world and somebody you want to continue a dialogue with. >> that's right. russia is not the economic power it once was but the military apparatus is still there. something could go wrong and it's not a country the united states could ever ignore. i think what we saw from biden -- dan hit on something here, white house officials said this to us on the runup to the trip they felt like yes, they addressed putin and russia, and did it early. they wanted to disrupt early, the cyber hacker, wanted to send a message about alexei navalny. joe we talked last week in the immediate aftermath of the summit about biden delivering a threat to putin, suggesting about how he wanted certain key parts of the american infrastructure off limits to cyber hack like say pipelines and oil fields and he suggested that would be a problem for you