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requiring voter i.d., including things like utility bills. is that a basis to start a conversation in your view? >> well, first of all, i appreciate what joe manchin is doing here. he's trying to find some middle ground. unfortunately what he does is what the larger bill s-1 does. it takes the election system and federal lies it. it's a federal takeover of the election system. as you know under the constitution -- >> is that a takeover? >> extraordinary circumstances. it would be telling my state of ohio that -- >> federal government tells the state how to spend transportation money sometimes. >> well, that's true, and there's federal money provided for that. in this case what he's saying to the state of ohio or your state of florida, we're going to decide how redistricting is done. we'd be taking away from democracy, in effect, which right now in the state of ohio, our state legislature makes that decision. these are elected representatives. he wants to make it a federal responsibility through some kind

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