about germany here we dont want to have that a Muslim Country we accept muslims there are a lot of muslims who are well integrated into our society who take place no problem everythings fine but what we do not want to accept is that islam is starting to have an impact on our social life and our public life on our you know. I was wrong youre not addressing the point. I wanted to make a about this idea that muslims are a threat to germany. Muslims are spread to juice this is for example something what were were getting from the Jewish Community the Jewish Community isnt working on a new world. Which doesnt make a difference to you on the numbers when we know about the attacks on of muslims on jews we know that the if you dont talk to the political officials but if you talk to the members of the Jewish Community for example then you realize that they have that the threat for them of being. Of been attacked by antisemitic attacks well it didnt prevent the israeli ambassador here saying he has nothing to do with your party because youve said so many of so much less than he said about jews the holocaust and israel yet this over and over again no no no i was going to wait for you dont you get away from them and the day will come on to perhaps why you feel the need to do that but last month germanys Intelligence Services warned that right wing violence has risen sharply here 48 acts of extreme violence registered in 2018 and 28 the year before. In this atmosphere in this field doesnt it behoves politicians to tone down their rhetoric and is that something you intend to do in the party this is this is true for edwards one out of dont think what we see we have just had the debate in the german bundestag and it has been these public figures to say that the attacks on people and politicians and politicians overall its by the but we are outnumbering the attacks by everyone so would which means there are far more incidents happening to us then to every other member of any other party so were the ones to being physically attacked we need pollutant actually most recently all people got murdered last month and look no further than the murder of volta lu. Was known for his pro migron views and was shot by a right wing extremist what does your party do turn around and blame the government for that no this is just not true either martin hogan said if not for the illegal opening of the borders with young controlled continual mass arrival of my migrants look i would still be alone i dont mean the government i dont know what my you know much that i can tell you what the board of the if tea party said and what the board of the safety group in the Parliament Said so you are just so sorry for yourself from those remarks to absolutely i mean we have made a very clear statement on that even in the debate was taking place this is ridiculous and we are the ones to say we have to address the problem of course but we have to address this to all of a society what has happened there is the i dont even find the words in english to say that thats an acceptable it was a blame murder did you also dissociate yourself from involved can get you another of your people whose is one of the when we look at this a little actually when we look at this politically he said that we have to say quite clearly in comparison with islamists extreme leftist the extreme right terrorism seen in germany is just a bird dropping like having people in the field with a cold blooded murder this is this this this guy is facing. A Legal Process within the party we want to get him out of the party who does not belong to the party but we have to go through a Legal Process and this has been taken up by the head of the. By the board of the a. F. P. And by the board of the brandenburg branch of the if he say your opponent here this is right this is absolute intact the next after what he said but this is one of the guys so one triangle in your party chair you do with trying to get to get rid of him dont show control the people in your party will do what we can we cant control people speaking because we cant you know fix their masses but we can try to get them out of the party and this is what its ongoing. But. Im too ashamed of the attitudes and comments like that and this is why we want to get rid of those people this is why i want to get rid of those legal theres a long history of tendentious things one says when you know in your party theres a sort of casual racism about a lot of things that are said in your party you know. If you can if it comes to certain to certain people and were trying to getting rid of them so we cant be addressed at that at this this is a very very valid somewhere load you know trying to get rid of him and hes made some casual racist comments. You talk injured only biggest Opposition Party in the in the bundestag me being bored of that party which an argument which means work which means that you cannot focus on one or 2 sentences made by by its about time people its a long pattern isnt it were were having we make comments and all these are all these arguments and i think i think if you try to and this is what are you doing i mean weve got a 25 minutes interview and youre talking about were talking about 3 people or 4 people and this is i think its just not youre not realizing what the party is all about were about to be the number one in the east of germany and the people support because the people want to have a different approach to politics they want to have a change in politics to put it that way maybe thats thats better realization im going to talk about these things we talk about how theyre out because theyre barassi but your people shouldnt be saying them and if youre about right a letter should i say i just said it i just said it we can repeated and repeated over again but it doesnt make the point clearer i just said want to get rid of. Those of us who are making those remarks at a very general who put out your fake news for you and me in may this year your party claimed in the Facebook Post that 1400000 Asylum Seekers were waiting for their tickets to germany and the government wanted to impose a duty of integration on german citizens this is the quote 1400000 are waiting for their ticket to join. And we should pay for the question. Thats once and too big because its more its less where it is 1400000 in official numbers being i mean im not about 1400000 i dont know whom youre quoting there so i dont take that into into my words and but what we know is that there. A lot more people in africa willing to go to the north which is there which of course is make sense because they proposed a better life here and so it makes sense for them to come over and the only point we make is we cant take any more people in because weve taken too many already and we dont want to do we will not well not be able to solve the problems of the world of the territory of germany this is not we are not facing we cannot face your problems with a very broad brush the world suggesting that were equally apply all 1000000 to post the posting by your party distorts the u. S. Figure of 1400000. 