reaction could you have other than to despise him and what happens is, there is a percentage of people who feel that way and don't care. he's serving some other or they believe he is serving some other agenda they share. it is extraordinary to imagine the level of isolation he reached. he is alone in this white house. remember when nixon was talking to the walls? there was still a few people. there was hang and diane sawyer and a few people around who would still talk to him. there is nobody with trump who he pays any attention to. who he will give sufficient respect to that there is actual dialogue. >> that's what worries me. this is character study, but it's character study in the context of are we going to go to war with iran? >> that's a conversation he's having with himself.