kevin mccarthy and the deputy whipped votes against it and now mcconnell calling on folks to do him a solid and vote it -- whipping votes against the formation of a commission. how do people -- how should people view that? >> i think they should view it as how legislation should work. house republicans and democrats meet together. there's a give and a take. i think it looked like katko got just about everything that republicans wanted in the commission. it was a bipartisan commission. same number of democrats and republicans. mccarthy would be able to appoint one. and it's going to be independent, outside of congress. just everything, even the subpoena negotiates and then brings it back and let's go and
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