physical embodiment, something to hate, using her almost in effigy. i haven't seen that before. i wonder what the republican party is going to do -- i lothe lost black people a long time ago. brown americans now look at them and think, oh, my god, these people are caging brown children. the republican party can win maybe a few more elections this way, but long term, your party is defined by this. what do you make of it? >> what i make of it is the strategy of the republican party obviously has to shift. it has to move away from trying to empower people through the worst of what we are as human beings and as americans, which goes back to our original sin of racism and go back to what type of policies can empower all sorts of people regardless of where you come from. >> lenny, hold on a second, because you as a man of color yourself, do you feel comfortable in a party that does