00 refugees whove been designated as especially vulnerable and without a single supporting fact claims that theyre becoming to germany theres no basis for them coming to germany at all well well a lot a lot more of it is simply false and i dont think the full i think the numbers too small and i think when you when you go and do you take the numbers from how many people off from africa would like to go and move towards europe and then probably to maybe a lot of them to germany the numbers probably are even bigger the point the political point were making is we want to have people in the world but we think we are not able to to fight civil war and war and poverty and whatever diseases in the world by taking the people of those areas into into germany i think this is the way we are not able to solve the problems we want to address it properly we want to help we want to support poor countries and this is not the question you want to make people right and that the hordes of just about to break down will barriers and yet forced their way i think this is a very important point we want to have pulling is no evidence for that at all now we want we want no evidence of. We want to have the people in the world know that they have a it makes no sense to move over to germany because they are not able to come in i think this is what life if we send out the political signal that all those millions people are not starting to move to the north and to germany so because we are able to take them all in and what we see in the mediterranean as much as possible press the fear but germany is in great danger germany some great danger yes if we take in more millions and in great danger we already know as the sun as i can but keep saying theres no sign of millions more coming to germany where they came over a 1000000 already its a minute so you need no sleep spreading fear around the country now i dont know whether youre not aware of the figures and were still taking in 15000. 00 per month and then more to germany has committed 210000 in 2018 and it was 15 hours and maybe its now 101215000 every single month and so this ends up right like 120. 00 in a year but if you if you do not start the if you do not send out the political signal that this is not all over we cannot handle it we cannot handle it all the numbers who were here at the moment its already too much i dont know whether youre aware of all the the criminal rates of all the of all the you know problems youre facing within a security we dont want that and as a Political Party we say we just dont want to really dont want to be forced into changing our new leader culture really what we do not want lets just go back to europe and the new Political Landscape after the european elections e. F. T. Is joining me is identity and Democracy Group which is going to be the 5th Largest Group in the European Parliament not the 3rd largest which is what youre aiming for your party promises to be a thorn in the flesh of the stuff what does that mean shes going to block and disrupt and create trouble now what were trying to get out is the message that were in favor of the. European union and it has been set up by the Founding Fathers of the European Union were against the ever closer union we want to keep this of the serenity of the nation states what we think is that democracy only functions within a nation state and we want to Work Together where it is necessary to do so but we do not want to be clear to move towards ever closer union we have got is divided amongst itself on its position oh absolutely not well there are but i guess youre coming up with a with some quote from some facebook site from someone who is probably not member no i have no desire to go along warning in one of your meetings before the election but whoever toys with the idea of a decks it a german exit from the e. U. Also needs to ask themselves if this is not a utopia it was just the people in your party so theres a division in your hand as people who want to leave people who want to stay hes telling the religious dont we have a very clear its a very clear point what we need is deep reforms on the institutions are on the European Union this is what we need and if we are not many if we are not able to fulfill those those reforms we dont get those reforms then there might be some day the idea to leave but what we are trying to do is trying and fight for the reforms and the reform means that we want to have sovereignty right back to the nation states we what we are clearly opposing the European Army we are against european taxes overruling minorities within the European Council for example and this is what we have a very very clear point if we are not managing to keep this if we dont stop the European Union to coming up with the european taxes and with that with their ever ever more Banking Union and all those kinds of things then there might be the day when we have to leave iraq were trying to to prevent from falling for you also against Campaign Finance rules and. Is that your party has been silent 402000 euros by the buddhist dogs Administrative Committee is it 2 of your kind as its up to 3 advertising which constituted Illegal Campaign funds were going against that on a legal basis at the very moment and this is this is very open what is true is that the bundestag has put up millions of peace and for illegal pot Party Financing and money well you know there is only about parity exists on the other you already have your thats full of your actions were going to remember it denying any wrongdoing ever finding new avenues to investigate were a good oreilly whose office is in dusseldorf work they did last week but more ok now its up to me ok were going against it legally so we have our like there are lawyers on that to go against it this is the case but its not the case is that and all the other parties are going against it at the very moment they have been put up like this i think with some like 3000000 euros for their freedom a credit party because they have illegal take money from the parliament for for their work so this has been judged already and no one is talking about is the again i do not neglect that the is trying to do so but were going against it we have not yet the result ironically youre the ones who promised to put public funding of Political Parties a new legal base of swimming and its your funding thats in the spotlight continually and has been for months now when you can actually be dont do it why should people believe your version because because im just saying were going against legally were not yet there the result is not yet out this is the but you can repeat the question i want to put answer. 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