someone in the jail there to give him a favor, to take him off of suicide watch, i mean, it's really not a surprise to the victims because that's what he's done all these years. >> you said it wasn't a surprise to the victims. given your reporting, was it a surprise to you? >> well, when i say it wasn't a surprise, i mean it's not a surprise looking back on just looking at the fact that somehow he probably got some kind of allowance to get off of suicide watch. that part of it. i think everybody is shocked that he was able to execute it, that he should have probably been watched a little more carefully. at least since his suicide watch was recently lifted, you would think they would have been checking on him a little more closely. >> one of the women that you interviewed actually spoke to one of the sunday shows. let's take a little listen to that. >> i really wanted justice.

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