russia including yourself. what can you tell us about this meeting and how you advised the president? >> well, first, ali, i really want to congratulate you and your team for mentioning alexei navalny, trevor reed, paul whelan in this story. they sometimes get forgotten here in geneva, and we need to remember them. we need to remember their stories, and i hope that president biden does as well. with respect to that story, i'm obviously not going to comment on private conversations with president biden. but isn't it great that the president is preparing for this meeting? because if you'll remember, the last time putin met with a former president, president trump, it was clear to me, i was at that one as well, working for you, not for the u.s. government, just to be clear, that president trump was not prepared for that meeting. so i think it's a great thing that he is thinking hard about this. he said it many times along his trip so far. the one time i will talk about it, i was actually at the last one when they met. it was ten years ago.
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