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they can allow it without it being considered discrimination or or allow it to be basically what this group wants to think and feel and say, but they're not looking to break new ground on new compromises or move the needle, so to speak, on some of the clashes we have seen between what groups see as religious freedom and others as baseline equality. >> jeffrey touched on this, pete. i want to dive into this. the role of justice amy coney barrett. this was the first case she heard argued when she took her seat on the court, am i right? >> was fulton county the first? i guess it was. you said is there any significance to them coming out so early. these cases were argued in november. obamacare was argued the day after the election. it has been a long time. something has been going on that -- usually cases that take this long to come out, it's because of the back and forth between the majority and

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