of biden's domestic programs and changing our lives, our material conditions for the better, across the board, across groups, and showing that government can play a positive role in people's lives, that's if he had an ideology, which he doesn't, really. i don't think he thinks in ideological terms. but that would be it. to me, that's our only chance. at the end of the book, i talk about equal america. which is an america in which everyone feels that they have a place. that their status is the same. their conditions are not exactly. there will always be disparities, but at least we won't be locked into crosses from which we can't escape. and i think that's biden's goal, whether he can succeed seems to be fought out every day in washington, and at the moment, it's a battle. >> thank you, george packer. the new book is "last best hope: america in crisis and renewal." we appreciate it. still ahead, an increasing number of shootings across the country foreshadows a potentially violent summer. how police departments are
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