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back, if you will. you know? they're the two that have stood in the way of democrats, who have said let's blow the filibuster up. if they decide that republican opposition to the january-6th commission is -- is -- is not just disheartening. but, you know, undemocratic, unamerican, then -- then they could join with their colleagues and decide, you know, this is important enough. we are going to get rid of the filibuster. but it really depends on those two, specifically. >> debbie, on this question of the january-6th commission, your sense of how badly it could backfire for the gop? >> alicia, i cannot overemphasize how important it is, right now, for us to investigate and understand what, exactly, happened on january 6th. it was an insurrection. it was an attempted coup by the president. when house members, congress members, were actually certifying the election. the 2020 election. i think that we have seen, from kevin mccarthy and other

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